[Wikimedia-l] Language Engineering bug triage session for RTL language bugs - Aug 28th 2013, Wednesday 1700 UTC/1000PDT

2013-08-23 Thread Runa Bhattacharjee
Hello, The Wikimedia Language Engineering team will be hosting a bug triage session on Wednesday, August 28th 2013 at 17:00 UTC (10:00 PDT) for some of the bugs that exist in languages written from Right-to-Left (RTL). During this 1 hour session we will be using the etherpad linked below to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Questions for the Board post-Wikimania

2013-08-23 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
phoebe ayers, 17/08/2013 17:49: P.s.: Generic questions to the board on this list are usually ignored/missed, unless [sometimes] when they are in reply to something posted on behalf of the board; in theory I guess the place for such public questions would be

[Wikimedia-l] Internet.org and Wikipedia Zero ?

2013-08-23 Thread Leinonen Teemu
Hi, Have you noticed the new internet.org initiative by Facebook, Samsung, Nokia, Qualcomm, Ericsson and MediaTek? Internet.org is a global partnership between technology leaders, nonprofits, local communities and experts who are working together to bring the internet to the two thirds of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia

2013-08-23 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Using a rather simple pair like Afrikaans - Dutch or a heavily researched one like English - Spanish would be giving us a wrong impression of how this will scale. We should at least add a few random pairs like Yoruba - Gujarati or Kazakh - Lombard. Most of our 67,000 language pairs that we will

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Internet.org and Wikipedia Zero ?

2013-08-23 Thread Emmanuel Engelhart
I'm maybe too pessimistic, but I would be really surprised if this project, at any time, really helps to provide an access (neutral) to the Internet. More probable: They will try to give a free/cheap access to a set of their online services and so one do the same like AOL or MSN have tried to do

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Internet.org and Wikipedia Zero ?

2013-08-23 Thread Kul Wadhwa
Emmanuel, I have my concerns as well so we're watching how things unfold for now. Perhaps to add to Teemu's question (If I could be so bold) how would internet.org need to evolve to make it worth our time and effort to be involved? --Kul On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 1:49 AM, Emmanuel Engelhart

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Internet.org and Wikipedia Zero ?

2013-08-23 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, All we need to do is what we already do: make our content available for free. When we are really in their face that we bring neutral information to everyone, everywhere how and why will they deny us? Thanks, GerardM On 23 August 2013 10:59, Kul Wadhwa kwad...@wikimedia.org wrote:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Internet.org and Wikipedia Zero ?

2013-08-23 Thread Jens Best
I would suggest to keep distance to this wannabe-NGO which more or less only exists to serve the interests of commercial players which mostly do * not* stand for a free and open web. internet.org is nothing what will serve the ideas and ideals of an internet as it is represented also by

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Internet.org and Wikipedia Zero ?

2013-08-23 Thread David Gerard
On 23 August 2013 10:28, Jens Best jens.b...@wikimedia.de wrote: I would suggest to keep distance to this wannabe-NGO which more or less only exists to serve the interests of commercial players which mostly do * not* stand for a free and open web. internet.org is nothing what will serve the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Internet.org and Wikipedia Zero ?

2013-08-23 Thread Emmanuel Engelhart
Le 23/08/2013 10:59, Kul Wadhwa a écrit : I have my concerns as well so we're watching how things unfold for now. Perhaps to add to Teemu's question (If I could be so bold) how would internet.org need to evolve to make it worth our time and effort to be involved? If what I fear becomes real,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Internet.org and Wikipedia Zero ?

2013-08-23 Thread Jens Best
Nothing good comes with people like Mark Zuckerberg or Peter Thiel, they don't share our vision of a *really* free and open internet. So, actually, Emmanuel, I couldn't care less which direction they gonna make their next moves. It will all be a disguise of what they really attempt and with whom

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Internet.org and Wikipedia Zero ?

2013-08-23 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, But when they provide the infrastructure that allows our content to be seen by many more people, they do us a service. In the end it is what we are about. Last thing I heard we were first of all about getting the knowledge out there. Thanks, GerardM On 23 August 2013 12:14, Jens Best

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Internet.org and Wikipedia Zero ?

2013-08-23 Thread Emilio J . Rodríguez-Posada
Looks like NSA has bought some new hard drives and needs moar data. 2013/8/23 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Hoi, But when they provide the infrastructure that allows our content to be seen by many more people, they do us a service. In the end it is what we are about. Last thing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia

2013-08-23 Thread David Cuenca
Something to take into account should be the efficiency a language pair can have. For instance, how many articles there are available, how easy is to translate articles, how many bilingual speakers there are for a given pair, and perhaps also, how much it can help to harmonize relationships

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Etherpad Lite labs instance going down in two weeks - backup time

2013-08-23 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
Thanks to Mark Holmquist for maintaining http://etherpad.wmflabs.org for the past long while. It is going down in 2 weeks, so please retrieve your text. I recommend that you: * go into your browser history * search it for etherpad.wmflabs.org * go to each of those pads and copy-and-paste the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Etherpad Lite labs instance going down in two weeks - backup time

2013-08-23 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
And just as a reminder: etherpad.wikimedia.org is not a production-level service, and therefore any data within an etherpad should be considered both public and able to disappear at any time. This is one reason I recommend that people use Etherpads for short-term defined collaboration sessions,