Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's non-disclosure agreement

2013-03-07 Thread Dan Rosenthal
I can't find a copy of mine (probably in storage somewhere) but I would assume mine was identical to Keegan's since we came in at the same time and did the same job. -Dan Dan Rosenthal On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 5:22

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Vote for the most exciting research work about Wikipedia

2013-03-07 Thread Guillaume Goursat
Hello, thank you Carol Ann, the five finalist works are very interesting. I correct the link to choose the best paper : http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikimedia_France_Research_Award/nominated_papers Guillaume 2013/3/6 Carol Ann carolann.oh...@wikimedia.fr Hi all, Wikimédia France

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Big Fat Brussels Gathering

2013-03-07 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Dimi, the people at Brel are quite flexible, so I guess you could book the hostel beds for those that want to stay there (in one/a few rooms) if enough in advance. Probably you could arrange that people pay themselves. I stayed there a few times now, and they are decent but not awesome (it's a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's non-disclosure agreement

2013-03-07 Thread Deryck Chan
On Mar 7, 2013 8:11 AM, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Katie Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote: On 06/03/2013 23:00, MZMcBride wrote: Out of curiosity, if you sign an NDA as a volunteer, what is the disclosure period, then? Is it indefinite?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] fiction: WMF policy of paying less than market

2013-03-07 Thread Jan-Bart de Vreede
Hi james, (renamed thread to not distract from NDA discussion) Your concerns have been noted, several times. But I do want to make sure you (and everyone else) realise that there is no FACT like the one that you mention. fact that the Foundation's policy of paying below market salary

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's non-disclosure agreement

2013-03-07 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 7 March 2013 08:11, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.com wrote: My NDA, signed 7 November 2011, is for three years. I found the copy. James Salsman: There are no terms about disparaging information or anything like that. Save it for another thread, please. The NDA I signed while

[Wikimedia-l] Info: Shabab Mustafa of WMBD joins the WCA Council

2013-03-07 Thread Fae
Dear Wikimedians, I have the pleasure of announcing that Shabab Mustafa has joined the Wikimedia Chapters Association Council. This appointment makes a total of 23 members.[1] Shabab is a founding member of the Wikimedia Bangladesh Chapter and currently serves on the Executive.[2] He is a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info: Shabab Mustafa of WMBD joins the WCA Council

2013-03-07 Thread Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive
Congrtz Shabab Mustafa.. On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Wikimedians, I have the pleasure of announcing that Shabab Mustafa has joined the Wikimedia Chapters Association Council. This appointment makes a total of 23 members.[1] Shabab is a founding member

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info: Shabab Mustafa of WMBD joins the WCA Council

2013-03-07 Thread Markus Glaser
Shabab Mustafa and WMBD, welcome on board! Am 07.03.2013 13:44, schrieb Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive: Congrtz Shabab Mustafa.. On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Wikimedians, I have the pleasure of announcing that Shabab Mustafa has joined the Wikimedia Chapters

Re: [Wikimedia-l] fiction: WMF policy of paying less than market

2013-03-07 Thread James Salsman
Jan-Bart de Vreede wrote: ... I do want to make sure you (and everyone else) realise that there is no FACT like the one that you mention. fact that the Foundation's policy of paying below market salary discriminates against potential hires with large expenses such as kids in college or a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] fiction: WMF policy of paying less than market

2013-03-07 Thread [[w:en:User:Madman]]
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:46 AM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote: Jan-Bart de Vreede wrote: Finally I find the idea of restraining people to talk about salary almost comical Would you post the text of the non-disparagement clause referred to at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Longest living hoax?

2013-03-07 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Andy Mabbett, 05/03/2013 21:08: On 5 March 2013 17:21, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: I can't see the deleted article, but I bet it was basically orphaned What were its page view stats? (I'm mobile. So can't easily check) I only checked a random month, but something like 150-200 per month

Re: [Wikimedia-l] fiction: WMF policy of paying less than market

2013-03-07 Thread Milos Rancic
While a number of my friends are employed by WMF and I heard no one to complain about salary or working conditions, it would be good to have annual report of salaries and other benefits of WMF employees compared to the siruation in the other similar and some not so similar organizations. I can

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Big Fat Brussels Gathering

2013-03-07 Thread Balázs Viczián
Hi Jan, Typically this is what pre conference events are for and quite frankly I see more possibilities in it if this would be implemented into the Milan event both in the schedule and as a thematic pre conference meeting (as the educational leaders are doing it). cheers, Balázs 2013/3/6 Jan

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Big Fat Brussels Gathering

2013-03-07 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Balázs, There seems to be only limited overlap in the interested attendees. Also, preconference would overlap with some other pre conferencees which at least for me would be bad. Also, there's only one day of pre conference (Thursday) which makes it too short and in the middle of the week

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Big Fat Brussels Gathering

2013-03-07 Thread Balázs Viczián
Such a meeting can be done over lunchtime any day or after the conference (which I guess would finish somewhere around lunch on Sunday so it can be on a weekend) or paralell to the schedule; there are plenty of options if you're interested in a solution. Cheers, Balázs 2013/3/7 Lodewijk

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Big Fat Brussels Gathering

2013-03-07 Thread Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov
Hi Lodewijk, I cannot answer the travel aid quesiton as there is no dedicated, central budget for this meeting. It's just volunteers and chapters deciding to join in, help or carry some of the cost. About signing up - I simply didn't think of it, as I know how to contact everyone who put their

Re: [Wikimedia-l] to publish an article in Wikimedia

2013-03-07 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi Shmuel, This is a list for discussions about Wikipedia. If you want to create your own article, please see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Getting_started -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.”

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Big Fat Brussels Gathering

2013-03-07 Thread Lodewijk
Nobody stops you of course to have a 'meeting over lunchtime' but I think the expectations by the organizers were set a little higher than that. Lodewijk (who has some experience with the 'success' of international Wikimedia over-lunchtime meetings) 2013/3/7 Balázs Viczián

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Big Fat Brussels Gathering

2013-03-07 Thread Christophe Henner
I agree with my dutch friend :) People going to the Wikimedia Conference are not especially overlapping with this one. Plus taking one day or two off is quite easy. Add a side meeting you need to take a week off. Lastly, having it 2 weeks before let's us formalize the report of the meeting

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Big Fat Brussels Gathering

2013-03-07 Thread Lodewijk
great :) Please note that 'we don't know yet, check back later' is also a helpful addition to the page regarding travel budget :) Best, Lodewijk 2013/3/7 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov dimitar.parvanov.dimit...@gmail.com Hi Lodewijk, I cannot answer the travel aid quesiton as there is no

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Big Fat Brussels Gathering

2013-03-07 Thread Balázs Viczián
I really don't get you, you wish to facilitate something that will affect about 20 chapters directly in the future (those situated within the EU) and you don't think it would overlap the Milan event? And no real need to talk about it there? Balazs 2013/3/7 Christophe Henner

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Big Fat Brussels Gathering

2013-03-07 Thread Christophe Henner
On 7 March 2013 17:02, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote: I really don't get you, you wish to facilitate something that will affect about 20 chapters directly in the future (those situated within the EU) and you don't think it would overlap the Milan event? And no real need to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] fiction: WMF policy of paying less than market

2013-03-07 Thread Katie Chan
No one is force to, or have a right to work for the WMF. Like any other organisation, for-profit or otherwise, an organisation determines what it can affords and wants to pay for a position. Similarly, a potential employee gets to decides whether the proposed compensation is acceptable to them

Re: [Wikimedia-l] fiction: WMF policy of paying less than market

2013-03-07 Thread Sarah Stierch
The funny thing about all of this is that it seems to be non-employees who are very concerned about these things and no employees are actually whistle blowing or commenting. I think that says something about how truly non-problematic this is. And I'm sure if employees did have some problems,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] fiction: WMF policy of paying less than market

2013-03-07 Thread Nathan
In fact, not one single non-anonymous person has ever said anything different than what Marc just posted (as far as I know). James Salsman is alone in his crusade; the people he believes he is fighting for evidently don't desire his help. My suspicion is that this all goes back to his attempt to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] to publish an article in Wikimedia

2013-03-07 Thread Matthew Bowker
Hi, Shmuel! As Wikipedia is a collaborative encyclopedia written by its readers, the subjects for our articles are generally chosen by the editing community rather than by request. There is a venue where you can request articles at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:REQ, or if you wish to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to WMF February 2013 Metrics and Activities Meeting: Thursday, March 7, 19:00 UTC

2013-03-07 Thread Praveena Maharaj
REMINDER: This meeting starts in 30 minutes. On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Praveena Maharaj pmaha...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Dear all, The next WMF metrics and activities will take place on Thursday, March 7, 2013 at 7:00 PM UTC (11 AM PST). The IRC channel is #wikimedia-office on

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Please join the community review of 4 FDC funding requests!

2013-03-07 Thread Katy Love
Greetings, Wikimedia community, It is my pleasure to share with you that the Funds Dissemination Committee has received four proposals in Round 2 of funding from entities seeking funds for their annual plans. An additional proposal was withdrawn. These four proposals from Wikimedia Czech

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 9, Issue 9 -- 04 March 2013

2013-03-07 Thread Wikipedia Signpost
Op-ed: We must do more to turn readers into editing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-03-04/Op-ed News and notes: Outing of editor causes firestorm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-03-04/News_and_notes WikiProject report: WikiProject

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to WMF February 2013 Metrics and Activities Meeting: Thursday, March 7, 19:00 UTC

2013-03-07 Thread Victor Grigas
Photos from the meeting today: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Vgrigas#Wikimedia_Foundation_Monthly_Metrics_Meeting_March_7.2C_2013 On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Praveena Maharaj pmaha...@wikimedia.orgwrote: REMINDER: This meeting starts in 30 minutes. On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:17

Re: [Wikimedia-l] fiction: WMF policy of paying less than market

2013-03-07 Thread Erwin Mulialim
Dear Jan-Bart, Hey, I think that you are the dumbest and most foolish people in this world! Since you already know that working for a nonprofit foundation or charity that absolutely should not be expecting a salary sufficient in terms of value! Because this job is having the social goals of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] fiction: WMF policy of paying less than market

2013-03-07 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Can I ask that we not call people dumb and foolish? Argue the idea, not the person. (And in this case, I think Jan-Bart agrees with you, so I'm not sure where that came from). pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Minutes from the February 1-2, 2013 Board Meeting

2013-03-07 Thread Stephen LaPorte
Hello everyone, The minutes of the WMF Board Meeting on February 1-2, 2013 have been ratified and published here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2013-02-01 The meeting's agenda included: * Housekeeping ** Amendment to the Affiliations Committee Charter ** Pledge of Personal