Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikinews and free journalism

[Aleksey Bilogur]

There has been coverage in the Signpost. Try following through this link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&action=edit§ion=new&preview=yes&preload=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Templates/Index_preload&preloadparams[]=wikinews

On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello guys,
>
> I'm struggling to find any kind of discussion/research about wikinews and
> the relation with free journalism (free as defined here:
> http://freedomdefined.org/Definition).
>
> Did you know any kind of paper, article about it? Or even articles about
> free journalism (free mean fre, providing sources, the result is under
> a free license...)
>
> Thanks for the attention
>
>
>
> --
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] GRAPH extension is now live everywhere!

[Aleksey Bilogur]

The graph does not load for me on either Mac OS X Yosemite laptop or on a
Windows 7 desktop. In both cases it displays when editing the page---but
not when looking at a page, directly. Web platform in both cases is
whatever the latest version of Firefox is. In both cases the web console
error is the same:

"Blocked loading mixed active content "
http://toolserver.org/~dapete/ime/ime.js"[Learn More]"

Clicking through leads to:
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Security/MixedContent

On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Yuri Astrakhan 
wrote:

> Thanks Alice :)
>
> Aleksey, the graphs were never off on meta. Please check if your graphs
> show any errors in the browser console - I did update the underlying
> libraries several times.
>
>
> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Alice Wiegand  wrote:
>
> > I miss a "thank you" or "like" button on this mailing list. Looks great.
> > Thank you!
> > Alice.
> >
> > On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 10:53 PM, Aleksey Bilogur <
> > aleksey.bilo...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Was this why it was offline on meta for a couple of weeks?
> > >
> > > Amazing! I have an immediate use for this on the en.wikipedia.
> > > On May 5, 2015 4:25 PM, "Yuri Astrakhan" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Starting today, editors can use ** tag to include complex
> graphs
> > > and
> > > > maps inside articles.
> > > >
> > > > *Demo:* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph/Demo
> > > > *Vega's demo:*
> > > http://trifacta.github.io/vega/editor/?spec=scatter_matrix
> > > > *Extension info:* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph
> > > > *Vega's docs:* https://github.com/trifacta/vega/wiki
> > > > *Bug reports:* https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/ - project tag
> #graph
> > > >
> > > > Graph tag support template parameter expansion. There is also a
> > Graphoid
> > > > service to convert graphs into images. Currently, Graphoid is used in
> > > case
> > > > the browser does not support modern JavaScript, but I plan to use it
> > for
> > > > all anonymous users - downloading large JS code needed to render
> graphs
> > > is
> > > > significantly slower than showing an image.
> > > >
> > > > Potential future growth (developers needed!):
> > > > * Documentation and better tutorials
> > > > * Visualize as you type - show changes in graph while editing its
> code
> > > > * Visual Editor's plugin
> > > > * Animation <
> > https://github.com/trifacta/vega/wiki/Interaction-Scenarios
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Project history: Exactly one year ago, Dan Andreescu (milimetric) and
> > Jon
> > > > Robson demoed Vega visualization grammar <
> > > https://trifacta.github.io/vega/
> > > > >
> > > > usage in MediaWiki. The project stayed dormant for almost half a
> year,
> > > > until Zero team decided it was a good solution to do on-wiki graphs.
> > The
> > > > project was rewritten, and gained many new features, such as template
> > > > parameters. Yet, doing graphs just for Zero portal seemed silly.
> Wider
> > > > audience meant that we now had to support older browsers, thus
> Graphoid
> > > > service was born.
> > > >
> > > > This project could not have happened without the help from Dan
> > Andreescu,
> > > > Brion Vibber, Timo Tijhof, Chris Steipp, Max Semenik,  Marko Obrovac,
> > > > Alexandros Kosiaris, Jon Robson, Gabriel Wicke, and others who have
> > > helped
> > > > me develop,  test, instrument, and deploy Graph extension and
> Graphoid
> > > > service. I also would like to thank the Vega team for making this
> > amazing
> > > > library.
> > > >
> > > > --Yurik
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] GRAPH extension is now live everywhere!

[Aleksey Bilogur]

Was this why it was offline on meta for a couple of weeks?

Amazing! I have an immediate use for this on the en.wikipedia.
On May 5, 2015 4:25 PM, "Yuri Astrakhan"  wrote:

> Starting today, editors can use ** tag to include complex graphs and
> maps inside articles.
>
> *Demo:* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph/Demo
> *Vega's demo:* http://trifacta.github.io/vega/editor/?spec=scatter_matrix
> *Extension info:* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph
> *Vega's docs:* https://github.com/trifacta/vega/wiki
> *Bug reports:* https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/ - project tag #graph
>
> Graph tag support template parameter expansion. There is also a Graphoid
> service to convert graphs into images. Currently, Graphoid is used in case
> the browser does not support modern JavaScript, but I plan to use it for
> all anonymous users - downloading large JS code needed to render graphs is
> significantly slower than showing an image.
>
> Potential future growth (developers needed!):
> * Documentation and better tutorials
> * Visualize as you type - show changes in graph while editing its code
> * Visual Editor's plugin
> * Animation 
>
> Project history: Exactly one year ago, Dan Andreescu (milimetric) and Jon
> Robson demoed Vega visualization grammar  >
> usage in MediaWiki. The project stayed dormant for almost half a year,
> until Zero team decided it was a good solution to do on-wiki graphs. The
> project was rewritten, and gained many new features, such as template
> parameters. Yet, doing graphs just for Zero portal seemed silly. Wider
> audience meant that we now had to support older browsers, thus Graphoid
> service was born.
>
> This project could not have happened without the help from Dan Andreescu,
> Brion Vibber, Timo Tijhof, Chris Steipp, Max Semenik,  Marko Obrovac,
> Alexandros Kosiaris, Jon Robson, Gabriel Wicke, and others who have helped
> me develop,  test, instrument, and deploy Graph extension and Graphoid
> service. I also would like to thank the Vega team for making this amazing
> library.
>
> --Yurik
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[Wikimedia-l] Publication date for this year's annual report?

[Aleksey Bilogur]

Hi all,

Around what date or time is the WMF targeting for the release of this
year's annual report?

I need to put it on my calender. :)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF<->community disputes about deployments

[Aleksey Bilogur]

I put "model writing a new article with visual editor" on my to-do list. It
may be a good idea to do a few test runs where we boot a hundred or so
pages in each category in VisualEditor, and then see how many of each have
errors.
On Apr 25, 2015 1:51 PM, "David Gerard"  wrote:

> On 25 April 2015 at 04:11, David Goodman  wrote:
>
> > As I cannot use it consistently myself without making errors, I'm not
> going
> > to teach people the visual editor.  I've done quite nicely teaching
> > beginners to use the wiki syntax, by imitating what they see.
>
>
> When did you last use it? I ask because I just started using it again
> after a long while not, and it's *ridiculously* better now than it was
> in its first six months. It's now at the sort of quality where I'd be
> enormously happy to put it in front of people, as it wasn't two years
> ago.
>
> Also, it is the only sane way to edit tables. (The amazing thing about
> wikitext for tables is that it's actually worse than the plain HTML it
> replaced.) I expect your newbies will be less than pleased if they
> ever have to add or remove a table column and only later discover that
> the VE makes this a near-trivial task.
>
>
> - d.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF<->community disputes about deployments

[Aleksey Bilogur]

Sure, and from what I hear it helped, but it was no panacea, especially
since it's a solution that still relies on a still-declining editor base.
Not like turning the valves would be, and that's clearly not going to
happen. Hence why I doubt there's much more room for improvement on this
issue. New tech can only do so much to fix the problem.

On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 11:01 PM, James Alexander 
wrote:

> James Alexander
> Community Advocacy
> Wikimedia Foundation
> (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Pine W  wrote:
>
> > Hi Pete,
> >
> > Philippe is on vacation, so I'm forwarding this to Rachel.
> >
> > Pine
> >
>
> He pops in every once in a while during his break but while he is away
> Maggie and I are splitting his work up (and this is, for better or worse,
> well before Rachel's time).
>
>
>
> > On Apr 22, 2015 11:59 PM, "Pete Forsyth"  wrote:
> >
> > > Philippe, can you address what you were talking about here last fall --
> > was
> > > the draft feature, and the way it directed new contributors toward the
> > > Articles for Creation process, the thing you alluded to, that WMF did
> in
> > > response to ACTRIAL?
> > >
> > > If so -- has there been any study of whether its intended outcomes
> panned
> > > out? If not -- could you outline what you meant by "[WMF] proposed and
> > > built a set of tools to directly address that problem without
> > compromising
> > > the core value of openness"?
> > >
> > > Pete
> > > [[User:Peteforsyth]]
> > >
> >
>
> I do not believe he was talking about the Draft feature, which came later.
> I think he was referring to the Page Curation
>  tool which I know for a
> fact
> was created in direct response to ACTRIAL because one of the big complaints
> was the difficulty with patrolling new pages. While I wasn't directly
> involved it was one of the first software products I remember (either as a
> community member or staff member) the Foundation trying to engage closely
> with the community throughout it's development to create something that
> would work well. I also think it was the first product with a Community
> Liaison (who, incidentally, had been the most active page patroller for
> multiple years before as a community member).
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF<->community disputes about deployments

[Aleksey Bilogur]

I don't know that there is a next step. The WMF has clearly indicated they
will not budge on the solution that the high-level Wikipedia community says
is needed. I have qualms myself about the way the community operates at
times but covering ACTRAIL and New Page Patrol at the Signpost felt like an
enormous and egregious slap across the face. I still see and feel the
repercussions of these breaches of trust today.

On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Pine W  wrote:

> Hi Pete,
>
> Philippe is on vacation, so I'm forwarding this to Rachel.
>
> Pine
> On Apr 22, 2015 11:59 PM, "Pete Forsyth"  wrote:
>
> > Philippe, can you address what you were talking about here last fall --
> was
> > the draft feature, and the way it directed new contributors toward the
> > Articles for Creation process, the thing you alluded to, that WMF did in
> > response to ACTRIAL?
> >
> > If so -- has there been any study of whether its intended outcomes panned
> > out? If not -- could you outline what you meant by "[WMF] proposed and
> > built a set of tools to directly address that problem without
> compromising
> > the core value of openness"?
> >
> > Pete
> > [[User:Peteforsyth]]
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Pete Forsyth 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I hope that's not the feature Philippe meant, but maybe. For my clients
> > > and students I think it's generally caused more confusion than it's
> > solved,
> > > since now they have an additional layer of bureaucracy to navigate
> (AFC).
> > > Is there any data suggesting that's been a net improvement for new
> users?
> > >
> > > Pete
> > > On Sep 1, 2014 4:38 PM, "Risker"  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Wasn't the creation of the DRAFT namespace at least in part a response
> > to
> > >> concerns raised at ACTRIAL, in particular new, poorly developed
> articles
> > >> showing up in mainspace?
> > >>
> > >> Risker/Anne
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 1 September 2014 19:08, Joe Decker  wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > This, to the best of my knowledge, represents the entirety of the
> > WMF's
> > >> > response to ACTRIAL.  To the extent that there was additional
> feedback
> > >> > given, it was not given at WP:ACTRIAL, nor any other venue I am
> aware
> > >> of.
> > >> >
> > >> > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30208
> > >> >
> > >> > --Joe
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Todd Allen 
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > That's the issue I cited above. You haven't heard more complaints,
> > >> > because
> > >> > > the complaint was pointless the first time and took a massive
> effort
> > >> to
> > >> > > produce.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > The underlying issue isn't fixed. We're still drowning in crap and
> > >> spam
> > >> > > from people who never have the slightest intent of editing
> > helpfully,
> > >> and
> > >> > > those who are newbies who genuinely want to help but need guidance
> > get
> > >> > > caught in the crossfire aimed at the vandals and spammers. It is
> > >> > relatively
> > >> > > rare that when a genuinely new editor's first edit is a creation,
> it
> > >> is
> > >> > the
> > >> > > creation of an appropriate article on a workable subject, and
> that's
> > >> > > normally more by dumb luck than them having actual knowledge that
> > they
> > >> > > should do it.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > So, consider that a complaint. The proposed fix didn't work, and
> > most
> > >> > > people at the time didn't figure it would work, but it was clearly
> > the
> > >> > best
> > >> > > we were going to get.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Philippe Beaudette <
> > >> > > pbeaude...@wikimedia.org
> > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > On Sep 1, 2014, at 8:45 AM, Todd Allen 
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > That's contradicted by, among other things, ACTRIAL as
> mentioned
> > >> > above.
> > >> > > > The
> > >> > > > > en.wp community came to a clear consensus for a major change,
> > and
> > >> the
> > >> > > WMF
> > >> > > > > shrugged and said "Nah, rather not."
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > That's... Not exactly what I remember happening there. What I
> > >> remember
> > >> > > was
> > >> > > > that a pretty good number (~500) of enwiki community members
> came
> > >> > > together
> > >> > > > and agreed on a problem, and one plan for how to  fix it and
> asked
> > >> the
> > >> > > WMF
> > >> > > > to implement it. The WMF evaluated it, and saw a threat to a
> basic
> > >> > > project
> > >> > > > value. WMF then asked "what's the problem you're actually trying
> > to
> > >> > > > solve?", and proposed and built a set of tools to directly
> address
> > >> that
> > >> > > > problem without compromising the core value of openness. And it
> > >> seems
> > >> > to
> > >> > > > have worked out pretty well because I haven't heard a ton of
> > >> complaints
> > >> > > > about that problem since.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > __
> > >> > > > Philippe Beaudette
> > >> > > > Director

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

[Aleksey Bilogur]

Employees of WMDE, a large chunk of whose funding is dependent on the
decisions of the body they have just been enfranchised to vote for.

Yeah, no COI there *at all*.

On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Nathan  wrote:

> The idea of community elected seats is just that; the electors are members
> of the community. So if we decide that employees of community
> organizations, like the WMF, are part of the Wikimedia community... then
> they should have the right to vote on community seats of the Board of
> Trustees. Whether any individual member of the community has a second
> opportunity to influence the composition of the board is irrelevant to
> determining whether they should have suffrage as a member of the global
> community.
>
> Not to put too fine a point on it, but there are many people eligible to
> vote in the election that also have chapter affiliations which give them a
> voice in the chapter-appointed seats. Since we don't disenfranchise them
> for their "double vote" power, we should not disenfranchise other people
> that meet our working definition of who counts as a member of the
> community. Either staff employed on behalf of the movement count
> everywhere, or they don't count at all; there is no reason I can see that
> employees of the WMF are more entitled to vote than, say, employees of
> WMDE.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

[Aleksey Bilogur]

Re: Gregory. I did not mean incorporation in the legal sense, rather, I
meant it in the community sense, sorry for not being clear :). To clarify,
I am not opposed to lowering the barriers to entry, I am opposed to doing
both that and this, too.

I see two threads of thought here, automatically granting WMF staff voting
privileges (which I weakly oppose, largely per Asaf) and automatically
granting chapter and organization staff voting privileges (which I am
opposed to most strongly).

On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Sydney Poore 
> wrote:
>
> > I find the WMF staff who I interact with to be an inspiration to me with
> > their dedication to the mission to the global wikimedia movement.
> >
>
> So do I. :)
>
>
> > Perhaps the reason that many of them are not volunteering as on site
> > contributors is because they are too busy with a day job that is solely
> > focused on the mission of the movement.
> >
>
> Eh, no, that's not a valid argument.  Everybody is busy, most Wikimedians
> have day jobs or demanding schoolwork of some sort.  People manage to
> contribute to the projects if they want to.  It's a matter of
> prioritization, as always in life.  So we mustn't accept "maybe they're
> just too busy" as an excuse for why staffers purportedly "can't" edit.
> Many staffers do.  Some don't.  In both cases, it's by choice and
> preference.
>
>
> > I fully support allowing our talented and dedicated WMF staff to have the
> > opportunity to choose the people who guide the direction of the WMF.
> >
>
> Meeting the suffrage bar as a community member is not difficult.  Those
> (few) staffers who aren't already eligible to vote as either developers or
> content contributors, further filtered by the criterion "cares sufficiently
> to read about candidates and figure out voting" -- which I guesstimate to
> be under 20, and probably under 10 -- could have, and therefore should
> have, simply edited a bit, on any of the projects, to get suffrage.  I
> don't think there's any disenfranchisement if they don't get an automatic
> vote.
>
>A.
> --
> Asaf Bartov
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>
> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
> sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

[Aleksey Bilogur]

Frankly, I think such views are naive idealism. There is a political
reality that would come about as a result of such a change, one at the
highest level, that need to be understood and addressed. I do not even
believe that this is a discussion that should occur at the community level.
This is a discussion that should occur at the board level.

A former Wikimedian in Residence was recently blocked for constant
copyright violations on the English Wikipedia. I do not want such people
voting on a body which will determine their level of monetary and
non-monetary support---especially now that the requirements for
incorporation as a user-group are dipping still lower.

On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 12:11 PM, Marc A. Pelletier 
wrote:

> On 15-04-22 11:54 AM, Sydney Poore wrote:
> > I fully support allowing our talented and dedicated WMF staff to have the
> > opportunity to choose the people who guide the direction of the WMF.
>
> I'd like to add to this that the (pretty small) set of staffers that
> would not otherwise have had eligibility to vote are generally in
> administrative, finance and legal positions - all of which bring other
> perspectives to evaluation of the candidates that may be valuable.
>
> But, more importantly, they share our values and commitment to the
> ideals behind the movement.  They wouldn't be working at the Foundation
> if they didn't because our internal culture is - literally - all about
> the mission.
>
> Disclaimer: I'm staff myself, but eligible to vote as a volunteer.
>
> -- Marc
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Design of BoT election banner

[Aleksey Bilogur]

Looks fine to me.

On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Szymon Grabarczuk <
tar.locesil...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I must agree with that. I've received clearly negative feedback from
> several volunteers.
>
> On 22 April 2015 at 13:18, Amir Ladsgroup  wrote:
>
> > It's horribly ugly, I expected more.
> >
> > I don't want to de-value someone's work (a person or persons that I don't
> > know) but we had way better designs before.
> >
> >
> > Best
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

[Aleksey Bilogur]

My two cents: no, no, no, absolutely not, by all means no, never.

I am strongly, strongly, strongly opposed to such a move. The chapters
already elect two members of the Board, and that's quite enough. When it
comes to matters concerning strategic direction chapters are the movement
equivalent of a political interest group. The Board is the entity
ultimately responsible for the funding reigns, and I strongly suspect that
such a move, *especially given the weakness of community response in
elections*, would immediately result in an influx of "chapter junkies" who
will vote as a nearly-united political bloc for whatever candidate promises
a freer flow of money.

The ramifications would be immediate. This is absolutely the wrongest
possible direction to go in.


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> I think this is definitely worthy of discussion and I agree that either all
> employees of WMF affiliates should be permitted to vote or employee status
> should be removed as an element of eligibility. Hopefully the board and its
> electioneers will weigh in with their opinions.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] 50 months in GLAM & search for volunteers to reach out to undiscovered countries

[Aleksey Bilogur]

Hi Romaine, can you give us a few more pointers on what you want in terms
of a logo? I might be able to help you with that.

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Romaine Wiki 
wrote:

> Hello all!
>
> Every month the newsletter *This Month in GLAM
> * is published in
> what various chapters, volunteers, users and GLAMs write about stories and
> experiences in what galleries, libraries, archives, museums, and various
> other institutions and organisations work together with Wikipedia/Wikimedia
> or open up their collections or data and release them to the public domain
> or under a free license.
>
> A lot of those stories and experiences are described in the newsletter, but
> those originate mostly from North America and Europe, while the newsletter
> is intended to give an overview of GLAM stories from all over the world, as
> all of them are worth telling and sharing. How can we reach out more to
> Africa, Asia and South America?
>
> Therefore I am looking for volunteers who can help me/us with contacting
> chapters, GLAM organisers, Wikipedians in Residence, and others who are
> willing to share their stories and and experiences. Who wants to help
> reaching out?
>
> How can you help?
>
>- Inform chapters and volunteers about the existence of the monthly
>newsletter.
>- Contact GLAM organisers and ask them to write a report about their
>activities.
>- Search for releases as open data or releases of text or media under a
> free
>license  and write about
>them.
>- Write about your experiences in organising offline activities and
>collaborations with other organisations.
>- Communicate about the newsletter, share it with your colleagues, with
>other volunteers and inform GLAMs about the existence of the newsletter
>where they can read about what other organisations do.
>
> Who wants to help out?
>
> If you want to help, you can start right away.
>
>
> Since today we also have a section for Wikidata & GLAMs. The first edition
> of this report will published in the coming newsletter and you can add more
> information at
>
> https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/April_2015/Contents/Wikidata_report
>
>
> I am also happy to say that the newsletter *This Month in GLAM* has been
> published 50 times!
> Congratulations all!
> Since December 2010 Rock drum published a monthly newsletter what I took
> over from him in November 2012. We have maintained the newsletter, but we
> couldn't do this without the Wikimedia community who has written the
> contents of the newsletter. So, thank you all for writing and I hope you
> will continue to share your experiences and stories with the next 50
> editions!
>
> As the newsletter is no fifty editions young, I think this is a good moment
> to start with a new logo. The new logo should look more like the general
> GLAM WIKI logo style:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:GLAM-WIKI.png
> I am looking for someone who can help me with making a new logo that has a
> similar style as GLAM-WIKI. Who can help me?
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Romaine
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright status of the mobile application button icons?

[Aleksey Bilogur]

Thanks for the help, all.

On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Dan Garry  wrote:

> On 18 April 2015 at 13:27, Ricordisamoa 
> wrote:
> >
> > IANAL, but I know for sure that trademark status and copyright status are
> > different things. And this thread is definitely asking for the latter...
>
>
> Well, I've given the answer to both questions now. Is there some other
> question you need help with?
>
> Dan
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright status of the mobile application button icons?

[Aleksey Bilogur]

I want to use it to illustrate something I'm building in the Wikipedia
domain on the en-wiki, so I'd like to know this for sure. Who's a good
person to ask; or, will they come here instead? :)

I thought that WMF logos can be used freely within the projects, however
that's arranged legally, and thought it was strange that this would be an
exception.

On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Dan Garry  wrote:

> I doubt this logo crosses the originality threshold. The logo is probably
> public domain. That said, it's definitely a trademark of the Wikimedia
> Foundation, and should be marked as such.
>
> Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. :-)
>
> Dan
>
> On 18 April 2015 at 08:42, Aleksey Bilogur 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello, what is the copyright status of the application icon for Wikipedia
> > mobile applications? This one, specifically, as far as I can tell:
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WikipediaMobileAppLogo.png
> >
> > The copyright information lists it as being fair use, but that seems
> > strange to me; is this actually correct?
> >
> > Apologies for not sending this to mobile-l, my message there was
> > auto-bounced and I don't want to go through the subscription process just
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[Wikimedia-l] Copyright status of the mobile application button icons?

[Aleksey Bilogur]

Hello, what is the copyright status of the application icon for Wikipedia
mobile applications? This one, specifically, as far as I can tell:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WikipediaMobileAppLogo.png

The copyright information lists it as being fair use, but that seems
strange to me; is this actually correct?

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auto-bounced and I don't want to go through the subscription process just
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to find the Wikimedia Commons Android App form Google Play? (Mohammed BAchounda)

[Aleksey Bilogur]

Just to be sure, I don't have any ill will against Yuvi, I'm just highly
surprised that the staff problem is apparently bad enough that the mobile
team is killing their own secondaries, even though mobile is one of the WMF
' S developmental foci.
On Apr 16, 2015 12:52 PM, "Pine W"  wrote:

> In defense of Yuvi, he is routinely extinguishing metaphorical fires and
> hunting gremlins in Tool Labs. He may just be overtasked at the moment. I
> suggest that you email him a reminder.
>
> Pine
> On Apr 16, 2015 3:44 AM, "Aleksey Bilogur" 
> wrote:
>
> > Hmm. I was annoyed at Yuvi a couple of weeks ago because he promised he'd
> > get back to me on repairing the Wikipedia Signpost app but we never got
> the
> > call back. But apparently the WMF lacks the technical resources to
> > systematically maintain its own side-projects---let alone the hobby work
> of
> > its developers. This is disappointing...
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Quim Gil  wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Mohammed Bachounda <
> > bachou...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > You can find the application at Github
> > > > https://github.com/wikimedia/apps-android-commons
> > >
> > >
> > > It was pulled from the stores because of lack of maintenance and
> > resources.
> > > More information at
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Commons
> > > and
> > >
> >
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2014-September/007974.html
> > > (plus following emails).
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to find the Wikimedia Commons Android App form Google Play? (Mohammed BAchounda)

[Aleksey Bilogur]

Hmm. I was annoyed at Yuvi a couple of weeks ago because he promised he'd
get back to me on repairing the Wikipedia Signpost app but we never got the
call back. But apparently the WMF lacks the technical resources to
systematically maintain its own side-projects---let alone the hobby work of
its developers. This is disappointing...

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Quim Gil  wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Mohammed Bachounda 
> wrote:
>
> > You can find the application at Github
> > https://github.com/wikimedia/apps-android-commons
>
>
> It was pulled from the stores because of lack of maintenance and resources.
> More information at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Commons
> and
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2014-September/007974.html
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] My article on Wikipedia Zero and Net Neutrality, just out today at Reason.com

[Aleksey Bilogur]

This was an interesting read; I do hope I will one day get to speak to you
at length on these topics.

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 8:07 AM, Mike Godwin  wrote:

> People who are interested in the history of my views on network
> neutrality may find fodder here in this 2006 article I wrote on behalf
> of the American Library Association.
>
>
> http://www.ala.org/offices/sites/ala.org.offices/files/content/oitp/publications/issuebriefs/A%20Library%20Perspectiv.pdf
>
> To the extent my views have evolved since them (and I'm inclined to
> say they haven't changed much), this is due partly to my years of work
> for Wikimedia Foundation and partly to my work on internet policy in
> the developing world.
>
> See, for example, how I dealt with the issue in developing the Great
> Charter for Cambodian Internet Freedom.
>
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/great-charter-cambodian-internet-freedom-mike-godwin
> .
>
>
> --Mike
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 5:35 AM, geni  wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 9 April 2015 at 00:51, Mike Godwin  wrote:
> >>
> >> http://reason.com/archives/2015/04/08/nothing-but-net
> >>
> >>
> >> --Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm not convinced you are helping your case with your choice of venue.
> >
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editing Wikipedia for school community service hours

[Aleksey Bilogur]

If editing Wikipedia counted as community service my school ought to start
handing me plaques.

Alas, it does not, for a host of legitimate reasons as I see it, ranging
from academic uncertainty about the usefulness of doing so when it comes to
community impact, to the sheer difficulty of actually measuring. More
meaningful (and, in the spirit of things, selfless) to volunteer at a local
Wikipedia editing event then to sit back in an armchair and do the whole
first-world-netizen-at-a-computer thing.

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Pine W  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Many schools in the United States encourage or require students to perform
> community service hours, such as by cleaning up parks, caring for the
> disabled, or tutoring younger students. Sometimes more specialized
> requirements apply, such as university schools of education or health which
> may require experience that is applicable to a student's desired
> coursework. Contributing to Wikimedia is one form of accepted community
> service in a multi-campus Mexican university, and the practice seems to be
> gaining momentum (see
> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/04/13/wiki-learning-edit-a-thon-mexico/).
>
> These community service programs are different from in-class assignments
> that require Wikipedia editing. Wikipedia can  benefit from both kinds of
> activities.
>
> I am wondering, have other Wikimedia affiliates had success with
> encouraging students to complete community service requirements by
> contributing to Wikimedia? I am thinking that here in Cascadia, we might
> encourage schools to allow this option, and other affiliates also might
> want to explore this possibility.
>
> Thanks,
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF office location and remodel

[Aleksey Bilogur]

A logistical non-starter! They've got 200+ staff members, any gains to
recruitment competitiveness will be quickly lost to the drain that losing
whatever significant percent of the staff that doesn't make the move incurs
on the organization.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Ask questions, give feedback on six annual plan grant proposals for the FDC!

[Aleksey Bilogur]

APGs are the way that chapters and thorgs request funding from the
Wikimedia Foundation. Usergroups are ineligible. See for instance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-10-23/News_and_notes

On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 12:09 AM, MZMcBride  wrote:

> Katy Love wrote:
> >tl;dr:[0] Please join the community review for six annual plan grant
> >proposals requesting USD $1.5 million in movement funds. Add your
> >questions
> >and comments to the proposals until April 30!
> >
> >Hello Wikimedians,
> >
> >Round 2 of the Annual Plan Grants program [1] is underway, and the
> >Community Review process is open for your comments and questions. In this
> >round, six proposals were submitted to the Funds Dissemination Committee,
> >by the Centre for Internet and Society, Wikimedia Armenia, Wikimédia
> >France, Wikimedia Italia, Wikimedia Norge, and Wikimedia ZA -- with total
> >requests of USD $1,531,687. [2] These six proposals, developed based on
> >the organizations' annual plans, include programmatic and operational
> >costs, and are requests for general funding.
>
> Hi.
>
> I've looked through some of this briefly and I'm still unclear what an
> annual plan grant is, exactly.
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG and your e-mail directed me to
> , but I'm still
> not totally sure I get it. Are annual plan grants open to anyone or just
> affiliated groups?
>
> I took a look at this page:
> .
>
> It seems like annual plan grants are (mostly?) for certain types of
> Wikimedia chapters? Are the grants considered one-time or recurring?
> Perhaps more specifically: how are the funds distributed throughout a
> year? I also thought annual plan grant might mean that the money is
> specifically intended to fund annual plans of other organizations, but I'm
> struggling to find a clear definition on Meta-Wiki at the moment.
>
> MZMcBride
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Request

[Aleksey Bilogur]

Is that not the function of the mailing list? I'm certainly learning a lot.
I oppose such a move.
On Apr 5, 2015 2:36 PM, "Pete Forsyth"  wrote:

> There has been a protracted thread in the last couple of days that seems to
> amount to an escalating ego battle among 2-3 participants. I could be
> wrong, but I don't think this has much interest beyond those 2-3
> individuals.
>
> I'd like to request that the participants or the list moderators take steps
> to move this discussion off list.
> Pete
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] New Wikimedia Foundation report on activities in 2014

[Aleksey Bilogur]

Still, in my assessment it is lacking on concrete details. There are many
terms that are coined and movements cited which are not definitively
explained, in some cases with hints that the departments doing the
reporting have not themselves yet arrived at precise meaning. I suppose
that, like the entree to the the full-course meal, this is the limitation
to the medium: something to digest ahead of the full-course annual plan. An
overall sense is one of transition.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 8:19 PM, Risker  wrote:

> On 2 April 2015 at 17:48, Andreas Kolbe  wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Katherine Maher 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Today the Wikimedia Foundation published a report on its activities in
> > > calendar year 2014. [...]
> > >
> > > Although the information in the report was originally gathered in
> > response
> > > to an internal Foundation need, we planned to make it public as a
> report
> > > from the very beginning. It is intended to be relatively candid,
> sharing
> > > insight into where teams feel they have strengths and where they feel
> > there
> > > are development areas. [...]
> > >
> > > We hope you find it interesting, and welcome your feedback.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Katherine
> > >
> > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_men_and_an_elephant
> > > [2] Thanks to everyone at the Foundation who contributed so much great
> > > information to their various teams sections. And a special thanks to
> > Juliet
> > > Barbara and Heather Walls who wrote and produced the whole thing!
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Thanks. This looks indeed like a candid report. If it's an indication of
> a
> > change in communication style, I like it.
> >
> > Good to have it available on Meta as well as in pdf format (I think the
> pdf
> > is very nicely done).
> >
> >
>
> I agree, pretty much.  This is probably the best 'big picture" look at the
> WMF I have seen:  accomplishments, plans, honest assessments of
> challenges.  Thanks very much!
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Not all pixels are created equals: introducing brand new Wikimedia France's metrics

[Aleksey Bilogur]

I love today.
On Apr 1, 2015 5:28 PM, "quiddity"  wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Marc A. Pelletier 
> wrote:
> > On 15-04-01 03:58 PM, Pierre-Selim wrote:
> >> This is only the beginning: next step is the measurement of cute pixels,
> >> encyclopedic pixels and amazing pixels.
> >
> > That metric is all wrong, because it presumes that all pixels are
> > equally valuable.  Surely, you should be also assigning weights to
> > pixels depending on how much information they carry - background pixels
> > out of the FOV aren't worth as much!
> >
>
> I assume you mean "assigning *mass*" to the pixels. Weight is so
> Earth-centric!
>
> I would like to join the kawaii-pixel WikiProject. Please let me know
> when we start debating the relative merits of various color models,
> and naming conventions, and kawaii-challenged accessibility tools.
> Thanks!
>
> -- quiddity
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing Kourosh Karimkhany, Vice President of Strategic Partnerships

[Aleksey Bilogur]

Er, Mike, this is a minor point but your signature seems to indicate that
you were general counsel for over a millennium---very impressive!

Personally I think that Zero should be evaluated from an impact
perspective. While it's indisputable that it's strategically aligned with
the WMF mission, if the message isn't reaching the audience is strategic
alignment a good enough argument to keep chugging? The Foundation has taken
a lot of flak for taking stances like that---totally strategically aligned,
sure, but nil for impact. Seems to me that in its current form it's just
going to drag along---Zero either needs a clear procedural rethink or it
needs to be would down.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:05 AM, Mike Godwin  wrote:

> GerardM writes:
>
> > With Wikipedia Zero people have access to knowledge that they would not
> > have otherwise. It is well established that having information readily
> > available is an important indicator for further development. Not having
> > Wikipedia available is absolutely a worse situation than having it.
> >
> > [...]
> > My answer is sure HOWEVER given that the objective of Wikipedia is to
> share
> > in the sum of all knowledge, your argument is decidedly secondary.
> Sources
> > may be important but they are secondary to having the information
> available
> > in the first place. As long as we have sources in full blown Wikipedia,
> as
> > long as it is WMF that provides the Wikipedia Zero content... what is
> your
> > point. Yes, ideally we want people to ensure that people know about
> > sources. When sources are just statements of fact and they are in turn
> not
> > accessible because of cost. What is your point in practical terms?
> >
> > Wikipedia Zero is very much a fulfillment of our aspirations. Do not
> forget
> > who you are: white, privileged and well educated. What you propose is
> > taking away something that you take for granted. Not nice.
>
> I agree with everything Gerard says here. My mission as a Wikimedian,
> both during my tenure as an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation and
> in my time as a volunteer Wikimedian, has been to get the world's
> knowledge into everybody's hands for free. Wikipedia Zero is so
> consistent with this primary goal that I value it even more highly
> than network neutrality (which I also favor, as a general rule, in
> countries with developed and humanely priced internet services).
>
> It should be noted that the Federal Communications Commission, in its
> recent Report and Order requiring network neutrality for American
> telcos and service providers, expressly refused to draw a categorical
> conclusion whether zero-rated services (including Wikipedia Zero)
> harmed competition. Instead, the Commission said it would make
> case-by-case determinations based on the particular services each
> zero-rated service is providing. If it were shown that Wikipedia Zero
> is suppressing competition from other encyclopedic knowledge bases or
> suppressing sharing of knowledge, that would be something for the
> Commission to consider -- but of course there are no facts that
> support this argument, at least not yet.
>
> I've spent the last two years working on internet-policy issues in
> developing countries, from Myanmar to Cambodia to South Sudan, and my
> personal experience has been that Wikipedia Zero is a profoundly
> important developmental resource in developing countries, where the
> key barrier to Wikipedia access (as a user or contributor) is the data
> caps on the mobile devices that the vast majority of users need to get
> access to the internet. Wikipedia Zero gets us past that barrier in
> these countries. Yes, in an ideal world, perhaps, there might be an
> argument against privileging Wikipedia Zero in this way -- but in an
> ideal world everybody would have free access to Wikipedia already.
>
> To get to an ideal world, we'll need everyone to have access to
> Wikipedia (and to Wikimedia resources generally) -- not just those of
> us in developed countries, but to everyone everywhere. Wikipedia Zero
> is a strategic approach to expanding access for everybody in every
> country. As we do this, we'll be creating incentives for developing
> countries' telcos and internet providers to expand their access and
> facilities in ways that will enable more and more citizens to fully
> participate as users and contributors to Wikipedia. Any other approach
> reminds me of the beginning chess player who looks at a board prior to
> the first move and says "how do I get to checkmate from here?" The
> experienced chess player knows you have to make a number of strategic
> decisions and deployments in advance in order to make eventual victory
> possible.  Wikipedia Zero is one strategy that gets us to the end
> result we all want to see.
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> --Mike Godwin
> WMF General Counsel 1007-2010
> Director of Innovation Policy and General Counsel, The R Street Institute
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] function titles 'n stuff

[Aleksey Bilogur]

Lodewijk,

See the following category on the WMF site:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Category:Job_Descriptions. This
contains descriptions of all of the positions hired for since 2007-ish,
though it is definitely not necessarily reflective of the role that these
positions have in the organizational structure today.

I would agree that a refreshed organizational chart should be provided to
the community one of these days by the WMF to reflect the structural
changes under the new ED.


On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 4:49 AM, Lodewijk 
wrote:

> Hi,
> Actually, not so much a personel org chart, but rather a general
> description what the function titles mean (ED, Director, Manager, Chief,
> Head etc.), which supposedly should be much more stable and therefore
> easier to grasp? For someone not embedded in US company nomenclature this
> is all quite confusing and the general description articles on enwiki are
> not very helpful either...
>
> Lodewijk
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 12:47 AM, MZMcBride  wrote:
>
> > Lodewijk wrote:
> > >In Wikimedian spirit, i would like to take the opportunity to ask the
> > >silly question: is the structure of what all titles in Wikimedia mean,
> > >described somewhere? Because to be honest, I'm getting all confused
> about
> > >who ranks what in the structure of directors, vice presidents, chiefs,
> > >heads, managers and seniors. I was, silly me, always under the
> impression
> > >that a Vice President was basically just below the ED - on the C-level.
> > >
> > >I was looking for this info to be perhaps linked from the staff &
> > >contractors page on wmfwiki, but i don't seem to be able to find it.
> Could
> > >someone enlighten, and perhaps add it somewhere if not there yet? I
> recall
> > >having asked this question also a few years back and that a list was
> made,
> > >but I can't find it any longer...
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > I think you're talking about an org chart here. The Wikimedia Foundation
> > used to have one, but they're kind of annoying to maintain and any public
> > version basically fell apart years ago. Last I saw, it was a tool on
> Labs,
> > but it's been through several iterations. The page histories (of the
> > article and the template) on wikimediafoundation.org will have
> references
> > to it if you go back a few years.
> >
> > Re: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Template:Staff_and_contractors
> >
> > The template page includes a table of contents, which is not yet updated
> > to reflect this new department, but is still really helpful for
> > understanding the organization's structure nonetheless. Bonus: that page
> > also auto-expands the sections for faster and easier searching. Viewing
> > the template page instead of the article is a nice little hack for now.
> >
> > MZMcBride
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] IEG page on mobile

[Aleksey Bilogur]

This is true of any non-encyclopedic page in general. The mobile browser is
(correctly) optimized for encyclopedia pages, not the project pages behind
them.
On Mar 30, 2015 2:35 AM, "rupert THURNER"  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I was just wondering if any of you looked at the IEG page on a mobile
> phone:
> http://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG
>
> For me this experience looks rather broken.
>
> Best,
> Rupert
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