Re: [Wikimedia-l] Celebrating Parisian culture and libertarianism

2015-11-16 Thread Gnangarra
Kaya I know I have contributed to the confusion here and for that I apologize, thank you Christophe for express better what I was getting at. Can I suggest that we choose period to put focus on the positive aspects of the migration over the last 70 years, including the various UN charters and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Celebrating Parisian culture and libertarianism

2015-11-16 Thread Christophe Henner
Hi, My email was an answer to this topic going to the religion ground, sorry if it was interpretated otherwise. More to the point. As a movement, we must never remember that we ARE diverse. That is one of the thing I love the most is that twice a year I do actually get to meet people from the

[Wikimedia-l] Community revitalization

2015-11-16 Thread Michal Lester
Dear friends and colleague, I would to share with you the post we published on Wikimedia Blog (November 13, 2015) [1]. It describes how WMIL works with few *Wiktionary* volunteers in a process of revitalization of *Wiktionary* community. I believe it could be useful case study for those of you

[Wikimedia-l] IRC office hour this Thursday: reconnecting with the shared hosting community

2015-11-16 Thread Gilles Dubuc
As part of T113210 [1], which is a broader discussion on track for the developer summit, I am hosting an IRC office hour [2] this Thursday at 19:00 UTC. Since shared hosting is a broad topic, this session will focus specifically on brainstorming ways to reconnect with the shared hosting

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Engineering] IRC office hour this Thursday: reconnecting with the shared hosting community

2015-11-16 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi Gilles, Thanks for leading this! My reading of your agenda leads me to believe that this is intended as a "problem solving" meeting, as described in User:RobLa-WMF/Meetings#Taxonomy. To quote that article: *Problem-solving* - Discuss a problem that we don’t know how to solve. >

[Wikimedia-l] Harassment consultation on Meta

2015-11-16 Thread Patrick Earley
Hello all, Community Advocacy at the WMF is running a month-long discussion on the topic of harassment on our projects. This will be the first in a series - as it is the initial discussion, we are keeping it open and broad to encourage brainstorming and creativity. It is currently live on Meta,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harassment consultation on Meta

2015-11-16 Thread Anna Stillwell
I've heard about the hard work that this team has done to launch this and the kind of transformation you're seeking. Well done. Congratulations. /a On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Patrick Earley wrote: > Hello all, > > Community Advocacy at the WMF is running a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Celebrating Parisian culture and libertarianism

2015-11-16 Thread Isarra Yos
Isaac David makes good points, and writing it off as racist and discrimination is ridiculous. The people who did these things may indeed be bloodlusty assholes, but what led them to this is important too, and denying that will only ensure that it is not understood, not addressed. I don't care

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Celebrating Parisian culture and libertarianism

2015-11-16 Thread Austin Hair
This thread went to a bad place surprisingly fast, even for this list. I understand that emotions are high, but please keep your tempers in check and your discussion on-topic. Whatever you may think of Fæ's proposal, I don't think it was intended to provoke a religious argument, which I hope

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Celebrating Parisian culture and libertarianism

2015-11-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Do read about exclusion (a sociology term) and given the people concerned it fits. The reason people give and the mechanisms involved are separate. While we suffer for France, we will suffer the consequences when people no longer appreciate that one of the universal human rights is the right

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Celebrating Parisian culture and libertarianism

2015-11-16 Thread Gnangarra
What I said was I think we should be cautious about linking the items Fea proposed both because of the generalisations - stereotypes it would elevate because of Wikipedias online authority. I pointed out that Wikimedians as a community strectches beyond Western Europe and North America and that