I think the order of languages is only important for articles with lots of
interwiki links, but for the vast majority of articles there will be less
than 5 or so and it doesn't matter. I often click on article interwikis for
languages I don't know and can't read (like Japanese). I do this for
Sven,
I see your point, since I also spent some time creating data items for
a while and then stopped. I disagree that this means that I lost
interest. I am still very interested, and I was also somewhat puzzled
by the new look. I disagree though that this release causes any more
confusion than
Nice work! Interesting to see that you made it in Mathematica, of all things!
2013/4/12, Michael Hale hale.michael...@live.com:
I made a quick demo of browsing Wikipedia categories by popularity.
The video is here (sorry about the audio quality):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3QXwY-XR28The
Wondering exactly the same thing - my frustrations with categories
began about three years ago and it seems I am surprised monthly by
severe limitations to this outdated apparatus. I am a heavy category
user, but I would love to be able to kick it out the door in favour of
a more structured
Yes, there is and should be more than one ontology, and that is already the
case with categories, which are so flexible they can loop around and become
their own grandfather.
Dbpedia complaints should be discussed on that list, I am not a dbpedia user,
though I think it's a useful project to
(DAG) with a single root at entity (thing).
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 3:03 AM, Mathieu
Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.org
wrote:
Le
2013-05-06 18:13, Jane Darnell a écrit :
Yes, there is and should be more than one
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I noticed this when I clicked on a few notorious Dutch-English
wikipages that I know of - thanks for all the good work! I for one,
appreciate it. I think the only reason this can be done is thanks to
WikiData, which now easily shows what other interwiki possibilities
are when you select an item.
Good work, David, go for it! I am very curious to see if the UN comes
back with anything
2013/6/19, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com:
Hi there!
I am right now at the LODLAM Summit in Montreal and there was a wish to get
Wikidata information, so I improvised a short talk (6th column of the
I don't see each file on Commons having its own WikiData item, but I
do think each subject of files should have their own item (and some,
but not all of them, may also have their own wikipedia pages). These
files on Commons could make use of properties on wikidata like is
designed by, is a copy
I was thinking about items vs properties and Commons. I am not sure a
F entity is necessary. In theory, each file on Commons can be linked
to another one, and each item on WikiData can be linked to another
one, but those links do not necessarily need to interconnect with
Commons. If a Commons file
:49 AM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote:
[...] do you think there is a need for this file to have its own F
status in WikiData?
Yes. The reason to have file entities is mainly to have a platform that
can store semantic descriptions of a file. For text searches in classical
terms
Michael,
The wonderful thing about organic growth models is that they are
sometimes extremely energy efficient, and very hard for computers to
compete with. If as you say such a 5-year-plan to reduce CO2
emissions were executed, all sorts of other, unintended bad things
would happen, such as
Hmm, I tried installing this plugin for Chrome, but I just get the
message This web page has not been found
2013/7/12, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.com:
(Apologies if you are getting this twice - I accidentally send this to
wikidata-tech earlier on.)
Hey all,
Today I had a day off and
Thanks Lydia!
2013/8/11, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de:
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
nemow...@gmail.com wrote:
Jiang BIAN, 10/08/2013 18:48:
Hi,
Is there a place that I can find the slides used on this Wikimania?
They have to go here:
number
of Wikidata items with no link at all to Wikipedia.
Thanks,
Gerard
On 11 August 2013 09:36, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote:
Hmm, I am not quite sure how to see this. Places and people yes: It
would be nice to have the geo coordinates on Wikidata and for the
artist
place?
After I sent that email it occurred to me though that probably most,
if not all the people on Commons who understand this stuff are already
Wikidatans anyway. So maybe it's a moot point.
2013/8/12, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com:
2013/8/11 Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com:
Hmm, I
Maarten, thanks for that clarification! Gerard, I totally agree with
you. Personally I was hoping for a way to use WikiData to find Commons
images that was *not* through the gallery/category structures as we
know them, for all the reasons Gerard has mentioned (in this and
previous mails).
Now
Sounds like another one of your brilliant ideas, Magnus. If you built
it, I would definitely use it.
I would also be happy with a description=name solution - anything is
better than the blank fields I see now.
2013/9/7, Luca Martinelli martinellil...@gmail.com:
2013/9/7 Magnus Manske
Ditto! Can't wait to see what the next year brings- Jane
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On Oct 29, 2013, at 1:02 AM, Alolita Sharma alolita.sha...@gmail.com wrote:
Awesomely cool. Lydia thanks for sharing and celebrating Wikidata's first
birthday.
Alolita Sharma
On Oct 28, 2013 4:59 PM, Lydia
Hi TomTOm,
Be careful what you wish for! If this were possible, then if someone changed
the dates, this could mess up other things. We already have a big job
untangling mismatched interwiki links, and this would make such mismatches
possible to the nth degree.
Jane
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On Nov 4,
I would imagine it's for fictional characters like Little Red Riding
Hood, but I see that when I click on What links here while on page
Q215627 I see Sleeping Beauty, but also roles and dead people. I am
just as lost as you are!
2014-02-15 2:42 GMT+01:00, Hady elsahar hadyelsa...@gmail.com:
Hi
my 2c: I trust your judgement, so to the last two queries: No and Yes
respectively.
2014-02-26 14:20 GMT+01:00, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk:
Suppose I publish a web page about a notable person, building or other
entity; and that the subject has a Wikidata entry.
What's the best
Hi Andy,
You hit the nail on the head! I have been cataloguing the artists of
the Netherlands since 2009 and have created tons of stubs on Wikipedia
that now all need to become items on Wikidata. Most of them became
items in the Great Item-creation party of the first few months after
WD's birth,
I was stumped by the same question and couldn't find an answer
anywhere either - as I recall, I just picked the default option,
whichever it was
2014-04-27 14:04 GMT+02:00, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgr...@gmail.com:
I started my
bothttps://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dexboton:
P31
Hi all,
What I don't understand is the need to keep all labels blank until
they are updated by hand. Especially for biographical articles, it
would be nice to have original spellings of the person's name, even if
it's Chinese or something else really far away from English. That
might serve as a
David,
I assume you are referring to books. The same is true for works of
art. The reason why these statements are still valuable is because it
is an attribution based on grounds determined by someone somewhere and
based on that loose statement alone are therefore considered of
interest. You
:
a) uncertainty: it is hinted that Pete was the son of Klaus, but I have no
conclusive proof
b) rebuttal: Source A says that Pete was the younger brother of Klaus, I
can disprove that (but I cannot provide an alternative)
Cheers,
Micru
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Jane Darnell jane
claims (even if they
don't offer better ones).
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote:
Hmm, I guess I am still not getting it - both of your examples
wouldn't make it into one of my Wikipedia articles, and I would
probably remove them from an existing article
Kolossos,
Thanks for this work - it's fascinating to see the huge gaps in the
data and I was wondering if maybe this reflects the work of lots of
individuals who have input those properties by hand, or whether some
people have enabled clever bots for their regions that other regions
could reuse?
Derric,
Good luck with your edit-a-thon today [1] and it would be awesome if you
could introduce Reasonator and Wikidata while discussing Wikipedia. I think
it is very interesting that you just discovered Magnus through Reasonator
instead of the other way around - discovering more of Magnus
Q17 is Japan, and if you are interested in people from Japan for example,
you can do this:
http://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?q=7463305
(thanks to Magnus' reasonator tool that can extract category-like info from
Wikidata based on properties and qualifiers)
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:01 AM,
I would like the same sort of thing for use on the English Wikipedia for
pictures, so for example if you link to the Wikidata item image property
and this is filled with a value, it will present the image that is on
Wikidata, and if not, will present an alternate such as [1]. Has anyone
built such
I just created this on Wikidata here, but the list order is out of whack:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Talk:Q17616737
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
wrote:
On 3 September 2014 04:51, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote:
I would like the same sort
, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote:
I would like the same sort of thing for use on the English Wikipedia for
pictures, so for example if you link to the Wikidata item image
property and
this is filled with a value, it will present the image that is on
Wikidata,
and if not, will present
I think the place for all data about an image should be Wikidata. It will
be trivial to update a Wikidata item with an image when that image becomes
available on Commons. Until that time, the item can point to a catalog's
online or offline entry where the image can be viewed. I am thinking for
@Daniel - the further back you go, the more notable the engravings in books
become (see for example the whole family of engravings and copies thereof
for the 17th-century Counts of Holland series) and sometimes engravings
from books are the source for paintings.
@Nemo - I don't follow your
There are multiple issues with linking the German Wikipedia's afrikanische
Pflaume to the French Wikipedia's safou:
1) A tree can only interwikilink to a tree or combined article on the tree
+ fruit and a fruit can only interwikilink to a fruit or a combined article
on the tree + fruit (this is
nope
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Smolenski Nikola smole...@eunet.rs wrote:
Citiranje Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com:
2) There is no way of making an interwikilink for a redirect, and the
German Wikipedia's afrikanische Pflaume is currently a redirect to
Prunus
You should still
Romaine,
Have you looked at quick statements to add or update information in
Wikidata? It is here:
http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/quick_statements.php
Maybe this will help you do repetitive updates (you still need to build a
list of something, but then you don't have to wait for Wikidata
').
Allowing and encouraging sitelinks to redirect is the key to keeping a
clean item structure on Wikidata, while still connecting readers to the
most relevant pages in their preferred alternative languages.
-- James.
On 14/10/2014 21:00, Jane Darnell wrote:
nope
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014
are in en, cs, fr, es, it, pt, pl, da and others too. But
when I want to find relevant articles, I must try each language
separate. With alowed redirects, I find it.
JAnD
2014-10-16 11:06 GMT+02:00 Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com:
With a view to supporting mobile, why bundle concepts needlessly
and persistent.
Joe
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote:
Redirects are indeed cheap on Wikipedia, and I have created tons of them
on the English Wikipedia. I am a big fan of redirects, but only on
Wikipedia. Redirects are not useful for Wikidatans or for Wikipedians
Purodha,
Redirects are cheap - so cheap in fact, that they take up more space when
you delete them, so even if they are misspelled or whatever, they are
mostly left to rot unless they break something (for example when someone
wants to use a redlink like [[redlink]] and someone else makes a
My comments inline:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Joe Filceolaire filceola...@gmail.com
wrote:
Having sitelinks to redirects in my wikipedia makes it easier for other
wikipedias to link to my wikipedia.
No, it only makes it easy for other wikipedias to link to redirects in your
wikipedia,
No James, redirects do not have templates or categories. Back to the case
of the African plum, I have created an English label for the Wikidata item,
so that when I seach the English Wikipedia and choose the option
everything, this Wikidata item will show up:
OK Andy Gerard, cut it out! I like both of you, but we will never fix
things this way. As you correctly point out Gerard, Wikipedians should
spend more time adding labels and aliases to existing items and creating
new items on Wikidata rather than just making redirects on Wikipedia. As
you
Thanks! I really like seeing the q number in the global usage section on commons
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On Oct 27, 2014, at 5:24 PM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de
wrote:
Hey folks :)
Here is your weekly summary for the past week around Wikidata.
Other Noteworthy Stuff
The
Redirects are great! They belong locally though and should not be attempted
cross-wiki
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hoi,
The only reason why Wikidata and Reasonator are not found is because this
is not configured.
yes you may think as you
be in the list of surrealist painters.
2014-12-30 14:41 GMT+01:00 Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com:
I would suggest you are thinking from the wrong perspective. Think
specific, and work your way from there. On the English Wikipedia, there are
tons of lists which each have their own set of rules
Lydia, I believe you meant to say override, not overwrite. Freudian
slip, but I found it rather funny (and could think of multiple instances
where that might even be true).
Jane
2015-01-03 12:46 GMT+01:00 Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de:
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Flaken
Actually, I would posit that the inverse of that statement is true
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Thomas Douillard
thomas.douill...@gmail.com wrote:
Generated a grammatically correct same meaning sentence in all language in
the planet automatically is way more difficult than finding a user
Magnus' tool called PrepBio will create a brief or extended biography
infobox for use on the English Wikipedia. I would really like to see a
PrepPlace tool developed that does the same thing for locations.
http://tools.wmflabs.org/magnustools/prepbio.php
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:29 AM,
Hi Amir,
We created a template in the English Wikipedia for this and I used it here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koekkoek
I also just stumbled across this, which is also acceptable here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wauters
The first method keeps the enwiki link red, which is what you want,
I'm thinking it should be a combination of syntax in the page, but also in
the New Page create page. That page now directs you to the new Drafts
userspace, but I think it should direct you also to Wikidata. That page
says this now on enwiki:
Before creating an article, please read Wikipedia:Your
Lydia,
Good question! To answer your question, I have no idea. There have been no
deletion discussions, but use of the template is limited at best. Here are
few more ways I used it:
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eerebegraafplaats_Bloemendaal
...@wikimedia.de wrote:
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote:
Lydia,
Thanks. Is this the team responsible for the suggested properties? As a
Wikidata user, how do I see their work exactly?
Yes they are.
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WikidataQuality is the best
Lydia,
Thanks. Is this the team responsible for the suggested properties? As a
Wikidata user, how do I see their work exactly?
Jane
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Lydia Pintscher
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hey folks :)
The students team working on data quality is making good
Lydia,
Thanks - I have used those suggestions tons of times and I have noticed the
suggestions getting better. Great and useful work definitely!
Jane
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Lydia Pintscher
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote:
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Jane Darnell jane
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Lydia Pintscher
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote:
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote:
Lydia,
Thanks. Is this the team responsible for the suggested properties? As a
Wikidata user, how do I see their work exactly
+1 on collecting the click data! I for one would bet that the number of
page creators in any given Wikipedia that know enough to even look at the
left side of the page is quite small. In my experience, most page creators
are unaware that Wikipedia exists in any language but their own
On Thu, Jan
A link to Reasonator would be more useful probably, or at at least offering
that as a choice along with the message no sitelinks found
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Daniel Kinzler
daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de wrote:
Am 29.01.2015 um 02:05 schrieb Federico Leva (Nemo):
This should be very
/ and @wikimediauk
On 29 January 2015 at 14:23, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Fabian,
I think your logic is flawed, as I believe most of the Welsh contributors
probably also read the English Wikipedia. This will be true for many
languages that are closely related, such as Dutch and Afrikaans
by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk
On 29 January 2015 at 11:00, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote:
+1 on collecting the click data! I for one would bet that the number of
page creators in any given
I assume Magnus is referring to cases where for example, an item exists
because someone's biography has been added to the Esperanto Wikipedia as a
leading esperantist, but whose actual claim to fame for other Wikipedias is
quite different (e.g. the person was a poet in another language, a leading
Amir,
The most important thing to consider when you look at the burden to the
community is the Bonnie Clyde problem where it gets to be the choice of
a few editors (maybe just one?) on any given Wikipedia. I noticed that the
English Wikipedia only has one article for both Q11629 the art of
I can't imagine anyone reading these mails who has never hit the edit
button at least once on some random Wikimedia project. Could it possibly be
entertaining otherwise? For the sorry few who need to read these mails for
their work (whatever that may be), they have my sympathy.
On Sun, Jan 4,
Wikiskim is great! It's International Women's Day though, so maybe this
link is better
https://tools.wmflabs.org/hay/wdskim/index.php?prop=P170item=Q232423language=enwithimages=on
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Lydia Pintscher
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hey folks :)
Here's your
Interesting approach, and one I would support. I have been against forcing
Wikidata into any other jacket than one of its own knitting, but this
approach makes OWL look like any other external database that may or may
not come with properties worth integrating into Wikidata's jacket
On Fri, Apr
What about people who were born in the 18th-century? We know they are dead,
but their death is not recorded and we only know when they were last
active. How do you set that end date?
On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Stas Malyshev smalys...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Hi!
Actually I think that
So the intention is to use Q19798647 as a random place holder specifically
for Wikibase entities without a value, but not as a no value placeholder
for a person? I think it is useful in the way you describe it, but I am
curious how you would model the source B saying that X had no child
On Thu,
: there
is an option Select for merging now which wasn't there before it broke
yesterday.
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Lydia Pintscher
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote:
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 5:08 AM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, I no longer see the option to merge an item. Clicking
Hi, I no longer see the option to merge an item. Clicking on random items i see
the star for watching an item, but no more tab for other options such as move
or merge. Has this function been replaced with some other method?
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On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 5:08 AM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, I no longer see the option to merge an item. Clicking on random items
i see the star for watching an item, but no more tab for other options such
as move or merge. Has this function been replaced
For paintings you can better look here:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_sum_of_all_paintings
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Valentine Charles valentine...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello,
I wanted to get an overview of all the properties used boy the instance
Painting
The more I think about this issue, the more I think we need a separate
animal altogether that sits between Wikidata and Wikipedia (or alongside it
somehow) and that is a quick-ref simple mobile version that acts as a
go-between to image data on Commons (or any other WM project). Right now
This is great! I just ran through the whole 1001 Vrouwen list of the DVN
hier:
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Jane023/DVN
It seems to work fine, but there are no links for anything but the article
portion, so not quite as useful as the same functionality on the enwiki,
but still way, WAY
...]
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 2:37 PM Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote:
This is great! I just ran through the whole 1001 Vrouwen list of the
DVN hier:
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Jane023/DVN
It seems to work fine, but there are no links for anything but the
article portion, so not quite
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