Re: [Wikidata-l] Sitelinks to Redirects (was: Re: Users do understand Wikidata less than before)

2014-10-16 Thread P. Blissenbach
I agree. While redirects may be useful in the context of normal wiki pages and help pages, they are counterproductive otherwise and must not be used. Can we not permit / disallow redirects per-namespace via Wiki configuration? Purodha Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com writes: Hoi, I

Re: [Wikidata-l] Sitelinks to Redirects

2014-10-16 Thread P. Blissenbach
While I agree with the idea of linking between languages including links to related topics, I am a bit hesitant to use Wikidata for it now and in the suggested fashion. Rather let us try to find a more generalized approach which not only serves Wikipedias but all parties interested in finding

Re: [Wikidata-l] Sitelinks to Redirects

2014-10-16 Thread P. Blissenbach
I do not mind having huge numbers of redirects at all, but you must be aware that there are wikipedias the powers of which will stubbornly and customarily delete such redirects when you create them. So that cannot be a solutiion for all. Purodha James Heald j.he...@ucl.ac.uk writes: You

Re: [Wikidata-l] Sitelinks to Redirects

2014-10-16 Thread P. Blissenbach
to be deleted by anybody.   Jane   On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 6:09 PM, P. Blissenbach pu...@web.de wrote:I do not mind having huge numbers of redirects at all, but you must be aware that there are wikipedias the powers of which will stubbornly and customarily delete such redirects when you create them

[Wikidata-l] Language tags for labels.

2014-10-05 Thread P. Blissenbach
Hi everyone, When entering labels in WikiData, any world language should be allowed. Technical language/script/variety marking for internet ressources is currently defined in the IANA language subtag registry. Thus the above suggestion boils down to mark language selections for labels by a

Re: [Wikidata-l] Language tags for labels.

2014-10-05 Thread P. Blissenbach
for this. There is one proviso; when it becomes clear that content in a specific language is not representative of that language all the content will be removed.. Thanks,      GerardM         On 5 October 2014 15:03, P. Blissenbach pu...@web.de wrote:Hi everyone, When entering labels in WikiData, any world

Re: [Wikidata-l] extensions not on translatewiki.net

2014-09-27 Thread P. Blissenbach
Hi Amir, tere must be working exort scripts to github, since we translate e.g. etherpad lite, which is maintained on github, and there are commits from translatewiki.net, see: https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/tree/develop/src/locales Purodha Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il

Re: [Wikidata-l] policy toward using non-CC0 licensed external databases as reference

2014-09-13 Thread P. Blissenbach
Regarding purely factual data comprising a less than significant portion of a database - which is certainly true for all ISBNs in Googles database, where records are considerably largen than a single ISBN - there should be no legal problem copying them under German law, regardless of Googles

Re: [Wikidata-l] Making a Wikipedia article link to two wikidata items

2014-09-09 Thread P. Blissenbach
The language links should then go to either the composite item, or the specitic item, if only one exits for a language. What, if there are both? If the page itself is specific, choose specific one, else use the composite one. That may intrduce some foggyness because links are unequal and you

Re: [Wikidata-l] Commons Categories again (was Re: Commons Wikibase)

2014-09-06 Thread P. Blissenbach
attached to each file, each topic being a pointer to a Wikidata item. Sure, Wikidata may be used as one of the sources to help build the topics list; but the topics list will not be on Wikidata, but attached to each file, probably on the CommonsData wikibase.   -- James. On 03/09/2014 14:28, P

Re: [Wikidata-l] Commons Categories again (was Re: Commons Wikibase)

2014-09-06 Thread P. Blissenbach
to understand why I am wrong in this. Thanks,  GerardM   On 6 September 2014 10:48, P. Blissenbach pu...@web.de wrote:Hi (1) If we want to include media files not on commons, then we shall have to include data from foreign sources such as flickr or other types of repositories. We must do so without

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata just got 10 times easier to use

2014-07-02 Thread P. Blissenbach
Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org writes: I guess the new property suggester rather errs on the other side, being tricked into suggesting very frequent properties even in places that don't need them. I fund some, most notably Date of death for living people which is likely

Re: [Wikidata-l] Monolingual text and old languages

2014-06-29 Thread P. Blissenbach
Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de writes [...] the set of languages supported by wikidata is a well-defined list, controlled by the configuration of the site. It's basically the list of languages MediaWiki supports for the user interface, plus a few special ones. Adding a language

Re: [Wikidata-l] New template for Wikipedia articles about Wikidata properties

2014-06-15 Thread P. Blissenbach
Good work! It animated me to create a German Wikipedia Version [[de:Vorlage:Wikidata Eigenschaft]] at https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorlage:Wikidata_Eigenschaft Purodha Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: I have created {{Wikidata property}} [1] (example on [2]), for suitable

Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #108

2014-05-07 Thread P. Blissenbach
Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com writes: []   The plan is to ask to enable all eligible languages that have an Incubator presence for Wikidata first. What needs doing is for someone to make a list of the languages involved. Here you go - I extracted all language codes and names

Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #108

2014-05-07 Thread P. Blissenbach
supported as well (Indonesian for instance) and there are also languages in there that are not eligible. Thanks,      GerardM   On 7 May 2014 11:16, P. Blissenbach pu...@web.de wrote:Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com[gerard.meijs...@gmail.com] writes: []   The plan is to ask to enable

Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #108

2014-05-06 Thread P. Blissenbach
Scott MacLeod worlduniversityandsch...@gmail.com writes: Hi Joe, Magnus, Andrew, GerardM, Jane, Daniel and Wikidatans,  Since Language fallback is not a luxury like it is for British English, it is essential for all the smaller languages. It is what prevents it from being editable / usable

Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #108

2014-05-06 Thread P. Blissenbach
Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com writes: Hoi, There are standards that define British English et al. It makes part of the ISO codes. We do not have to invent something like  ISO 639-3eng. Indeed. There is a nice tool maintained by W3C corroborator Richard Ishida to look up current

Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #108

2014-05-06 Thread P. Blissenbach
Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi,Purodha what you say about Ethnologue is very biases, wrong and often hardly relevant. I am sorry if my contribution was biased. My main goal was to warn that there are more than 7000-odd languages, extending ISO 639-3 is time consuming, and

Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #108

2014-05-05 Thread P. Blissenbach
Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de writes: Am 05.05.2014 01:35, schrieb Joe Filceolaire: I agree with Gerard that you only edit your language label in the 'label' edit box. If the label box is showing the label in a fallback language then it should be visually different -

Re: [Wikidata-l] When the source says the information provided is dubious

2014-05-05 Thread P. Blissenbach
 David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com writes: Jane, this info is in Wikipedia. For instance see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waltzes_(Chopin)   N. 17 was attributed to Chopin (Kobylańska and others), Chomiński says that claim is spurious. And that is just one of many examples. According to

Re: [Wikidata-l] rank related changes

2014-03-12 Thread P. Blissenbach
Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de writes: Am 10.03.2014 15:53, schrieb P. Blissenbach: If you read linguist literature, you'll find no clear cut definion of lexeme across all languages (nor word for that matter), you will find that relating lexemes of different languages per

Re: [Wikidata-l] rank related changes

2014-03-10 Thread P. Blissenbach
 David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com writes: Lexemes UI/search is not clear, but it can be clarified when needed. I don't think now it is the time, maybe after getting some experience with queries. If you read linguist literature, you'll find no clear cut definion of lexeme across all languages

Re: [Wikidata-l] Automatic summaries?

2013-09-07 Thread P. Blissenbach
Sven Manguard svenmangu...@gmail.com writes: Some things to think about: How do you create a description for a battleship that saw service with several different navies or a river that runs through several different countries? How do you create a description for a country that does not exist

Re: [Wikidata-l] Exporting RDF from Wikidata?

2013-08-20 Thread P. Blissenbach
Von: Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org This is not currently planned. One interesting starting point could be to identify the Wikidata properties that express same as. For example, many properties link to other data collections by giving IDs (which often correspond to URIs, only

Re: [Wikidata-l] Which API is to get wikidata.org content in real-time

2013-03-05 Thread P. Blissenbach
Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote XXwiki or XXXwiki will always refer to the XX or XXX language Wikipedia using standard ISO 639-1 or 639-2 codes; there are a couple of exceptions, such as simplewiki, but anything with two or three characters should be reliable.Replace ISO 639-2