Re: [Wikimedia-l] The reader, who doesn't exist

2014-08-25 Thread Delirium
On 8/25/14, 3:06 AM, MZMcBride wrote: As a metric, pageviews are probably not very meaningful. One way we can observe whether we're fulfilling our mission is to see how ubiquitous our content has become. An even better metric might be the quality of the articles we have. Anecdotal evidence

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia mobile apps

2014-06-17 Thread Delirium
On 6/16/14, 4:27 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: As Sage notes, the functionality of the new apps is about the same on both Android and iOS, with some differences in the UI. Is there something written on the intended relationship between the apps and the mobile website? I've long been mildly confused

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The tragedy of Commons

2014-06-17 Thread Delirium
On 6/17/14, 5:52 PM, George William Herbert wrote: On Jun 17, 2014, at 8:37 AM, Emmanuel Engelhart wrote: On 17.06.2014 17:26, George William Herbert wrote: We need an Uncommons, where the strict open license / PD rules are abandoned and we accept images as long as their

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA

2014-02-28 Thread Delirium
On 2/28/14, 9:18 AM, David Gerard wrote: On 28 February 2014 01:23, geni wrote: On 27 February 2014 22:03, Galileo Vidoni wrote: And we remain convinced that there is space for a way more prudent implementation of URAA that prevents deleting educational

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Wikipedia Gap

2013-12-10 Thread Delirium
In terms of specific articles to create, there is also That project collects articles that exist in wide range of other encyclopedias, but don't yet exist on Wikipedia. However that's not covering quite the same

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Which Wikipedias have had large scale bot creation of articles this year?

2013-11-28 Thread Delirium
On 11/27/13 2:01 PM, Fæ wrote: As well as finding out where this has happened, it would be good to have some cases of where bots went bad explained. My main concern would be leaving a bot to create thousands of articles but in the process creating a headache for limited numbers of maintainers,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] letter from the FDC to the WMF

2013-10-23 Thread Delirium
On 10/23/13 2:08 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Theo10011, 23/10/2013 00:21: I'm quite surprised to constantly read FDC is somehow representative of the larger community and accountable to them. Almost all the current members were part of chapter leadership and have been quite active within

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [WikiEN-l] access to journals

2013-09-25 Thread Delirium
On 9/24/13 10:13 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 24 September 2013 14:06, Liam Wyatt wrote: I'm now working for the National Library of Australia and we offer free, at home, access to JSTOR and MANY other restricted access databases to any Australian, if they get a free library

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia and the politics of encryption

2013-09-03 Thread Delirium
On 9/3/13 4:28 PM, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: On 09/03/2013 09:45 AM, Fred Bauder wrote: Abusive nonsense does not make that fact go away. Someone, actually, many someones, need to be trusted. Доверяй, но проверяй. I agree with your assessment of the risks of working with the PRC, I simply

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikidata Stubs: Threat or Menace?

2013-04-26 Thread Delirium
This is a very interesting proposal. I think how well it will work may vary considerably based on the language. The strongest case in favor of machine-generating stubs, imo, is in languages where there are many monolingual speakers and the Wikipedia is already quite large and active. In that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transparency about Wikimania costs

2012-10-12 Thread Delirium
On 10/12/12 12:40 AM, Itzik Edri wrote: Just want to inform that WMIL published Wikimania 2011 budget breakdown: Thanks for the information; it's quite useful to see these kinds of things. Two minor questions about the numbers. I don't see

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-17 Thread Delirium
On 8/17/12 12:02 PM, Magnus Manske wrote: This is quite nice, especially on a larger screen! Our current layout, which uses the full browser width for text, makes articles hard to read and cluttered-looking on larger screens. The text

Re: [Wikimedia-l] This afternoon's system outage

2012-08-06 Thread Delirium
On 8/6/12 4:52 PM, WereSpielChequers wrote: Hi, after crashing an hour or so ago EN Wikipedia has started to come back but with a really strange appearance - less usable than Vector. It's back to normal for me now. Afaict, the servers hosting the static CSS/JS came back up later than the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is there an agreement between GoldenMap and the Wikipedia for the use of Wikipedia content?

2012-08-03 Thread Delirium
It looks like a direct scrape, even to the extent of having some internal links being broken because they didn't update them (e.g. the link to Wikimedia Commons at the end of the article). I believe it's just one of the (many) unauthorized mirrors that don't properly credit the source of their

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI+ certification proposal

2012-08-01 Thread Delirium
On 8/1/12 1:51 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Yann Forget, 01/08/2012 13:13: I have suggested some basic rules about this on the French WP, but not only they were blankly rejected, but I was barred from mentioning the whole subject. The first step against CoI is making the editors conscious

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

2012-07-14 Thread Delirium
On 7/14/12 7:05 PM, Audrey Abeyta wrote: Appearance does affect perceptions of credibility, which should be of interest to Wikipedia. Recently, I was talking to someone who doubted Wikipedia's validity. When I asked her if it was because the content can be edited by anyone, she replied, No, it's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] crazy deletionists!

2012-07-04 Thread Delirium
On 7/4/12 1:04 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: What would a Wikipedia look like that did not make use of press sources? It would look a hell of a lot more like an encyclopedia. Thousands of silly arguments would never arise. Thousands of apposite criticisms of Wikipedia would never arise. These are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Language links and double language links on the Wikipedias

2012-06-25 Thread Delirium
Thanks for this list. For the languages I know, I've started going through and fixing ones that are clearly wrong. If a number of people do that, that should improve the general quality/consistency of interwiki links. I second the other comment that it'd be nice if the parsing could be re-run