On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 4:12 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Many new features (e.g., the improved search backend) are deployed fairly
regularly
without fanfare or objection.
Indeed, change-aversion tends to
While I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, Todd, there were 14,681
users on English Wikipedia alone who had enabled MediaViewer using the Beta
Features preference before it became the default. That's a huge number of
people who were all using it every time they clicked on an image in the
Risker,
I'm actually not going to disagree with you in principle. I ultimately see
Media Viewer being used by a good number of users, and said as much from
the start. But I also warned that a bulldozer approach was going to cause
massive blowback, especially after the previous debacles (VE and
There's a easy, clearly accessible, one-click option for disabling
MediaViewer, Todd. Scroll to the bottom of the screen. Click disable.
Done - it automatically changes your preference.
Risker/Anne
On 11 July 2014 02:44, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote:
Risker,
I'm actually not
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:02 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
Or .. sometimes the licensing and attribution information isnt
correct
In the common case, Media Viewer provides more prominent and
appropriate attribution and license information than the File: page.
The author
Pete, I am looking more at process than outcomes.
Asaf, perhaps I was unclear in my statement, so I will try again.
1. I do not expect WMF and grantmaking committees to agree all of the time.
What I hope for is that WMF will not override a committee vote if a
committee
develops consensus against
Just a note that I am drafting a request to the Board about governance of
WMF product launches. Similar problems have happened enough times that
I think the Board needs to step in with a more active role. I am also
taking
a look at the policies around office actions as they relate to product
While we're talking about technology issues on WIkimedia-l, I'd like to say
that now that I've worked my way over a few speedbumps with mobile editing
I'm happy with the direction that mobile editing is going, so thank you
Mobile team.
Pine
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Thank you for the update, and thanks to Pediapress for the collaboration! I
always liked to have the option, but indeed never was tempted enough to
actually order something.
Good to learn that the pdf function remains, that's great too!
Lodewijk
2014-07-11 0:38 GMT+02:00 Thomas Gries
2014-07-11 10:06 GMT+02:00 Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com:
While we're talking about technology issues on WIkimedia-l, I'd like to say
that now that I've worked my way over a few speedbumps with mobile editing
I'm happy with the direction that mobile editing is going, so thank you
Mobile team.
I agree with Erik here. Media Viewer may have some bugs that need to be
fixed. But there are plenty of issues in other places too (like license
tags). They also need to improved. See this ongoing discussion. [1]
See my comment on RfC on Commons. [2]
Jee
Links:
1.
Sue,
You have gotten your logic exactly backwards here.
Of course David is right -- we should all have some humility about things
that we don't, and can't, know.
But the people who express certainty about what readers need -- the people
who assert that those needs are paramount, and trump the
+1
I've been doing wiki workshops for Amical during last couple of years and
since 6 months ago or so I ONLY train newbies with the visual editor. My
role on the workshop now is reduced to explain how extra features are done.
So kudos to the mobile team. And I know is not perfect. Is just wiki
There is now. There wasn't originally, or if there was, it didn't show up
for me. That was one of the main initial problems, and that's pretty basic
stuff. I already figured out how to get rid of it, but it took a good deal
of digging at the time to even find out that I could.
So, yes, it's good
'On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:02 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com
wrote:
Or .. sometimes the licensing and attribution information isnt
correct
In the common case, Media Viewer provides more prominent and
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Luca Martinelli
martinellil...@gmail.com wrote:
so the Book Creator will still be active, maybe under another name,
maybe with another engine, but still active?
Same name and functionality, just the Order a printed book feature
will disappear.
Erik
--
Erik
On 10/07/2014, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 10:03 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
Will WMF deactivate MediaViewer on English Wikipedia
No. Detailed explanation:
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 4:21 AM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_presidential_election,_2014
http://stats.grok.se/en/latest/Indonesian_presidential_election,_2014
The photo of Prabowo in MV has a caption of 'Prabowo wapres'
This happens to
On 11 July 2014 00:40, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
change-aversion tends to correlate pretty strongly with impact
on existing workflows and noticeable changes to user experience
and behavior.
It's interesting to read that claim in the content of my aversion to
the unexpected
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:58 AM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote:
That doesn't, however, help the concern that millions of users are pulling
up the images without immediately seeing the license requirements and
author information.
To the contrary, Media Viewer displays the license,
Hi Fae,
I was banned from the list by Austin Hair. I had contributed in my view a lot
of good and polite stuff that was reasonably reasoned, but he banned me on the
basis of a 17-word parenthetical phrase regarding arbitrator Timotheus Canens.
I said that I had read it claimed that he was
Actually, Trillium Corsage, I'd say that's a reason for banning you again.
It's a very serious allegation you're implying about a longstanding member
of our community.
Risker
On 11 July 2014 14:24, Trillium Corsage trillium2...@yandex.com wrote:
Hi Fae,
I was banned from the list by Austin
Dear friends:
We are pleased to inform you that the WMF Board of Trustees has come to a
decision about which four candidates to appoint to the FDC. It wasn't easy;
as is evident from the nominations, the caliber of the candidates was very
high. The resolution is now published in
Il 11/lug/2014 22:07 Patricio Lorente patricio.lore...@gmail.com ha
scritto:
Dear friends:
We are pleased to inform you that the WMF Board of Trustees has come to a
decision about which four candidates to appoint to the FDC. It wasn't
easy;
as is evident from the nominations, the caliber of
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Andy Mabbett
a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
It's interesting to read that claim in the content of my aversion to
the unexpected removal of the very useful 'nearby' feature from the
Android app [1].
(...)
[1] Promoted by the WMF at the time of its launch:
The current mobile site and the current Android app reflect a major step
backward in terms of attributing the authors of Wikipedia content.
In February 2012, I initiated discussions that resulted in both the mobile
site and the Android app clearly stating in the footer that the content was
I think it is very difficult to have hard 'rules'. The guidelines have
been published and are referred to in the footer of each messages sent
from this list.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines
I have added a link to these to the list info page at
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote:
The current mobile site and the current Android app reflect a major step
backward in terms of attributing the authors of Wikipedia content.
In February 2012, I initiated discussions that resulted in both the mobile
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Maryana Pinchuk mpinc...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com
wrote:
The current mobile site and the current Android app reflect a major step
backward in terms of attributing the authors of Wikipedia
To your specific points:
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Maryana Pinchuk mpinc...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
(like this one:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:History/Babe_Ruth).
Even once the reader gets there, how many clicks does it take to get to a
contributor's User Page, where they
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote:
To your specific points:
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Maryana Pinchuk mpinc...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
(like this one:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:History/Babe_Ruth).
Even once the reader gets
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Keegan Peterzell kpeterz...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com
wrote:
To your specific points:
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Maryana Pinchuk mpinc...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
(like this one:
On 11 July 2014 22:34, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
The new Android app isn't simply an upgrade of the last version, it's
a complete re-write in native code
This technical nicety is of no interest to most users, whose app was updated.
In determining the feature set, the team
On 11 July 2014 22:34, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
The new Android app isn't simply an upgrade of the last version, it's
a complete re-write in native code
This technical nicety is of no interest to most users, whose app was updated.
In determining the feature set, the team
Dear community:
Below you will find the report of activities of the month of June 2014 done
by the volunteers of Wikimedia Mexico. Please don't hesitate to get in
touch with us if you require extra information about this activities or
only to make some suggestions.
The report is also available
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 12:22 AM, Gergo Tisza gti...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:58 AM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote:
That doesn't, however, help the concern that millions of users are
pulling
up the images without immediately seeing the license requirements and
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Gergo Tisza gti...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:58 AM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote:
That doesn't, however, help the concern that millions of users are
pulling
up the images without immediately seeing the license requirements and
For almost 2 years I was put under intense harassment on English Wikipedia
by one the vilest groups that Wikipedia has seen--the EEML,[1] and one of
the accusations that was often levelled against me is that I was an agent
of the Russian government. And for 2 years the Community stood by and did
Minutes and slides from Wednesday's quarterly review of the Foundation's
Wikipedia Zero (Mobile Partnerships) team are now available at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Metrics_and_activities_meetings/Quarterly_reviews/Wikipedia_Zero/July_2014
.
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