Hoi,
As far as I am concerned we have working and workable procedures. The
problem that I see is that the primacy is not with the "community" in
everything. We have multiple communities and there is no single subset that
can claim sovereignty over everything with the possible exception of the
board
edia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On
> Behalf Of Anders Wennersten
> Sent: Monday, 06 March 2017 9:21 PM
> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the Code of Conduct in force?
>
> We have 61000 editors that made more the 5 edit
Agreed,
Peter
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Anders Wennersten
Sent: Monday, 06 March 2017 9:21 PM
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the Code of Conduct in force?
We have 61000 editors
Anders,
I agree that there have been some positive developments in the
WMF-community relationship over the last year or so. I think that we hit a
rough patch in the past few months, and I'm hoping that it is behind us.
Figuring out how to gauge community sentiment is a really hard problem.
RfCs a
We have 61000 editors that made more the 5 edits last month and 8800
making more then 100 edits. Last election to the Board attracted 5500
voters. These figures gives a magnitude of the numbers in the community.
The number of active on this list are around 50-100, and normal
participations in
Gerard
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 7:28 AM, you wrote:
>
> For Rogol and Pine I have an additional challenge; when the WMF is to
> support the community, is their time better spend serving quality or is
> their time better spend discussing endless procedures that make us stick in
> the mud as it stifl
Hoi,
You seek cultural change but what is it that you want to change? You are
outspoken and as others commented an edge that is more than
confrontational. My appreciation is one where I fail to see the connection
with what we do, it is only about how we do it. That is in my opinion
overrated.
In m
Hi Rogol,
Sure, I'd be glad to talk with you about this. I think that a more
interactive discussion might be helpful. Would you be willing to meet me on
IRC? If so, could you email me off-list so that we can set up a time and
channel for a meeting?
Thanks,
Pine
On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 2:21 AM,
Pine,
On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 11:45 PM, you wrote:
> [...]
>
> The way that you phrase your questions sometimes comes across to me as
> having an edge than is more confrontational than I think is necessary, and
> I am finding the tone to be a distraction from what is, I think, our mutual
> goal of
I get the impression that the majority of the people in this subcommunity
feel that this decision is well on its place with the technical community,
that would be most heavily impacted by it.
So I'd say, lets leave it at that.
Lodewijk
2017-03-04 21:27 GMT+01:00 Rogol Domedonfors :
> Well, one
Hi Rogol,
Yes, to a point. But if we tried to have every discussion on this list that
was categorized as "Organizational issues of the Wikimedia Foundation,
chapter organizations", "Planning elections, polls and votes", and "Other
Wikimedia-related issues", this list would be so flooded with traff
Well, one of us is in the wrong place. I'm posting to the list described
as "Discussion list for *the Wikimedia community* and the larger network of
organizations [...] supporting its work." – my emphasis. It seems that
"This mailing list can, for example, be used for: [...]
The initial planning
This list is *a* community but it certainly does not constitute The
Community™ nor are we the community affected by this code of conduct.
I suggest raising this in venues appropriate to the particular community in
question, in this case the technical community. Before bringing this topic
here it w
David
Forum shopping is usually considered to be taking an issue from one forum
to another hoping to get the answer you want. I do not believe I have
raised this question in any other forum. I hope that helps you make the
distinction your are having difficulty with. Please explain what you
beli
This assumes the relevant Community is here now on this very list,
which is an extremely questionable assumption. As has been noted ad
nauseam already. At this point this thread appears hard to distinguish
from forum shopping.
On 2 March 2017 at 17:16, Rogol Domedonfors wrote:
> I'm not asking Ma
I'm not asking Matt. I'm asking the Community – here, now, on this very
list.
"Rogol"
On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Pine W wrote:
> Rogol,
>
> Please don't assume that Matt thinks that the TCoC is now in effect. Try
> asking him, preferably on the relevant talk page.
>
> I'm well aware of th
Rogol,
Please don't assume that Matt thinks that the TCoC is now in effect. Try
asking him, preferably on the relevant talk page.
I'm well aware of the challenges with the TCoC, but let's not make it more
difficult than it is already, OK?
Pine
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 11:31 PM, Rogol Domedonfors
: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Is the Code of Conduct in force?
Matt Flaschen has declared the final amendment to the code of conduct for
Wikimedia technical spaces approved and although he has not said so explicitly,
I assume that his current position is that it is now in force
Matt Flaschen has declared the final amendment to the code of conduct for
Wikimedia technical spaces approved and although he has not said so
explicitly, I assume that his current position is that it is now in force.
Even asuming that is correct, and previous consensus was against that, andI
there
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