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Another GSoC project that tries to help in this direction, making very easy for
admins to customize the CSS styles of their wikis.
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--- Comment #39 from Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org ---
Related, a GSoC project:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Jack_Phoenix/A_modern,_scalable_and_attractive_skin_for_MediaWiki_(GSoC_2014_proposal)
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ShoutWiki uses a thing we call themes, which are basically distinct styles of
existing skins - usually different colour schemes or what have you, such as a
dark theme for vector, a bright
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Are we ok closing this as WONTFIX for now unless an actionable proposal
(perhaps on wiki) is arrived at?
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Are we ok closing this as WONTFIX for now unless an actionable proposal
(perhaps on wiki) is arrived at?
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--- Comment #32 from James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org ---
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Are we ok closing this as WONTFIX for now unless an actionable proposal
(perhaps on wiki) is arrived at?
What's changed since your comment 6? Keeping
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--- Comment #33 from Jared Zimmerman (WMF) jared.zimmer...@wikimedia.org ---
@james https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60317 seems like a more
actionable way to address the source of the problem end user configuration is
hard rather
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--- Comment #34 from James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org ---
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@james https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60317 seems like a more
actionable way to address the source of the problem end user
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--- Comment #35 from Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org ---
One problem, discussed in bug 60317, is that MediaWiki must enable easier UI
customization without requiring to hack/fork Vector etc.
Another problem, discussed here, is that Wikipedia (and
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--- Comment #36 from Jared Zimmerman (WMF) jared.zimmer...@wikimedia.org ---
Yes Quim, Jon R. Matt F. talked about this yesterday, we specifically DON'T
want another skin and we do want any improvements made to the default skin
available to
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--- Comment #37 from Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org ---
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Yes Quim, Jon R. Matt F. talked about this yesterday, we specifically DON'T
want another skin and we do want any improvements made to the default
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--- Comment #16 from James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org ---
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As the FAQ explains[1], as long as you don't use one of the Wikimedia logos
or
a confusingly similar domain name, merely using Vector/default
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As the FAQ explains[1], as long as you don't use one of the Wikimedia logos
or a confusingly similar domain name, merely using Vector/default
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--- Comment #18 from Jared Zimmerman (WMF) jared.zimmer...@wikimedia.org ---
Just to weigh in, the goal is that wikimedia wikis would have a distinct but
equally feature rich skin as one that is shipped with mediawiki, the problem is
that this
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--- Comment #19 from Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org ---
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Just to weigh in, the goal is that wikimedia wikis would have a distinct but
equally feature rich skin as one that is shipped with mediawiki,
That's
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@Matt, the way I read the bug was that us someone goes to mediawiki.org,
downloads and installs the CMS, in its out of the box configuration it should
not be confused
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--- Comment #21 from Chad H. innocentkil...@gmail.com ---
I'm going on the record as saying I think it's a /good thing/ that we use the
same software that we ship, skin included.
I absolutely hate when we start using secret magic at WMF that
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--- Comment #22 from Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org ---
I don't think we have any problem that Wordpress, Drupal, etc haven't addressed
yet. Skins should be about skinning, not about providing extra functionality.
As long as modifying the Vector
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As the FAQ explains[1], as long as you don't use one of the Wikimedia logos
or a confusingly similar domain name,
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--- Comment #24 from Luis Villa (WMF Legal) lvi...@wikimedia.org ---
totality of the site's *look and feel*, should have said.
[So, for example, a Vector rip-off + a logo rip-off could be a
confusing/infringing look and feel; Vector + a
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--- Comment #25 from Jared Zimmerman (WMF) jared.zimmer...@wikimedia.org ---
This to me is an argument for a configuration extension, that allows users on
their own wiki to quickly change logo, colors, fonts, etc. but that is a
separate bug.
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--- Comment #26 from Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org ---
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@Matt, the way I read the bug was that us someone goes to mediawiki.org,
downloads and installs the CMS, in its out of the box configuration it should
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--- Comment #27 from Luis Villa (WMF Legal) lvi...@wikimedia.org ---
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Having WMF-specific overrides on things like color,
logos, typeface, footer, sidebar, etc. should be enough.
And to be clear, legal agrees. No
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This to me is an argument for a configuration extension, that allows users on
their own wiki to quickly change logo, colors, fonts, etc. but that is a
separate
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Re-quoting comment 0:
Wikipedia's visual identity should be distinct. It need not be obnoxiously
and loudly distinct. It is probably sufficient to apply a subtle, non-default
styling to a
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Thinking about this specifically for the mobile ui this could be as simple as
changing the header/left menu colour in some way.
Specifically about mobile, colors
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--- Comment #6 from Jared Zimmerman (WMF) jared.zimmer...@wikimedia.org ---
As I said before, I'm all for this. If eng. wants to start on this please
attempt to create a back end system for swapping key colors that is independent
of any
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Brandon: I think we can gain a lot of distinction using very little adjustment
and avoid any significant maintenance overhead - but I do agree that we
probably won't reach 100%
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--- Comment #5 from Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org ---
I think this is potentially a win-win situation for MediaWiki as a FOSS project
and Wikimedia wikis.
For Wikimedia, even small changes might help give them a more unique look that
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Not to be obtuse, but: do you mean only Wikipedias or would you include the
other Wikimedia wiki families in this bug as well (Wiktionaries, Wikiversities,
Wikinewseseses, etc.)?
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Thinking about this specifically for the mobile ui this could be as simple as
changing the header/left menu colour in some way.
There could be 2 theme CSS files that are enabled in
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--- Comment #3 from Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.org ---
I am fairly sympathetic to this issue. However, I have difficulty seeing a way
that we can do it without requiring an extra extension that applies the
Wikimedia flavor to whatever
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