Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revision scoring as a service launched

2015-12-01 Thread Anna Stillwell
Wo h. On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Jane Darnell wrote: > It's mentioned in the MIT Review here: > > http://www.technologyreview.com/news/544036/artificial-intelligence-aims-to-make-wikipedia-friendlier-and-better/ > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Steven

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revision scoring as a service launched

2015-12-01 Thread Mardetanha
it has been on fawiki for couple of month now and it does amazing Job. Thanks for making this On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:27 PM Jane Darnell wrote: > It's mentioned in the MIT Review here: > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revision scoring as a service launched

2015-12-01 Thread Anna Stillwell
Hold on, is this fact correct? "One motivation for the project is a significant decline in the number of people considered active contributors to the flagship English-language Wikipedia: it has fallen by 40 percent over the past eight years, to about 30,000." On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 12:23 PM,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revision scoring as a service launched

2015-12-01 Thread Pine W
Roughly, yes. March 2007: 50,996 "active" editors. October 2015: 30,482 "active" editors. Pine On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Anna Stillwell wrote: > Hold on, is this fact correct? > > "One motivation for the project is a significant decline in the number of >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Endowment Discussion

2015-12-01 Thread Risker
Heh. $100 million USD is just a little more than is raised (and spent) on an annual basis throughout all the Wiki-chapters and WMF, including grants that are separate from direct fundraising. It *might* last 5-7 years of bare-bones "keeping the lights on only" functions, but that would mean no

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Endowment Discussion

2015-12-01 Thread Mardetanha
do we have any definite number that if reach then we would not any fundraiser again in the future (I really would like to to see WMF in the position in which, it would not need yearly fundraiser to stand up and keep running ) , like 100 M mentioned in the meta page ? Mardetanha On Tue, Dec 1,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

2015-12-01 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > In the mean time with your "I do not want to be involved attitude" you are > the proverbial sailor who stays on shore. Well, me and 99. percent of the global population. Not everyone has to contribute to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner (again)

2015-12-01 Thread Erik Zachte
The ad would be slightly more palatable if it used coffee-darkbrown instead of epitaph-black for the plea you can't ignore. Erik Zachte -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of wctaiwan Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 0:44

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner (again)

2015-12-01 Thread Bohdan Melnychuk
Yeah ad is the word. We claim Wikipedia being ad-less but actually we are showing people stuff which only in deep sense is different from ads but looks exactly the same. Or, actually, in this case it looks worse. I really have a difficulty recalling a site which shows me so little content

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner (again)

2015-12-01 Thread Nathan
The reply every year is that the banners are keyed for maximum effectiveness, even if they are intrusive, in order to make the overall fundraising drive as short as possible. Fundraising has made small tweaks to various banners, but generally have not been willing to significantly reduce the

[Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner (again)

2015-12-01 Thread wctaiwan
http://i.imgur.com/SbfrTxi.png I know I'm just pissing in the wind, but this is not OK. (That's a maximized browser on an 1366x768 display.) wctaiwan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Something fun to share - Jimmy jokes about his "stare" fundraising photo

2015-12-01 Thread Leila Zia
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Gregory Varnum wrote: > Greetings, > > I have chatted with a number of folks over the years about ways to help > promote the annual fundraising appeal - but in ways that did not feel so > serious that it was out of our character to post

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Endowment Discussion

2015-12-01 Thread Pine W
As good as having an endowment might be, I would like to see substantial improvements to WMF's budget transparency and annual plan process before the fundraising for an endowment starts. Pine On Dec 1, 2015 15:25, "Risker" wrote: > Heh. $100 million USD is just a little

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner (again)

2015-12-01 Thread K. Peachey
I might have missed it, but I can't see any attribution for the image… as I doubt it will be a click through to the file page. Which style guide was used for the creation of this ad? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner (again)

2015-12-01 Thread MZMcBride
Bohdan Melnychuk wrote: >Yeah ad is the word. We claim Wikipedia being ad-less but actually we >are showing people stuff which only in deep sense is different from ads >but looks exactly the same. Or, actually, in this case it looks worse. I >really have a difficulty recalling a site which shows

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Hong Kong - Chapter Report

2015-12-01 Thread Wong Rover
Dear all, The hyperlink of Financial Statement should be this one: https://www.dropbox.com/s/r7eu1abwu6mhibm/WMHK-as-at-Nov-2015.xlsx?dl=0 2015-12-01 22:44 GMT+08:00 Venus Lui : > Dear Wikipedians, > > On behalf of Wikimedia Hong Kong, I would like to inform you all that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner (again)

2015-12-01 Thread Peter Southwood
Money is clearly more important than the people who do the work, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Bohdan Melnychuk Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 4:01 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l]

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revision scoring as a service launched

2015-12-01 Thread Steven Walling
This is really cool! Congrats to everyone who worked on this. On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 7:51 PM Dario Taraborelli < dtarabore...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > (cross-posting from wikitech-l) > > Today we published an announcement on the Wikimedia blog marking the > official launch of revision scoring as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-hub

2015-12-01 Thread Milos Rancic
Wikimedia is in the position to work with many institutions not committed to open access, free software etc. That's not the problem. The position of Wikimedia movement is in such position that it's not just about free knowledge, but about common good of the whole humanity. And (the most of)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revision scoring as a service launched

2015-12-01 Thread Jane Darnell
It's mentioned in the MIT Review here: http://www.technologyreview.com/news/544036/artificial-intelligence-aims-to-make-wikipedia-friendlier-and-better/ On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Steven Walling wrote: > This is really cool! Congrats to everyone who worked on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-hub

2015-12-01 Thread Pine W
A chronic problem for most of the movement is a shortage of human resources, both volunteer and paid. Hopefully the work of Aaron H. and company on revision scoring will help us to keep more of our good-faith newbies. I also think that the bitey-ness of some Wikimedians can be counterproductive,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-hub

2015-12-01 Thread Pine W
According to https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Zero_Template_Agreement and https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:WikiProject_Open_Access/Programmatic_import_from_PubMed_Central, the answer appears to be yes that Wikipedia Zero now includes Wikisource. (It would be good to get

Re: [Wikimedia-l] In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-hub

2015-12-01 Thread Pete Forsyth
For what it's worth, we had a panel discussion at WMF about this, with Open Access advocates and staff from WMF. Freely licensed video of the session is available on YouTube. See here for video links: http://wikistrategies.net/oa-Wikipedia-panel/ One of our panelists, John Dove, wrote a follow-up

Re: [Wikimedia-l] In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-hub

2015-12-01 Thread Andrea Zanni
I don't really mind WMF working with closed-access publishers, if that works. What I think is that we don't put the same effort indoing something with the openaccess world: all the initiatives I know are volunteer-based. Two pop up in my mind: the Signalling Open Access project, aimed to put an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-hub

2015-12-01 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Andrea Zanni wrote: > I don't really mind WMF working with closed-access publishers, if that > works. > What I think is that we don't put the same effort indoing something with > the openaccess world: all the initiatives I know are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-hub

2015-12-01 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello, I felt strongly enough about Wikipedia's relationship with open access content that I wrote about the issue. < http://bluerasberry.com/2015/10/wikipedia-open-access-and-the-wikipedia-library/ > yours, On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 4:07 AM, Pete Forsyth wrote: > For what

[Wikimedia-l] Something fun to share - Jimmy jokes about his "stare" fundraising photo

2015-12-01 Thread Gregory Varnum
Greetings, I have chatted with a number of folks over the years about ways to help promote the annual fundraising appeal - but in ways that did not feel so serious that it was out of our character to post on social media. Good news - it appears this year Jimmy has participated in a video that

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2016: Registration now open #WMCON16

2015-12-01 Thread Daniela Gentner
Dear Wikimedians, We are delighted to inform you that the registration for the Wikimedia Conference 2016 [1], which will be held in Berlin from Friday, April 22, through Sunday, April 24, is now open! Following Christian’s invitation and Nicole’s email regarding the Program Design Process [2],

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Endowment Discussion

2015-12-01 Thread phoebe ayers
On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Lisa Gruwell wrote: > Hi all- > > For several years, the Wikimedia movement has been having discussions > about whether and when to begin > building an endowment. I put an essay up on meta

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

2015-12-01 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, This thread is called "quality". There are ways to include multiple truisms. Wikidata is the data project of the Wikimedia Foundation, it is a wiki, so when you have issues, deal with it. I prefer to quote what John Ruskin had to say: "Quality is never an accident. It is always the result of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

2015-12-01 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Article by Mark Graham in Slate, Nov. 30, 2015: Why Does Google Say Jerusalem Is the Capital of Israel? It has to do with the fact that the Web is now optimized for machines, not people.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

2015-12-01 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > So identify an issue and it can be dealt with. > The fact an issue *can* be dealt with does not mean that it *will* be dealt with. For example, in the post that opened this discussion a little over a week

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

2015-12-01 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I do work on quality issues. I blog about them. I work towards implementing solutions. I have fixed quite a few errors in Wikidata and I do not rack up as many edits as I could because of it. In the mean time with your "I do not want to be involved attitude" you are the proverbial sailor