Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-19 Thread Gregory Varnum
ity acceptance is > transparency, communication, and practical solutions; enforcing rules and > unilateral decisions would only result in resistance. I hope there will be > specific roles in the new structure to engage with the community on a daily > basis to resolve community issues a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-17 Thread Aron Manning
tackle the hardest cases in cooperation with community-elected arbitrators. Professionals would bring a new set of more nuanced tools to the table to resolve issues with minimal sanctions and without punishments. The WMF is facing a huge challenge. I wish the best luck and good faith from the com

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
> > Peter > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On > > > Behalf Of Dariusz Jemielniak > > > Sent: 16 November 2019 12:39 > > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-16 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
On > > Behalf Of Dariusz Jemielniak > > Sent: 16 November 2019 12:39 > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community > > Engagement to leave the Foundation > > > > hi, > > > > speaking just in m

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
[mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On > Behalf Of Dariusz Jemielniak > Sent: 16 November 2019 12:39 > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community > Engagement to leave the Foundation > > hi, > > speakin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-16 Thread Peter Southwood
November 2019 12:39 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation hi, speaking just in my personal opinion and capacity, without discussing it with anyone else: only time will tell whether this structural change

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-16 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
ub on en.wp ----- Original Message --------- Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation From: 'Katherine Maher' mailto:kma...@wikimedia.org>> Date: 11/15/19 3:36 pm To: 'Wikimedia Mailing List' mailto:wikimedia-l@lists.wik

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-16 Thread Chris Keating
On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 6:29 AM Paul J. Weiss wrote: > I find the disbanding of the Community Engagement department at WMF to be > quite concerning. I will go so far as to say that I view it as a mistake > that will have negative impacts well into the future. > Actually I think the opposite is j

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-16 Thread Pine W
Paul raises an interesting point about the placement of T&S that I hadn't considered, although I am thinking about this from a different angle. After the departure of Michelle Paulson, I've found WMF Legal to be considerably less responsive to emails that I've sent to legal@, and it would be disap

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-15 Thread Paul J. Weiss
hank you, Paul Weiss Libcub on en.wp - Original Message ----- Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation From: 'Katherine Maher' Date: 11/15/19 3:36 pm To: 'Wikimedia Mailing List' Hello everyone, I am writing to l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-15 Thread Elena Lappen
Hi all, It seems two extra characters made their way into the end of the Wikimedia Space link. Here is the correct link, in case you’d like to leave your question there: https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/t/wikimedia-foundation-chief-of-community-engagement-to-leave-the-foundation/2194

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-15 Thread Pine W
Thanks very much for the thorough explanation, Katherine. I'll share a few comments below. These aren't directed to anyone in particular. I have no opinion one way or another about the change of structure, but I hope that for everyone's sake this will be okay, perhaps even a net positive in the m

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-15 Thread Katherine Maher
Hello everyone, I am writing to let you know that Val D’Costa, Chief Community Engagement Officer, is leaving the Wikimedia Foundation. I also want to share some changes we’re making around how the Foundation organizes staff in the Community Engagement department. Val joined us last January, brin