Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Quick Hello from New List Subscriber

2014-06-04 Thread Comet styles
"I know most on this list use their real names. " < not everyone, most of us believe MZMcBride is not even a dude!! :O ... oh and welcome banned user \\// meh, you are not a wikipedian unless you have been banned or blocked atleast once.. On 6/5/14, MZMcBride wrote: > Trillium Corsage wrote: >>

[Wikimedia-l] Importance of educating the media contributors

2014-06-04 Thread Jeevan Jose
In many recent discussions in Wikimedia Commons, I noticed that many of our media contributors are not well aware of the terms of licenses they grant. Main confusions are in three areas: 1. Attribution: Many people think we can demand attribution near the work used in off wiki cases. But according

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Quick Hello from New List Subscriber

2014-06-04 Thread MZMcBride
Trillium Corsage wrote: >Just to say hello and introduce myself to the list. I'm a research >professional seven years experience hoping to break into the legal field. >I'm not 25 or anything like that though. I've done other stuff in my >life, and I am middle-aged. How do I come here to the list? I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine's anniversary

2014-06-04 Thread Oona Castro
Congrats! On 2 June 2014 15:50, Amy Vossbrinck wrote: > Very nice work!! > > Take good care, Amy > > > On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Cristian Consonni > > wrote: > > > > Today, our organization celebrates anniversary - 5 years from the date > > > of creation. > > > > > > Exactly 5 years

Re: [Wikimedia-l] VisualEditor on English Wikipedia

2014-06-04 Thread ENWP Pine
GerardM, Yes, if Asaf or someone else wanted to have a low-frequency discussion about VE on Hebrew Wikipedia or some other wiki on this list I think that would be ok too. IMO this is a high-traffic general-purpose list, but Asaf is right that taking discussions to a more specific place is appre

Re: [Wikimedia-l] VisualEditor on English Wikipedia

2014-06-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There should not be separate standards for Commons and any Wikipedia is surely what you mean... Thanks, GerardM On 4 June 2014 22:17, ENWP Pine wrote: > Asaf, I agree in some ways. ENWP's email list is a backwater though, and > since the discussion that got me thinking about this issu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] VisualEditor on English Wikipedia

2014-06-04 Thread ENWP Pine
Asaf, I agree in some ways. ENWP's email list is a backwater though, and since the discussion that got me thinking about this issue started on this list it made sense to me to keep it on this list. Also, other wikis' experiences with VE are relevant. My personal experience with VE has most recen

Re: [Wikimedia-l] VisualEditor on English Wikipedia

2014-06-04 Thread Asaf Bartov
(META: I have to wonder why Wikimedia-l was chosen as the venue for this conversation. Visual Editor is deployed and working in quite a few of our projects, including very active ones and "difficult" ones such as the right-to-left Hebrew Wikipedia; this discussion, then, is very much about the Eng

Re: [Wikimedia-l] VisualEditor on English Wikipedia

2014-06-04 Thread ENWP Pine
I think having a two part RfC with the first part discussing the minimum conditions the community would like VE to meet before having a discussion about more widely enabling VE in the second portion of the RfC makes sense. This raises the possibility that as VE becomes more and more functional t

[Wikimedia-l] A Quick Hello from New List Subscriber

2014-06-04 Thread Trillium Corsage
Hi Wikimedia-l, Just to say hello and introduce myself to the list. I'm a research professional seven years experience hoping to break into the legal field. I'm not 25 or anything like that though. I've done other stuff in my life, and I am middle-aged. How do I come here to the list? I was a W

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quarterly reviews of high priority WMF initiatives

2014-06-04 Thread Steven Walling
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: > Is there any thought of making metrics updates more machine-readable, > exposing data/metrics/timelines? Right now the excellent data is > flattened into slides, and then further flattened into a single pdf. > If anyone is seeking more data

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-04 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
(note any comments here are entirely my own personal opinion) On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Mike Godwin wrote: > The ECJ said the > right "to be forgotten" applies when the data aggregated "appear to be > inadequate, irrelevant or no longer relevant, or excessive in relation > to the purpose

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [MED] Most visited articles of a topic

2014-06-04 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Àlex Hinojo, 04/06/2014 16:50: Oh thanks! Didn't know it was moved to wmflabs and improved so well! Yes, that's thanks to the renewed efforts by User:Henrik (stats.grok.se): https://bitbucket.org/magnusmanske/glamtools/issue/3/treeviews-unchained Nemo __

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-04 Thread Mike Godwin
Chris writes: > I think there's a philosophical issue about "privacy" here. As far as I can > see the ECJ interprets "privacy" as "the right to enjoy a private life", and > sees any party holding a significant amount of data about a private > individual without good reason as a potential infringem

[Wikimedia-l] Office hours reminder: FDC

2014-06-04 Thread Maggie Dennis
Hi, guys. I just wanted to remind you that the FDC staff are hosting an office hour in about 15 minutes. For information on how to attend, please see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours I hope to see you there! Maggie -- Maggie Dennis Senior Community Advocate Wikimedia Foundation,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quarterly reviews of high priority WMF initiatives

2014-06-04 Thread Samuel Klein
+1. These are an amazing resource for understanding what's happening. Thanks to Tilman and the teams who put these together. Is there any thought of making metrics updates more machine-readable, exposing data/metrics/timelines? Right now the excellent data is flattened into slides, and then furt

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-04 Thread Chris Keating
> > Whatever "the right to be forgotten" may turn out to be, it's not > about publication of previously unpublished information. Ergo, it's > not about "invasion of privacy," broadly speaking. The opinion makes > clear that one can publish true, accurate, already-published > information and neverth

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-04 Thread Mike Godwin
??? writes: >On 02/06/2014 21:14, Mike Godwin wrote: >> >> Google has a clear purpose too, and it was no defense. Plus, there is >> a public-interest argument in favor of eschewing the erasure of true, >> accurate public data that happens to be old. >> > >There is nothing in the judgement about er

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [MED] Most visited articles of a topic

2014-06-04 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello Alex, WikiProject Medicine on English discusses this issue in various ways. Consider posting this message on that project's talk page. The most prominent international project is with the Translation Task Force, in which there is a coordinated international effort to get 80 medical articles

[Wikimedia-l] Why the quiet announcement of Wikimania 2015?

2014-06-04 Thread billinghurst
Just wondering whether there is going to be a bigger announcement of Wikimania 2015 going to be in Mexico City, than its appearance in the WM2014 programme https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programme If the decision is announced on [[m:Wikimania 2015]] by the green text, I think that is a v

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why the quiet announcement of Wikimania 2015?

2014-06-04 Thread billinghurst
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 00:56:07 +1000, billinghurst wrote: > Just wondering whether there is going to be a bigger announcement of > Wikimania 2015 going to be in Mexico City, than its appearance in the > WM2014 programme > https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programme > > If the decision is ann

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [MED] Most visited articles of a topic

2014-06-04 Thread Àlex Hinojo
Oh thanks! Didn't know it was moved to wmflabs and improved so well! 2014-06-04 16:06 GMT+02:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) : > Àlex Hinojo, 04/06/2014 15:35: > > Do you know if there is a tool for that? >> >> - tracking which are the most visited articles in a category tree on a >> wiki >> > > http

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] [PRESS RELEASE] Airtel Offers Nigerians Free Access to Wikipedia

2014-06-04 Thread David Cuenca
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Nathan wrote: > How would an affiliate have the ability to sign any agreements for the > delivery of WMF content? The agreements cover access to WMF-owned websites. > I can see local affiliates being helpful with translation, advice and > communication support etc.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [MED] Most visited articles of a topic

2014-06-04 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Àlex Hinojo, 04/06/2014 15:35: Do you know if there is a tool for that? - tracking which are the most visited articles in a category tree on a wiki https://tools.wmflabs.org/glamtools/treeviews/ https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikiviewstats/ (if you're lucky and they share a title prefix; can work

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] [PRESS RELEASE] Airtel Offers Nigerians Free Access to Wikipedia

2014-06-04 Thread Nathan
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 9:54 AM, David Cuenca wrote: > A question to Yana et al.: > > Is there any reason for the WMF to promote/sign Zero agreements instead of > the local chapters/user groups? > > I mean, if that ability was subsidized to the chapters we could have a > different strategy dependi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] [PRESS RELEASE] Airtel Offers Nigerians Free Access to Wikipedia

2014-06-04 Thread David Cuenca
A question to Yana et al.: Is there any reason for the WMF to promote/sign Zero agreements instead of the local chapters/user groups? I mean, if that ability was subsidized to the chapters we could have a different strategy depending on the country, because: - in some places the benefits of promo

[Wikimedia-l] [MED] Most visited articles of a topic

2014-06-04 Thread Àlex Hinojo
Hi, Amical is just drafting its very first collaboration with a Hospital, in order to improve MED articles on ca.wiki The doctors comittée asked us, in order to optimize efforts, if we knew which are the most visited articles medicine related, so they can start putting their efforts there Do you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] [PRESS RELEASE] Airtel Offers Nigerians Free Access to Wikipedia

2014-06-04 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 06/04/2014 02:36 AM, rupert THURNER wrote: > @labs > Could you please provide a reference why labs can be misused? The problem with Zero-rating (all of) labs is that there is no constraint on the actual nature of the content that is provided there. While we /do/ have rules about what is and is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quarterly reviews of high priority WMF initiatives

2014-06-04 Thread Bence Damokos
Thanks for sharing, Tilman! (These are really useful pages, and nice to see them continue to be maintained). Best regards, Bence On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Tilman Bayer wrote: > Minutes and slides from last week's quarterly review of the > Foundation's Mobile Contributions team are now a

[Wikimedia-l] Please spread the word: Tools only on Tool Labs from July 1

2014-06-04 Thread Silke Meyer
Hi all, please spread the word: Tools only on Tool Labs from July 1 About one year ago, we, Wikimedia Deutschland e. V., announced June 30th as the deadline of the Toolserver migration (Roadmap at [1]). This deadline is approaching. The Toolserver will stop working on June 30th. What will happen