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value (indicating the input field or textarea should be
cleared upon focusing it) would probably be most suitable.
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On Wed, 23 May 2007, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
I don't understand. What use is a default value if you can't edit it?
Why not make the field empty to begin with?
On Fri, 25 May
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presentational elements continued into HTML 2.0.
HTML has always been a dance between structure and presentation. Too
structural, and humans won't understand it; too presentational, and
computers won't understand it.
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a single address.
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Ian Hickson wrote on 29/07/08 03:21:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
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I'm suggesting that since it is common for entire menus -- or
toolbars -- to be temporarily irrelevant, such as when focus is in a
field or pane where they do not apply, there should be a disabled
Ian Hickson wrote on 30/07/08 04:08:
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
On Oct 14, 2007, at 2:03 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote:
I don't think If both attributes are specified, then the ratio of
the specified width to the specified height must be the same as the
ratio
instead.
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Ian Hickson wrote on 27/05/08 07:47:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
On Oct 30, 2007, at 6:01 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, Matthew Thomas wrote:
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Many applications provide inline help which is not a label, and the
same attributes would be appropriate
On May 16, 2008, at 5:50 AM, Jon Barnett wrote:
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas
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Imagine further that this iPhone has no user-visible file system. It
stores music, but annoyingly, the device vendor doesn't want to let
people upload songs
On May 9, 2007, at 2:27 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
On May 8, 2007, at 9:06 PM, Kristof Zelechovski wrote:
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From the behavioral point of view: The purpose of a LABEL control is
to redirect focus on click. It does not make much sense with a
TEXTAREA control that is usually big enough
was going
to be, and search already was, handled differently in IE7 anyway.
and why would it be more successful in practice?
Because it would be cross-browser.
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was placed -- at
the end of a section, at the end of the page, or even on a separate
page. And it wouldn't even require adding any new elements or
attributes to HTML.
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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
For example, forms sporting those By submitting this form you accept
our
this observation is. Maybe it means ins, del,
and mark shouldn't be HTML elements, but should be something else instead.
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that contain links don't also use accesskey=, handset
vendors should find a way to allow easy navigation of links regardless
of whether the attribute is present.
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using extra elements or JavaScript.
We should probably aim higher than that though...
...
I'm suggesting either replacing foo cite=url/foo with bar
rel=citation for=id-of-foo, or dropping cite= altogether.
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On Nov 4, 2007, at 5:59 AM, Keryx Web wrote:
Matthew Paul Thomas skrev:
To allow this on the Web, the CSS font-style property would need to
have not just normal, italic, and oblique values, but also an
italic-inverse value. Browsers should then use this value by
default for any inline
.
So a more helpful default would be something like:
em {font-style: italic-inverse;}
em em {font-style: bold;}
em em em {font-size: 1.2em;}
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On Oct 30, 2007, at 4:33 AM, Ian Hickson wrote:
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
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Authors should use presentational markup whenever there is no
available semantic markup for the relevant meaning, or when they are
providing authoring facilities for people who cannot
would require us to choose between
server-side generation of every chart image, incompatibility with w3m,
or non-conformance with any HTML specification. I know w3m isn't
exactly a major browser, but I don't see any good reason for having to
make that choice.
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paragraph inside the
article container. I doubt any news site would deliberately make the
lede a paragraph other than the first one (burying the lede) *and*
want it specially formatted.
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be useful to
make an entire menu disabled even if the platform UI convention is for
disabled menu titles to look enabled.
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be updated to refer to HTML 5 rather than
Web Forms 2.0 and Web Applications 1.0.
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instead. Mozilla browsers
don't do that any more, and nor does any other browser I know of,
because it made for a horrid user experience.
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that should be addressed (in Web Forms 3?) with a specific error
for=... element.
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field* when you click its
label, on a platform where that doesn't happen in native GUIs (e.g.
Windows, Mac OS, Gnome, or KDE), that's a bug in the browser. Web Forms
2 clarifies this.
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-forms/current-work/#label
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is specified to open in a new window in the first place. So it is fair
for HTML5 to encourage those things, but beyond that, this discussion
may be getting a bit off-topic.
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in the original page), and encourage UAs to
indicate when a link will open in a different top-level browsing
context (e.g. by double-underlining instead of single-underlining).
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help links reuse only its own help
window, and don't accidentally obliterate those of other apps or even
other open windows in the same app? Generate a per-page UUID prefix for
all its target= attribute values? :-)
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design.)
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radically, from vinyl, to
cassette, to CD, to purely digital. Why should the Web shy away from a
radical technological change?
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For the same reasons people shy away from learning Esperanto. Vinyl,
cassettes, and CDs are not languages.
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On Jan 11, 2007, at 7:01 AM, Sander Tekelenburg wrote:
At 14:42 +1300 UTC, on 2007-01-07, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
On Jan 7, 2007, at 7:13 AM, Sander Tekelenburg wrote:
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It's still entirely unclear to me *why* the cite attribute needs a
replacement. What is wrong with it?
First, it's
On Jan 21, 2007, at 10:37 PM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote:
Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
I could have said in my 24 years of reading in a wide variety of
fields I have never, not once, come across a document that
intentionally used italics to indicate it was quoting someone, but I
was trying
for each of them would add substantially to the size of the page.
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On Jan 17, 2007, at 12:46 AM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote:
Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
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This is the correct way to do it:
pqThis is correct!/q, said citeIan/cite./p
Despite this being consistent with the example given in the HTML 4
specification, it is not compatible
arguing about which one to use is not without opportunity
cost.
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Not without makes that statement look more profound than it is.
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screenreaders yet
that make such a distinction (are there any? I forget), that's a very
small benefit for a very small audience. Fantasai's example of emphasis
in Chinese text is much more interesting.
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On Jan 11, 2007, at 2:17 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote:
On Jan 10, 2007, at 13:26, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
The message please use b and i unless you really know what
you're doing, and generate b and i unless your users really know
what they're doing is *not* well-known.
What's the expected
compatible and visually obvious (if less semantically
obvious) definition of cite is marking up the name of a work: a book,
film, exhibition, game, etc.
To close on a minor point: en-GB-hixie notwithstanding, it's
preceded, not preceeded. :-)
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). Heuristic machine consumption fails occasionally by the very
nature of heuristics (examples currently include
http://www.google.com/search?q=define:author and
http://www.google.com/search?q=define:editor.)
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On Dec 26, 2006, at 1:50 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
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Non-heuristic machine consumption fails when semantic elements are
abused, and becomes practical when elements have multiple popular
meanings (examples of the latter include dl in HTML 4, and p in
HTML 5).
That should have been
not relevant to the WhatWG
(and I apologize for participating). If you think search engine result
pages would be better if festooned with useless warnings, lobby your
favorite search engine vendor, or go start your own.
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.
Personally, I would *love* Google to do this sort of thing. I just
have no hope for it.
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http://labs.google.com/accessible/
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browsers's text/html - XML list..
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That would be even worse.
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be
Supplemental text that is relevant only when concentrating on the
element to which it applies.
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. A link in a tooltip would usually be impossible to click. :-)
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of strong and em.)
Many people concentrate on one or two of these effects and gloss over
the others, so their idea of the overall utility function is warped.
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Scholarly books sometimes use both footnotes and endnotes for different
things -- footnotes for citations and endnotes for tangential
discussions, or vice versa. I've never seen an HTML document try to
make this distinction, though.
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textbooks etc)
with the m in a different style from the c? If not, perhaps the
definition of var needs to be expanded to include physical constants.
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, an unobtrusive sound effect
at each footnote reference, and a command to read the last-encountered
footnote.
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relevant in the context.
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of a benefit when the Web
site is not in your preferred language).
Is the use of the title attribute inappropriate for this case?
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It has the same lack of context.
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lives in a part of the world doesn't
agree with the 'official' list of countries?
You use a select.
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Or, if you're using Web Forms 2 anyway, a datalist.
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survived (with minor modifications) to HTML 4, *except for* person
and au[thor]. http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html3/logical.html
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On Jun 25, 2006, at 11:59 PM, Lachlan Hunt wrote:
Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
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But realistically, browsers won't allow the user to easily override
it if they want to, because any interface for doing that would be
absurd.
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* Status bar icon/text that indicates if spell checking
so non-obvious -- instructions that may be
incorrect for some platforms, depending on how they're worded, and that
are irrelevant for non-interactive UAs like Google.)
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from ignoring XmlHttp
traffic for progress bar purposes whenever displaying any non-XmlHttp
progress.
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is disabled is that its contents are greyed out --
its outline does not change. (This is true of buttons in the Classic
theme in Windows, for example.) So a select whose selected item (and
therefore its only visible item) was disabled would look entirely
unusable.
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that's another false dilemma, but to be honest I'm not even
sure what you're saying. :-)
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On 24 Jan, 2006, at 5:43 AM, dolphinling wrote:
Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
Bizarre but serious conclusion: alt= should be optional for img in
documents where a meta name=generator... element is present.
How about Authoring tools MUST only provide alternate text that the
author explicitly
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