Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-08-11 Thread James Salsman
Scott, It is perfectly legitimate to be "anti-racist," but races are completely artificial constructs. Racial conflict was interposed during the "tea party" astroturfing in response to the Occupy movements: https://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/hyoogt/is_this_accurate/fze7t5c/ Do

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-08-06 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Scott, thank you for raising this really important issue, and I whole-heartedly agree. Since I heard of Ibram X. Kendi's argument to not just be not racist but rather be actively anti-racist, I thought a lot about it (I have a long essay trying to sort my thoughts on that, but I am not sure my

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-08-06 Thread C. Scott Ananian
If "anti-classist" is your way of writing "empowering the less-powerful", then sure. As the rest of my email indicates, I'm choosing to focus on language and language groups, since that's the most direct relation to the output and input technologies of Abstract Wikimedia. Obviously there is no

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-08-06 Thread Nick Wilson (Quiddity)
On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 2:01 PM Samuel Klein wrote: > We used to have a roughly weighted list of major world languages by > (spoken, written; primary, secondary) and how well covered they were by wp > (articles, contributors). Is there something like that still? > I think you might be referring

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-08-05 Thread Samuel Klein
I applaud this idea. Preferably a language family with a large community of practice, 'minority' in the sense of coverage and support by modern tools and scaffolding, not in the sense of limited use. We used to have a roughly weighted list of major world languages by (spoken, written; primary,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-08-05 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Sorry I'm coming to this discussion a bit late, but I'd like to underline a slightly different aspect of the concern that Phoebe raised: > It concerns me that, at least in the high-level project proposals I've > seen (I haven't been tracking this closely, and haven't read the academic > papers) I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-20 Thread Victoria Coleman
Denny, This is extraordinarily good news! I am thrilled that the Foundation and the Community has taken it on board. I think it is a truly seminal, pivotal project for promulgating free knowledge to all corners of humanity. I just could not be happier to know that you will be shepherding the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-20 Thread James Salsman
Anyone object to using loglan as an interlingua? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loglan On Saturday, July 4, 2020, phoebe ayers wrote: > Thanks Denny! I appreciate this, and your thoughtfulness as always. > > Thanks for starting an explicit discussion. I think our field (meaning, > computer

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, HAPPY NEWS :) We will learn a lot, experience many challenges and it does have the potential to provide more of the information that is available to us. Particularly in languages other than English the impact can be huge. At a Wikidata conference in Berlin we had someone from PanLex present

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-05 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Thank you Gnangarra! And Butch, and Lodewijk, and Brion, and Erik, and Joāo, and Christophe, and Isaac, and Galder, and Daniel, and SJ, and Phoebe, and everyone else, thank you all for the congratulations, and for your interest! I am also very excited, and looking forward to it - and thanks in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-04 Thread phoebe ayers
Thanks Denny! I appreciate this, and your thoughtfulness as always. Thanks for starting an explicit discussion. I think our field (meaning, computer science & internet projects broadly) often assumes that these questions will just arise in context, or get solved as we go, but they rarely do. So

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-03 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Thank you Phoebe for the congratulations, and thank you for the considerations, and I agree with them. On wiki, Denis Barthel and Ryan Kaldari already raised a number of the concerns - although not all - that you are raising here.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-03 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Thank you SJ, thank you all, for your very welcoming words, and your congratulations! Regarding Wikispore, yes, this is one of the first conversations that we will have - where the preparatory discussions should happen. I am very much in favor of Wikispore for that, as it is literally meant for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-03 Thread phoebe ayers
Congratulations to everyone, this is exciting. It is also very exciting that we have an almost-unprecedented opportunity to build a new project that is fully informed by both lessons from own past projects, as well as from the rapidly developing field of ethics in computer science and AI. From

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-02 Thread Gnangarra
sounds like a wonderful project that will help connect cultures and languages in a helpful way for the users, look forward to seeing and helping its development On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 at 09:26, Butch Bustria wrote: > Congratulations on this new opportunity! > > Once it rolls out to us content

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-02 Thread Butch Bustria
Congratulations on this new opportunity! Once it rolls out to us content contributors, we will be glad to be a part of it. Kind regards, Butch Bustria On Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 12:39 AM Denny Vrandečić wrote: > Katherine, thank you for the warm welcome and your kind words! > > I am very happy

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-02 Thread effe iets anders
___________ > > > From: Wikimedia-l on behalf > of > > > Isaac Olatunde > > > Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 7:01 PM > > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-02 Thread Erik Moeller
This is wonderful news. :) Thank you for the foresight to support this important initiative, and huge thanks to Denny for continuing to tirelessly explore new ways to make knowledge truly universally accessible! This project has the potential to become a new foundation for learning about our

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-02 Thread João Alexandre Peschanski
Denny, this is very exciting! Congratulations to this wonderful opportunity. We should definitely organize a Wikidata Lab on the new project and how we can engage with it. (We might actually have to change the name of the labs, damn!) Whenever you think is the right time for this event and if you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-02 Thread Christophe Henner
a-l on behalf of > > Isaac Olatunde > > Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 7:01 PM > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new > > Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia > > > > Wow! This is a great new

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-02 Thread Daniel Mietchen via Wikimedia-l
Congratulations > > Galder > > From: Wikimedia-l on behalf of > Isaac Olatunde > Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 7:01 PM > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new > Wik

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-02 Thread Samuel Klein
Best news all year. Thank you for moving swiftly on this :) It has been a fine thing too, to see WikiLambda experiments on Wikispore. https://wikispore.wmflabs.org I hope this may Herald a new wave of new and complementary projects. There are yet so many types of knowledge that have not found a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-02 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Excited to see even how this mind-blowing idea comes to live! Congratulations Galder From: Wikimedia-l on behalf of Isaac Olatunde Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 7:01 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-02 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Wow! This is a great news. Thanks for sharing Katherine. With best wishes Isaac. On Thu, 2 Jul 2020, 17:39 Denny Vrandečić, wrote: > Katherine, thank you for the warm welcome and your kind words! > > I am very happy to be given the opportunity to start this new project, and > deeply honored

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-02 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Katherine, thank you for the warm welcome and your kind words! I am very happy to be given the opportunity to start this new project, and deeply honored by the trust and confidence of the Board and the Foundation. Thanks to the many who have listened to me talking about this project in the last

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-02 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi, This is really an exciting news. This ambitious project will fill up the knowledge gaps in different languages for sure and will definitely play a vital role in preserving endangered and near-extinct languages in future. Best wishes, Bodhisattwa On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, 21:54 Brion Vibber

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-02 Thread Brion Vibber
I'm extremely excited about this project! Not only will this be directly useful on its own (and a fascinating project in its own right!), but it will help our volunteer editors to ramp up good base material to work with on the "prose" Wikipedias we already know and love. The idea is really to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-02 Thread Tito Dutta
Excellent news. Congratulations and glad to see this project being approved. On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, 9:34 PM Katherine Maher wrote: > (A translatable version of this announcement can be found on Meta [1]) > > Hi all, > > It is my honor to introduce Abstract Wikipedia [1], a new project that has >