Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

2013-04-30 Thread rupert THURNER
Absolutely! If there would be some always available public interface to check if a user has voting right then this could be used on other votes and elections in various languages as well, a little like the German wikipedias "stimmberechtigung". This then could later on be adjusted to consider code

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed

2013-04-30 Thread Marco Chiesa
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 4:29 AM, James Forrester wrote: > > Unfortunately, some accounts are currently not unique across all our > wikis, but instead clash with other users who have the same account > name. To make sure that all of these users can use Wikimedia's wikis > in future, we will be rena

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-30 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi Erlend, I want to shortly comment on your letter, which raises legitimate concerns, in my view, and I would like to address them. On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 11:28 PM, Erlend Bjørtvedt wrote: > However, the gap between the legitimate demands of a donation-backed > funding process, and the resour

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed

2013-04-30 Thread Magnus Manske
Will the affected users be given a one-time offer to have their accounts renamed, or are they stuck forever with the "~" ones? On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 5:01 AM, James Forrester wrote: > On 29 April 2013 20:59, Fae wrote: > > Thanks James, personally I'm comforted by your prompt reply. > > Happy

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

2013-04-30 Thread Chris Tophe
2013/4/29 Mathieu Stumpf > Le 2013-04-26 20:27, Milos Rancic a écrit : > > OmegaWiki is a masterpiece from the perspective of one [computational] >> linguist. Erik made the structure so well, that it's the best starting >> point to create a contemporary multilingual dictionary. I didn't see >> an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Comments on compliance and the FDC Round 2 decisions

2013-04-30 Thread Craig Franklin
Thankyou Asaf, points 1.1 and 1.2 pretty much answered all my questions on this. If I might offer a humble suggestion though, might I suggest for the purposes of determining grant eligibility, rather than saying that it is "Confirmed" or "Not Confirmed", a third status of "Conditional Eligibility"

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

2013-04-30 Thread Ting Chen
Hello dear all, I would also like to ask everyone who has made their thoughts on the election to take part on the election committee themselves the next time. Unfortunately when I made the call for volunteer earlier this year not very many people responded. Greetings Ting Am 4/30/2013 12:5

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Comments on compliance and the FDC Round 2 decisions

2013-04-30 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Craig - this is a very good idea! best, dariusz ("pundit") On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Craig Franklin wrote: > Thankyou Asaf, points 1.1 and 1.2 pretty much answered all my questions on > this. > > If I might offer a humble suggestion though, might I suggest for the > purposes of determi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Comments on compliance and the FDC Round 2 decisions

2013-04-30 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi Asaf, a short comment on two things: On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 5:04 AM, Asaf Bartov wrote: > 1.4. It is my understanding, from reading the FDC recommendation (and > without any "inside information" -- I was not part of the deliberations), > that the FDC has reviewed the WMHK application with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-30 Thread Jan-Bart de Vreede
Hey Deryck, On Apr 29, 2013, at 10:25 PM, Deryck Chan wrote: >> >> But you say "we" … We refers to WMHK I assume, but did you do this after a >> discussion with the Grants Programme, or did you decide this on your own? > > I work for the non-profit sector, and there is not way that any >> orga

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Comments on compliance and the FDC Round 2 decisions

2013-04-30 Thread K. Peachey
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Asaf Bartov wrote: > ... > I would like to stress that this is not a minor point of slight tardiness > or some missing receipt -- this is actual mismanagement of funds (though > not necessarily mis-use of funds, and NO ONE IS SUGGESTING BAD FAITH here > -- we do no

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed

2013-04-30 Thread David Richfield
James answered this in his original email: > It will now only be possible for accounts to be renamed globally; the > RenameUser tool will no longer work on a local basis - since all accounts > must be globally unique - therefore it will be withdrawn from bureaucrats' > tool sets. It will still

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed

2013-04-30 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
David Richfield, 30/04/2013 10:50: James answered this in his original email: No, that doesn't answer (see also talk page). Nemo It will now only be possible for accounts to be renamed globally; the RenameUser tool will no longer work on a local basis - since all accounts must be globall

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed

2013-04-30 Thread Benjamin Chen
On 30 Apr, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Magnus Manske wrote: > Will the affected users be given a one-time offer to have their accounts > renamed, or are they stuck forever with the "~" ones? Rename is still possible, similar to what we have now, but just on a global level. So no, they are not stuck for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed

2013-04-30 Thread K. Peachey
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Benjamin Chen wrote: > ... > One thing to note is the technical limitation on # of edits. If account has > too many edits, he may not be able to get it renamed further. > ... It just needs to be done server side, The same way it already is. _

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-30 Thread Jan-Bart de Vreede
Hey Florence On Apr 30, 2013, at 1:12 AM, Florence Devouard wrote: > Le 4/30/13 12:04 AM, Nathan a écrit : >> >> >> It's not logical to assume that because the WMF has funds it should in >> some way equitably distribute those funds around the world. > > What happens to the idea according to w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Comments on compliance and the FDC Round 2 decisions

2013-04-30 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Just a couple personal points: Asaf Bartov, 30/04/2013 05:04: [...] 1.5. In summary, I must protest against the narrative of Deryck's letter, wherein WMHK's proposal was rejected by malevolent WMF staff with a secret anti-WMHK agenda [...] I didn't read anything like that in Deryck's letter.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

2013-04-30 Thread Itzik Edri
Ting, Risker, 1. To share thoughts and feedback about the elections, you don't must to be volunteer in the committee. 2. I indeed thought about it only when I saw the centralnotice and read the voting requirement, I may needed to raise it before. But it's still doesn't mean we need to ignore fro

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Comments on compliance and the FDC Round 2 decisions

2013-04-30 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi Federico, On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > 1.5. In summary, I must protest against the narrative of Deryck's letter, >> wherein WMHK's proposal was rejected by malevolent WMF staff with a secret >> anti-WMHK agenda [...] >> > I didn't read anything like that in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

2013-04-30 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Itzik yes, you are right. But, and this is a very big but. You organized Wikimania yourself, you know how much unseen and unthankable and unbelievable complicated and unnecessary work behind all the shiny things. The election committee is also a volunteer driven committee. It is a treme

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

2013-04-30 Thread Craig Franklin
Ting, I don't think that Itzik has said anywhere that the election committee is doing a bad job. I think he is simply saying that you shouldn't have to commit to having a meeting every week since February just to have an opinion on the topic that is taken seriously. Cheers, Craig Franklin On 3

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

2013-04-30 Thread Ting Chen
And to come back to the topic. At least in the theory, if someone is blocked in a project, than he has a serious problem with that community. And the reason that his block is not lifted should be a serious one. And if someone has a serious problem with more than one community, than it is quest

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed

2013-04-30 Thread Dan Rosenthal
Global renames will be done by Stewards then, yes? -Dan Dan Rosenthal On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:17 PM, K. Peachey wrote: > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Benjamin Chen > wrote: > > ... > > One thing to note is the technical limitation on # of edits. If account > has too many edits, he may

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed

2013-04-30 Thread Andrew Gray
On 30 April 2013 03:29, James Forrester wrote: > Unfortunately, some accounts are currently not unique across all our > wikis, but instead clash with other users who have the same account > name. To make sure that all of these users can use Wikimedia's wikis > in future, we will be renaming a num

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-30 Thread Charles Andres
In Milan we discuss about Chapters peer review as a tools that the WMF could use in parallel if FDC assessment. But in light of the discussion about who should or not apply to the FDC, it seems that chapters peer review should be consider by chapter willing to apply to the FDC as a preliminary

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Fundraising 2013] Wikimedia France stepping back from payment processing

2013-04-30 Thread Fae
On 29 April 2013 21:28, Christophe Henner wrote: ... > In face of that situation, Wikimedia France board has asked WMF to > stop being a payment processor in 2013 Hi Christophe, thank you for giving this difficult decision some suitable context, and for doing so openly and promptly. Could someon

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

2013-04-30 Thread Itzik Edri
Ting, you completely twisted things. I didn't criticize Election Committee, or blamed them. Especially I didn't said they doing a bad job. I didn't even mentioned them. I just raised the issue and said clearly that it is something that has been around from the previous elections and wondered whethe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-30 Thread Deryck Chan
On 30 April 2013 09:48, Jan-Bart de Vreede wrote: > > > Yes I read your reply, but you keep stating "we want", that is not that > same as "together with the grant giver we agreed"… I cannot overstate the > importance of the difference between the two… > > People don't instantly agree on everythin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-30 Thread Patricio Lorente
2013/4/30 Charles Andres : > In Milan we discuss about Chapters peer review as a tools that the WMF could > use in parallel if FDC assessment. > > But in light of the discussion about who should or not apply to the FDC, it > seems that chapters peer review should be consider by chapter willing to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

2013-04-30 Thread David Gerard
On 30 April 2013 10:47, Ting Chen wrote: > At least in the theory, if someone is blocked in a project, than he has a > serious problem with that community. And the reason that his block is not > lifted should be a serious one. And if someone has a serious problem with > more than one community, t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-30 Thread Deryck Chan
On 30 April 2013 10:22, Jan-Bart de Vreede wrote: > Hey Florence > > On Apr 30, 2013, at 1:12 AM, Florence Devouard wrote: > > > Le 4/30/13 12:04 AM, Nathan a écrit : > >> > >> > >> It's not logical to assume that because the WMF has funds it should in > >> some way equitably distribute those fu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

2013-04-30 Thread James Alexander
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 3:08 AM, David Gerard wrote: > (Remember that we've had an entire project, > Wikiversity, pretty much taken over by disgruntled Wikipedia trolls.) Very side note: I'm not sure if you're talking in the past sense or not here but I did want to stick up for Wikiversity a b

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

2013-04-30 Thread Fae
On 30 April 2013 10:47, Ting Chen wrote: > And to come back to the topic. > > At least in the theory, if someone is blocked in a project, than he has a > serious problem with that community. And the reason that his block is not > lifted should be a serious one. And if someone has a serious problem

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Fundraising 2013] Wikimedia France stepping back from payment processing

2013-04-30 Thread Dan Rosenthal
Christophe, About this "reconnaissance d'utilite publique" or "supercharity" concept; is there a link to an analysis (preferable) or even just the text of the law/provision/regulation? Even one in French only would be OK, I'm just curious to know more about how it works in practice. -Dan Dan Ros

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Comments on compliance and the FDC Round 2 decisions

2013-04-30 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2013/4/30 Dariusz Jemielniak : > Many members of the community (as it was confirmed in the discussions on > Milan conference) are e.g. uncertain about part-time employment > possibilities through GAC, as well as about professionalization efforts > being funded through GAC scheme (both possible to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Comments on compliance and the FDC Round 2 decisions

2013-04-30 Thread Craig Franklin
I wonder if it will be accepted to apply to GAC for temporary position > for the person responsible for preparation of FDC application :-) That's probably not as silly an idea as it sounds - having a local person on the ground with relevant expertise who can assist the chapter not just in prepari

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-30 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 30.04.2013 01:12, Florence Devouard wrote: Le 4/30/13 12:04 AM, Nathan a écrit : In the past years, we have seen several times organizers of Wikimania plain disappear after the event. Burn-out. I do not think it is a good outcome. For no-one. And I do not think it is a good idea to slap a c

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-30 Thread Richard Symonds
I think, perhaps, that the reform of the Wikimania bidding process could use a new thread! Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

2013-04-30 Thread Michael Peel
On 28 Apr 2013, at 21:25, Andrew Gray wrote: > I'm ambivalent about whether it's appropriate to have staff members > (those who don't independently qualify as "community members") voting > or not, but I think in principle Itzik has a very good point - either > *both* WMF and Chapter staff should

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

2013-04-30 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 30.04.2013 12:14, James Alexander wrote: Very side note: I'm not sure if you're talking in the past sense or not here but I did want to stick up for Wikiversity a bit here in the more presente tense. I don't think I've checked in the past couple weeks but I've trolled the recent changes the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Comments on compliance and the FDC Round 2 decisions

2013-04-30 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Dariusz Jemielniak, 30/04/2013 11:34: 1.5. In summary, I must protest against the narrative of Deryck's letter, wherein WMHK's proposal was rejected by malevolent WMF staff with a secret anti-WMHK agenda [...] I didn't read anything like that in Deryck's letter. well, I think that this par

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania

2013-04-30 Thread Katie Chan
On 30/04/2013 11:49, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: My personal experience after being an active program committee member on the 2010 Wikimania Organizing Committee was that my activity there (and I believe in the end of the day we did a good job - for example, we managed to accept all submissions

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania

2013-04-30 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 30.04.2013 13:23, Katie Chan wrote: On 30/04/2013 11:49, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: My personal experience after being an active program committee member on the 2010 Wikimania Organizing Committee was that my activity there (and I believe in the end of the day we did a good job - for example

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Comments on compliance and the FDC Round 2 decisions

2013-04-30 Thread Osmar Valdebenito
I think it is important to remember what is the main premise behind the FDC: give resources to established chapter in some sort of "long term" capacity. We are dealing with proposals of over 100k to more than 4m. I've heard several times about how hard is to apply for the FDC, how terrible it is...

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Fundraising 2013] Wikimedia France stepping back from payment processing

2013-04-30 Thread Charles Andres
AFAIK , WMDE and WMCH are the last ones. I do not remember an announce about WMUK for the next fundraising. but I don't understand what's the link with the FDC. In general I would encourage to avoid to speak about paiement processing out of its specific context, that's mean fundraising process

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Comments on compliance and the FDC Round 2 decisions

2013-04-30 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Moreover, it's well known that the FDC decisions are based also on > "context" i.e. private information not part of the proposals or discussions > thereof. > It's normal for people outside WMF not to understand them fully, and after >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-30 Thread Jeromy-Yu Maximilian Chan
I think Jan-Bart did point out an interesting point As I heard in Milan Long time staffing, must go trough FDC And we exactly know our weakness on transparency and management (I already tried hard to push my rest of team when I was on the chapter board But what do you expect if they have day time o

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-30 Thread Osmar Valdebenito
Probably a smoother transition would be much more appropiate. A part-time or temporary employee that can take care of the belated reports and paperwork that you, as volunteers, can't do and probably establish some basis for a future growth. WM-AR, WM-RS and WM-IL have professionalized in the latest

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-30 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi Jeromy-Yu, thank you for sharing this personal note. On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Jeromy-Yu Maximilian Chan < jerry.tschan...@gmail.com> wrote: > As we aware of problem, we are run out of way to improve, it is bottleneck > we need to tackle. So the FDC decision suggests chapter like us s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

2013-04-30 Thread Thehelpfulone
On 29 April 2013 21:01, Ziko van Dijk wrote: > With 2 seats selected by the chapters and in future maybe the thorgs, and 3 > by the editing community, and 1 by the staff, more than half of the board > members would be not directly coopted. > Many other varieties are possible, of course. The staf

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

2013-04-30 Thread Michael Peel
On 30 Apr 2013, at 14:30, Thehelpfulone wrote: > On 29 April 2013 21:01, Ziko van Dijk wrote: > > With 2 seats selected by the chapters and in future maybe the thorgs, and 3 > by the editing community, and 1 by the staff, more than half of the board > members would be not directly coopted. >

[Wikimedia-l] censorship in the german mailing list

2013-04-30 Thread Thomas Sieben
Dear Readers, the german mailing mist is suffering from censorship by one of the list of administrators: Kurt Jansson, Daniel Baur, Arne Klempert. I could not send several Mails to the list. This is very irritating because of the present discussion about corruption in the german chapter. Re

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Glossary vs. Glossaries

2013-04-30 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hi, On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Guillaume Paumier wrote: > > * Google custom search: Waldir recently used Google Custom Search to > created a search tool to find technical information across many pages > and sites where information is currently fragmented: > http://lists.wikimedia.org/piperm

Re: [Wikimedia-l] censorship in the german mailing list

2013-04-30 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Complaining about blocks on mailing lists is rarely useful for anything but taking something out of your chest, I suggest you complain on Meta if you really need... oh wait, you're indef-blocked for harassment, too bad. Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed

2013-04-30 Thread James Forrester
On 30 April 2013 01:01, Marco Chiesa wrote: > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 4:29 AM, James Forrester > wrote: > >> Unfortunately, some accounts are currently not unique across all our >> wikis, but instead clash with other users who have the same account >> name. To make sure that all of these users can

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

2013-04-30 Thread Michael Snow
On 4/30/2013 3:54 AM, Michael Peel wrote: On 28 Apr 2013, at 21:25, Andrew Gray wrote: I'm ambivalent about whether it's appropriate to have staff members (those who don't independently qualify as "community members") voting or not, but I think in principle Itzik has a very good point - either

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed

2013-04-30 Thread James Forrester
On 30 April 2013 02:56, Dan Rosenthal wrote: > Global renames will be done by Stewards then, yes? Yes. J. -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, VisualEditor Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester ___ Wikimedia-l mailing l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Fundraising 2013] Wikimedia France stepping back from payment processing

2013-04-30 Thread Christophe Henner
Hey Dan, Sure : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconnaissance_d'utilit%C3%A9_publique and http://vosdroits.service-public.fr/associations/F1131.xhtml In France all associations are, a priori, charities. The french fiscal services can withdraw that status for many reasons. One of them is if they bel

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement partners

2013-04-30 Thread phoebe ayers
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Bishakha Datta wrote: > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:33 AM, phoebe ayers > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Here is a question that came up during today's US GLAM consortium > meeting: > > what's the current status of the 'movement partners' affiliation? > > > > > http:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement partners

2013-04-30 Thread Gregory Varnum
Phoebe, As Bishakha indicated, this is still actively being discussed amongst AffCom and WMF folks. Most of what's being discussed is based on on-wiki comments - but the actual conversations are happening via email (AffCom mailing list) and face-to-face conversations. My understanding is this f

Re: [Wikimedia-l] censorship in the german mailing list

2013-04-30 Thread Thomas Sieben
Dear Readers, dear Nemo, in my last emails, which where objects to censorship, I did not complain about my indef-blockage by right wing student-groups in germany (f.e. Frank Schulenburg), which was taken as harassment. But I did, do and will complain in public about the blockage of people,

[Wikimedia-l] GLAM newsletter in the WMF monthly report (was: Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 109, Issue 34)

2013-04-30 Thread Tilman Bayer
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Romaine Wiki wrote: > Hello Tilman, > > Thanks for composing the report and sending it. > > In section 9.2.6 I saw the Wikipedia Signpost. Perhaps it is also possible > and interesting to add another newsletter that describes a mayor field of > interest for Wikim

[Wikimedia-l] CC nears last call for comments on Creative Commons 4.0

2013-04-30 Thread Luis Villa
Hi, all- As mentioned in a variety of places (mostly, it looks like, on Commons Village Pump) Creative Commons is revising their licenses to produce a new 4.0 version. The changes include a variety of things relevant to Commons and other WM projects, most importantly attribution, but also improved

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-30 Thread Balázs Viczián
Is there any (un)official policy/strong advice/anything against direct hiring from WMF/FDC/whatever grants? Balazs 2013/4/30 Dariusz Jemielniak > hi Jeromy-Yu, > > thank you for sharing this personal note. > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Jeromy-Yu Maximilian Chan < > jerry.tschan...@gmail

[Wikimedia-l] Human-assisted machine translation (it was: "The case for supporting open source machine translation")

2013-04-30 Thread David Cuenca
I have been giving some thought to Erik's proposal and while already fascinating, I would like to put it in different terms. Instead of asking "Could open source MT be such a strategic investment?", I would ask "is there a way to have Wikimedia's technology and people involved collaborate with MT s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-30 Thread Florence Devouard
Le 4/30/13 12:52 PM, Richard Symonds a écrit : I think, perhaps, that the reform of the Wikimania bidding process could use a new thread! Yaroslav is not telling us about his experience on the bidding process, but about his experience about (not) feeling loved and appreciated for his effort a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-30 Thread Florence Devouard
Le 4/30/13 11:22 AM, Jan-Bart de Vreede a écrit : Hey Florence On Apr 30, 2013, at 1:12 AM, Florence Devouard wrote: Le 4/30/13 12:04 AM, Nathan a écrit : It's not logical to assume that because the WMF has funds it should in some way equitably distribute those funds around the world. Wh

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-30 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Florence Devouard wrote: > Yaroslav is not telling us about his experience on the bidding process, > but about his experience about (not) feeling loved and appreciated for his > effort and involvement. > > And boy... is that sad :( > > Flo > Agreed, and I'll say i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-30 Thread MZMcBride
Florence Devouard wrote: >I was thinking of the numerous (quite successful) associations in >France, which are simply made of entrepreneurs wishing to do things >together (from networking, to training, to visits, conferences etc.). >Most of those associations have only one staff member, a long-term

[Wikimedia-l] The one-employee secretariat model

2013-04-30 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 4:21 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > Florence Devouard wrote: > >I was thinking of the numerous (quite successful) associations in > >France, which are simply made of entrepreneurs wishing to do things > >together (from networking, to training, to visits, conferences etc.). > >Most

[Wikimedia-l] Looking for Wikimedia-l list administrator-moderators

2013-04-30 Thread J Alexandr Ledbury-Romanov
We are looking for new administrator-moderators for Wikimedia-l. Ryan Lomonaco left the team a while ago, and I plan on stepping down as soon as the new team is on board. The main role of an administrator-moderator is to approve or deny posts that get held up in the moderation queue (post made by