Re: [Wikimedia-l] Volunteering and Appreciation (was: Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF)

2018-06-11 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018, 19:39 Gerard Meijssen, wrote: > When you add the animosity when you come with arguments that are not > considered, it is too much. > Lack of mutual listening is a constant in our movement that I would like to address one way or another. The animosity depends more on your

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Volunteering and Appreciation (was: Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF)

2018-06-11 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, You read me wrong. I am not happy because in contrast to you I find that meta is too much of a time sync. To follow the diverse conversations that are taking place it almost takes a full time job. When you add the animosity when you come with arguments that are not considered, it is too much.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Volunteering and Appreciation (was: Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF)

2018-06-11 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
@Richard: Thanks for your words, they matter to me! I took a look to the page that you linked and I did some changes (I explained them on the talk page), I hope you are ok with them. In principle it is a good idea, but as always a group of people is needed to put it in practice, and it doesn't

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Volunteering and Appreciation (was: Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF)

2018-06-10 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, One reason why you do not get much traction is because many people, myself included, found that there is little purpose in spending time on Meta. It is time spend in a frustrating way and it hardly ever results in the kind of results you hope for. The time necessary to keep up with what is

[Wikimedia-l] Volunteering and Appreciation (was: Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF)

2018-06-09 Thread Richard Ames
Micru, I think a lot of us care. I wish you well! Some time ago I tried to put some thoughts around volunteering at the WMF. I thought it needed to be better planed / managed. I could not get enough interest to progress the conversation. You may wish to read