Re: Gregory. I did not mean incorporation in the legal sense, rather, I
meant it in the community sense, sorry for not being clear :). To clarify,
I am not opposed to lowering the barriers to entry, I am opposed to doing
both that and this, too.

I see two threads of thought here, automatically granting WMF staff voting
privileges (which I weakly oppose, largely per Asaf) and automatically
granting chapter and organization staff voting privileges (which I am
opposed to most strongly).

On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Asaf Bartov <> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Sydney Poore <>
> wrote:
> > I find the WMF staff who I interact with to be an inspiration to me with
> > their dedication to the mission to the global wikimedia movement.
> >
> So do I. :)
> > Perhaps the reason that many of them are not volunteering as on site
> > contributors is because they are too busy with a day job that is solely
> > focused on the mission of the movement.
> >
> Eh, no, that's not a valid argument.  Everybody is busy, most Wikimedians
> have day jobs or demanding schoolwork of some sort.  People manage to
> contribute to the projects if they want to.  It's a matter of
> prioritization, as always in life.  So we mustn't accept "maybe they're
> just too busy" as an excuse for why staffers purportedly "can't" edit.
> Many staffers do.  Some don't.  In both cases, it's by choice and
> preference.
> > I fully support allowing our talented and dedicated WMF staff to have the
> > opportunity to choose the people who guide the direction of the WMF.
> >
> Meeting the suffrage bar as a community member is not difficult.  Those
> (few) staffers who aren't already eligible to vote as either developers or
> content contributors, further filtered by the criterion "cares sufficiently
> to read about candidates and figure out voting" -- which I guesstimate to
> be under 20, and probably under 10 -- could have, and therefore should
> have, simply edited a bit, on any of the projects, to get suffrage.  I
> don't think there's any disenfranchisement if they don't get an automatic
> vote.
>    A.
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