So on the wine project, the issue is we would have to target wines bottled
before 1900, just to be quite sure there's no copyright issue on the wine
bottles labels.
Having said that, you could imagine the price we'd have to pay to run that
project.
On Twitter, last night, another wikimedian had
In my opinion the work of the FDC cannot be limited to compare three years,
to evaluate three budgets and to evaluate three impacts.
I would say that it's *out of context*.
I have had this feeling when I have read that the FDC consider that Amical
is the best example to follow.
How to follow?
In regards to the original problem brought up by Gerard, FDC is more
or less on its maximum I think.
Its members never did such (or similar) job(s) before FDC (the closest
would be credit checks, but that is like and IEG grant review - it is
pretty far from such a comprehensive grant -
Hi Balazs,
I'm quite puzzled and wondering what are you basing your opinion of the FDC
members' zero initial experience. I can speak only for myself, but I was an
ED of an NGO for 6 years (and successfully applied for grants and ran a
~50k annual budget), and I've been on the funds dissemination
~50k means 50.000 Euros or 500.000 Euros?
The value is important because cutting 20% or 30% in biggest budget means
to justify that to the stakeholders.
The model that FDC is bringing to the chapters is more complex than
previously because the chapters have to find external funds.
This means
Hey,
Few months ago, during Wikimania in London, we held the first meeting of
all (or at least aim to be..) the chapters' Chairpersons together with
Lila.
We will be happy to see this forum continue to work together, allowing the
Chairpersons to share ideas and discuses about their role and
I mean 50 thousand, which positions the organization I ran at the level of
really small chapters in our movement.
I do not understand your point about stakeholders at all. Are you assuming
that the FDC is acting as a WMF proxy? We are an independent,
community-ran body advising to the Board
Interestingly I've just received a fundraising email localised to the UK
which doesn't offer any opportunity to give by direct debit. This is the
main form of regular giving in the UK, and the alternative that is offered
(regular gifts via credit card) is generally deprecated as it gives the
donor
Two other people are doing this right now also! Is this a coincidence?
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2056561545/tonythetiger-wikipedian-for-the-world-tttwftw
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1990377981/creative-commons-camera
yours,
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:09 AM, Christophe
2014-11-25 12:05 GMT+01:00 Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu:
Despite the little to zero initial experience of its members,
all-volunteer setup and the ever changing circumstances (global goals,
focus points, etc.) and how in general awful it sounds if you say it
out lout that an
It is a coincidence^^ Thx for the links.
Pyb
Le 2014-11-25 14:14, Lane Rasberry a écrit :
Two other people are doing this right now also! Is this a coincidence?
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2056561545/tonythetiger-wikipedian-for-the-world-tttwftw
[1]
yes, that I understood, I just believe that your statement that that
members of the FDC initially had zero or minimal experience needed for
bodies of this sort is basically ungrounded :)
best,
dj
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi,
initial was
2014-11-25 13:49 GMT+01:00 Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com:
Basically if WMF is asking to find external funds to reduce the risk, the
consequence is that WMF is also declaring to would be a stakeholder with
less importance and less impact in the decision of the strategy of the
chapter.
Dariusz, as you said: it is not on your public FDC profile.
How should I know all of this about you if it is completely missing from there?
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/Members/Dariusz_Jemielniak
Vince
2014-11-25 15:13 GMT, Dariusz Jemielniak
Balazs,
if you read the link you've just provided, you'd probably notice e.g. the
following sentence: He also has served on the Funds Dissemination
Committee of the English Teaching program (aimed at improving language
skills of English teachers in rural areas of Poland) coordinated by
Fundacja
We started an English version of the campaign [1]
--
Pyb
Links:
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[1] http://www.kisskissbankbank.com/en/projects/wikicheese
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I don't think it is very helpful to the discussions that have to be had to
turn this into a conversation about personal qualifications... Only rarely
I have seen such a discussion to bear fruit.
The people on the Committee is only a small factor in the whole puzzle -
the instructions they get,
Excellently put Lodewijk.
In an attempt to answer your question:
I would like to ask for clarification the expectations of raising funds
externally.
In previous years, as has been mentioned earlier in this thread, it has
been emphasised that the 'money raised in a country' should be considered
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote:
Excellently put Lodewijk.
In an attempt to answer your question:
I would like to ask for clarification the expectations of raising funds
externally.
In previous years, as has been mentioned earlier in this thread, it
As Nathan I see no contradiction.
I would feel embarrassed if WMSE had used FDC funding in their project
to get more female contributes. Also as it is rather easy to get that
funded from within Sweden and semi-government financing organisations
(but not for WMF to get that money for general
Supporting individual English teachers in rural Poland and reviewing
hundred thousand to million dollar grants from all around the World
are barely comparable to each other if they can be at all, but
definitely can be counted as relevant experience. Anyways I meant to
give an overall positive
Liam,
Both of these policies are internally consistent and logical, however I
believe that they are at least partially contradictory
I understand that the potential contradiction relies on the fact that if
fundraising and spending of chapters are really fully separated, their
applications to
On 25 November 2014 at 20:45, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:
Can you elaborate just a little on how you find them to be contradictory?
If we assume, as I think is reasonable, that the first principle applies to
funds raised by WMF and the second is directed at funds raised by
individual
2014-11-25 18:09 GMT-03:00 Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com:
These points imply to me that the the FDC believes it has a duty to oversee
the manner in which funds are raised by the Chapters from external sources,
not just how the money that is requested from the WMF is used. (of course
these
Hoi,
With all respect, these are pennies to the pound. When you have people
working professionally the choice is very much: are they to do a job or are
they to raise funds and do a job. To do the latter effectively it takes two
because the skills involved are different.
I completely agree that it
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