Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection Policy

[Martijn Hoekstra]

On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Wil Sinclair  wrote:

> > Then stick to
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk
> >
> > Straight "What is the policy on X" questions aren't really the purpose of
> > this mailing list.
> >
> > --
> > geni
>
> Thanks for the advice; that's exactly the kind of thing a newbie like
> me could use. Also, thanks for the link; I'll read through that page.
> I've gotten a lot of great information here, so I'd prefer to keep
> this thread open if anyone else has anything to contribute.
>
> ,Wil
>

We don't really have a process for "closing" threads. Any thread will
always be open as long as anyone wants to contribute anything.

--Martijn

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection Policy

[Wil Sinclair]

> Then stick to
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk
>
> Straight "What is the policy on X" questions aren't really the purpose of
> this mailing list.
>
> --
> geni

Thanks for the advice; that's exactly the kind of thing a newbie like
me could use. Also, thanks for the link; I'll read through that page.
I've gotten a lot of great information here, so I'd prefer to keep
this thread open if anyone else has anything to contribute.

,Wil

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection Policy

[geni]

On 23 May 2014 19:49, Wil Sinclair  wrote:

>
> People can obviously discuss whether the policies are optimal and/or
> sufficient, but I'm just asking what the current policies are.
>

Then stick to

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk

Straight "What is the policy on X" questions aren't really the purpose of
this mailing list.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection Policy

[Wil Sinclair]

> Wil, no need to apologize -- nobody accused you of doing anything wrong,
> just pointed out the likely consequences of certain approaches. But I do
> think it's very likely that, given your strong connection to the Wikimedia
> Foundation, your choice to engage extensively at the Wikipediaocracy site
> will continue to generate a great deal of interest and curiosity.You may
> consider yourself a newbie, but you also have higher than normal access to
> information about Wikimedia, and -- like it or not -- your actions will
> surely be received by some as providing a window into how the Wikimedia
> Foundation is building its understanding of its community.
>
> Pete
> [[User:Peteforsyth]] on English Wikipedia etc.

I'd love to explain why I participate on Wikipediocracy, as well as on
the Wikimedia projects. I've already explained it to the WO folks. If
you guys are interested, feel free to start another thread asking me
about it. It's OT for this thread, however.

,Wil

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection Policy

[Pete Forsyth]

On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Wil Sinclair  wrote:

> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Fæ  wrote:
>


> > If you intend to focus discussion in one place, rather than on
> > multiple projects, email lists and on non-wikimedia managed websites
> > at the same time, then meta would probably be a sensible place to
> > summarize or ask for a community consensus. As has been explained,
> > this has been done before, and one learning point was that by having
> > multiple channels, drama or even excitement may be created, but any
> > potentially good ideas for improvement are *far* more likely to drain
> > away in the sand and result in continued general dissatisfaction and
> > frustration.
>
> People can obviously discuss whether the policies are optimal and/or
> sufficient, but I'm just asking what the current policies are. Since I
> started the discussion here and no one seems interested in drama, it
> sounds like the thread should be continued here. Sorry if I didn't
> post to the most appropriate list; I'm a newbie.
>
> Wil, no need to apologize -- nobody accused you of doing anything wrong,
just pointed out the likely consequences of certain approaches. But I do
think it's very likely that, given your strong connection to the Wikimedia
Foundation, your choice to engage extensively at the Wikipediaocracy site
will continue to generate a great deal of interest and curiosity.You may
consider yourself a newbie, but you also have higher than normal access to
information about Wikimedia, and -- like it or not -- your actions will
surely be received by some as providing a window into how the Wikimedia
Foundation is building its understanding of its community.

Pete
[[User:Peteforsyth]] on English Wikipedia etc.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection Policy

[Wil Sinclair]

On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Fæ  wrote:
> On 23 May 2014 19:23, Wil Sinclair  wrote:
>> Is it correct that each project/subdomain of Wikipedia and Wikimedia
>> has its own, potentially unique Child Protection Policy?
>
> No. The meta policy at
> 
> applies to all projects and so where a local policy may exist, it must
> implement the meta policy.

Thanks for the link.

> If you intend to focus discussion in one place, rather than on
> multiple projects, email lists and on non-wikimedia managed websites
> at the same time, then meta would probably be a sensible place to
> summarize or ask for a community consensus. As has been explained,
> this has been done before, and one learning point was that by having
> multiple channels, drama or even excitement may be created, but any
> potentially good ideas for improvement are *far* more likely to drain
> away in the sand and result in continued general dissatisfaction and
> frustration.

People can obviously discuss whether the policies are optimal and/or
sufficient, but I'm just asking what the current policies are. Since I
started the discussion here and no one seems interested in drama, it
sounds like the thread should be continued here. Sorry if I didn't
post to the most appropriate list; I'm a newbie.

,Wil

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection Policy

[Fæ]

On 23 May 2014 19:23, Wil Sinclair  wrote:
> Is it correct that each project/subdomain of Wikipedia and Wikimedia
> has its own, potentially unique Child Protection Policy?

No. The meta policy at

applies to all projects and so where a local policy may exist, it must
implement the meta policy.

> How many of those policies are marked as "Proposed"?

It varies by project, where they exist.

> Are the "Proposed" policies enforced?

No. Some may be in effect due to the existence of prior policies and
working practices, often to comply with legal requirements.

> Are there projects/subdomains of Wikipedia and Wikimedia that have no
> Child Protection Policy at all?

No. The policy at meta applies across all projects.

If you intend to focus discussion in one place, rather than on
multiple projects, email lists and on non-wikimedia managed websites
at the same time, then meta would probably be a sensible place to
summarize or ask for a community consensus. As has been explained,
this has been done before, and one learning point was that by having
multiple channels, drama or even excitement may be created, but any
potentially good ideas for improvement are *far* more likely to drain
away in the sand and result in continued general dissatisfaction and
frustration.

Fae
-- 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection Policy

[Martijn Hoekstra]

On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Wil Sinclair  wrote:

> This is really helpful.
>
> To clarify:
>
> Is it correct that each project/subdomain of Wikipedia and Wikimedia
> has its own, potentially unique Child Protection Policy?
> How many of those policies are marked as "Proposed"?
> Are the "Proposed" policies enforced?
> Are there projects/subdomains of Wikipedia and Wikimedia that have no
> Child Protection Policy at all?
>
> I'll follow up on the issue of harassment policy in another thread,
> since it seems like Child Protection Policy has been addressed
> specifically with its own policies.
>
> Thanks, all!
> ,Wil
>

Hi Will,

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Policies_and_guidelines for how
policies on Wikipedia "work". The Terms of Service Federico pointed at are
probably "different", but I don't know how different.

--Martijn

>
> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Andrew Gray 
> wrote:
> > I suppose the caveat would be that what actually happens may be
> > *broader* than the policy suggests, if anything (eg deleting personal
> > information on a pre-emptive basis)
> >
> > On the English Wikipedia, see also
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Protecting_children%27s_privacy
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Guidance_for_younger_editors
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Advice_for_parents
> >
> > In addition to the English Wikipedia policy, note that there's
> > versions on four other wikis, as well. Catalan notes that theirs was
> > "adaptat de l'anglesa i de Commons", so probably close in general
> > content, and judging by the dates on them I suspect the others had a
> > similar source, but you may want to check this.
> >
> > The Commons policy is at:
> >
> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Child_protection
> >
> > - also adapted from enwiki but marked as 'proposed'.
> >
> > There's a policy also marked as "proposed" on meta, dating from 2010;
> > however, as it quotes the terms of service, I think we can reasonably
> > conclude that the content does have the force of policy despite this
> > tag :-)
> >
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Child_protection
> >
> > The Wikimedia-wide terms of use were formally codified in 2012 (there
> > had been ToU before then, but they mostly dealt with copyright issues)
> > and do include relevant material in Section 4. But I know this has
> > been a topic raised on many occasions well before 2010-2012...
> >
> > Andrew.
> >
> > On 23 May 2014 18:34, George William Herbert 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On May 23, 2014, at 10:09 AM, Risker  wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 23 May 2014 13:05, Wil Sinclair  wrote:
> >>>
>  Is the following a full statement of Wikipedia's Child Protection
>  Policy, reflecting all responsibilities that the Wikipedia community
>  and the Wikimedia Foundation have taken on to protect children in all
>  of the projects they are involved with and/or sponsor?
> 
>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Child_protection
> 
>  Are there any other *published* policies of WP or the WMF pertaining
>  to child protection that I might have missed?
> 
>  I know that this is a very politically charged issue in the WP
>  community. I'd appreciate a high light:heat ratio if anyone has
>  comments beyond links to current policy statements.
> 
>  Thanks!
>  ,Wil
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> English Wikipedia policy:
> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Child_protection
> >>>
> >>> The existence of a 'formalized' policy has been a topic of heated
> debate
> >>> since its creation, although there is some truth that its original form
> >>> more or less documented existing practice at the time.
> >>>
> >>> Risker/Anne
> >>
> >> Right.
> >>
> >> I can guarantee you that the policy more or less as written will be
> implemented by most senior experienced admins.  It documented existing very
> poorly publicized informal practice in that regard.
> >>
> >> There is and has been much controversy as to whether it's good, fair,
> reasonable, appropriate.
> >>
> >> As with the responding to threats of harm essay (originally responding
> to threats of suicide, now expanded), there were considerable theory based
> top down discussions that did not resolve, followed by someone documenting
> what was actually being done most of the time and that settling is as
> precedent.
> >>
> >> This is perhaps not the best process.  However, even in the absence of
> total community support on these issues, admins and arbcom and senior
> community members will act to protect individual people and the community
> and encyclopedia and foundation.  It seems to be agreed that documenting
> usual parameters for that, so people understand the usual responses, was a
> net positive.
> >>
> >>
> >> -george william herbert
> >> george.herb...@gmail.com
> >>
> >> Sent from Kangphone
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection Policy

[Wil Sinclair]

This is really helpful.

To clarify:

Is it correct that each project/subdomain of Wikipedia and Wikimedia
has its own, potentially unique Child Protection Policy?
How many of those policies are marked as "Proposed"?
Are the "Proposed" policies enforced?
Are there projects/subdomains of Wikipedia and Wikimedia that have no
Child Protection Policy at all?

I'll follow up on the issue of harassment policy in another thread,
since it seems like Child Protection Policy has been addressed
specifically with its own policies.

Thanks, all!
,Wil

On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Andrew Gray  wrote:
> I suppose the caveat would be that what actually happens may be
> *broader* than the policy suggests, if anything (eg deleting personal
> information on a pre-emptive basis)
>
> On the English Wikipedia, see also
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Protecting_children%27s_privacy
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Guidance_for_younger_editors
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Advice_for_parents
>
> In addition to the English Wikipedia policy, note that there's
> versions on four other wikis, as well. Catalan notes that theirs was
> "adaptat de l'anglesa i de Commons", so probably close in general
> content, and judging by the dates on them I suspect the others had a
> similar source, but you may want to check this.
>
> The Commons policy is at:
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Child_protection
>
> - also adapted from enwiki but marked as 'proposed'.
>
> There's a policy also marked as "proposed" on meta, dating from 2010;
> however, as it quotes the terms of service, I think we can reasonably
> conclude that the content does have the force of policy despite this
> tag :-)
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Child_protection
>
> The Wikimedia-wide terms of use were formally codified in 2012 (there
> had been ToU before then, but they mostly dealt with copyright issues)
> and do include relevant material in Section 4. But I know this has
> been a topic raised on many occasions well before 2010-2012...
>
> Andrew.
>
> On 23 May 2014 18:34, George William Herbert  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 23, 2014, at 10:09 AM, Risker  wrote:
>>
>>> On 23 May 2014 13:05, Wil Sinclair  wrote:
>>>
 Is the following a full statement of Wikipedia's Child Protection
 Policy, reflecting all responsibilities that the Wikipedia community
 and the Wikimedia Foundation have taken on to protect children in all
 of the projects they are involved with and/or sponsor?

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Child_protection

 Are there any other *published* policies of WP or the WMF pertaining
 to child protection that I might have missed?

 I know that this is a very politically charged issue in the WP
 community. I'd appreciate a high light:heat ratio if anyone has
 comments beyond links to current policy statements.

 Thanks!
 ,Wil
>>>
>>>
>>> English Wikipedia policy:
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Child_protection
>>>
>>> The existence of a 'formalized' policy has been a topic of heated debate
>>> since its creation, although there is some truth that its original form
>>> more or less documented existing practice at the time.
>>>
>>> Risker/Anne
>>
>> Right.
>>
>> I can guarantee you that the policy more or less as written will be 
>> implemented by most senior experienced admins.  It documented existing very 
>> poorly publicized informal practice in that regard.
>>
>> There is and has been much controversy as to whether it's good, fair, 
>> reasonable, appropriate.
>>
>> As with the responding to threats of harm essay (originally responding to 
>> threats of suicide, now expanded), there were considerable theory based top 
>> down discussions that did not resolve, followed by someone documenting what 
>> was actually being done most of the time and that settling is as precedent.
>>
>> This is perhaps not the best process.  However, even in the absence of total 
>> community support on these issues, admins and arbcom and senior community 
>> members will act to protect individual people and the community and 
>> encyclopedia and foundation.  It seems to be agreed that documenting usual 
>> parameters for that, so people understand the usual responses, was a net 
>> positive.
>>
>>
>> -george william herbert
>> george.herb...@gmail.com
>>
>> Sent from Kangphone
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection Policy

[Federico Leva (Nemo)]

Wil Sinclair, 23/05/2014 19:05:

Is the following a full statement


No. You're looking for: 
 
(first two and last subsections).


Nemo

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection Policy

[Andrew Gray]

I suppose the caveat would be that what actually happens may be
*broader* than the policy suggests, if anything (eg deleting personal
information on a pre-emptive basis)

On the English Wikipedia, see also

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Protecting_children%27s_privacy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Guidance_for_younger_editors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Advice_for_parents

In addition to the English Wikipedia policy, note that there's
versions on four other wikis, as well. Catalan notes that theirs was
"adaptat de l'anglesa i de Commons", so probably close in general
content, and judging by the dates on them I suspect the others had a
similar source, but you may want to check this.

The Commons policy is at:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Child_protection

- also adapted from enwiki but marked as 'proposed'.

There's a policy also marked as "proposed" on meta, dating from 2010;
however, as it quotes the terms of service, I think we can reasonably
conclude that the content does have the force of policy despite this
tag :-)

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Child_protection

The Wikimedia-wide terms of use were formally codified in 2012 (there
had been ToU before then, but they mostly dealt with copyright issues)
and do include relevant material in Section 4. But I know this has
been a topic raised on many occasions well before 2010-2012...

Andrew.

On 23 May 2014 18:34, George William Herbert  wrote:
>
>
>
> On May 23, 2014, at 10:09 AM, Risker  wrote:
>
>> On 23 May 2014 13:05, Wil Sinclair  wrote:
>>
>>> Is the following a full statement of Wikipedia's Child Protection
>>> Policy, reflecting all responsibilities that the Wikipedia community
>>> and the Wikimedia Foundation have taken on to protect children in all
>>> of the projects they are involved with and/or sponsor?
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Child_protection
>>>
>>> Are there any other *published* policies of WP or the WMF pertaining
>>> to child protection that I might have missed?
>>>
>>> I know that this is a very politically charged issue in the WP
>>> community. I'd appreciate a high light:heat ratio if anyone has
>>> comments beyond links to current policy statements.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> ,Wil
>>
>>
>> English Wikipedia policy:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Child_protection
>>
>> The existence of a 'formalized' policy has been a topic of heated debate
>> since its creation, although there is some truth that its original form
>> more or less documented existing practice at the time.
>>
>> Risker/Anne
>
> Right.
>
> I can guarantee you that the policy more or less as written will be 
> implemented by most senior experienced admins.  It documented existing very 
> poorly publicized informal practice in that regard.
>
> There is and has been much controversy as to whether it's good, fair, 
> reasonable, appropriate.
>
> As with the responding to threats of harm essay (originally responding to 
> threats of suicide, now expanded), there were considerable theory based top 
> down discussions that did not resolve, followed by someone documenting what 
> was actually being done most of the time and that settling is as precedent.
>
> This is perhaps not the best process.  However, even in the absence of total 
> community support on these issues, admins and arbcom and senior community 
> members will act to protect individual people and the community and 
> encyclopedia and foundation.  It seems to be agreed that documenting usual 
> parameters for that, so people understand the usual responses, was a net 
> positive.
>
>
> -george william herbert
> george.herb...@gmail.com
>
> Sent from Kangphone
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection Policy

[Risker]

On 23 May 2014 13:09, Risker  wrote:

>
>
> On 23 May 2014 13:05, Wil Sinclair  wrote:
>
>> Is the following a full statement of Wikipedia's Child Protection
>> Policy, reflecting all responsibilities that the Wikipedia community
>> and the Wikimedia Foundation have taken on to protect children in all
>> of the projects they are involved with and/or sponsor?
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Child_protection
>>
>> Are there any other *published* policies of WP or the WMF pertaining
>> to child protection that I might have missed?
>>
>> I know that this is a very politically charged issue in the WP
>> community. I'd appreciate a high light:heat ratio if anyone has
>> comments beyond links to current policy statements.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> ,Wil
>>
>
>
> English Wikipedia policy:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Child_protection
>
> The existence of a 'formalized' policy has been a topic of heated debate
> since its creation, although there is some truth that its original form
> more or less documented existing practice at the time.
>
> Risker/Anne
>

Just noting in addition that on the left side of the page there are
"language" links to four similar policies on other Wikipedias: Catalan,
Indonesian, Persian and Ukrainian.  Since few other Wikipedias have active
Arbitration Committees and each existing arbcom has a different scope, it's
pretty clear that processes and policies would vary from project to project.

Risker
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection Policy

[George William Herbert]

On May 23, 2014, at 10:09 AM, Risker  wrote:

> On 23 May 2014 13:05, Wil Sinclair  wrote:
> 
>> Is the following a full statement of Wikipedia's Child Protection
>> Policy, reflecting all responsibilities that the Wikipedia community
>> and the Wikimedia Foundation have taken on to protect children in all
>> of the projects they are involved with and/or sponsor?
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Child_protection
>> 
>> Are there any other *published* policies of WP or the WMF pertaining
>> to child protection that I might have missed?
>> 
>> I know that this is a very politically charged issue in the WP
>> community. I'd appreciate a high light:heat ratio if anyone has
>> comments beyond links to current policy statements.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> ,Wil
> 
> 
> English Wikipedia policy:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Child_protection
> 
> The existence of a 'formalized' policy has been a topic of heated debate
> since its creation, although there is some truth that its original form
> more or less documented existing practice at the time.
> 
> Risker/Anne

Right.

I can guarantee you that the policy more or less as written will be implemented 
by most senior experienced admins.  It documented existing very poorly 
publicized informal practice in that regard.

There is and has been much controversy as to whether it's good, fair, 
reasonable, appropriate.

As with the responding to threats of harm essay (originally responding to 
threats of suicide, now expanded), there were considerable theory based top 
down discussions that did not resolve, followed by someone documenting what was 
actually being done most of the time and that settling is as precedent.

This is perhaps not the best process.  However, even in the absence of total 
community support on these issues, admins and arbcom and senior community 
members will act to protect individual people and the community and 
encyclopedia and foundation.  It seems to be agreed that documenting usual 
parameters for that, so people understand the usual responses, was a net 
positive.


-george william herbert
george.herb...@gmail.com

Sent from Kangphone
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection Policy

[Lane Rasberry]

Hello,

Without ever being standardized or including age, there is a social
tradition called the "Friendly space policy" adopted by many Wikimedia
events. Here is one instance:


The idea is that in-person Wikimedia events should be safe and welcoming to
everyone. It does not mention age in this iteration.

In practice, this policy and derivations have been used to promote positive
behavioral norms in imitation of those developed by Western diversity
training and sensitivity training traditions.



I would like for the "Friendly space policy" to continue to be developed
into a short, easy-to-read behavioral guideline which can be adopted by
anyone for in-person events and which guide online behavior. I would like
for policies like that child protection policy to serve as more nuanced
backing of the intent of the friendly space policy.

I favor development of best practices not only for the sake of the
Wikimedia community, but also to set standards which can be adopted by
other groups. Developing these kinds of policies has proven to be a lot
more complicated than anyone anticipated but I think our community is
positioned to come to consensus about what suits many people.

With regard to the child protection policy - beyond connecting that to a
friendly space policy, I wish that there could be some kind of support for
harassment of people in any context. I would like for some minimal plan to
be made to receive harassment complaints of any kind then to refer people
to whatever services are available, or to tell them that no services are
available. For my own interests I wanted this with regard to LGBT related
harassment on Wikipedia, but I know that harassment of women is also a
problem, and if we develop a youth policy then I think it would be useful
to combine all the concerns of the stakeholders into one place in which
anyone can present their report and have it considered, whatever that means.

yours,






On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Risker  wrote:

> On 23 May 2014 13:05, Wil Sinclair  wrote:
>
> > Is the following a full statement of Wikipedia's Child Protection
> > Policy, reflecting all responsibilities that the Wikipedia community
> > and the Wikimedia Foundation have taken on to protect children in all
> > of the projects they are involved with and/or sponsor?
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Child_protection
> >
> > Are there any other *published* policies of WP or the WMF pertaining
> > to child protection that I might have missed?
> >
> > I know that this is a very politically charged issue in the WP
> > community. I'd appreciate a high light:heat ratio if anyone has
> > comments beyond links to current policy statements.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > ,Wil
> >
>
>
> English Wikipedia policy:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Child_protection
>
> The existence of a 'formalized' policy has been a topic of heated debate
> since its creation, although there is some truth that its original form
> more or less documented existing practice at the time.
>
> Risker/Anne
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection Policy

[Risker]

On 23 May 2014 13:05, Wil Sinclair  wrote:

> Is the following a full statement of Wikipedia's Child Protection
> Policy, reflecting all responsibilities that the Wikipedia community
> and the Wikimedia Foundation have taken on to protect children in all
> of the projects they are involved with and/or sponsor?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Child_protection
>
> Are there any other *published* policies of WP or the WMF pertaining
> to child protection that I might have missed?
>
> I know that this is a very politically charged issue in the WP
> community. I'd appreciate a high light:heat ratio if anyone has
> comments beyond links to current policy statements.
>
> Thanks!
> ,Wil
>


English Wikipedia policy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Child_protection

The existence of a 'formalized' policy has been a topic of heated debate
since its creation, although there is some truth that its original form
more or less documented existing practice at the time.

Risker/Anne
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[Wikimedia-l] Child Protection Policy

[Wil Sinclair]

Is the following a full statement of Wikipedia's Child Protection
Policy, reflecting all responsibilities that the Wikipedia community
and the Wikimedia Foundation have taken on to protect children in all
of the projects they are involved with and/or sponsor?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Child_protection

Are there any other *published* policies of WP or the WMF pertaining
to child protection that I might have missed?

I know that this is a very politically charged issue in the WP
community. I'd appreciate a high light:heat ratio if anyone has
comments beyond links to current policy statements.

Thanks!
,Wil

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