Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Board update

[Anders Wennersten]

Den 2016-05-07 kl. 22:25, skrev Andreas Kolbe:

On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 7:17 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak 
wrote:


Regarding the community seat, I am in conversation with the Election
Committee, which has narrowed it down to just a few options. We are going
to finish this discussion soon and I expect the timeline to be announced
before Wikimania.



Are you considering reinstating James Heilman, as one of these options?


The Election Committee early on in these discussion came to favour an 
election to resolve the vacancy rather then by appointment.


But when it comes to an election we are not in full agreement if an 
election of one is the preferred option or an election of all three 
community seats (an early ordinary election). Also in the question of 
when, we find there is a lot a practical issues  to take into 
consideration (when will the new standing election committee be fully in 
place? is it doable to have an election during summer months?, the 
timing of the actual appointment to the Board after the (s)election etc)


Anders



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Account of the events leading to James Heilman's removal

[Todd Allen]

Denny,

I appreciate that you've put forth this account. That's in no way facetious
or just a pretext, I am actually very glad to see someone speak to this.

I'd like, however, to suggest what would actually begin the process of
healing, since that's your intent. Most of us knew at least more or less
what James was accused of.

First, James needs to be restored to the Board, or at very least, his
restoration needs to be passed as a referendum to the community. Since
you've now posted your side, there's no reason that the community, rather
than the Board, shouldn't decide on James' trusteeship. That needs to
happen now, not at the next election, and it should have happened to start
with.

Second, the Board needs to resolve never to remove a community trustee
except by a successful recall referendum to the community. The Board should
never, under any circumstances, remove a community trustee without consent
of the community that elected them. That was unacceptable and must never
happen again. There will be no "healing" without a promise that it will not.

Third, the "founder" seat needs to be eliminated. Jimmy would be, of
course, eligible to run for a community seat or be appointed to an expert
seat, but he shouldn't be a "member for life". Alternatively, the "founder"
seat could be made into an advisory, non-voting position.

And finally, while this part is optional, it wouldn't hurt for the Board to
increase the number of community elected ( and not "recommended", elected)
seats to a majority. While there's room for "expert" appointed seats and
chapter selected seats (and no, chapter selected seats are NOT community
selected seats), the community should be in control and have a majority,
and the others should be an advisory minority. The community has always
been in charge of WMF projects, and this should continue to be the case.

If you want to actually start the healing process, rather than deflect, at
the very least the first three things need to be done. If you want to
regain trust, all of them need to be. The community needs to be in charge.

Todd
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Account of the events leading to James Heilman's removal

[Kevin Gorman]

I talked to James throughout his trusteeship, and I have no doubt that he
for a second believed that his fidicuiary duty was towards anyone other
than the WMF. Two very different confidentiality issues have been conflated
w/r/t Jame's removal: the appropriate level of of confidentiality regarding
the KE, a significant movement engineering project (which is not terribly
high, imo,) and the appropriate level of confidentiality regarding the
concerns of staff members regarding leadership (which is much higher imo,
to the point that if James honestly believed that by disclosing a
particular piece of information revealed to him by a staff member he would
be endangering the possibility of future staff members approaching him with
similar concerns, it may be completely appropriate for James to
categorically not reveal that information.)

Fidiciuary duty is, unfortunately, an often misunderstood concept.  James'
duty was not to act how other board members thought he should act, nor how
outside counsel thought he should act.  To use an EXTREME example, and to
be clear, I have no basis to believe this was the case, if Lila had
personally committed severely inappropriate personal acts against an
individual staff member and in James' best judgement informing outside
counsel of that fact could harm the interests of the WMF- e.g., by not
having future whistleblowers' be willing to come forward to him, then it
would both be unethical and against Jame's fidicicuary duty as a trustee to
reveal this information to anyone - be they fellow board members, outside
counsel, etc.  James is absolutely 100% correct in stating that any
attorney retained by the Wikimedia Foundation, whether in-house (e.g.,
Geoff, Michelle,) or an outside firm, has, as their client, the Wikimedia
Foundation - not the staff members in question.  If outside counsel thought
that they in turn had a duty to their clients (the WMF) to reveal
information that James had revealed to them that he had received from a
staff member, outside counsel would be acting unethically if they then
didn't do so.  Jame's description of his events backs up everything he's
said publicly previously, with the exception of me adding "new WMF trustees
really need better training, and I can suggest nonprofit consultancies to
provide such if needed."

I find it bloody incredible that James, who was involved in figuring out
whether a formal task force was needed, was then excluded from it and
expected to suborn his personal judgement (which he cannot legally do) to
that of other trustees.  I know my involvement in Wikipedia-proper has been
at a nadir of late, but I've still been closely following events (and
expect that nadir to receed soon.) Ignoring Arnon, and other recent poor
decisions, I still have incredibly serious issues with the fact that we
have a trustee sitting FOR LIFE (Jimmy) who has been committing defamation
per se against James' this entire time, who is in his professional role, a
doctor.  WMF governance needs a VERY through review, and all of the issues
involved in this entire situation - including a trustee for life
continually failing his fiduciary duty by committing defamation per se
against James - needs a TRANSPARENT outside review as soon as possible, or
we face a literally existential threat to WMF's survival.

Best,
Kevin Gorman

On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 9:47 AM, James Heilman  wrote:

> Denny I never stated that I "was informed at a later point that [my] duty
> as a trustee is towards the WMF". I have at all times understood that I
> have a duty to the WMF and believe I have at all times fulfilled this duty.
> A duty to the foundation; however, does not permit me to act unethically
> and one is still required to use their own judgement.
>
> What I did state was "Note that in later conversations I was informed that
> it may not be legal for board members to promise confidentiality to
> individual staff, as our ultimate duty is to the WMF as a whole".
>
> James
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Nathan  wrote:
>
> > On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Denny Vrandečić 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Just a few points of clarification:
> > >
> > > * I have, to the best of my memory, passed on information only with the
> > > understanding of my sources. If any of my sources disagrees with that,
> > > please send me a message - I want to know and understand that I made a
> > > mistake there.
> > > * We are not talking about the information being shared with the whole
> > > Board (this was not clear from my account, sorry). No one was asked to
> > > forward information to the whole Board. Instead, external legal counsel
> > was
> > > collecting the documents: they were sent to the lawyers, under
> > > attorney-client privilege, not to the whole Board or the Task Force.
> > > * I am surprised to see James state that he was informed at a later
> point
> > > that his duty as a trustee is towards the WMF, although that explains a
> > few
> > > things. He was sitting in the same ro

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [ASBS] Vote of Wikimedia Ukraine

[Pine W]

Hi Illia,

Thank you for sharing the reasoning for your chapter's decision and the
considerable degree of transparency about your decisions. May I request
that your explanation, and information similar to this from other chapters,
be documented on Meta for historical reference?

I am also CC'ing the Affiliates mailing list with this request.

Understandably, chapters will vary in how much and what kind of information
they choose to make public. For the information that is made public, I
think that it would be nice to have it documented or linked from a single
location that's easy to reference.

Regards,

Pine

On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Ilya Korniyko  wrote:

> Dear colleagues,
>
> The Board of Wikimedia Ukraine has decided to share the reasoning behind
> this choice. First of all we are very thankful to everyone who decided to
> nominate themselves, and to those, who supported them, translated their
> statements and helped to spread the word.
>
> Secondly, we decided to have 5 places rated. It was a very hard choice to
> make, we have tried to talk to the candidates and to evaluate their
> relevant experience and knowledge.
>
> Our first choice remains Nataliia Tymkiv, our Deputy Chair and Treasurer.
> We have shared our reasoning here: wmua:Рішення Правління №30/2016 від 4
> березня 2016
> <
> https://ua.wikimedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D1%96%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8F_%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BB%D1%96%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8F_%E2%84%9630/2016_%D0%B2%D1%96%D0%B4_4_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%BD%D1%8F_2016
> >
> .
>
> Our second choice is Christophe Henner, Chair of Wikimédia France Board,
> deputy CEO of a large organization. He has led WMFR through governance
> crisis.
>
> Our third choice is Osmar Valdebenito, first President of Wikimedia Chile,
> former Executive Director of Wikimedia Argentina (and also in charge of
> their reorganization), Iberocoop Network General Coordinator, current
> member of Funds Dissemination Committee.
>
> Our fourth choice is Jan Ainali. Unfortunately he was the only candidate we
> did not get a chance to have a proper talk with, but he has relevant
> experience (Board member of Wikimedia Sweden, chapter’s ED from 2013 to
> 2016).
>
> Our fifth choice is Lodewijk Gelauff. While he lacks experience of working
> with staff as a Board member, he has helped to organise Wiki Loves
> Monuments, one of the biggest community-driven projects, so his insight can
> be very useful to the Board of Trustees.
>
> We had a pleasure to talk and listen to almost all candidates. We
> identified some strong skills in every nominee, but after some long
> discussions decided to support these 5 candidates, as the most balanced
> ones. We think that all candidates proved that they are committed to our
> Movement, and Siska Doviana, Susanna Mkrtchyan, Leigh Thelmadatter, Kunal
> Mehta and Maarten Deneckere would also make sure that their unique voices
> are well heard, that WMF and BoT and the Community itself can communicate
> with each other better. And we think that no matter who is selected, the
> Community will not stop helping the BoT to improve its work. And we are
> open to discussions and cooperation, as we believe that this selection
> process is only a prelude to some real changes. The two people selected
> will have to keep up with the trust of a lot of people, but it does not
> mean that 8 not selected yet can rest and just do nothing. We are all going
> to work really hard if we care and believe in what we do.
>
> On behalf of the Board of Wikimedia Ukraine,
>
> Illia Korniiko, Chair
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[Wikimedia-l] [ASBS] Vote of Wikimedia Ukraine

[Ilya Korniyko]

Dear colleagues,

The Board of Wikimedia Ukraine has decided to share the reasoning behind
this choice. First of all we are very thankful to everyone who decided to
nominate themselves, and to those, who supported them, translated their
statements and helped to spread the word.

Secondly, we decided to have 5 places rated. It was a very hard choice to
make, we have tried to talk to the candidates and to evaluate their
relevant experience and knowledge.

Our first choice remains Nataliia Tymkiv, our Deputy Chair and Treasurer.
We have shared our reasoning here: wmua:Рішення Правління №30/2016 від 4
березня 2016

.

Our second choice is Christophe Henner, Chair of Wikimédia France Board,
deputy CEO of a large organization. He has led WMFR through governance
crisis.

Our third choice is Osmar Valdebenito, first President of Wikimedia Chile,
former Executive Director of Wikimedia Argentina (and also in charge of
their reorganization), Iberocoop Network General Coordinator, current
member of Funds Dissemination Committee.

Our fourth choice is Jan Ainali. Unfortunately he was the only candidate we
did not get a chance to have a proper talk with, but he has relevant
experience (Board member of Wikimedia Sweden, chapter’s ED from 2013 to
2016).

Our fifth choice is Lodewijk Gelauff. While he lacks experience of working
with staff as a Board member, he has helped to organise Wiki Loves
Monuments, one of the biggest community-driven projects, so his insight can
be very useful to the Board of Trustees.

We had a pleasure to talk and listen to almost all candidates. We
identified some strong skills in every nominee, but after some long
discussions decided to support these 5 candidates, as the most balanced
ones. We think that all candidates proved that they are committed to our
Movement, and Siska Doviana, Susanna Mkrtchyan, Leigh Thelmadatter, Kunal
Mehta and Maarten Deneckere would also make sure that their unique voices
are well heard, that WMF and BoT and the Community itself can communicate
with each other better. And we think that no matter who is selected, the
Community will not stop helping the BoT to improve its work. And we are
open to discussions and cooperation, as we believe that this selection
process is only a prelude to some real changes. The two people selected
will have to keep up with the trust of a lot of people, but it does not
mean that 8 not selected yet can rest and just do nothing. We are all going
to work really hard if we care and believe in what we do.

On behalf of the Board of Wikimedia Ukraine,

Illia Korniiko, Chair
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Board update

[Andreas Kolbe]

On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 7:17 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak 
wrote:

> Regarding the community seat, I am in conversation with the Election
> Committee, which has narrowed it down to just a few options. We are going
> to finish this discussion soon and I expect the timeline to be announced
> before Wikimania.
>


Are you considering reinstating James Heilman, as one of these options?
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Board update

[Dariusz Jemielniak]

05.05.2016 12:11 AM "MZMcBride"  napisał(a):
>
> April has now come and gone. Is there any new information about filling
> these two vacancies on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees?

Regarding the expert seat, we have discussed our needs in Berlin, clarified
a bit of previously unresolved issues and are moving forward. We are going
to discuss the desired profiles within the BGC, and plan to move forward
with an appointment later this year.

Regarding the community seat, I am in conversation with the Election
Committee, which has narrowed it down to just a few options. We are going
to finish this discussion soon and I expect the timeline to be announced
before Wikimania.

Best,

Dariusz (a current trustee)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Account of the events leading to James Heilman's removal

[James Heilman]

Denny I never stated that I "was informed at a later point that [my] duty
as a trustee is towards the WMF". I have at all times understood that I
have a duty to the WMF and believe I have at all times fulfilled this duty.
A duty to the foundation; however, does not permit me to act unethically
and one is still required to use their own judgement.

What I did state was "Note that in later conversations I was informed that
it may not be legal for board members to promise confidentiality to
individual staff, as our ultimate duty is to the WMF as a whole".

James

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Nathan  wrote:

> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Denny Vrandečić 
> wrote:
>
> > Just a few points of clarification:
> >
> > * I have, to the best of my memory, passed on information only with the
> > understanding of my sources. If any of my sources disagrees with that,
> > please send me a message - I want to know and understand that I made a
> > mistake there.
> > * We are not talking about the information being shared with the whole
> > Board (this was not clear from my account, sorry). No one was asked to
> > forward information to the whole Board. Instead, external legal counsel
> was
> > collecting the documents: they were sent to the lawyers, under
> > attorney-client privilege, not to the whole Board or the Task Force.
> > * I am surprised to see James state that he was informed at a later point
> > that his duty as a trustee is towards the WMF, although that explains a
> few
> > things. He was sitting in the same room when we received legal training
> at
> > our first Board meeting, and he also signed (and, I assume, read) the
> same
> > documents I had.
> >
> > I am rather sad to see so many assumptions of bad faith. I was hoping
> that
> > by being more open about the events, it would help with transparency and
> > healing. It was not easy to have this account published in the first
> place,
> > and now I start to see that it was possibly a mistake.
> >
> > It strengthens my resolution to stay away from Wikimedia politics, and I
> > hope that this will free up the time and energy to get more things done.
> I
> > am thankful and full of respect for anyone who is willing to deal with
> that
> > topic in a constructive manner.
>
>
>
> Denny, thank you for your summary of events and your willingness to provide
> information that wasn't widely available. I hope you continue to be willing
> to do that, even understanding that there is no guarantee that criticism
> will not be part of the result. Talking through these things brings up
> points of confusion and misunderstanding and helps clear them up for
> everyone, and this is a good thing. An example - if the WMF/board hires an
> outside law firm, the attorney-client privilege is between the WMF and the
> firm; individual employees are not protected against disclosure of
> information by the firm to the WMF because the employee is not the client,
> the WMF is.
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-- 
James Heilman
MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian

The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine
www.opentextbookofmedicine.com
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] election for 2 seats on WMF board of trustees ends May 7...

[Chris Keating]

We are now up to 36 votes and 3 more are expected today.

Still haven't heard from Hungary,  Macedonia or Macau but this is now the
best turnout in an ASBS process.

Chris
On 6 May 2016 16:59, "Andrew Gray"  wrote:

> Many apologies - I for some reason thought today was the 7th! I
> entirely retract my scaremongering about tonight :-)
>
> Andrew.
>
> On 6 May 2016 at 16:05, Dennis Tobar  wrote:
> > Chris:
> >
> > Thanks for the clarification. When I read Andrew's message "tonight
> ends",
> > I'm read it like as "the end of the world is near", because we will cast
> > our vote tonight.
> >
> > Regards!
> >
> > El vie., 6 de may. de 2016 a la(s) 11:59, Chris Keating <
> > chriskeatingw...@gmail.com> escribió:
> >
> >> As it says on the voting page:
> >>
> >> *Voting will end at* 23:59, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 3:58 PM, Dennis Tobar 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Just for ask: the final day to cast a vote, is tonight (May 6 23:59:59
> >> UTC)
> >> > or May 7 23:59:29 UTC?
> >> >
> >> > El vie., 6 de may. de 2016 a la(s) 11:55, Andrew Gray <
> >> > andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk> escribió:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi Chris,
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks for the update. So we're at 62% voted, another 21%
> >> > > probably-voting, and 17% silent, with voting ending tonight. An
> >> > > improvement on last year, at least!
> >> > >
> >> > > Andrew.
> >> > >
> >> > > On 6 May 2016 at 15:32, Chris Keating 
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > > Just an update on this:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Currently 26 of the eligible affiliates have voted. A further 9
> have
> >> > > either
> >> > > > confirmed they are planning to vote, or have engaged
> substantively in
> >> > the
> >> > > > process (e.g. by nominating someone or participating in the
> Wikimedia
> >> > > > Conference session on the subject). I'd expect most of them will
> do
> >> so.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Those whose intentions I don't know at all include Hong Kong,
> >> Hungary,
> >> > > > Czech Republic, India, Macedonia, and Macau. At least one of those
> >> > > appears
> >> > > > to be completely inactive.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Regards,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Chris
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Many thanks
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Lane Rasberry <
> >> l...@bluerasberry.com>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Hello,
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> As of now, 13 of 42 eligible organizations have voted in the 2016
> >> > > chapters'
> >> > > >> election for 2 of 10 Wikimedia Foundation seats on the board of
> >> > > trustees.
> >> > > >> In the last election, 1/3 of organizations did not vote. Anyone
> who
> >> > > wishes
> >> > > >> to influence the election could do so by asking sleepier
> chapters to
> >> > > vote
> >> > > >> by the May 7 end of election.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Feel free also to pressure more active chapters to do their duty
> to
> >> > > support
> >> > > >> less organized chapters in voting. Support can mean having
> >> > > >> chapter-to-chapter encouragement to vote. All chapters appreciate
> >> > being
> >> > > >> reminded. All eligible organizations are supposed to vote. The
> >> > election
> >> > > >> result is more sound with more votes.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> yours,
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> --
> >> > > >> Lane Rasberry
> >> > > >> user:bluerasberry on Wikipedia
> >> > > >> 206.801.0814
> >> > > >> l...@bluerasberry.com
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