Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Facebook Linked in some of Wikimedia projects

2018-03-06 Thread Pine W
Hello, I believe that unofficial groups are fairly common. There were unofficial meetups for years in the City of Seattle. Similar to how computer games, movies, and television shows may have unofficial fan clubs and meetup groups, I believe that the same should be true for Wikimedia. I can unde

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Facebook Linked in some of Wikimedia projects

2018-03-05 Thread Dung Nguyen
The issue at hand here is that the linked-to Facebook page is not directly affiliated with the Wikipedia project. It might share some members, but Wikipedia has no control over its content. For a Wikipedia project that has had its share of misconceptions about its affiliations, I think it's inadv

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Facebook Linked in some of Wikimedia projects

2018-03-05 Thread Trần Nguyễn Minh Huy
Sorry, but can I understand this as a promotion link to Facebook pages (managed by community) is recommended for outreach Wikipedia, even if it isn't an "official Facebook page" managed by WMF or chapters/usergroups? Trần Nguyễn Minh Huy Supporter, Wikimedian 2018-03-01 4:43 GMT+09:00 Asaf Barto

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Facebook Linked in some of Wikimedia projects

2018-03-05 Thread Dung Nguyen
The issue at hand here is that the linked-to Facebook page is not directly affiliated with the Wikipedia project. It might share some members, but Wikipedia has no control over its content. For a Wikipedia project that has had its share of misconceptions about its affiliations, I think it's inadv

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Facebook Linked in some of Wikimedia projects

2018-03-01 Thread Erik Moeller
On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 11:32 AM, Strainu wrote: >> Personally, I'd love to see WMF or a chapter set up a public Mastodon >> instance; the project has matured significantly since its first >> release and is at least a viable free/open alternative to the >> Twitter-ish forms of social networking. F

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Facebook Linked in some of Wikimedia projects

2018-03-01 Thread Strainu
2018-03-01 4:01 GMT+02:00 Erik Moeller : > > Personally, I'd love to see WMF or a chapter set up a public Mastodon > instance; the project has matured significantly since its first > release and is at least a viable free/open alternative to the > Twitter-ish forms of social networking. FB still has

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Facebook Linked in some of Wikimedia projects

2018-03-01 Thread Minata Hatsune
I resent this for another people from Vietnamese community need to join discussion, but subscribe the wikimedia-l just now. 2018-03-01 4:43 GMT+09:00 Asaf Bartov : > Facebook is a de-facto major venue of communication for a great majority of > Internet users. Many communities, user groups, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Facebook Linked in some of Wikimedia projects

2018-03-01 Thread Vi to
The two cases some referred to https://az.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sitenotice and https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bản_mẫu:AdvancedSiteNotices I don't like facebook at all but it's a de facto standard for communication/outreaching. If "official" groups meet a series of requisites. For example bei

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Facebook Linked in some of Wikimedia projects

2018-02-28 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 5:31 PM, James Heilman wrote: > I am not seeing any link to Facebook here? > > https://az.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeniyetm%C9%99_(roman) It's part of a banner, not sure the banner is set to 100%. It says: "Azərbaycanca Vikipediya ilə daim əlaqədə olmaq üçün bizi "Facebook"da i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Facebook Linked in some of Wikimedia projects

2018-02-28 Thread James Heilman
I am not seeing any link to Facebook here? https://az.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeniyetm%C9%99_(roman) James On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 2:14 PM, mathieu stumpf guntz < psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote: > Ok, thank you. To my mind the main problem with that kind of practice > pertain to the lake of Fr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Facebook Linked in some of Wikimedia projects

2018-02-28 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Ok, thank you. To my mind the main problem with that kind of practice pertain to the lake of Free-Libre-Archivable-Infrastructure-Rack (FLAIR) alternative along the proprietary platform. One problem with this platform, is that – as far as I know – we don't have comprehensive archives, let alone

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Facebook Linked in some of Wikimedia projects

2018-02-28 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
At your service https://az.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeniyetmə_(roman) Cheers Yaroslav On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 9:26 PM, mathieu stumpf guntz < psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote: > Saluton, > > Can we actually have a link to a page with a concrete example so we can > judge this factually? > > Vikiam

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Facebook Linked in some of Wikimedia projects

2018-02-28 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Le 28/02/2018 à 20:44, Dariusz Jemielniak a écrit : My personal preference is to NOT link to Facebook. I think they use the energy of people enough already. However, I also think it is up to local communities to decide what works for them best, there is no "one size fits all" here, IMHO Sure, it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Facebook Linked in some of Wikimedia projects

2018-02-28 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Saluton, Can we actually have a link to a page with a concrete example so we can judge this factually? Vikiame Le 28/02/2018 à 20:43, Asaf Bartov a écrit : Facebook is a de-facto major venue of communication for a great majority of Internet users. Many communities, user groups, and chapters

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Facebook Linked in some of Wikimedia projects

2018-02-28 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
My personal preference is to NOT link to Facebook. I think they use the energy of people enough already. However, I also think it is up to local communities to decide what works for them best, there is no "one size fits all" here, IMHO best, DJ "pundit" On Feb 28, 2018 20:06, "Jimmy Wales" wro

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Facebook Linked in some of Wikimedia projects

2018-02-28 Thread Asaf Bartov
Facebook is a de-facto major venue of communication for a great majority of Internet users. Many communities, user groups, and chapters have some kind of formal presence on Facebook -- "groups" or "pages". Directing visitors to your wiki to *your own wiki's* presence on this other major platform,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Facebook Linked in some of Wikimedia projects

2018-02-28 Thread Jimmy Wales
Speaking only for myself, not as a member of the board, I don't know of any legal or other reason why this should not be done. I think we should be very careful about links or appearance of endorsement especially on article pages, but outreach to people in the world should take place wherever we f

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Facebook Linked in some of Wikimedia projects

2018-02-28 Thread Minata Hatsune
I know it based on local consensus, but what I mean here is: those consensus valid for WMF Term of Use and others policies or not? Because it same with Wikipedia have linked with 3rd party, which is a commerical website. Trần Nguyễn Minh Huy Vietnamese Wikimedian 2018-02-28 18:52 GMT+09:00 James

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Facebook Linked in some of Wikimedia projects

2018-02-28 Thread James Heilman
IMO this is based on local community consensus. It is not a global policy. James On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:14 AM, Minata Hatsune wrote: > Hello, I have a question: is it legal and valid for Wikipedia communities > put promotion links to their Facebook pages on public space as Main Page or > Sit

[Wikimedia-l] About Facebook Linked in some of Wikimedia projects

2018-02-27 Thread Minata Hatsune
Hello, I have a question: is it legal and valid for Wikipedia communities put promotion links to their Facebook pages on public space as Main Page or Sitenotice? I see many of Wikimedia projects doing this, as Indonesia Wikipedia, Arabic Wikipedia, etc... Their Facebooks page also have blue checkm