Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on Admin Rights on WMF Wiki (and other things)

2013-05-28 Thread ENWP Pine
Sigh. This is a difficult situation. I don't think anyone has suggested that firing Gayle or Philippe should happen. However, I have concerns about keeping Gayle in the Chief Talent and Culture Officer position. I directed that concern to her and I want to hear what she thinks. There may be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Google Planning Wireless Networks To Connect The Next 1B People

2013-05-28 Thread James Salsman
Kul Wadhwa wrote: Microsoft with other partners has also been working on bringing broadband to Kenya (and ultimately other African countries) via white spaces However, every party has their own agenda so hopefully competition lowers prices and gives people more choices. And having many

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on Admin Rights on WMF Wiki (and other things)

2013-05-28 Thread David Gerard
On 26 May 2013 12:18, Tomasz W. Kozlowski tom...@twkozlowski.net wrote: You cannot expect people to stop bringing this topic up until they get — in their feeling — satisfactory answers, and it is my impression that at least some people don't feel that way. +1 - d.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on Admin Rights on WMF Wiki (and other things)

2013-05-28 Thread Bence Damokos
Personally I think this line of the conversation (people resigning/fired) is taking the situation a bit too far. At the least not having volunteers administer the WMF's wiki is just punishment already. It seems that the WMF is unlikely to change its policy, so the best they can do to heal the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on Admin Rights on WMF Wiki (and other things)

2013-05-28 Thread Bence Damokos
(typo fix) On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote: Personally I think this line of the conversation (people resigning/fired) is taking the situation a bit too far. At the least not having volunteers administer the WMF's wiki is just punishment already. It

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on Admin Rights on WMF Wiki (and other things)

2013-05-28 Thread Deryck Chan
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote: Personally I think this line of the conversation (people resigning/fired) is taking the situation a bit too far. At the least not having volunteers administer the WMF's wiki is just punishment already. It seems

[Wikimedia-l] SOPA related bill in Taiwan

2013-05-28 Thread Ted Chien
My dear colleagues, Recently on May 21 the Taiwan Intellectual Property Office has announced that they will amend the Copyright Act to demand local ISPs to block illegal contents on foreign websites, just like the SOPA bill in USA last year. For more information, you can read the following news

Re: [Wikimedia-l] SOPA related bill in Taiwan

2013-05-28 Thread Benjamin Chen
On 28 May, 2013, at 9:43 PM, Ted Chien hsiangtai.ch...@gmail.com wrote: (from what we have discussed on zh.wp, the Chinese community has agreed on such blackout, but the date is still on discussion) For the record, I doubt if there is clear support/strong participation in the discussion. It

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on Admin Rights on WMF Wiki (and other things)

2013-05-28 Thread Svavar Kjarrval
Hi. There's also the viewpoint that a person being fired could go overboard and do irreparable harm to the site and the public's view of the WMF. There's of course the possibility to revert the changes on the website, since it is a wiki, but very hard to do on the public opinion, like if a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] SOPA related bill in Taiwan

2013-05-28 Thread Ted Chien
Hi Benjamin, Thanks for the reply. 2013/5/28 下午10:02 於 Benjamin Chen bencmqw...@gmail.com 寫道: On 28 May, 2013, at 9:43 PM, Ted Chien hsiangtai.ch...@gmail.com wrote: (from what we have discussed on zh.wp, the Chinese community has agreed on such blackout, but the date is still on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] SOPA related bill in Taiwan

2013-05-28 Thread Benjamin Chen
On 28 May, 2013, at 11:32 PM, Ted Chien hsiangtai.ch...@gmail.com wrote: As I previously point out in my first question: can it be geo-targeting? With CentralNotice, yes you can make it target Taiwan users only. Regards, Benjamin Chen / [[User:Bencmq]]

Re: [Wikimedia-l] SOPA related bill in Taiwan

2013-05-28 Thread Ted Chien
+ users and has 300M+ visitors each month. News - Taipei City Government would follow TIPO to block websites within a Month (in Chinese): http://www.ettoday.net/news/20130528/213815.htm Regards, Ted ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Spanish Wikipedia first million

2013-05-28 Thread Victor Grigas
Great job on the video And congratulations for 1m articles! On May 27, 2013, at 9:50 PM, Ivan Martínez gala...@gmail.com wrote: In Puebla city, too :D 2013/5/27 Osmar Valdebenito os...@wikimedia.org.ar Thanks for the announcement, Salvador. It was a really hard work to coordinate

Re: [Wikimedia-l] SOPA related bill in Taiwan

2013-05-28 Thread Benjamin Chen
City Government would follow TIPO to block websites within a Month (in Chinese): http://www.ettoday.net/news/20130528/213815.htm Regards, Ted ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on Admin Rights on WMF Wiki (and other things)

2013-05-28 Thread Brandon Harris
On May 28, 2013, at 12:38 AM, ENWP Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote: However, I have concerns about keeping Gayle in the Chief Talent and Culture Officer position. This type of conversation is really not helpful in any way. I don't know what you're expecting here. --- Brandon

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on Admin Rights on WMF Wiki (and other things)

2013-05-28 Thread Nathan
Pine says no one suggested firing Gayle or Philippe; I think it's clear that whatever semantics are invoked, he did suggest just that. That's beyond inappropriate, in my view, and an example of the toxic environment that will lead to less fruitful communication from the WMF and not more. It's not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on Admin Rights on WMF Wiki (and other things)

2013-05-28 Thread Huib Laurens
Hi, I strongly believe that the Foundation shouldn't do actions like this on a Friday. In this case there was a major discussion about it and nobody from the foundation was there to respond. But this week the new MediaWiki version is released on Friday, there is a bug (wrong version details) the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] SOPA related bill in Taiwan

2013-05-28 Thread Ted Chien
in a month from now, long before the TIPO amend the Copyright Act of Taiwan. The Taipei Free WiFi service has 200M+ users and has 300M+ visitors each month. News - Taipei City Government would follow TIPO to block websites within a Month (in Chinese): http://www.ettoday.net/news/20130528/213815

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero in Google search result

2013-05-28 Thread Tomasz Finc
Looping Dan Foy in who's managing the Zero backlog. On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:01 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: K. Peachey wrote: Can you please file this in bugzilla https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48856 MZMcBride

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on Admin Rights on WMF Wiki (and other things)

2013-05-28 Thread phoebe ayers
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Pine says no one suggested firing Gayle or Philippe; I think it's clear that whatever semantics are invoked, he did suggest just that. That's beyond inappropriate, in my view, and an example of the toxic environment that will

[Wikimedia-l] evaluation of electronics articles

2013-05-28 Thread phoebe ayers
I ran across this paragraph in the preface to O'Reilly's new book Encyclopedia of Electronic Components. [1] I'm not sure that I've ever seen an evaluation of Wikipedia's electronics coverage before, but to me this sounds like a pretty good description of a lot of our engineering articles (at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Spanish Wikipedia first million

2013-05-28 Thread Dan Rosenthal
Felicitaciones! -Dan Dan Rosenthal On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Victor Grigas vgri...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Great job on the video And congratulations for 1m articles! On May 27, 2013, at 9:50 PM, Ivan Martínez gala...@gmail.com wrote: In Puebla city, too :D 2013/5/27 Osmar

[Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on Admin Rights on WMF Wiki (and other things)

2013-05-28 Thread ENWP Pine
I don't know what to do. I lost sleep thinking about this situation last night. I think I'm still in shock and I'm frustrated. The normal situation on wiki is to have this kind of discussion in public for actions that happen on any wiki that I know of. There were similarly public discussions

Re: [Wikimedia-l] evaluation of electronics articles

2013-05-28 Thread Fred Bauder
I think that is a pretty good analysis of the entire project. It is directly related to lack of editorial control and the impossibility of being able to assign writers to problem areas. Fred I ran across this paragraph in the preface to O'Reilly's new book Encyclopedia of Electronic

Re: [Wikimedia-l] evaluation of electronics articles

2013-05-28 Thread Anders Wennersten
I usually say Wikipedia consist of some hundred different encyclopedias on different topics. And some of these are excellent and have full covering, like popes, birds, where wp is better then all other encyclopedia in all aspects Other subject area are more uneven both in covering and in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero in Google search result

2013-05-28 Thread Kul Wadhwa
Adam Baso (copied on this email) is working on it and a fix is ready. He'll do some testing to make sure it's resolved. On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org wrote: Looping Dan Foy in who's managing the Zero backlog. On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:01 AM, MZMcBride

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero in Google search result

2013-05-28 Thread Jon Robson
As I mentioned on the bug report [1] I worry more about the fact that the content is not accessible to users on another IP. If a user of Wikipedia Zero shares a link do we not want that to be accessible to other people? By showing a message as we currently do Sorry, zero.wikipedia.org is only

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero in Google search result

2013-05-28 Thread Adam Baso
Hello All, We had shelved my patch, patch 64629 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64629, in hopes that an earlier patch, patch 61809https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/61809(bug 35233 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35233), would resolve the issue naturally as Google re-indexed. But it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [WikimediaMobile] Wikipedia Zero in Google search result

2013-05-28 Thread James Alexander
At some level there seems to be a change in google (or our) settings that are doing this everywhere. I've also been seeing a lot of links indexed and appearing in google as the primary domain too (wikipedia.org/wiki/Bostonrather then en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston, seen it on Wikivoyage as well and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [WikimediaMobile] Wikipedia Zero in Google search result

2013-05-28 Thread Jon Robson
FWIW Adding debug=true on zero domains should show the canonical url to be present. As stated before this will fix itself within less than 30 days as the caches update. e.g. http://hak.zero.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%C3%A8u-Ya%CC%8Dp?debug=true As James points out the main site doesn't use canonical

Re: [Wikimedia-l] evaluation of electronics articles

2013-05-28 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 28.05.2013 19:40, phoebe ayers wrote: I ran across this paragraph in the preface to O'Reilly's new book Encyclopedia of Electronic Components. [1] I'm not sure that I've ever seen an evaluation of Wikipedia's electronics coverage before, but to me this sounds like a pretty good description

Re: [Wikimedia-l] evaluation of electronics articles

2013-05-28 Thread George Herbert
...and engineering (theory ok to good, practical often very weak). And varies across fields radically... On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ruwrote: On 28.05.2013 19:40, phoebe ayers wrote: I ran across this paragraph in the preface to O'Reilly's new book

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Grantmaking Quarterly Review notes posted on Meta

2013-05-28 Thread Adele Vrana
Hi all, The minutes and slides from the Quarterly Review meeting of the Grantmaking team have now been posted on Meta: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings/Quarterly_reviews/Grantmaking,_2013-05-15 Cheers, Adele -- *Adele Vrana* Senior Project Assistant to the

[Wikimedia-l] FDC IRC office hours on the LOI in 3 minutes!

2013-05-28 Thread Katy Love
Hi everyone, As announced earlier, the FDC support team is holding office hours on #wikimedia-office to speak about questions on the Letter of Intent process in a few minutes and again at 15:00 UTC (Wednesday May 29). * Wendesday, May 29 at 0:00 UTC * Wednesday, May 29 at 15:00 UTC We look

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero in Google search result

2013-05-28 Thread Adam Baso
All, My mistake. The pages in Google's index that I used for sampling - the ones that have Sorry, ... in their description in Google search results - are cached pages. I assumed incorrectly that those pages were based on recent indexing (e.g., in the past few days). I think we can actually stick

[Wikimedia-l] New designs for account creation and login rolling out gradually to all projects

2013-05-28 Thread Steven Walling
Hi everyone, Per our blog post last month,[1] we've been testing redesigns for account creation and login across the projects. We've been doing so on an opt-in basis, but we've dealt with any major bugs and translations are complete for quite a few languages. Starting tomorrow and barring any