Re: [Wikidata-l] [Dbpedia-discussion] DBpedia-based RDF dumps for Wikidata

Dimitris, Soren, and DBpedia team, That sounds like an interesting project, but I got lost between the statement of intent, below, and the practical consequences: On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Dimitris Kontokostas < kontokos...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de> wrote: > we made some different design

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Markus Krötzsch < mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote: > > For example, you can see that Portugal has a lot of lighthouses while > Spain has almost none -- maybe we need to look at our data there ;-) Perhaps it's a language confusion issue, but does Spain really

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

Hi Amir, 2015-03-10 14:31 GMT+01:00 Amir E. Aharoni : > [ Aude and Christian Consonni, this should especially interest you. ] :-) Luca already posted the link that summarizes my idea about Wikidata and OSM. 2015-03-10 17:38 GMT+01:00 Luca Martinelli : > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Id

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses

On 10.03.2015 17:31, Thad Guidry wrote: I helped with the Lighthouses schema in Freebase. For your personal enjoyment: https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-exports/miga/?lighthouses (use Google Chrome or any other non-IE, non-FF browser to view). Just a quick hack, many of the data are incompl

Re: [Wikidata-l] Names, Aliases, Copyright (and a little OpenStreetMap)

On 10.03.2015 17:09, Daniel Kinzler wrote: Am 10.03.2015 um 16:55 schrieb Markus Krötzsch: Hi Serge, The short answer to this is that the purpose of aliases in Wikidata is to help searching for items, and nothing more. Aliases may include nicknames that are in no way official, and abbreviations

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

On 2015-03-10 22:51, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 10 March 2015 at 20:20, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: On 2015-03-10 20:47, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 10 March 2015 at 15:32, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: For streets, we have now an approved bot task adding all Dutch streets on Wikidata Approved by

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

On 10 March 2015 at 20:20, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > On 2015-03-10 20:47, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> >> On 10 March 2015 at 15:32, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: >> >>> For streets, we have now an approved bot task adding all Dutch streets on >>> Wikidata >> >> >> Approved by whom? I foresee the major

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

If this is considered notable, I'd consider doing this for all streets in the Brussels region. I would add wikidata tags to all OSM objects involved (highway ways and associatedStreet relations) at the same time though. So if they'd get deleted once again on Wikidata, that would be quite a useless

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

On 2015-03-10 20:47, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 10 March 2015 at 15:32, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: For streets, we have now an approved bot task adding all Dutch streets on Wikidata Approved by whom? I foresee the majority of those being deleted as non- notable. By me as a crat. In the futu

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

On 10 March 2015 at 15:32, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > For streets, we have now an approved bot task adding all Dutch streets on > Wikidata Approved by whom? I foresee the majority of those being deleted as non- notable. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

Think... BIGGER. Jo has the right idea... Linked Data. It sounds to me like the right way forward for domain specific interest data (like OSM) ...is, Instead of 1 source of data (Wikidata)...and throwing domain specific interest data into Wikidata (not all data needs to live inside it). Just us

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses

Markus, Here's the basic schema that we put together in Freebase that is semi-populated with data now. Whomever whats to build the structure for Wikidata can just setup like it: http://www.freebase.com/architecture/lighthouse?schema=&lang=en Thad +ThadGuidry

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

> > > BTW, maybe related: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/OSMdata:_a_Wikidata-like_editor_for_OpenStreetMap > I added the following to the talk page of that article: Nodes/Ways/Relations Nodes, Ways and Relations. Those are the primitives we have currently in OSM. The way I see

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses

Hi Thad, I helped with the Lighthouses schema in Freebase. :-) We have imported the LoL into OSM (40'000 lights), and show them on OpenSeaMap: http://map.openseamap.org/?zoom=13&lat=54.47933&lon=10.27177&layers=BFTFFFTFFTF0 It would be great to have a popup in the chart which shows:

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > We have an ambition to have a separate entry for every species of insects, > and the number of insect species is comparable to the number of streets. > > (I personally would not add streets, but if there is a good database under > an ap

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-10 17:10 GMT+01:00 Daniel Kinzler : > Am 10.03.2015 um 16:54 schrieb Luca Martinelli: >> 2015-03-10 16:28 GMT+01:00 Janko Mihelić : >>> What would this new Wikibase have that OpenStreetMap doesn't already have? >> >> The possibility of "talking" with WMF projects, as Wikidata "talks" >> wit

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses

I helped with the Lighthouses schema in Freebase. Some of which is based on List of Lights (NGA) USA. I have DB conversion data for the PDFs...just never got around to loading them all in. Let me know if I can help. Thad +ThadGuidry On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at

[Wikidata-l] 176k items matched to OSM (Re: OpenStreetMap + Wikidata)

Hi Andy, The post last autumn said you had 176,000 items matched to OSM, a very large proportion of which (at least at that time) had no P31 "instance of", but you had been able to deduce this from Wikipedia. Would it be possible to start loading Wikidata with that information -- ie complete

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

On 2015-03-10 16:46, Daniel Kinzler wrote: Am 10.03.2015 um 16:32 schrieb Yaroslav M. Blanter: Hi Amir, anything which can be remotely considered as a tourist attraction, as well as shops, hotels, reataurants and such are withing the scope of Wikivoyage and thus of Wikidata. For streets, we h

Re: [Wikidata-l] Names, Aliases, Copyright (and a little OpenStreetMap)

Am 10.03.2015 um 16:55 schrieb Markus Krötzsch: > Hi Serge, > > The short answer to this is that the purpose of aliases in Wikidata is to help > searching for items, and nothing more. Aliases may include nicknames that are > in > no way official, and abbreviations that are not valid if used in an

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-10 16:28 GMT+01:00 Janko Mihelić : > What would this new Wikibase have that OpenStreetMap doesn't already have? The possibility of "talking" with WMF projects, as Wikidata "talks" with all the other projects... 2015-03-10 16:46 GMT+01:00 Daniel Kinzler : > Am 10.03.2015 um 16:32 schrieb Y

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

On 2015-03-10 14:31, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: Hi, [ Aude and Christian Consonni, this should especially interest you. ] I was throwing around ideas with a friend about how OpenStreetMap could be integrated with Wikidata. ... Towns obviously have or can a Wikipedia article about them, but proba

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-10 16:19 GMT+01:00 Luca Martinelli : > > A separate Wikibase instance that could serve both OSM and Wikivoyage, > maybe? Might be useful for both to keep the data about shops, > restaurants, hotels, commercial whatelses and whatnots in the same > instance, but keeping it separated by the "

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses

It would be fine to have all this together: _OSM_ seamark:type=light* _Wikidata_ https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q44782 _Wikipedia_ https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorie:Liste_(Leuchttürme) https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_Leuchttürmen _Commons_ commons:Lighthouse category:Lighthouses

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-10 15:08 GMT+01:00 Daniel Kinzler : > Am 10.03.2015 um 14:31 schrieb Amir E. Aharoni: >> If it's way too much, how can this be bridged, or federated, or whatever the >> current popular word is? I don't even know exactly how does OSM store labels >> and >> translations now, but it sounds li

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

Already thousands of streets have been added to Wikidata, without having an article about them on Wikipedia, nor that it would likely get an article in Wikipedia. Romaine 2015-03-10 14:31 GMT+01:00 Amir E. Aharoni : > Hi, > > [ Aude and Christian Consonni, this should especially interest you. ]

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

Maybe we should ask the question how many translations already are in OpenStreetMap that can be used/added to Wikidata? Romaine 2015-03-10 14:31 GMT+01:00 Amir E. Aharoni : > Hi, > > [ Aude and Christian Consonni, this should especially interest you. ] > > I was throwing around ideas with a fri

[Wikidata-l] Names, Aliases, Copyright (and a little OpenStreetMap)

Hi all, I'm a relative newcommer to Wikidata but long time OpenStreetMap contributor. Recently OpenStreetMap has a situation where large numbers of translated names have been added to OSM objects. When asked about the origin of these names, I've been told a number of places, one of which is Wikid

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

I am an avid OpenStreetMap user, and I like the Wikidata project very much. That's why I proposed a OSM tag wikidata=* and I wasn't the only one to think of this[1]. Making a wikidata element for every or some OSM elements is not quite possible, at least for now. OSM objects don't have constant ID

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

On 10 March 2015 at 13:31, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > I was throwing around ideas with a friend about how OpenStreetMap could be > integrated with Wikidata. I and others have done a lot of work on this already: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wikidata http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

I have been fostering the idea of Wikidata as a historical gazetteer, a place (name) index. Wikidata would be capable of modelling how streets change name or how municipalities are split or merged or link to changing geometries over time etc. Happy to hear this discussed! Susanna 2015-03-10 16

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Amir E. Aharoni < amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: > Hi, > > [ Aude and Christian Consonni, this should especially interest you. ] > > I was throwing around ideas with a friend about how OpenStreetMap could be > integrated with Wikidata. > > The thing that I ca

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

What about bus stops? Jo 2015-03-10 15:37 GMT+01:00 aude : > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Amir E. Aharoni < > amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> [ Aude and Christian Consonni, this should especially interest you. ] >> >> I was throwing around ideas with a friend about how Op

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

Am 10.03.2015 um 14:31 schrieb Amir E. Aharoni: > If it's way too much, how can this be bridged, or federated, or whatever the > current popular word is? I don't even know exactly how does OSM store labels > and > translations now, but it sounds like another instance of Wikibase, if not > Wikidata

Re: [Wikidata-l] Query generator spreadsheet

That's good to know. Looking forward to playing around with it when there's a test server up and running. Best, Navino On 10 March 2015 at 13:28, Markus Kroetzsch wrote: > On 10.03.2015 14:15, Navino Evans wrote: > >> Cheers Fabian, Magnus! >> >> Just had a quick look at the import-json functi

[Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

Hi, [ Aude and Christian Consonni, this should especially interest you. ] I was throwing around ideas with a friend about how OpenStreetMap could be integrated with Wikidata. The thing that I care the most in any software is internationalization. Having a map in which all labels of towns, street

Re: [Wikidata-l] Query generator spreadsheet

On 10.03.2015 14:15, Navino Evans wrote: Cheers Fabian, Magnus! Just had a quick look at the import-json function - looks pretty awesome :-) I probably won't be able to resist using it to make a mark-II mock up at some point. Thanks for the heads up about the upcoming Wikidata graph database,

Re: [Wikidata-l] Query generator spreadsheet

Cheers Fabian, Magnus! Just had a quick look at the import-json function - looks pretty awesome :-) I probably won't be able to resist using it to make a mark-II mock up at some point. Thanks for the heads up about the upcoming Wikidata graph database, I was aware that was in the pipeline. We'll

Re: [Wikidata-l] Query generator spreadsheet

Nice! One could even display the results in the spreadsheet, using this: http://blog.fastfedora.com/projects/import-json (haven't tried, though) Note that there is a "proper" Wikidata graph database being developed by WMF. Once that reaches production, WDQ will likely become a wrapper around that

Re: [Wikidata-l] Query generator spreadsheet

Great work, Navino! I agree, using google docs for the prototype is a really good way of getting something started all the best Fabian Tompsett, Volunteer Support Organiser, Wikimedia UK, Address: 56-64 Leonard St, Shoreditch, London EC2A 4LT Phone:020 7065 0990 *Mobile: *07840 455 746 Wikime