Greetings,
I have read the recent additional questions or answers
(Special:Diff/134537). I have a stronger feeling now that most probably we
are talking about specific aspects and areas of the right. It might be
similar to someone stating that they visited India. Once asked what they
visited, they
Hello!
The Global Advocacy team has published some additional questions and answers
regarding the Human Rights Policy, based on many of your earlier questions and
concerns. Please take a moment to review these questions and answers here
Hi Sam - thanks so much for your feedback. The policy has been posted to Meta
for comment (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Human_Rights_Policy) and notes
from the Dec 10 Conversation Hour have also been posted on Meta
Greetings!
As Maggie said, the Global Advocacy/Public Policy team will be sharing more
detailed answers to many questions about the Human Rights Policy in
January. In the meantime, I thought I'd offer a bit more context that might
be helpful.
I joined
I think there is some poor wording being used ignoring nuances of the
English language and how different people speak it. One point that hits
hard for me is the way its being framed as "policy" rather than
"principles". Policy is too strong a word for its something that is
beholden with
On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 11:12 PM Dan Szymborski
wrote:
> The WMF likes the *idea* of this being a community-driven, collaborative
> project rather than actually doing the stuff that *makes* it a
> community-driven, collaborative project. How many times does this process
> have to repeat in
Link fail. >_< here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_2020-10-15
(Sorry for the noise!)
On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 8:43 AM Maggie Dennis wrote:
> Hi, Nosebagbear.
>
> As I said in my first email on the subject (and I said a lot, so I'm not
> surprised if it gets
Hi, Nosebagbear.
As I said in my first email on the subject (and I said a lot, so I'm not
surprised if it gets missed!), I really can only speak to my part of this -
I work with the Human Rights Team that does on the ground interventions.
The lead of this team has been a substantial input to this
Hi Maggie,
Could you answer a few things, or at least provide your (and the team's)
reasoning:
1) It has now been stated multiple times it was urgent to get a policy like
this. But you tell us there's a secret playbook already in play, and I can't
imagine that has changed immediately just
Hi, Dan.
With respect to this - "And telling the community things like that "there's
a secret playbook we have" is making everything worse. *Why* is there a
secret playbook for a collaborative movement? That is not how collaboration
and consensus work." - I *do* understand that there is a tension
The fundamental problem here is that the WMF's response to everything is
simply *reactive*. A policy is instituted, with zero real collaboration,
little or no discussion, foggy goals, sparsely answered direct questions
and then simply announced to the community in faux-press release fashion.
And
On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 8:07 PM geni wrote:
> You and who's army? If one of the world's more questionable
> governments decides to target Wikipedians within its territory there's
> not a thing you can do about about it. You’re not France. You can’t
> threaten governments into submission (and
Greetings,
I can make a list of things or areas. However, it is not difficult to do
so. So far, it looks like the consultation was not open and did not engage
the communities who the policy intends to serve. Anyway, in my humble
opinion, what we could do is: getting information, experience,
To the question of who, how, whether, and for what, individuals should
receive direct financial support for their volunteer contributions - I
leave that to the discussions of movement Strategy and Charter.
To the specific question of if the eventual revenue raised via ‘Wikimedia
Enterprise’
Hi Tito and all,
Tito said, in part,
1) Okay, we have an "urgent" policy. What is the plan and procedure to
> safeguard the human rights of someone? Example: If a Wikimedian's human
> right is in danger for using Wikimedia's/OSM's disputed map[1], what's the
> "exact" procedure?
> I do
Hoi,
What Jimmy does or does not from within his own organisation has nothing to
do with the Wikimedia Foundation. You know that..
Thanks,
GerardM
On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 at 22:20, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
> Given the topic of human rights, I would like to point out that we have
> not had any
On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 at 00:29, wrote:
> As I stated in the conversation hour [2], the Foundation urgently needs such
> a policy in order to meet our responsibility to protect members of our
> community from real, growing threats in the world. More governments are
> increasingly aggressive about
Hello everyone - Thank you all for your comments and questions regarding the
Foundation’s Human Rights Policy. We are collecting these questions and look
forward to discussing them in January, when we will organize a process for
additional dialogue, including additional Conversation Hours. We
Greetings,
"... urgently needs such a policy in order to meet our responsibility to
protect members of our community from real, growing threats in the world.
More governments are increasingly aggressive about [entire paragraph]"
— If that's the objective, that is a great and welcome move in my
Hi everyone,
Thank you for your replies.
Sam makes some great points and suggestions. Indeed, the Movement’s free
knowledge agenda is about freedom *to* which is why the first sentence of the
policy says: “The Wikimedia Movement’s vision—of a world in which every single
human being can
Hi everyone,
Thank you for your replies.
Sam makes some great points and suggestions. Indeed, the Movement’s free
knowledge agenda is about freedom *to* which is why the first sentence of the
policy says: “The Wikimedia Movement’s vision—of a world in which every single
human being can
Greetings and salutations.
I am also excited and inspired by the release of the Human Rights Policy and on
the occasion of Human Rights Day, wanted to contribute to this intriguing
conversation.
Addressing the conflicts between the different policy instruments and their
constitutive
Hi Richard, thanks. Keen to see what the team is planning.
- Are there any notes from the session earlier today?
- Can you post the policy to Meta, and link it to the [[m:Human Rights
Team]]?
- You might seed its discussion page with the current FAQ; people may have
other questions. This would
Apart from mindless news sources that regurgitated the Christies PR, more
recent journalism has in the headlines "triggers controversy", "editors
very mad", "some Wikipedians are pissed".
Of these, the presentation by Slate seems even-handed good quality
journalism, presenting the facts, the
Hi,
I find a human rights policy based on major human rights documents of the
world very conflicting and equally amusing in an organization which grows
itself in an inherently exploitative system feeding on volunteer works.
While volunteers from around the world, who generate contents and
Nice to hear about the excitement.
It looks like reading the policy and checking links in the supplied
document would take around 45 minutes to do thoroughly, plus joining the
meeting with the two WMF teams would take another hour. It is unfortunate
that the invitation is with less than 1 days
On Dec 9, 2021, 7:26 AM -0800, Richard Gaines , wrote:
> Hello,
> The Wikimedia Foundation’s Global Advocacy team is excited to announce the
> approval of the Human Rights Policy by the Board of Trustees on 8 December
> 2021. Please read our blog post about the policy and what it means for the
Greetings,
This is an interesting topic. I feel there is a slight possibility (some)
questions asked may be misunderstood as "questions against human right
(implementation)", which is not true. The questions are about the process,
and not on the subject.
The Diff blog post mentions: "Our Human
Given the topic of human rights, I would like to point out that we have not
had any reply on what happened to the $500k UAE award Jimmy Wales pledged
he would use – every last penny – for human rights work with his Jimmy
Wales Foundation.
Criticism of the process:
* No public consultation or even announcement was done before the policy
was finalized. No opportunity to influence the outcome was given.
* The policy was preceded by a human rights impact assessment, commissioned
by the WMF. The report was given to the WMF in July, but
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