[Wikidata-l] Forthcoming editathons
I am hosting some editathons: Thurs 28 May, Birmingham: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/Royal_Society_of_Chemistry/BH-2015 at Birmingham Museums Collection centre (only rarely open to the public!). We'll enjoy a 'backstage tour and the opportunity to photograph objects, as well,of course, writing articles. Weds 29 July, London https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/Royal_Society_of_Chemistry/BH-2015 in the library of the Royal Society of Chemistry. The focus will be on chemistry-related topics; including both scientific and non-scientific content (the latter including biographies, for example). I hope we'll have someone there from the ChemSpider team. Sat 8 August, North Cheshire Watch this space (and keep the date free)! In each case, lunch and refreshments will be provided; there will be support for new editors (maybe you can help?) and we'll work on sister projects such as Wikimedia Commons, Wikidata and Wikisource, as well as Wikipedia. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata for Wiktionary
On 7 May 2015 at 11:57, Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote: Let's focus on Commons, OpenStreetMap, queries, arbitrary access, new datatypes? OSM in what context? Also, we should throw WikiSpecies into the mix. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata for Wiktionary
On 7 May 2015 at 18:27, Yair Rand yyairr...@gmail.com wrote: The Wiktionary communities tend to strongly disagree that splitting entries per language would be easier for either editors or readers. How many languages are currently used? How will this scale to ~300 languages? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata
On 23 April 2015 at 15:20, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure how I missed this discussion, but adding information from OSM into Wikidata en mass like this is a violation of the OSM license. Nobody is prosing to add information from OSM into Wikidata en mass. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata
On 23 April 2015 at 15:09, Edward Betts edw...@4angle.com wrote: Here is my latest mapping between Wikidata items and OpenStreetMap objects: I'm still working on debugging the mismatches, before uploading the data to OpenStreetMap: Thank you - I'm looknig forward to seeing thsi happen. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] World's largest cities with a female mayor :-)
On 20 April 2015 at 21:18, Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org wrote: (Madrid has a suspiciously large number of current mayors ...) Not any more ;-) -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] mapping template parameters using Wikidata?
On 5 March 2015 at 18:22, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: I've made such a proposal there: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Unsorted#Infobox_property Please feel free to comment at that page. More comments there would be useful. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] External identifiers vs. Wikidata-internal links data
On 4 April 2015 at 10:20, Thomas Douillard thomas.douill...@gmail.com wrote: I guess a class of properties ''external identifier definition property'' with isbn instance of external identifier prop could be useful as well. The property for an ORCID iD (P 496), for example, is an instance of Wikidata property for authority control for people (Q19595382). That, in turn is a sub-class of Wikidata property for authority control (Q18614948) -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata
On 10 March 2015 at 13:31, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: I was throwing around ideas with a friend about how OpenStreetMap could be integrated with Wikidata. I and others have done a lot of work on this already: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wikidata http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:wikipedia My proposal for a bot to tag items in OSM, with the corresponding Wikidata ID: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing/Wikipedia has stalled, due to OSM-community opposition to automated edits: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-November/071510.html though I hope we shall soon be able to get a trial edit done, to show that a larger set should follow. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata
On 10 March 2015 at 15:32, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: For streets, we have now an approved bot task adding all Dutch streets on Wikidata Approved by whom? I foresee the majority of those being deleted as non- notable. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata
On 10 March 2015 at 20:20, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: On 2015-03-10 20:47, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 10 March 2015 at 15:32, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: For streets, we have now an approved bot task adding all Dutch streets on Wikidata Approved by whom? I foresee the majority of those being deleted as non- notable. By me as a crat. You mean this: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/RobotMichiel1972_2 which was approved after two days, and with only comments - not a !vote of support - from just one editor other than the proposer? That's not much discussion, much less evidence of consensus for a 240,000-item import and a precedent for several magnitudes more than that. In the future, if you want your opinion on bot tasks to be taken into account, please comment on bot permission requests. I usually let them pend for several days, which obviously can be extended if there are constructive comments. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] mapping template parameters using Wikidata?
On 4 March 2015 at 10:26, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
Maybe we should store these internationalised templates here on wikidata?
I need help from people who understand Wikidata (and possible dbpedia)
better than I do to figure out the details of getting it done.
I should be able to help with that. I think we need to break the
problem down into small chunks, and start with a simple case - such as
your mention of {{Infobox architect}}.
On Wikidata, that's:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q10973090
On the English Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_architect
it has parameters such as:
| name =
| image =
| birth_date =
| alma_mater =
| spouse =
| awards =
Those may be said to have Wikidata equivalences:
| name = [label]
| image = P18
| birth_date = P569
| alma_mater = P69
| spouse = P26
| awards = P166
Before we do anything with mapping to DBpedia, we need a way to say
that, in Wikidata:
Q10973090 [has property] P18
qualifiers: in en, fr, nl Wikipedias
Q10973090 [has property] P569
qualifiers: in en, de, nl Wikipedias
and so on (qualifiers are hypothetical).
I've made such a proposal there:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Unsorted#Infobox_property
Please feel free to comment at that page.
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Re: [Wikidata-l] mapping template parameters using Wikidata?
On 3 March 2015 at 18:39, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de wrote:
The dbPedia mapping wiki[1] has this information, at least to some extent.
Let's
say you are looking at {{Cricketer Infobox}} on en. You can look out the
DBPedia
mappings for the template parameters on their mapping page[2]. There you can
see
that the country parameter maps to the country proeprty in the dbpedia
ontology[2], which in turn uses owl:equivalentProperty to cross-link P17[4].
Sounds good. We also have a problem on en.Wikipedia (and presumably
elsewhere) of inconsistency in template parameter naming (latitude,
lat and latd all mean the same thing, for example). Some templates
even have to support multiple versions, for backwards compatibility.
If as part of this exercise we could resolve that, it would be a
bonus. Though I expect some resistance form those allergic to
change...
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Re: [Wikidata-l] mapping template parameters using Wikidata?
On 24 September 2014 at 12:18, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: TL;DR: Did anybody consider using Wikidata items of Wikipedia templates to store multilingual template parameters mapping? If this lets us get rid of the awful TemplateData implementation, which duplicates but does not integrate with pre-existing prose template documentation, I'm all for it. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Mapillary property
On 2 March 2015 at 10:06, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote: There you go: [...] That's the link to edit the section; to read it, use: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/References#Mapillary -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] descriptions in mobile app
On 9 February 2015 at 10:41, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: Manual descriptions are, in the vast majority of cases, a waste of volunteer time. Alternative: http://magnusmanske.de/wordpress/?p=265 Why not make that part of the Wikidata game? You could show the proposed description and the article lede, in the user's preferred language, then offer options to: * Accept the prosed description * Edit the proposed description, then save it * reject the proposed description and skip to the next article For en users, you could add a check-box to also save the proposed description to simple. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata
On 7 January 2015 at 20:29, Nicolas Torzec torz...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: Also, when adding information to Wikipedia/Wikidata, it is best practice (but not mandatory) to provide external references backing up your claims. Some property values are self referencing; VIAF and ORCID identifiers, for instance, thanks to the Formatter URL of their respective properties. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata
On 3 January 2015 at 18:13, Joe Filceolaire filceola...@gmail.com wrote: The terms of use are the minimum requirements. Each wiki may have more requirements. No, they are the *default* requirements. Each wiki may have *different* requirements. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Sitelinks to Redirects
On 21 October 2014 07:13, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: If this Jackson Douglas is the best that you can do, you destroyed the argument that it has merit. Gerard, I like you; but you're being a dick. Please desist. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Sitelinks to Redirects
On 19 October 2014 22:11, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: No James, redirects do not have templates or categories Yes, they do. See, for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:R_from_relative as used on, for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jackson_Douglasredirect=no There are a whole bunch of such templates in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Redirect_templates -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Users do understand Wikidata less than before
On 15 October 2014 13:22, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Wikidata is NOT Wikipedia driven so the notion of redirects Perhaps not, but I have just created Q18289539, about thw BBC's new 'Genome' online database: http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/ I have also created: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Genome as a redirect to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Times#Digitisation Radio Times already has a separate Wikdiata entry. There is a logical equivalence between Q18289539 and /BBC_Genome, but not between Q18289539 and /Radio_Times, nor /Radio_Times#Digitisation I should like to add a sitelink to /BBC_Genome, to Q18289539, not least because one day, somebody might turn that redirect into an article; or add categories to it. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
[Wikidata-l] Wikimedian in Residence at the Royal Society of Chemistry
I have some news: http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/wikimedian-residence-royal-society-chemistry/ I'll set up on-wiki pages in a couple of weeks. [BCC to several mailing lists; please set replies accordingly] -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikimedian in Residence at the Royal Society of Chemistry
Thanks Ben, I plan to reach out to all the relevant projects, once I'm settled in. I'll be sure to include WikiProject Molecular biology. On 11 September 2014 17:06, Benjamin Good ben.mcgee.g...@gmail.com wrote: Thats great Andy! Hope to see you connecting with https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Molecular_biology - specifically with regard to drug information. cheers -Ben On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 4:51 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: I have some news: http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/wikimedian-residence-royal-society-chemistry/ I'll set up on-wiki pages in a couple of weeks. [BCC to several mailing lists; please set replies accordingly] -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Linking to Wikipedia page using Wikidata ID
On 3 September 2014 04:51, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: I would like the same sort of thing for use on the English Wikipedia for pictures, so for example if you link to the Wikidata item image property and this is filled with a value, it will present the image that is on Wikidata, and if not, will present an alternate such as [1]. Has anyone built such a thing? [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Noimage.svg No, but people have written templates that pull in other Wikidata values, so it's certainly possible. I'm blind-copying this to someone who may be able to help. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
[Wikidata-l] GoToLinkedPage [was: Re: Linking to Wikipedia page using Wikidata ID]
On 28 August 2014 13:08, Nicholas Humfrey nicholas.humf...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Could you put linking to the user's preferred language (Accept-Language header?) on the backlog? Good idea; we should also handle missing articles better, for instance: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:GoToLinkedPage/cywiki/Q732383 currently returns a form, it should instead return: http://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?q=Q732383 or at least an invitation to start the Welsh page, and/ or a link to (say) Google Translate. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Commons Wikibase
On 20 August 2014 16:51, Paul Houle ontolo...@gmail.com wrote: I have a cheap digital camera which is pretty good except that the clock periodically resets to a default time. You probably need to replace the internal battery. I keep the clock in my camera set to UTC, wherever I am in the world, because I was always forgetting to change it/ change it back when I changed timezones. My hone photos, though, have correct local times, because my phone updates its clock automatically. Meh. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Commons Wikibase
On 18 August 2014 14:30, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: I'm not sure we're talking about the exact same thing so let me write down how I envision it: * For a file on Commons there will be a second page on Commons that holds the structured data about that file. So if the file is HamsterBerta.jpg then we have something like Info:HamsterBerta.jpg. (Info isn't decided yet!) This is what we currently call MediaInfo and is comparable to an item on Wikidata. I'd envisaged a singe page, with image and prose at the top, and Wikidata-style properties below. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Commons Wikibase
On 18 August 2014 15:22, James Heald j.he...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: (I'm not particularly hung up about the C -- it could be anything. But F for file is perhaps potentially too restrictive for future development). A for audio D for documents I for images V for videos ? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Items without any label
I'm not sure what you mean by that; please clarify. On Aug 14, 2014 12:45 PM, Enock Seth Nyamador kwadzo...@gmail.com wrote: No Andy. I think it should be a feature then. - Enock On Aug 14, 2014 9:08 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: Is that a job for the Wikidata Game? On Aug 14, 2014 9:06 AM, Lukas Benedix lukas.bene...@fu-berlin.de wrote: Hi, I found ~16.000 Items without any label. I have no idea how it's possible to create those and how to fix this problem, so here is the list for whoever can: http://tools.wmflabs.org/lbenedix/wikidata/items_without_any_label_20140811.txt Lukas ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Items without any label
I'm not sure what you mean by that; please clarify. On Aug 14, 2014 12:45 PM, Enock Seth Nyamador kwadzo...@gmail.com wrote: No Andy. I think it should be a feature then. - Enock On Aug 14, 2014 9:08 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: Is that a job for the Wikidata Game? On Aug 14, 2014 9:06 AM, Lukas Benedix lukas.bene...@fu-berlin.de wrote: Hi, I found ~16.000 Items without any label. I have no idea how it's possible to create those and how to fix this problem, so here is the list for whoever can: http://tools.wmflabs.org/lbenedix/wikidata/items_without_any_label_20140811.txt Lukas ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Items without any label
Is that a job for the Wikidata Game? On Aug 14, 2014 9:06 AM, Lukas Benedix lukas.bene...@fu-berlin.de wrote: Hi, I found ~16.000 Items without any label. I have no idea how it's possible to create those and how to fix this problem, so here is the list for whoever can: http://tools.wmflabs.org/lbenedix/wikidata/items_without_any_label_20140811.txt Lukas ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] {{Universal infocard}} in ruwiki, and cross-wiki coordination
On 12 August 2014 14:00, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: What does it entail? In part, resolving the vehement opposition to infoboxes in parts of the English Wikipedia, and the decision not to use them for biographies on the German Wikipedia. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata just got 10 times easier to use
On 1 July 2014 20:20, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: We have just deployed the entity suggester. This helps you with suggesting properties. So when you now add a new statement to an item it will suggest what should most likely be added to that item. One example: You are on an item about a person but it doesn't have a date of birth yet. Since a lot of other items about persons have a date of birth it will suggest you also add one to this item. This is a great idea, but I've just tried it on Q4810979 (about an historic building) and it prompted me for a date of birth, gender, taxon rank or taxon name. Teething troubles? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Reasonator ignores of qualifier
On 17 June 2014 03:41, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, there seem to be some cognitive dissonance going on here, it's weird. Andy wants an item about himself. I want policy, particularly the notability policy, to be applied consistently and honestly. 'The Community' said 'no, not yet'. Not so. There was no emerging consensus before the item was deleted; and further on-Wikidata discussion effectively prohibited. Andy regularly raises this as an inconsistency. I do? Regularly? Where? When? Items for contributors is a special-case problem that the community needs to solve with a focused RFC, Is it? We have items for other contributors; there is no policy prohibiting them,. but maybe now isnt the right time, I raised the issue of notability; not a specific item, because it seemed apposite to the then-current discussion. (I responded to the comment It is even said in the notability criteria that if we can clearly identify the concept, like with an id in some authority or national database, then it is notable. With evidence of a counter view being applied; it soon became clear that I'm not the only person to have observed this. It is you who has instead chosen to make it about the specific case. and raising it in every discussion that touches on notability is not helpful. every discussion...? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Reasonator ignores of qualifier
On 16 June 2014 18:40, Thomas Douillard thomas.douill...@gmail.com wrote: It is even said in the notability criteria that if we can clearly identify the concept, like with an id in some authority or national database, then it is notable. That's certainly what the policy says. It's not what some admins accept, though. A direct quote from one, from as recently as March this year: * The general spirit of the notability policy is that Wikipedia finds [the subject] notable -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
[Wikidata-l] New template for Wikipedia articles about Wikidata properties
I have created {{Wikidata property}} [1] (example on [2]), for
suitable en.Wikipedia articles about subjects for which we have a
property in Wikidata. Please help to improve and apply it (can anyone
generate a list of relevant articles?), and to migrate it to
other-language Wikipedias.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikidata_property
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORCID
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Gadget
On 10 June 2014 15:23, Katie Filbert katie.filb...@wikimedia.de wrote: Does anyone know if there has been a gadget developed that adds a link to the tools section, or somewhere similar, from Wikipedia articles to their corresponding Wikidata items. Such a gadget would make it significantly easier to manually import data in Wikidata while reading Wikipedia casually. This is already done by Wikibase. There should be a data item link in the toolbox in the sidebar if the item is connected. Which is very useful. What would also be useful, would be a create data item link, if no item exists already. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] qLabel
On 1 April 2014 20:01, Denny Vrandečić vrande...@google.com wrote: a bug on the github project I've raised another, about the use of adjectives and adverbs: https://github.com/googleknowledge/qlabel/issues/2 -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] [cultural-partners] Wikidata and GLAM
On Mar 20, 2014 12:33 AM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 12:53 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: P.S. I have just proposed an accession number property for Wikidata, which may also be of interest: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Unsorted#Accession_number I don't think it is necessary, we alredy have catalog code: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P528 That is for the catalogue name of an astronomic object. Please remove the alias you have just added to it. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] [OHM] Should we map former endonyms?
On 20 March 2014 06:58, Susanna Ånäs susanna.a...@gmail.com wrote: [Snip other interesting stuff; CCs again trimmed] Do the notability guidelines of Wikimedia allow storing only important places? English Wikipedia has a de facto guideline of considering any settlement which is on a reliable and independent map or gazetteer to be notable enough to have an article; (the current draft proposal to formalise this is at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NGEO Wikidata notability guidelines accept anything with a Wikipedia article (in any language) *or* which is a clearly identifiable conceptual or material entity. The entity must be notable, in the sense that it can be described using serious and publicly available references. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] [OSM-talk] [OHM] Should we map former endonyms?
On 20 March 2014 17:43, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: I think the problem is that we sometimes need to reflect more than just the single official name - at the moment we include multilingual names, which is great, and it's a bit of a backwards step to lose that ability for the past. Why would we loose that ability? However, as you can see at the moment, the other names are simple strings with no dates or modifiers, so we can't convey this information. In Wikidata? The language modifier, at least, can be used in Wikidata today. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] [cultural-partners] Wikidata and GLAM
On 19 March 2014 18:23, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Next month I will be presenting a half a day meeting in the Netherlands for a big GLAM partner. What would you like to see covered in such a workshop / presentation. What emphasis would work for you best. Authority control [*]. Geo-tagging/ coordinates. Adding tags to objects in OpenStreetMap, linking back to Wikidata. The usefulness of Wikipedians-in-Residence (in the wider sense, Wikipedian simply being a more easily understood label for a role covering sister projects, including Wikidata, and the wider open- movement). We need GLAMs to make suggestions for features/ properties they'd find useful in Wikidata. Good luck with the presentation; or, rather, break a leg! [*] As an aside, please invite and encourage every attendee to register for an ORCID identifier http://orcid.org, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORCID (and to put it on their Wikipedia and Wikidata user pages, if they have them) -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Making Wikidata entries at the time of 'Article for Creation' publication
On 10 March 2014 23:28, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: I'd love to know how you think that will happen, in a timely manner, for the kinds of people who use AfC, Where do you see the biggest obstacles right now in the process? Maybe we can identify those and then see if we can find solutions for them? I'm not saying what you're seeing isn't a problem we need to fix. I just think we need to solve it in a better way. Let's find it. The long answer to your question is for you to spend some time looking through, reviewing, and where appropriate publishing, the articles (especially biographies) submitted at AfC (on en.WP, though de.WP and others presumably have an equivalent?). The short asnwer is that we're talking about people who are using Wikipedia for the first time, and struggling, often requiring several iterations, to understand templates, referencing and other things which you and I take for granted. Meanwhile, articles are being created, daily, via AfC with no Wikidata equivalent, or where someone has to create the equivalent manually, cutting-and-pasting or retyping text, rather than having tools do the work for them. That's crazy. Sure. That is clearly not a great situation and we should see if we can improve it. What I'm saying is that we should not improve it by making people enter even more information in Wikipedia and then copy it over to Wikipedia [ITYM copy it over to Wikidata] I'm not sugegsting that we make people enter even more information in Wikipedia; I'm suggesting that wikidata would benefit from capturing the data that is /already/ being entered into Wikipedia, not least via AfC, by the people I describe above; and that I and others who review and publish those articles would benefit from tool to save us the manual task of having to retype (into Wikidata) what we're already asked to type once (into the AfC tool) as part of that process. Let's identify the specific issues and see if we can find other solutions for them. I'm pretty sure I already identified the specific issue here. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Making Wikidata entries at the time of 'Article for Creation' publication
On 12 March 2014 15:00, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sugegsting that we make people enter even more information in Wikipedia; I'm suggesting that wikidata would benefit from capturing the data that is /already/ being entered into Wikipedia, not least via AfC, by the people I describe above; and that I and others who review and publish those articles would benefit from tool to save us the manual task of having to retype (into Wikidata) what we're already asked to type once (into the AfC tool) as part of that process. We cannot get there yet, since we depend on many features still in development: 1.- Simple data editing from VisualEditor 2.- Easy way to map wikipedia template fields to wikidata properties 3.- Migration of main infobox templates to make use of Wikidata What does this have to do with AfC? Indeed, nowhere in your post do you mention AfC, once. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Making Wikidata entries at the time of 'Article for Creation' publication
On 12 March 2014 20:38, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed, nowhere in your post do you mention AfC, once. Because there is no difference between creating an article through enwiki-AfC or creating an article on any of the other 270+ language editions of WP. Yes, there is (unless you're referring to AfC on all those Wikiepdias.) How many biographies have you published using AfC on en.WP? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Making Wikidata entries at the time of 'Article for Creation' publication
On 10 March 2014 07:41, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: I agree with what Gerard wrote. Then please see my response to him. We should be moving away from a world where information is entered on Wikipedia and then in addition on Wikidata. We need to move to a world where information is added in Wikidata and then used on Wikipedia. I'd love to know how you think that will happen, in a timely manner, for the kinds of people who use AfC, Otherwise the whole idea ofther t Wikidata is kinda moot. It will not happen tomorrow and need more work but this is where we should be going and I'd rather we didn't take steps that drag this process out even longer. Meanwhile, articles are being created, daily, via AfC with no Wikidata equivalent, or where someone has to create the equivalent manually, cutting-and-pasting or retyping text, rather than having tools do the work for them. That's crazy. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Making Wikidata entries at the time of 'Article for Creation' publication
On 10 March 2014 04:10, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: You have it backwards, in my opinion at least. I think that's a rather bold statement, even couched as an opinion. When someone is notable enough for a Wikipedia article, create a Wikidata item and include all the pertinent information for that person. You may even be surprised in finding that the person already exists. Are you familar, as I am, with the AfC proces to which I referred? It's used mostly by novice users making their first articles. What makes you think such people will ever start with Wikidata, much less in its current form? There are many people from the USA or the UK who have an article in a Wikipedia but not in the English Wikipedia. So? How does that help the people currently using AfC? When the known information has been entered, you will find in the Reasonator a text generated based on the available information when the subject is a human. This is proof of concept functionality that is best developed at this time for English. I'm very familiar with Reasonator; indeed, I proposed a modest number of its features. What makes you think the AfC users will be? What you are proposing however is something else; have Wikidata information included based on an article. There are several parts to this; when a subject is part of a specific category or lists, it would follow that specific statements can be made based on this information. When an article has a specific template / infobox the information in the infobox implies specific statements. That is indeed my point. This is a bit of an issue; when Wikidata already knows about a subject and has that information it could serve the Wikipedia with that information. Who says that new information from a Wikipedia is better than existing information in Wikidata ? Who says that the information relating to AfC article candidates is in Wikidata? However, the notion that Wikipedia has the information first is a false premise; Poppycock; I see examples all the time where articles are created in Wikipedia (via AfC or otherwise) with no equivalent in Wikidata. Wikidata has more than 50% more items than en,wp has articles. That may be true; but it rarely has items on the articles proposed via AfC. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
[Wikidata-l] Making Wikidata entries at the time of 'Article for Creation' publication
I have been helping with the backlog of Article for Creation requests on en.Wikipedia. It occurs to me that in doing so I often supply enough data to start a Wikidata entry (or, at least, to pre-populate one for further editing before saving). Please see : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation#Wikidata for more on this; help from a coder would be useful. Something for the hackathon, perhaps? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] supported and planned wikidata uris( was Re:Meta header for asserting that a web page is about a Wikidata subject)
On Feb 27, 2014 11:02 AM, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de wrote: To recap and add some details: http://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q12345 is the canonical URI for the concept http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q12345 is the format-agnostic canonical URI of the *description* of the object (the data URI, for short). http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q12345 is the URL of the HTML representation of the description of the concept (i.e. the wiki page) http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q12345.json is the URL of the JSON representation of the description of the concept http://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q12345.json works as a redirect to the above, but is discouraged, since it mixes the concept URI with a format suffix that is meaningful only for the description, not the concept. HTH Daniel Is this documented on-wiki? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
[Wikidata-l] Meta header for asserting that a web page is about a Wikidata subject
Suppose I publish a web page about a notable person, building or other entity; and that the subject has a Wikidata entry. What's the best meta header, to assert that the page is about the same subject as the Wikidata entry? I'm thinking of something like: link rel=foo href=https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q42; or meta name=DC.bar content=https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q42; but what values of foo or bar? Given the likely ubiquity of Wikidata in the near future, should we mint: link rel=wikidata or a more generic: link rel=datasource ? Are there any such headers already in the wild? Should Wikipedia articles and pages on sister projects include such headers? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Meta header for asserting that a web page is about a Wikidata subject
On 26 February 2014 18:45, Joonas Suominen joonas.suomi...@wikimedia.fi wrote: How about using RDFa and foaf:primaryTopic like in this example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RDFa#XHTML.2BRDFa_1.0_example So: link rel=foaf:primaryTopic href=https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q42; That's certainly seems to be a viable option, thank you. I wonder what are the advantages and disadvantages of that method, over some other @rel value? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Meta header for asserting that a web page is about a Wikidata subject
On 26 February 2014 18:50, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote: Why would you put metadata in the head rather than in the body? Visible metadata is preferable to invisible metadata. I'm not ruling out visible metadata in the body; but I'm interested to know what options are available for metaheaders in the document head, for instance for cases where changing the body content is not an option; or where the desire is to provide information to parsers which only retrieve the head, or only do so initially. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Meta header for asserting that a web page is about a Wikidata subject
On 26 February 2014 19:09, Dan Brickley dan...@danbri.org wrote: I'd recommend using the new schema.org 'sameAs', .e.g. in rdfa lite, link href=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckingham_Palace; property=http://schema.org/sameAs; / Thank you. IIRC, property is not a valid attribute in HTML 4.01, so that option's not available on some sites (though would be in Wikimedia sites such as Wikipedia) -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Meta header for asserting that a web page is about a Wikidata subject
On 26 February 2014 13:20, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: What's the best meta header, to assert that the page is about the same subject as the Wikidata entry? It additionally occurs to me that if a web page has a meta header (or indeed on-page visible metadata) asserting that the topic of the page is the same as the subject of a Wikidata entry; and the Wikidata page lists that page as the, or an, official page of or about the subject, then we have round-trip verification, similar to the rel-me attribute in microformats. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #94
It could be automatically posted to a blog, after being published on Meta. This would aid syndication, not least through RSS, and thus Planet Wikipedia. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk On Jan 25, 2014 4:01 PM, Sven Manguard svenmangu...@gmail.com wrote: The content is now and likely always will be *first* publushed on Meta. I personally think it would have been better to have published it on Wikidata, but it is a year too late for a change in venue now. Moving from a wiki page, which everyone can build/edit, to a blog, which few people could build/edit, seems like a downgrade in this case. Sven On Jan 25, 2014 10:55 AM, John Lewis johnflewi...@gmail.com wrote: The point of posting here is purely to inform people who don't check MetaWiki or aren't subscribed to the talk page notifications. John On Saturday, 25 January 2014, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Because that's precisely what blogs were invented for. Mailing lists are for discussions and announcements. Updates like this one are more comfortable to read in an RSS reader. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore 2014/1/25 Sven Manguard svenmangu...@gmail.com Why? I don't see a benefit to that. Sven On Jan 25, 2014 10:38 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Hi Lydia, These updates are a lot like a blog. Can it be a real blog? WordPress should be fairly easy to set up :) -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore 2014/1/25 Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de Hey folks :) Here's what's been going on around Wikidata this week: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Status_updates/2014_01_24 Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Product Manager for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l -- ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] [Wikitech-l] Italian Wikipedia complements search results with Wikidata based functionality
On 2 December 2013 17:49, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: The Italian Wikipedia is the first project where people who use search will find results added from Wikidata. This is great; and now on pl.WP too. What about a big button, in the relevant host language, saying Start a Wikipedia article on this subject (with a smaller how to link alongside)? The edit window could be pre-populated. (I believe the German-language community have also been discussing this idea) -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Embedding voice samples in Wikidata
On 14 November 2013 14:45, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: This sounds REALLY interesting given that they are forty second snippets of sound, it may well be too short for them to be copyrightable. They are intended to hear what a person sounds like. If I am right on this, it may be that we can collect such snippets from everywhere. They are copyrightable. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Embedding voice samples in Wikidata
On 14 November 2013 17:49, Klein,Max kle...@oclc.org wrote:
Really brilliant idea.
Thank you.
Do you know what template and lua modules you are going to use?
They're being added to articles using {{Listen}} - sometimes, as an
embedded module of various infoboxes. No Lua involved.
Is it worth making a special template connect these and track
their multilingual usage?
l'm not sure what you have in mind here.
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[Wikidata-l] 404 links in notification email
The links in the forwarded email are 404. The diff for the recent change is actually: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q594curid=873diff=81001648oldid=81001613 I've seen this in several such mails in the last few days. -- Forwarded message -- From: MediaWiki Mail w...@wikimedia.org Date: 23 October 2013 18:37 Subject: Wikidata page Q594 has been changed by Snipre To: XXX Dear Pigsonthewing, The Wikidata page Q594 has been changed on 23 October 2013 by Snipre, see http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q594 for the current revision. See http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q594diff=nextoldid=79436893 to view this change. See http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q594diff=0oldid=79436893 for all changes since your last visit. Editor's summary: /* wbremoveclaims-remove:1| */[[Property:P243]]: 166687972 Contact the editor: mail: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Snipre wiki: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Snipre There will be no other notifications in case of further activity unless you visit this page. You could also reset the notification flags for all your watched pages on your watchlist. Your friendly Wikidata notification system -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] 404 links in notification email
On 23 October 2013 20:13, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: The links in the forwarded email are 404. The diff for the recent change is actually: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q594curid=873diff=81001648oldid=81001613 I've seen this in several such mails in the last few days. Works for me What works for you? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Pushing Wikidata to the next level
On 1 October 2013 15:30, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: From now on I will be taking over product ownership of Wikidata as its product manager. I'm very pleased for you.; congratulations! -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Counting sitelinks of subclasses.
What about alcohol-free beer? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk On Sep 24, 2013 3:49 PM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure if I udnerstood it well, but this could be a counterexample: Beer (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q44) is a subclass of Alcoholic beverage (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q154) Beer: 142 links Alcoholic beverage: 73 links Aubrey On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Klein,Max kle...@oclc.org wrote: Hello All, It struck me that one interesting way to see if subclasses are useful was to test this hypothesis. Let QID_a and QID_b be two Wikidata items. Conjecture: if QID_b is subclass of QID_a, then count_stelinks(QID_b) = count_sitelinks(QID_a). Has anyone investigated this problem, or can think of an efficient way to test it? Or can tell me why it ought not to be true? Maximilian Klein Wikipedian in Residence, OCLC +17074787023 ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata-l Digest, Vol 14, Issue 9
Please, no. , if, say, a Japanese reader lands on a page on the Hungarian Wikipedia, they need to see a link in Japanese. The Hungarian name for their language may mean nothing to them. On Jan 10, 2013 2:19 PM, Nicholas Michael Bashour nicholasbash...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way to make the names of languages appear in the language of the wiki on which they are displayed? For example, the language links now are in whatever that language is called in that specific language, but in the future, would it be possible, say, on the English Wikipedia to have all language links say the name of the language in English, and on the Hungarian page they would all be in Hungarian, etc? -- Nicholas Michael Bashour President *|* Wikimedia District of Columbia http://www.wikimediadc.org/ PO Box 9822 *| *Washington, DC 20016 **+32 0488 43 65 89 *|* http://goog_1373167767/+1 (202) 630 - 6248*|* @NMichaelBashour http://goog_1373167767/*http://www.twitter.com/nmichaelbashour **|*nicholas.bash...@wikimediadc.org 2013/1/10 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Hoi, Expanding to the full name of a language eh, do I speak Dutch, Niederlandisch or Nederlands ? And when I speak all those languages, how do I get all the different names for the language that I recognise as my mother tongue ? Thanks, Gerard On 10 January 2013 13:06, carol.br...@ec.europa.eu wrote: Maybe you could incorporate a link to the International codes for languages and expand the language code to the full name? Carol -- Carol Bream Team Co-ordinator Library Applications, Thesaurus and Réseaubib European Commission Central Library ec.europa.eu/libraries -- The personal data contained in this document are dealt with in compliance with Regulation (EC) No 45/2001 ofthe European Parliament and of the Council of 18 December 2000 on the protection of individuals with regard to the processing of personal data by the Community institutions and bodies and on the free movement of such data. For more information, see http://europa.eu/geninfo/legal_notices_en.htm#personaldata -Original Message- From: wikidata-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: wikidata-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of wikidata-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 1:00 PM To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Wikidata-l Digest, Vol 14, Issue 9 Send Wikidata-l mailing list submissions to wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikidata-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikidata-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Wikidata-l digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Order of language links (Jane Darnell) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 13:02:58 +0100 From: Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com To: Discussion list for the Wikidata project. wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Order of language links Message-ID: cafvca-fbsstup_aahfjv4d5g9tjrd5us_rsyukvrwitq7yj...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I think the order of languages is only important for articles with lots of interwiki links, but for the vast majority of articles there will be less than 5 or so and it doesn't matter. I often click on article interwikis for languages I don't know and can't read (like Japanese). I do this for several reasons, the most prevalent being that I want to see 1) How many links to that page are there in that language? 2) How many items (and which items are these) that are in the articles category in that language? I tend to only do this for the larger Wikipedia projects, where I do this regularly as a trick to track down articles in foreign languages that are good candidates to translate into English (the fathers/sons/siblings of painters). Jane 2013/1/8 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com On 08/01/13 22:31, LD 100 wrote: I would preferred if this could also be changed by each users individually in the settings (maybe the settings could be set globally) Although preferences are evil, I see the point for customizing this. Having ar: in the top if I have no idea of that language is useless, I would prefer to sort first those languages I could understand, perhaps with a separator from those I definetely don't know (others might want to completely hide those).
Re: [Wikidata-l] DBpedia usage in the bbc
On 3 July 2012 19:19, Tom Morris tfmor...@gmail.com wrote: A few notes on the BBC's use of DBpedia which Dan thought might be of interest to this list: It's great to see real world use cases to inform the development priorities of Wikidata. Amen to that. === some problems we've found when using dbpedia === 1. it's not really intended for use for data extraction. The semantics of extraction depend on the infobox data and this isn't always applied correctly. So http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel_controversies share the same main infobox meaning dbpedia sees them both as tv channels This is partly (mostly) a social problem which Wikidata will need to solve at the community level, rather than through technical means. Indeed; and if we can better explain these issues to the community we might be better successful in persuading the blockers that such matters are important. Of course, there will always be some Luddites who see Wikipedia as a prose encyclopedia rather than the database of encyclopedic content which it really is ;-) -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] RDFa, Microdata and Microformats
By counting instances of the templates emitting microformats. For
example, on en.WP, {{Coord}} alone emits 757,299 'geo' (coordinates)
microformats [1]; {{Infobox settlement}} emits 273,300 hCard (place)
microformats [2] - that's over a million, alone. {{Infobox person}}
emits 105,623 hCard (biography) microformats [3]; {{Taxobox}} emits
197,363 species microformats [4], and there are hundreds more
templates emitting smaller, but not inconsequential, numbers of
microformats of the above and other types [5].
A further, vast, number of hCalendar (event) microformats are emitted,
but without the required date metadata, because a long-requested bot
task\ [6] remains unfulfilled. For example, {{Infobox album}} emits
110,712 hCalendar microformats - as well as another 110,712 complete
hAudio microformats [7].
[1]
http://toolserver.org/~jarry/templatecount/index.php?lang=ennamespace=10name=Coord
[2]
http://toolserver.org/~jarry/templatecount/index.php?lang=ennamespace=10name=Infobox+settlement
[3]
http://toolserver.org/~jarry/templatecount/index.php?lang=ennamespace=10name=Infobox_person
[4]
http://toolserver.org/~jarry/templatecount/index.php?lang=ennamespace=10name=taxobox
[5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Templates_generating_microformats
[6]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/SmackBot_XV
[7]
http://toolserver.org/~jarry/templatecount/index.php?lang=ennamespace=10name=Infobox+album
On 9 April 2012 20:52, Dario Taraborelli dtarabore...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Andy,
chiming in late in this thread, can you give me some pointers on how you
estimate this figure?
Thanks
Dario
On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:32 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
Yes (I was on my mobile so couldn't conveniently post a link, when I
sent my last email; apologies.
en-WP already emits over a million microformats.
On 3 April 2012 13:22, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote:
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:51 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
wrote:
I'm the (for want of a better word) project lead for Microformats on
en-Wikipedia.
How can I help?
Hi Andy,
Is it this project:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Microformats ?
Cheers
Lydia
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Re: [Wikidata-l] RDFa, Microdata and Microformats
I'm the (for want of a better word) project lead for Microformats on en-Wikipedia. How can I help? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk On Apr 2, 2012 5:21 PM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 6:40 AM, James HK jamesin.hongkon...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Denny, I know everyone is still trying to organize this project but nevertheless we wanted to have some clarification about how WikiData will proceed in terms of representation of data embedded in wiki pages. Several descriptor frameworks are available [0] and MediaWiki have seen some discussions about it before [1], [2] but since this project is about semantic data it would be nice to have directional guidance about how WikiData will proceed. [0] http://manu.sporny.org/2011/uber-comparison-rdfa-md-uf/ [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/HTML5_DOM_with_microdata [2] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.wikitext/512 Cheers, mwjames This is of interest for the second phase of the project. So as Ivan said it indeed does still have some time. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Eisenacher Straße 2 10777 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
