[Wikimedia-l] Re: Affiliations Committee's standing on hubs and its role in the process

2022-07-17 Thread Ilario Valdelli
The justification of " body of volunteers from across the Movement who have joined the Committee from various projects and who have a wide range of experience across opportunities and challenges when Wikimedia groups gather and formalize" indicates that *any body of volunteers* can "pilot". At

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Affiliations Committee's standing on hubs and its role in the process

2022-07-17 Thread Butch Bustria
*"Hubs, in their structure, can be seen as a variety of affiliates who are gathering together to create something new. "* The definition, scope, metes and bounds of *hubs* will be determined by an independent body, such as MCDC and codified by a document such as an MC that is agreed upon

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Affiliations Committee's standing on hubs and its role in the process

2022-07-17 Thread Gnangarra
Hi Affcom has a conflict in this situation because hubs are not affiliates nor are they being piloted as hubs have functioned as organisations in their own right for many years. The word 'pilot' is disrespectful to work that these hubs have been doing for that time. I acknowledge Affcom can

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Affiliations Committee's standing on hubs and its role in the process

2022-07-17 Thread Wojciech Pędzich
Dear all, AffCom’s response here is to a specific Hub pilot project, not necessarily the long-term future of Hubs, and hence the initial statement published on July 11. AffCom is comprised of a body of volunteers from across the Movement who have joined the Committee from various projects

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Affiliations Committee's standing on hubs and its role in the process

2022-07-12 Thread Gnangarra
As hubs are not replacing the relationship between affiliates and affcom, hubs purpose is to serve its community across multiple countries. I can see the value in Affcom sharing some of its experiences but I caution against the building of deeper power structures that widen the gap between

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Affiliations Committee's standing on hubs and its role in the process

2022-07-12 Thread Ilario Valdelli
That's a good option but I suppose that the same Affcom structure must be re-considered probably enlarging the number of members and diversifying more in terms of representatives of the different stakeholders (including maybe more people from the affiliates and chapters?). This discussion should

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Affiliations Committee's standing on hubs and its role in the process

2022-07-12 Thread Philip Kopetzky
Hi Wojciech, thanks for this statement, it will definitely be helpful to have AffCom's insights into the current affiliates network when talking about hubs. While approval by the WMF BoT is one option, wouldn't that require a hub to be a formal organisation? Otherwise the BoT would be involved in