Re: [Wikimedia-l] Clarifications on 2014 Form 990

Thanks Patricio for the detailed answer which fully eliminated my concerns. One thing that bothers me all the time is the very late answer from the board. I'm pretty sure so many comments about Sue wouldn't be said if you sent this response earlier. We've been through this that these statements

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Form 990 for FY 2014-2015 now on-wiki

Thanks Pete. I also think that Risker and I have different expectations for financial disclosure and transparency. My view is influenced by my experiences with Washington Stare government as well as my experience with WMF grantmaking, where transparency is prioritized over privacy. Among other

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Clarifications on 2014 Form 990

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 6:50 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > Patricio Lorente wrote: >>We’ve heard your questions and want to address them broadly, as well as >>provide more information about the breakdown of Sue’s compensation during >>this time. > > Thank you for this e-mail. > >>One

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Clarifications on 2014 Form 990

Patricio Lorente wrote: >We’ve heard your questions and want to address them broadly, as well as >provide more information about the breakdown of Sue’s compensation during >this time. Thank you for this e-mail. >One point of confusion is for the period this compensation covers. This is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Clarifications on 2014 Form 990

Agree this is much clearer than the prior answer. Thank you On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 6:37 PM, Liam Wyatt wrote: > Thank you for this comprehensive breakdown and effort to provide detailed > responses to the various questions that have been asked here, and > elsewhere. >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Form 990 for FY 2014-2015 now on-wiki

Risker, perhaps you missed this part of Patricio's message; I'm pretty sure this is what Pine was referring to: > In re-reading Jan-Bart’s original email [1] where he stated that Sue was staying on as an advisor, it isn’t explicit that this was a paid position. We should have been more clear on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Form 990 for FY 2014-2015 now on-wiki

I think Patricio would be surprised that you have interpreted his email that way, Pine. There's nothing in his email that says anything about proactive disclosure of the salaries of individual employees or contractors. It would probably be appropriate to extend your thanks to Sue, who has agreed

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Form 990 for FY 2014-2015 now on-wiki

Thank you for pointing that out, Risker. The emails indeed cross paths and I did not see it. The point remains: the standard is proactive disclosure, not minimum and delayed disclosure. The latter happened, and it is not ok. It is a relief that Sue was not getting $300k per year as an advisor,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Clarifications on 2014 Form 990

Thank you for this comprehensive breakdown and effort to provide detailed responses to the various questions that have been asked here, and elsewhere. No-doubt there will be follow-up questions or requests for clarification, but I just wanted to say thanks to the team of people who evidently put

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Form 990 for FY 2014-2015 now on-wiki

I consider the systematic omission of proactive disclosure of this expenditure of at least $300,000 in donor funds to be financial misconduct and a breach of trust. It's profoundly contrary to the values that this organization claims to uphold. Pine On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Brion Vibber

[Wikimedia-l] Clarifications on 2014 Form 990

Hi all, We’ve heard your questions and want to address them broadly, as well as provide more information about the breakdown of Sue’s compensation during this time. We understand the confusion related to this recent 990, given the period it covers, and the aggregate amounts it reports. Below

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Form 990 for FY 2014-2015 now on-wiki

On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Pine W wrote: > I've been following this discussion with some interest. Can someone point > us to where Sue's compensation, after she left the Executive Director role, > was budgeted in the WMF annual plans? That money cannot have come out of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harassment and blaming the victim

Many volunteer organisations have mandatory training for volunteers, so that in itself is not a bad idea. But what about the cross-project differences that Risker brings up? And more importantly, how could such training help when faced with the type of harassment that is referenced 99% of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harassment and blaming the victim

I fully agree with Risker. I feel this discussion is only (mainly) looking at enwp. Harassment probably exist on all versions but the seriously of the issue look very differently. Being the most active user and sysop on a smaller version (svwp) I do not recognize the issues being discussed.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harassment and blaming the victim

Hmmm. I find this recommendation concerning. There *might* be some validity on large projects with hundreds of administrators, but there are a lot of projects with only a few admins, and they were "selected" because they were willing to do the grunt work of deletions, protections, and blocks.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harassment and blaming the victim

Hi Sydney, I think that if individual communities create a consensus to mandate training, or if arbitration committees issue that mandate on particular wikis, that's completely fine and good. I'm hesitant to say that WMF should wield a stick to mandate this kind of training for administrators on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harassment and blaming the victim

My suggestion is to come up with a general type training that can work for all administrators and functionaries since all have the freedom and permission to do all types of work on WMF projects. And that training should be mandatory. Then people who are focusing on a particular type of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 72 hours with Rodin editathon in Mexico City

Very exciting and inspiring! Thanks for sharing Ivan! On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 12:57 AM, Hasive N. Chowdhury < nhas...@wikimedia.org.bd> wrote: > Great to know Ivan. All the best for Wikimedia Mexico. > > > Hasive > WMBD > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 5:43 AM, Ivan Martínez wrote:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harassment and blaming the victim

Hi Sydney, Thanks for that link. I think that for now I would suggest avoiding making the training mandatory because we won't know how successful it is until after we've used it for awhile. After the training has been tested and refined based on feedback, and if the consensus is that the training

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Form 990 for FY 2014-2015 now on-wiki

Hi Greg, Just to expand a little on what John is saying here, I find it a little odd that the information to separate out the cost of actually making trademark applications, and the cost of legal consultants, has not been separated out. I confess I'm not that familiar with the rules of Form 990,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Form 990 for FY 2014-2015 now on-wiki

On 5 June 2016 at 02:28, Liam Wyatt wrote: > Not to put too fine a point on it... But are you saying that Sue remained > the most highly paid contractor to the WMF, and at a significantly higher > rate than when she was the actual ED, until FIVE DAYS ago? That is, well >