Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-19 Thread Gregory Varnum
Hello, Aron - I have posted a response to your inquiry on Wikimedia Space - thank you for sharing it there as well: https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/t/wikimedia-foundation-chief-of-community-engagement-to-leave-the-foundation/2194/3 Thank you to everyone for your feedback, offers of support,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-17 Thread Aron Manning
Katherine Maher wrote: > Valerie and her team drafted > an ambitious new vision for the work of Community Engagement—focused on > decentralization of power and resources, safe and welcoming spaces, > equitable collaboration, increased language and cultural fluency, dedicated > programs for groups

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
> Peter > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On > > > Behalf Of Dariusz Jemielniak > > > Sent: 16 November 2019 12:39 > > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > > > Subj

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-16 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
gt; > Behalf Of Dariusz Jemielniak > > Sent: 16 November 2019 12:39 > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community > > Engagement to leave the Foundation > > > > hi, > > > > speaking just in my

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
[mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On > Behalf Of Dariusz Jemielniak > Sent: 16 November 2019 12:39 > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community > Engagement to leave the Foundation > > hi, > > speakin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-16 Thread Peter Southwood
November 2019 12:39 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation hi, speaking just in my personal opinion and capacity, without discussing it with anyone else: only time will tell whether this structural change

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-16 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi, speaking just in my personal opinion and capacity, without discussing it with anyone else: only time will tell whether this structural change works, and jumping to conclusions is definitely premature. In principle, as a person specializing in management and organizational change, I can

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-16 Thread Chris Keating
On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 6:29 AM Paul J. Weiss wrote: > I find the disbanding of the Community Engagement department at WMF to be > quite concerning. I will go so far as to say that I view it as a mistake > that will have negative impacts well into the future. > Actually I think the opposite is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-16 Thread Pine W
Paul raises an interesting point about the placement of T that I hadn't considered, although I am thinking about this from a different angle. After the departure of Michelle Paulson, I've found WMF Legal to be considerably less responsive to emails that I've sent to legal@, and it would be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-15 Thread Paul J. Weiss
I find the disbanding of the Community Engagement department at WMF to be quite concerning. I will go so far as to say that I view it as a mistake that will have negative impacts well into the future. For one thing, the structure of an organization is in some sense a statement of priorities. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-15 Thread Elena Lappen
Hi all, It seems two extra characters made their way into the end of the Wikimedia Space link. Here is the correct link, in case you’d like to leave your question there: https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/t/wikimedia-foundation-chief-of-community-engagement-to-leave-the-foundation/2194

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-15 Thread Pine W
Thanks very much for the thorough explanation, Katherine. I'll share a few comments below. These aren't directed to anyone in particular. I have no opinion one way or another about the change of structure, but I hope that for everyone's sake this will be okay, perhaps even a net positive in the