On 2/28/14, 9:18 AM, David Gerard wrote:
On 28 February 2014 01:23, geni <geni...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 27 February 2014 22:03, Galileo Vidoni <gali...@gmail.com> wrote:
And we remain convinced that there is space for a way more prudent
implementation of URAA that prevents deleting educational resources until
there is complete copyright information and no legal alternative, which to
our understanding (and to our interpretation of WMF's communications) can
mean waiting for DMCA takedown notices.
We could do that but it pretty much removes commons only advantage over say
imgur or flickr. We want the images on commons to be free. Not simply stuff
no one has got around to complaining about yet,
This supports what I noted: Commons increasingly just can't be relied
upon as a repository for the other Wikimedia projects.
This implies no bad faith or bad actions on the part of the Commons
community. (But that that's a distinct thing from the Wikimedia
community is a lot of the problem.) Nor that what Commons *is* is
inherently problematic; but what it is is less and less useful inside
Wikimedia.
But the other Wikimedia projects are *also* supposed to share that goal:
of producing a Free-as-in-freedom encyclopedia whose contents can be
safely reused and adapted by a wide range of other people and
organizations, who should be able to assume that it is legal to do so
without exhaustive case-by-case investigation. The movement's main job
is not merely hosting the websites *.wikipedia.org, putting up whatever
we find useful to put up, and taking down things when we get complaints
or lawsuits.
What level of scrutiny we want to apply is indeed a judgment call, so
and I don't know if the current URAA policy falls on the right or wrong
side of that (I haven't investigated it). But I don't think the
fundamental goals are different. And if they are, it's the other
projects that are in the wrong: *not* having a free, reusable body of
content as the project goal is fundamentally incompatible with the
Wikimedia Movement. We want the content on all Wikimedia wikis to be
free-as-in-freedom and reusable by anyone. That's the point.
-Mark
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