Keegan and Oliver (again),
I've communicated a bit with Keegan off list, and I appreciate the feedback
from both of you. I intended to say something conciliatory, I didn't put
much thought into how I put it, and I achieved the opposite effect. I'm
sorry. I should have known better.
For whatever i
+1 to Keegan. I am glad you have spoken to staffers, Pete. I promise I
can identify at least 300 other people that fall into that category
too.
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Keegan Peterzell
wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 8:04 PM, Pete Forsyth wrote:
>
>> Still, my list is very much influen
> On Feb 26, 2016, at 6:17 PM, Risker wrote:
>
> No, I think we've actually done a very superficial identification of the
> problems. Some of them are so obvious that they are overwhelming the less
> obvious but equally serious issues.
>
> Honestly, "we need a new board" is probably not an i
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 8:04 PM, Pete Forsyth wrote:
> Still, my list is very much influenced by what I
> have heard from staff, board, etc. over many months -- so it's not like
> your seat is getting cold without you. :)
>
My seat without me in it would be the very definition of it getting cold
Or perhaps a key problem is the recruitment process to the Board .
Fort the community elected seats, wanted criteria were identified by the
Board and clearly communicated (non-western, non English speakers) but
was in practice ignores by the voters and where 3 out of the five
getting most vote
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 6:17 PM, Risker wrote:
>
> Honestly, "we need a new board" is probably not an issue.
Risker, perhaps you missed this in my original message -- I did not express
that we need a new board.
Item #3 on my list was entirely under the heading:
"The Board should set up the nex
No, I think we've actually done a very superficial identification of the
problems. Some of them are so obvious that they are overwhelming the less
obvious but equally serious issues.
Honestly, "we need a new board" is probably not an issue. 40% of the board
has been seated for less than a year, a
Risker and Brion:
I very much agree with the principles you're stating, and am coming to
realize I should have framed my message differently. There has actually
been quite a lot of discussion of what the problems are, and I am basing my
suggestions on the ones that I've personally seen a lot of at
Strong +1 to Risker.
Collecting ideas to work more on as we move forward: YES. Keeping the
constructive attitude and opened comm channels I've seen here and and among
staff internally: YES.
But let's be deliberate, and considerate. We do have to learn and process
before we implement anything.
Th
I think in fairness that it is not just staff who are feeling this is all
moving too fast. The overwhelming majority of community members, and in
particular community members who don't read and speak English fluently, are
likely to be pretty overwhelmed right now too.
I am concerned that what we
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Pete Forsyth wrote:
>
> However, I'm not trying to push things forward at a pace that's comfortable
> *for me*, I'm trying to focus on things that will impact *what it's
> possible to do*.
>
Oh absolutely, forge ahead. My message was in no way asking anyone to sl
To Oliver and Keegan -- I hear you guys loud and clear, and I am very aware
that the trauma of the last few months has taken this kind of toll.
Although there is of course much I don't know, I have been talking with a
number of staff, board, etc. for many months now about this. So to whatever
degre
+1. It's difficult without breaking fifteen NDAs to underscore exactly
how shellshocked and traumatised staff are right now, dealing with all
of this for 8 hours a day for 3-18 months, depending on the nature of
their concerns. As the people most impacted by negative or positive
changes to the orga
(slightly indirect to the topic, but not worth its own thread)
Hey Pete,
Thanks for your time and reflection, and that extend to everyone else, with
this and related topics over the past month. Wikimedia-l has actually been
a refreshing kind of place, where cautious respect and rational discourse
Thank you Yaroslav for this very important addition. Yes, let's call it #6
(even if it should be higher :) In terms of specific next steps, Anthony
Cole offered a very compelling point about transparency on Meta Wiki:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboa
On 2016-02-26 21:20, Pete Forsyth wrote:
All:
Now that Wikimedia's Executive Director is leaving, a central point of
contention has been resolved. But as many have said, the "real work" of
getting back on track comes next. I have been thinking about what the
next
specific steps should be, and I
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