Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-09 Thread John Vandenberg
How much do we expect to be paying to Wordpress each year for this service? John Vandenberg. sent from Galaxy Note On Sep 6, 2013 8:23 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Leslie Carr lc...@wikimedia.org wrote: Currently the blog is in a partially

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-08 Thread rupert THURNER
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Matthew Roth mr...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 12:53 PM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.comwrote: What should not be missed out in the discussion is the fact that blog post according to current guidelines should be written on the wiki.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-08 Thread David Gerard
On 8 September 2013 13:06, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Matthew Roth mr...@wikimedia.org wrote: Drafting on wiki is more of a good process than an ideal way to publish the content, in my opinion. why? Because turning MediaWiki from a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-08 Thread Andrew Gray
Once we have Flow working well, then a Media-Wiki based public blog with comments might actually be workable (and it'd be nice to have comments mesh seamlessly with WM accounts). However, that's still a year or two off - I don't think it's any reason not to transfer the blog for now, assuming we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
David Gerard, 06/09/2013 15:22: On 6 September 2013 14:19, MZMcBride wrote: This seems to focus on blog editors, but not blog visitors. If I visit wordpress.com, I see that my Web browser deflects Google Analytics, KissMetrics, Quantcast, and WordPress Stats. If I visit wordpress.org, I see

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-05 Thread MZMcBride
Hi. The recent draft privacy policy mentions that the Wikimedia blog (https://blog.wikimedia.org) will soon be hosted by WordPress.com. Was this discussed anywhere? If so, where? What is the proposed URL structure of a blog hosted by WordPress.com? I think there's a reasonable expectation that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-05 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: This is a very good point - we must try to protect logs of visitors to the WMF blog from the inevitably prying eyes of the National Security Agency! And only by self-hosting it will this be effectively accomplished! This

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-05 Thread Nathan
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 2:51 PM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: Personally i think this is a bad idea, especially with respect to all the nsa discussions. If wmf is not able to host it might be hosted by one of the chapters, or wikinews might accept a new article type blog, what

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-05 Thread Leslie Carr
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote: As I understand the blog is currently a self-hosted instance of Wordpress and the idea is to move the hosting to somewhere else. (So this is not MediaWiki vs. Wordpress, but self-hosting vs. not self-hosting) Exactly!

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-05 Thread Laura Hale
On Thursday, September 5, 2013, rupert THURNER wrote: Personally i think this is a bad idea, especially with respect to all the nsa discussions. If wmf is not able to host it might be hosted by one of the chapters, or wikinews might accept a new article type blog, what you think? Cool idea,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-05 Thread Andrew Gray
Mediawiki is indeed the most versatile platform, but that just means it's okay at most things. It doesn't mean it's better than other platforms explicitly designed for a particular job ;-) I'd prefer self-hosting on general principle, but if our operations people say it's better and more stable

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-05 Thread Lodewijk
This was definitely mentioned at Wikimania. What I understood is that it will be hosted externally for performance and reliability reasons, but that the rest should remain the same. Anyway, I'm not an expert here, just what I understood from Matthew Roth friends Lodewijk 2013/9/5 Richard

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-05 Thread rupert THURNER
Personally i think this is a bad idea, especially with respect to all the nsa discussions. If wmf is not able to host it might be hosted by one of the chapters, or wikinews might accept a new article type blog, what you think? Rupert Am 05.09.2013 19:34 schrieb Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-05 Thread Gregory Varnum
I think this makes 100% sense from an operations perspective. Anytime you can outsource a lower priority web service - fantastic. However, from a community advocacy perspective - I am less convinced. I would be curious if anyone from that team could chime in as well. The security argument

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-05 Thread David Gerard
On 5 September 2013 20:03, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: Mediawiki is indeed the most versatile platform, but that just means it's okay at most things. It doesn't mean it's better than other platforms explicitly designed for a particular job ;-) Wordpress is a ridiculously

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-05 Thread Nathan
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Dan Collins en.wp.s...@gmail.com wrote: At least OTRS and mailman belong inside our security bubble of control, where the only people with access are ops and they can be properly secured. The security risk of those applications potentially introducing and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-05 Thread shi zhao
*.Wordpress.com blocked in China. Chinese wikipedia: http://zh.wikipedia.org/ My blog: http://shizhao.org twitter: https://twitter.com/shizhao [[zh:User:Shizhao]] 2013/9/6 Matthew Roth mr...@wikimedia.org: Hi all, I was going to socialize some of the transitions for the Wikimedia blog in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-05 Thread Greg Grossmeier
quote name=Tyler Romeo date=2013-09-05 time=23:17:46 -0400 On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:57 PM, shi zhao shiz...@gmail.com wrote: *.Wordpress.com blocked in China. Welp, there goes that plan. Being pedantic: that doesn't mean that all wordpress.com hosted blogs through different domains

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-05 Thread Matthew Roth
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:54 PM, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org wrote: I can't think of one off the top of my head that is in that category (they don't usually advertise that they're wordpress.com-hosted) to test/suggest. Here are a few: http://wordpress.org/showcase Greg -- |

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-05 Thread Tyler Romeo
Also, it'd be a bit difficult to set up, because I doubt the China firewall is stupid enough to allow simple CNAME redirects, so we'd have to dynamically interact with whatever Wordpress.com's DNS environment is. -- Tyler Romeo On Sep 6, 2013 1:11 AM, Matthew Roth mr...@wikimedia.org wrote: On