Re: [Wikimedia-l] No internet censorship in Hong Kong

2012-05-10 Thread Richard Symonds
I must admit I had concerns, but they're allayed considerably by the statement that HK is fiscally independent from the PRC. Hopefully having such a free event in an area of the world where freedom of information is in relatively short supply will do wonderful things for the movement and the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] No internet censorship in Hong Kong

2012-05-10 Thread Tom Morris
On Thursday, 10 May 2012 at 22:49, Nathan wrote: This is a similar argument to those made against Egypt or Israel etc. It's a facile and false notion that holding Wikimania in a particular city is an implicit political endorsement for the national government of the host city. You could just as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] No internet censorship in Hong Kong

2012-05-10 Thread Katie Chan
On 11/05/2012 00:14, Tom Morris wrote: In the bidding process, there rightly are some minimum standards, specifically with regards to freedom of speech laws and whether or not the cities in question are welcoming to religious and LGBT minorities. If we wish to include anti-censorship as one

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Creative Commons 4.0 draft--please help answer questions about attribution!

2012-05-11 Thread Kat Walsh
As has been posted here before, CC is working on version 4.0 of their licenses--in case you haven't seen it, the public draft is up in several different formats at http://wiki.creativecommons.org/4.0_Drafts Right now their focus is on attribution, and they are asking several specific questions

Re: [Wikimedia-l] No internet censorship in Hong Kong

2012-05-11 Thread Deryck Chan
Not a problem. Many east and south-east Asian countries' citizens enjoy visa-free access to Hong Kong ( http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:HK_Visa_Policy.png ). Visa-on-demand for business or leisure travel is also available for residents of most major cities in mainland China and all of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Event coordinators: how to create many accounts from 1 IP address

2012-05-16 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Sumana Harihareswara, 16/05/2012 17:23: When you're running an event, sometimes you want to help lots of people create accounts on Wikimedia sites. To prevent spamming/vandalism, ordinarily there's a cap on the number of accounts that can be created from one IP address in a single day. But

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fire Drill Re: Wikimedia sites not easy to archive (Was Re: Knol is closing tomorrow )

2012-05-16 Thread John
Ill run a quick benchmark and import the full history of simple.wikipedia to my laptop wiki on a stick, and give an exact duration On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:26 AM, John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com wrote: Toolserver is a clone of the wmf servers minus files. they run a database replication of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fire Drill Re: Wikimedia sites not easy to archive (Was Re: Knol is closing tomorrow )

2012-05-16 Thread Anthony
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:30 AM, John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com wrote: Ill run a quick benchmark and import the full history of simple.wikipedia to my laptop wiki on a stick, and give an exact duration Simple.wikipedia is nothing like en.wikipedia. For one thing, there's no need to turn on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fire Drill Re: Wikimedia sites not easy to archive (Was Re: Knol is closing tomorrow )

2012-05-16 Thread Mike Dupont
Well to be honest, I am still upset about how much data is deleted from wikipedia because it is not notable, there are so many articles that I might be interested in that are lost in the same garbage as spam and other things. We should make non notable articles and non harmful ones available in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fire Drill Re: Wikimedia sites not easy to archive (Was Re: Knol is closing tomorrow )

2012-05-16 Thread Anthony
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:22 AM, John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com wrote: Anthony the process is linear, you have a php inserting X number of rows per Y time frame. Amazing. I need to switch all my databases to MySQL. It can insert X rows per Y time frame, regardless of whether the database is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fire Drill Re: Wikimedia sites not easy to archive (Was Re: Knol is closing tomorrow )

2012-05-17 Thread Mike Dupont
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 6:06 AM, John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com wrote: If your willing to foot the bill for the new hardware Ill gladly prove my point given the millions of dollars that wikipedia has, it should not be a problem to provide such resources for a good cause like that. -- James

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fire Drill Re: Wikimedia sites not easy to archive (Was Re: Knol is closing tomorrow )

2012-05-17 Thread J Alexandr Ledbury-Romanov
I'd like to point out that the increasingly technical nature of this conversation probably belongs either on wikitech-l, or off-list, and that the strident nature of the comments is fast approaching inappropriate. Alex Wikimedia-l list administrator 2012/5/17 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org On

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia sites not easy to archive (Was Re: Knol is closing tomorrow )

2012-05-17 Thread Anthony
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:22 AM, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: They are XML dumps. Why did you say they are semi-useless? Because they are XML dumps, mainly. The data in the WMF database is compressed in a format which can be easily randomly accessed. The dump procedure is to uncompress it,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia sites not easy to archive (Was Re: Knol is closing tomorrow )

2012-05-17 Thread Anthony
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote: We could also consider the possibility of allowing users to use OpenID or OAuth or whatever the web identity mechanism du jour is to allow loose affiliation of usernames between MediaWiki installs. That way you can

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia sites not easy to archive (Was Re: Knol is closing tomorrow )

2012-05-17 Thread Tom Morris
On Thursday, 17 May 2012 at 13:34, Anthony wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org (mailto:t...@tommorris.org) wrote: We could also consider the possibility of allowing users to use OpenID or OAuth or whatever the web identity mechanism du jour is to allow

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia sites not easy to archive (Was Re: Knol is closing tomorrow )

2012-05-17 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 17 May 2012 13:32, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: Because they are XML dumps, mainly.  The data in the WMF database is compressed in a format which can be easily randomly accessed. It's a dump. It's not supposed to be randomly accessed. We're talking about archives, not mirrors.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fire Drill Re: Wikimedia sites not easy to archive (Was Re: Knol is closing tomorrow )

2012-05-17 Thread Neil Harris
On 17/05/12 12:49, Anthony wrote: Please have someone at WMF coordinate this so that there aren't multiple requests made. In my opinion, it should preferably be made by a WMF employee. Fill out the form at https://aws-portal.amazon.com/gp/aws/html-forms-controller/aws-dataset-inquiry Tell

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fire Drill Re: Wikimedia sites not easy to archive (Was Re: Knol is closing tomorrow )

2012-05-17 Thread Kim Bruning
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 07:43:09AM -0400, Anthony wrote: In fact, I think someone at WMF should contact Amazon and see if they'll let us conduct the experiment for free, in exchange for us creating the dump for them to host as a public data set (http://aws.amazon.com/publicdatasets/). That

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: IRC office hours with Kul and Amit, about Wikipedia Zero and other mobile work

2012-05-17 Thread Steven Walling
Just a reminder that this is happenening this morning. -- Forwarded message -- From: Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org Date: May 3, 2012 4:01 PM Subject: IRC office hours with Kul and Amit, about Wikipedia Zero and other mobile work To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Hi

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing 2 Community Fellows

2012-05-17 Thread Siko Bouterse
It is my great pleasure to introduce two new Community Fellows in the Wikimedia Fellows Program: Tanvir Rahman and Steven Zhang. Tanvir Rahman is a Wikimedian who serves the movement locally and globally, both on- and off-wiki. Tanvir has been an active editor of Bengali Wikipedia since 2009, he

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing 2 Community Fellows

2012-05-17 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Siko Bouterse sboute...@wikimedia.orgwrote: It is my great pleasure to introduce two new Community Fellows in the Wikimedia Fellows Program: Tanvir Rahman and Steven Zhang. Congratulations to the both of you, best wishes for your fellowships. -- ~Keegan

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing 2 Community Fellows

2012-05-17 Thread Nurunnaby Chowdhury
wow..congrtz Tanvir.. On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Siko Bouterse sboute...@wikimedia.orgwrote: It is my great pleasure to introduce two new Community Fellows in the Wikimedia Fellows Program: Tanvir Rahman and Steven Zhang. Tanvir Rahman is a Wikimedian who serves the movement locally

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing 2 CommunityFellows

2012-05-17 Thread Ms. Anne Frazer
Congratulations to Tanvir Rahman and Steven Zhang on the announcement of them being award the honour of 'Community Fellow'. In particular we wish to pass on our congratulations to Wikimedia Australia Member, Steve Zhang, for receiving the award and wish him every success with what promises to

[Wikimedia-l] [Announcement] James Forrester joins WMF as Technical Product Analyst

2012-05-17 Thread Howie Fung
Everyone, It’s my pleasure to announce that James Forrester is joining our San Francisco office as a Technical Product Analyst, supporting the Visual Editor team. James started his work as a remote contractor yesterday and will be joining us in San Francisco later this year as a staff member.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Announcement] James Forrester joins WMF as Technical Product Analyst

2012-05-17 Thread Chris Keating
It’s my pleasure to announce that James Forrester is joining our San Francisco office as a Technical Product Analyst, supporting the Visual Editor team. James started his work as a remote contractor yesterday and will be joining us in San Francisco later this year as a staff member.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Announcement] James Forrester joins WMF as Technical Product Analyst

2012-05-17 Thread Katie Chan
Please join me in welcoming James! Well, in our case it's more like waving good bye, but certainly congratulations! KTC -- Experience is a good school but the fees are high. - Heinrich Heine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Announcement] James Forrester joins WMF as Technical Product Analyst

2012-05-17 Thread Thomas Morton
On 17 May 2012 18:19, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote: It’s my pleasure to announce that James Forrester is joining our San Francisco office as a Technical Product Analyst, supporting the Visual Editor team. James started his work as a remote contractor yesterday and will

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Announcement] James Forrester joins WMF as Technical Product Analyst

2012-05-17 Thread Tom Morris
On 17 May 2012 17:52, Howie Fung hf...@wikimedia.org wrote: Everyone, It’s my pleasure to announce that James Forrester is joining our San Francisco office as a Technical Product Analyst, supporting the Visual Editor team. James started his work as a remote contractor yesterday and will be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Announcement] James Forrester joins WMF as Technical Product Analyst

2012-05-17 Thread Kat Walsh
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: On 17 May 2012 18:19, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote: It’s my pleasure to announce that James Forrester is joining our San Francisco office as a Technical Product Analyst, supporting the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Announcement] James Forrester joins WMF as Technical Product Analyst

2012-05-17 Thread Erik Zachte
Congrats James! I 'm looking forward to most tongue in cheek design documents I have ever seen. :-) Erik -Original Message- From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Howie Fung Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 6:52 PM To:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Announcement] James Forrester joins WMF as Technical Product Analyst

2012-05-17 Thread Thomas Morton
On 17 May 2012 18:25, Kat Walsh k...@mindspillage.org wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: On 17 May 2012 18:19, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote: It’s my pleasure to announce that James Forrester is joining our San

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fire Drill Re: Wikimedia sites not easy to archive (Was Re: Knol is closing tomorrow )

2012-05-18 Thread Mike Dupont
Hello People, I have completed my first set in uploading the osm/fosm dataset (350gb unpacked) to archive.org http://osmopenlayers.blogspot.de/2012/05/upload-finished.html We can do something similar with wikipedia, the bucket size of archive.org is 10gb, we need to split up the data in a way

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fire Drill Re: Wikimedia sites not easy to archive (Was Re: Knol is closing tomorrow )

2012-05-18 Thread emijrp
There is no such 10GB limit, http://archive.org/details/ARCHIVETEAM-YV-6360017-6399947 (238 GB example) ArchiveTeam/WikiTeam is uploading some dumps to Internet Archive, if you want to join the effort use the mailing list https://groups.google.com/group/wikiteam-discuss to avoid wasting

Re: [Wikimedia-l] CSBS 2012 - Results

2012-05-18 Thread Béria Lima
Cross posting _ *Béria Lima* *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos* On 18 May 2012 00:12, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: Hello!

Re: [Wikimedia-l] CSBS 2012 - Results

2012-05-18 Thread Michael Snow
On 5/18/2012 8:16 AM, Béria Lima wrote: Hello! We have a result! The polls closed a few hours ago and I've already counted the votes. The chapters have, by voting, selected the following candidates to serve on the WMF board: * Patricio Lorente * Alice Wiegand *Patricio Lorente*

Re: [Wikimedia-l] CSBS 2012 - Results

2012-05-18 Thread Samuel Klein
Thank you Béria for the speedy update; and congratulations and welcome to Alice and Patricio. On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Michael Snow wikipe...@frontier.com wrote: On 5/18/2012 8:16 AM, Béria Lima wrote: We have a result! The polls closed a few hours ago and I've already counted the

[Wikimedia-l] Reminder: Seeking Chapter Finances information by Fri, May 25th

2012-05-18 Thread Narayanan, Divya
Dear Chapter Leaders, As you may have heard last week, our team at The Bridgespan Group is seeking information on the Wikimedia movement's current and future funding needs. This information will be used to develop recommendations for the Wikimedia Board of Trustees on the Funds Dissemination

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Announcement] James Forrester joins WMF as Technical Product Analyst

2012-05-18 Thread Nurunnaby Chowdhury
Congrtz James! On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Patricio Molina patriciomol...@gmail.comwrote: Congratulations, James! Patricio Molina http://twitter.com/patriciomolina On 17/05/2012, at 13:52, Howie Fung hf...@wikimedia.org wrote: Everyone, It’s my pleasure to announce that James

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Tilman Bayer officially joins the Wikimedia Foundation staff

2012-05-19 Thread Barry Newstead (WMF)
Hi everyone, I am pleased to announce that Tilman Bayer has officially joined the Wikimedia Foundation's Global Development team as Senior Operations Analyst focused on movement communications starting this week. He has just relocated to SF after receiving his work visa. As most of you will

[Wikimedia-l] Chapter Selected Board Seats- Election results

2012-05-19 Thread Sydney Poore
Resending with subject line more descriptive. Sydney On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: Cross posting _ *Béria Lima* *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Tilman Bayer officially joins the Wikimedia Foundation staff

2012-05-19 Thread Naveen Francis
Congrats HaeB !!! Really a good news for movement communications. -- Thanks, naveenpf On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Barry Newstead (WMF) bnewst...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi everyone, I am pleased to announce that Tilman Bayer has officially joined the Wikimedia Foundation's Global

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Announcement] James Forrester joins WMF as Technical Product Analyst

2012-05-19 Thread Jon Robson
Hurray for even more Britishness in the SF office! Congrats! On 19 May 2012 06:59, Nurunnaby Chowdhury n...@nhasive.com wrote: Congrtz James! On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Patricio Molina patriciomol...@gmail.comwrote: Congratulations, James! Patricio Molina

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing 2 Community Fellows

2012-05-20 Thread Florence Devouard
I can not help (I am optimistic with lot's of faith :)) Does the fellowship status implies that the WMF pays for health or retirement benefits (as it would for a staff member) or does the fellow receive a lump sum and manages by himself to pay for taxes and benefits depending on the country

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Announcement] James Forrester joins WMF as Technical Product Analyst

2012-05-20 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Tobias, 21/05/2012 01:32: On 05/17/2012 07:22 PM, Tom Morris wrote: You forgot one biggie: he has run the London Wikipedia meetup which first started in June 2004 has now met 57 times. Hong Kong has met more often, but London is, I believe, the Original and Best (in all 57 varieties).*

[Wikimedia-l] next Wikidata office hours

2012-05-21 Thread Lydia Pintscher
Heya folks, I just wanted to let you know that the next Wikidata office hours will be on Tuesday and Wednesday next week. Denny and I will be around on IRC in #wikimedia-wikidata to answer any question you might have and discuss. I assume there will be a few more questions than usual now that we

[Wikimedia-l] Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

2012-05-21 Thread David Gerard
From Rick Falkvinge, an English-language writeup of a Swedish study: http://falkvinge.net/2012/05/21/study-despite-tougher-copyright-monopoly-laws-sharing-remains-pervasive/ http://svt.se/nyheter/fortsatt-fildelning-trots-skarpt-lag (Swedish news report) 61% of 15-25-year-olds in Sweden

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

2012-05-21 Thread Johan Jönsson
2012/5/21 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: From Rick Falkvinge, an English-language writeup of a Swedish study: http://falkvinge.net/2012/05/21/study-despite-tougher-copyright-monopoly-laws-sharing-remains-pervasive/ http://svt.se/nyheter/fortsatt-fildelning-trots-skarpt-lag (Swedish news

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

2012-05-21 Thread geni
On 21 May 2012 13:09, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: From Rick Falkvinge, an English-language writeup of a Swedish study: http://falkvinge.net/2012/05/21/study-despite-tougher-copyright-monopoly-laws-sharing-remains-pervasive/ http://svt.se/nyheter/fortsatt-fildelning-trots-skarpt-lag

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

2012-05-21 Thread Mike Linksvayer
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 6:31 AM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 May 2012 13:09, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: So, is the time ripe yet for us to start pushing for a 14-year term, or do we wait a bit? I suggest we start contemplating it, however. The most pirated bit of content at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

2012-05-21 Thread Richard Symonds
FWIW, I'd like to see things being released more freely internationally, irrespective of copyright. At present, I can either pirate the Colbert Report, or watch it through a proxy using a US netflix account which I pay for using a US bank account. It isn't shown anywhere in the UK. Richard

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

2012-05-21 Thread David Gerard
On 21 May 2012 18:59, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think the right term here is 0 years.  It is also not life + 70.  Perhaps 7 + 7. I suggested 14 as a likely figure because that figure is already in common currency - as it was the term in the UK (Statute of Anne) and in the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing 2 Community Fellow

2012-05-21 Thread Florence Devouard
Thank you Siko for answering. That's a mix of curiosity (for the benefits, pensions and so on) and of concern (on the responsibility side of things). Wikimedia France received several legal complaints in the past few years and the frequency is increasing. The inventivity and the boldness of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

2012-05-21 Thread Samuel Klein
14 years is a fine place to start. Are there any existing campaigns pushing for it? S. On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:22 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 May 2012 18:59, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think the right term here is 0 years.  It is also not life + 70.  

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

2012-05-21 Thread Mike Dupont
What I really find upsetting is that PBS produces videos that cannot be watched out side of the states, it really upsets me. Also in germany, it is just unbearable, these copyright trolls called GEMA take away all the fun of youtube. mike On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Richard Symonds

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

2012-05-21 Thread emijrp
Lol, 14 years term. Good luck. That is a lost battle. I think that the useful approach is to spread the word about free licenses, that allow to use content NOW. 2012/5/21 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com 14 years is a fine place to start. Are there any existing campaigns pushing for it? S.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

2012-05-21 Thread David Gerard
On 21 May 2012 20:30, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: 14 years is a fine place to start.  Are there any existing campaigns pushing for it?  S. Now that I'm looking, I can't find any campaigns as such! I thought the Pirate Parties asked for 14 years, but I'm wrong: the Swedish party

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

2012-05-21 Thread Mike Linksvayer
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: FWIW, I'd like to see things being released more freely internationally, irrespective of copyright. At present, I can either pirate the Colbert Report, or watch it through a proxy using a US netflix account

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

2012-05-21 Thread Todd Allen
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:42 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 May 2012 20:30, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: 14 years is a fine place to start.  Are there any existing campaigns pushing for it?  S. Now that I'm looking, I can't find any campaigns as such! I thought

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

2012-05-21 Thread Samuel Klein
I like the cc-licenses list thread you linked, Mike; thank you. I take it that thread didn't continue past December? I agree generally with the points Greg London was making there: http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-licenses/2011-December/006472.html For me the central value in choosing a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

2012-05-21 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* David Gerard wrote: So, is the time ripe yet for us to start pushing for a 14-year term, or do we wait a bit? I suggest we start contemplating it, however. You don't say who we are, but in case some people think the Wikimedia Foundation should position itself on copyright matters much beyond

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Internal-l] CSBS 2012 - Results

2012-05-22 Thread phoebe ayers
Forwarding to Wikimedia-l -- Forwarded message -- From: Matt Halprin matt.halp...@gmail.com Date: Sun, May 20, 2012 at 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [Internal-l] CSBS 2012 - Results To: Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed subscription) interna...@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

2012-05-23 Thread George Herbert
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Mike Linksvayer m...@gondwanaland.com wrote: Maximising artistic production is a terrible goal for policy. Why? The whole idea of copyright - as the US started seeing it, in our constitution and thence onwards, is properly rewarding creative people for their

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

2012-05-23 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 2:33 AM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.comwrote: Nobody's made a big public case for any shorter term. That's a mistake. The whole CC and free content movement needs to step up. We need Cory and other luminaries advocating for a sane term, and 14 is a good

[Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Academy, Berlin: Programme and Registration

2012-05-23 Thread Nicole Ebber
(Appologies for cross posting) From 29 June until 1 July 2012 the Wikipedia Academy (#wpac2012) [1] will take place in Berlin, under the theme “Research and Free Knowledge”. For the first time, Wikimedia Deutschland organises this conference in cooperation with Freie Universität Berlin [2] and

[Wikimedia-l] Reminder: Chapter Finances Survey due tomorrow (Fri, May 25th)

2012-05-24 Thread Narayanan, Divya
Dear Chapter Leaders, A quick reminder that we ask you to complete the Chapter Finances Survey (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/Chapter_Finances_Survey) by Friday, May 25th (that's tomorrow). This information is absolutely crucial to the recommendation for the

[Wikimedia-l] WMF to endorse a petition to the White House mandate free access to publicly funded research

2012-05-24 Thread Dario Taraborelli
Hi everybody, I wanted to give you the heads up that the Wikimedia Foundation is planning to endorse a petition to the White House to mandate open access to taxpayer-funded research. The petition is in line with previous open access declarations that we endorsed and is supported by a large

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Event coordinators: how to create many accounts from 1 IP address

2012-05-24 Thread Asaf Bartov
So, I often find myself doing outreach related to enwiki before large groups, and while I have no interest in becoming a sysop, could really use the Account Creator permission. Is there really no page to publicly request this? The instructions cited below, taken from here[1], suggest so, but

[Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in higher education: progress in Spain

2012-05-25 Thread Lucien leGrey
Hello all. I would like to report on some initiatives and ongoing projects that we have been conducting this academic year in Spain, from our local Wikimedia Chapter, regarding the use of Wikipedia in higher education. Several members of Wikimedia-España have delivered courses, seminars and

[Wikimedia-l] Join in from afar for the Smithsonian Institution Edit-a-Thon!

2012-05-25 Thread Sarah Stierch
(Pardon the crosspost) Hi everyone! Our second Smithsonian edit-a-thon is going to start in about an hour (1 PM EST) and we'll be utilizing an Etherpad compliments of Wikimedia DC http://notes.wikimediadc.org/p/SIEdit2 Feel free to join in! We'll also be utilizing the #glamwiki hashtag.

[Wikimedia-l] Reminder: Office hours about the new mobile site and other mobile work at the WMF

2012-05-25 Thread Steven Walling
Just a quick reminder that this is happening in less than an hour. -- Forwarded message -- From: Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org Date: Mon, May 21, 2012 at 6:08 PM Subject: Office hours about the new mobile site and other mobile work at the WMF To: Wikimedia Mailing List

[Wikimedia-l] Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

2012-05-28 Thread Andrew Gray
On Monday, 21 May 2012, Samuel Klein wrote: O'Reilly is offering works under 14 years (c), thence CC-by Campaign idea: set up a named class of license for friendly groups like O'Reilly that are committing to 14 years, which are defined by terming out in no more than 14 years to CC0 or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

2012-05-28 Thread Tom Morris
On 28 May 2012 22:37, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: I'd love to see -NC and -ND dropped from the CC catalog, but I doubt its going to happen. It would be nice if -NC and -ND had a time limit on them, after which the work becomes CC-BY or CC-BY-SA. Although NC and ND cause pain

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Academics and accessible writing

2012-05-28 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/5/29 Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com: Thoughts? Do people from non-English outreach programs to academics have any similar experiences? Depends on the particular project and the people involved. In a project about Tort law we got several dozens of Hebrew articles about the subject

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Academics and accessible writing

2012-05-28 Thread Ms. Anne Frazer
On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:30 AM Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: But I was left with a nagging annoyance: these articles are almost all incomprehensible to someone without a advanced college education and a high degree of proficiency in English. Topics as basic as [[job

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Report to Board: Chinese Internet Research Conference

2012-05-29 Thread Ting Chen
Original-Nachricht Betreff:Report to Board: Chinese Internet Research Conference Datum: Sun, 27 May 2012 18:07:54 +0200 Von:Ting Chen tc...@wikimedia.org An: Board list boar...@lists.wikimedia.org Hello dear all, at Mai 21st and 22nd I attended the 10.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Academics and accessible writing

2012-05-29 Thread David Gerard
On 29 May 2012 05:41, Ms. Anne Frazer fraz...@bigpond.com wrote: However, when I read your words, the essence of your comments is clear in that part of your message is couched in attacking good prose because it is too difficult to read and understand. I remind myself that you don't mean to

[Wikimedia-l] TomTom does a Britannica

2012-05-29 Thread David Gerard
TomTom press release: http://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/licensing/newsletter/201205/didyouknow/ OpenStreetMap volunteer response: http://www.systemed.net/blog/index.php?post=23 Flags TomTom quote-mining. - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list

Re: [Wikimedia-l] TomTom does a Britannica

2012-05-29 Thread Deryck Chan
I was skeptical with parent-like satnavs when they were first introduced back then; I still am skeptical today. What's inadequate about Read map*, pay attention to the road, use brain? Deryck *I'm a big fan of using the automatic route-planning features of map systems like Google Maps or even

Re: [Wikimedia-l] TomTom does a Britannica

2012-05-29 Thread Tom Morris
On 29 May 2012 13:08, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: The difference is that Wikipedia is usable in the real world, whereas OSM, for the most part, is not. Yes, TomTom is dying.  But it's because of Google, not because of OSM. I'd say OSM is beginning to be pretty usable in the real world.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] TomTom does a Britannica

2012-05-29 Thread David Gerard
On 29 May 2012 13:08, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: The difference is that Wikipedia is usable in the real world, whereas OSM, for the most part, is not. Yes, TomTom is dying.  But it's because of Google, not because of OSM. I'd actually flag smartphones as the culprit. They're the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] TomTom does a Britannica

2012-05-29 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 29 May 2012 13:23:25 +0100, Tom Morris wrote: On 29 May 2012 13:08, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: The difference is that Wikipedia is usable in the real world, whereas OSM, for the most part, is not. Yes, TomTom is dying.  But it's because of Google, not because of OSM. I'd

Re: [Wikimedia-l] TomTom does a Britannica

2012-05-29 Thread Richard Symonds
Tom: Is there a way to find out where OSM isn't very accurate/complete? Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Disclaimer viewable at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Email_disclaimer Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk On 29 May 2012 13:29, Yaroslav M. Blanter

Re: [Wikimedia-l] TomTom does a Britannica

2012-05-29 Thread Anthony
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Tom: Is there a way to find out where OSM isn't very accurate/complete? Sure, but they all require comparison to something (a data source, memory, the real world) which is accurate/complete.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] TomTom does a Britannica

2012-05-29 Thread Tom Morris
On 29 May 2012 13:38, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Tom: Is there a way to find out where OSM isn't very accurate/complete? Well, there's OSM bugs. Basically, there is a way you can file a bug on the map, sort of like how you might leave a note on a talk page (only

Re: [Wikimedia-l] TomTom does a Britannica

2012-05-29 Thread Anthony
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/5/29 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org: The difference is that Wikipedia is usable in the real world, whereas OSM, for the most part, is not. I see it the other way around: OSM, for the most part, IS usable in the real world.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] TomTom does a Britannica

2012-05-29 Thread Anthony
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:  I then tried navfree usa. Looking more closely at the directions it did give me, it is having me get off the toll highway at basically every exit and then getting back on it. And the destination is off by 13 blocks (about a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] TomTom does a Britannica

2012-05-29 Thread Strainu
2012/5/29 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org: I just tried osmand.  I can't even figure out how to put in an address.  I then tried navfree usa. You're limiting yourself to Android, which isn't very fair. Try to get hold of a Garmin device with OSM maps and see if that makes a difference. I suspect it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] TomTom does a Britannica

2012-05-29 Thread Anthony
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/5/29 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org: I just tried osmand.  I can't even figure out how to put in an address.  I then tried navfree usa. You're limiting yourself to Android, which isn't very fair. Try to get hold of a Garmin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] TomTom does a Britannica

2012-05-29 Thread Strainu
2012/5/29 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org: ...if you wanna go this way, I wonder if you go to en.wikipedia.org and just use it if you want to plant tomatoes in your garden. I know I wouldn't. I wouldn't use Britannica either.  The context of the article is GPS navigation for automobiles. I'm

Re: [Wikimedia-l] next Wikidata office hours

2012-05-29 Thread Lydia Pintscher
Hey :) just a quick reminder that this is in 45 minutes. Cheers Lydia On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: Heya folks, I just wanted to let you know that the next Wikidata office hours will be on Tuesday and Wednesday next week. Denny and I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Academics and accessible writing

2012-05-29 Thread Ziko van Dijk
2012/5/29 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: No, I think it's incorrect to assume readable is a euphemism for dumbed down. Frankly, many academics are terrible writers. Because most people are terrible writers. Indeed. As Wikipedia is a general reference work I think that readability is part of

[Wikimedia-l] [Re]-Introducing the Participation Support program

2012-05-29 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear all: Here are two announcements and one request from the Participation Support Program Committee (formerly the Participation Grants Committee) and the WMF regarding the Participation Support Program (formerly the Participation Grants Program). ==A note from the Participation Support Program

[Wikimedia-l] 2011 Picture of the Year Competition

2012-05-30 Thread Srikant Kedia
Dear Wikimedians, Wikimedia Commons is happy to announce that the 2011 Picture of the Year competition is now open at last. We're interested in your opinion as to which images qualify to be the Picture of the Year for 2011 (not for 2012). Any user registered at Commons or a Wikimedia wiki

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 8, Issue 22 -- 28 May 2012

2012-05-30 Thread Wikipedia Signpost
News and notes: Wikimedia endorses open-access petition to the White House; pending changes RfC ends http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-05-28/News_and_notes Recent research: Supporting interlanguage collaboration; detecting reverts; Wikipedia's discourse, semantic

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2011 Picture of the Year Competition

2012-05-30 Thread Maggie Dennis
Thank you! I look forward to this every year. :) Our community really creates and curates some stunning photography and browsing through them is just breathtaking. Maggie On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Srikant Kedia wikiodis...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Wikimedians, Wikimedia Commons is happy

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] (MEDIA ADVISORY) Wikimania, the global Wikimedia/Wikipedia conference, comes to Washington, DC, July 12-14, 2012

2012-05-30 Thread Jay Walsh
(This release is also posted at https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Wikimania_comes_to_Washington_DC ) *Wikimania, the global Wikimedia/Wikipedia conference, comes to Washington, DC, July 12-14, 2012* WASHINGTON, DC -- May 30, 2012 -- Wikimania 2012 is coming to Washington, DC,

[Wikimedia-l] Great American Wiknic June 2012

2012-06-01 Thread Pharos
Hi Wikimedians, If you're anywhere in the United States around June 23, we would like to invite you to join the 2nd annual Great American Wiknic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiknic Now in 17 cities (add yours today!): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiknic#2012_Wiknic

[Wikimedia-l] WMF Board meetings

2012-06-01 Thread phoebe ayers
All, This is notice to the community that the WMF Board has two meetings planned in the near future: * June 6, online meeting to discuss the WMF annual plan * July 11 (before Wikimania), our regularly scheduled in-person meeting Agendas will be posted at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on IPv6

2012-06-01 Thread Erik Moeller
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com wrote: In our case here we give away /48 IPV6 to users by default. So I'm wondering, when a IP vandalize Wikipedia or any other project and a block will be placed, how is this done? Will the block just hit the IP or will it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on IPv6

2012-06-01 Thread Risker
On 1 June 2012 17:12, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi all, June 6, 2012 is IPv6 Day ( http://www.worldipv6day.org/ ). The goal of this global event is to move more ISPs, equipment manufacturers and web services to permanent adoption of IPv6. We're planning to do limited

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