+1 for new mailing list for Wikimedia projects in English from India.
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.comwrote:
+1 to Tinu,
If more traffic starts hitting the list regarding en wiki articles (like
yesterday), a separate list is an absolute must.
On Wed,
Agree with Tinu; What's in a name? ...as long as the list has some proper
name, its ok. Also, traffic in the new list might pick up once it is
actually started.
However, I don't think that this should be used as a substitute for onwiki
discussions.
Swaroop Rao
(MikeLynch
Thanks all for the sharing your thoughts on this. While we have a kind of
consensus to move ahead with the creation, I wish to understand the
concerns of those who think it may not be needed. I agree we will have a
problem with too many lists always.. Once each Indian language community
gets
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From: Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 1:35 AM
Subject: [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] Women Wikimedia
To: wikimedia-in-...@lists.wikimedia.org
Hi everyone!
I wanted to let you know about a survey that I am running for female
Hi,
I've been working on this article for the past two days when Pradeep and I
came across this problem.
We need references for the location of this dam.
Most [Haven't read all] articles say that this dam is located on the
Periyar River. There is ONLY one source that states that this dam is
Gerard,
The one thing I have come to understand is that many native speakers of
Indic languages are effectively illiterate in their own language. The
combination of highly educated people being functionally illiterate had me
talking with many people.
From
Hi Gerard,
On Wednesday 30 November 2011 06:21 PM, Bishakha Datta wrote:
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Gerard Meijssen
gerard.meijs...@gmail.com mailto:gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:
The one thing I have come to understand is that many native
speakers of Indic languages are
Ravi shankar said:
If your ambition is to teach the mother tongues for the convent educated
minority English speaking Indians through a Wiki project and then make them
contribute in Indic language Wikipedias, it may never happen. I am not even
sure if it fits inside Wikipedia's mission.
Sharing a news also (related to Mother language illiteracy).
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/thscrip/print.pl?file=2008011357590300.htmdate=2008/01/13/prd=th;
Shiju
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote:
Ravi shankar said:
If your ambition is to teach
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote:
Ravi shankar said:
If your ambition is to teach the mother tongues for the convent educated
minority English speaking Indians through a Wiki project and then make them
contribute in Indic language Wikipedias, it may
WhereDevilsDare,
I know, but the thought of the oral citation came up and hence I brought it
up here.
Regards,
Srikanth.
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 6:33 PM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote:
Use ENVIS Kerala, per YES:POV. I suggest such discussions should take
place on wiki.
If English Wikipedia is re-energising, thanks to WikiConference
interested editors coming together, it is only natural that a host of email
threads will follow. Some people prefer that the wikimedia-I list not be
crowded, be generic and kept noise-free. Hisham has explained some of the
thinking.
Heya,
Errr.. may I intrude?
There are several people on this list who are illiterate in their mother
tongue. I know one personally. I myself fall under this category. Being a
Tamilian, presently living in TN, I am able to contribute to the English
versions of articles and at the most Hindi.
Re,
In short, we have the necessary consensus. I think we should go ahead.
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On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote:
If English Wikipedia is re-energising, thanks to WikiConference
interested editors coming together, it is only natural that a host
Hoi,
During my visit to India, Amir started to teach me to read Devanagari. He
did not teach me all the characters but I now have an idea on how to read
the script. One of the things we looked at were things like the difference
in writing characters for Marathi and Hindi. Effectively we looked at
*One of the reasons why these people are so relevant to me is that they are
part of the top of the pyramid that is our communities. They are the people
who work on our technology. We need people who are technically capable and
interested in working on MediaWiki. We need them as part of our
Hoi,
- You agree with me that these people exist.
- The Malayalam Wikisource is getting more attention then the Malayalam
Wikipedia
- It is relatively easy to learn to read the script.
- Having native speakers type text that they could decipher is something
they can do if they
Gerard,
while what you are saying is true, I am forced to agree with Bala.
You need to work with someone who knows the language to the purest of its
form, knows it in and out, and also knows technology. I doubt you'd've come
across MANY of those at either WCI or the Hackathon.
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On Wed, Nov
Requesting Tinu to file a bugzilla for -wikimedia-in-eng mailing list.
The sooner we get off the community list the better. Already people are
asking posts regarding En:WP content to be curtailed.
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
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On Wed, Nov
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 19:03, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.comwrote:
So I feel like there may be three or more categories of persons for each
language:
-Speakers who read and write in that lang
-Speakers who don't read and write in that lang (non or low users)
-Speakers who don't
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 19:47, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote:
You need to work with someone who knows the language to the purest of its
form, knows it in and out, and also knows technology. I doubt you'd've come
across MANY of those at either WCI or the Hackathon.
The aggressive/offended tone in a couple of posts on this thread distresses
me. I humbly request that all respondents may please tone down any
agression you may feel. Gerard is trying to understand Indian culture in
good faith. He has made some assumptions that he is keen to explore. May I
request
*Gerard is trying to understand Indian culture in good faith. He has made
some assumptions that he is keen to explore. May I request that we please
discuss maturely without getting offended? We need to not only AGF but be
CIVIL also.*
Unfortunately Gerard's attempt at understanding resulted in a
+1 with Ashwin.
A word is not the whole of the message Gerard is trying to convey.
*ILLITERATE
*may sound little harsh, please ignore it considering the effort of Gerard
and whole of Localization team for the efforts for creating a platform for
Indic language. People have started using Wikipedia
That is a good thought implied by you, Sodabottle. Perhaps, WMF would like
to discuss their proposed initiatives with affected communities before they
announce them. Just as a ground check rather than depending only on one's
experiences. Like a last check of a compass before walking on a certain
Point well taken. Of course, you realise that I am a well wisher of the
Programs and its participants. Sorry to inadvertantly hurt your feelings.
Challenge or setback would have been more appropriate.
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
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On Wed,
Ashwin,
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote:
The aggressive/offended tone in a couple of posts on this thread
distresses me. I humbly request that all respondents may please tone down
any agression you may feel. Gerard is trying to understand Indian
On 11/30/2011 01:48 AM, wikimediaindia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote:
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 12:00:00 +0530
From: Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia's participation in Google
Summer of Code
To: Wikimedia India Community list
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 20:23, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote:
That is a good thought implied by you, Sodabottle. Perhaps, WMF would like
to discuss their proposed initiatives with affected communities before they
announce them. Just as a ground check rather than depending only
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 17:47, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote:
Alternatively, if someone can go to the dam with a camera capable of
recording audio and video, talk with an official of the EB/ID of whoever
[TN or KL] pointing out to the details and try and make an Oral
hi,
I have learnt English and Hindi in school and am fairly conversant (read, write
and speak matrix) in both. My education in reading and writing Malayalam is
through my grandmother (hence, informal education in my own mother tongue). I
have been trying to read Malayalam Wikipedia articles
Hoi,
As far as I am concerned, the discussion is civil enough. Let me be clear.
When I find people illiterate in their mother tongue, I personally find
this absolutely horrible. There is not much that I can do about this, there
is nothing the WMF intends to do about this. If at all it is you in
+1 with Ravi
*For example, a year back a wrong proposal was sent to Unicode consortium
that wanted Grantha script being encoded in Unicode but at the expense of
damaging Tamil language in long term.
*The incident Ravi mentions came about because of a similar situation -
faulty understanding by
Why is there a section called operation. The information already exists
in the History section and no new details are available?
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
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On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote:
Srikanth,
That is exactly what I'm worried about.
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On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote:
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 17:47, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote:
Alternatively, if someone can go to the dam with a camera capable of
Hi folks,
Sue forwarded me this thread.
The best way to get people like that taken care of is through the email
response team - there's a group of really wonderful volunteers who would
love to help out in cases like that.
You can have the person write to info-e...@wikimedia.org (that's info,
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote:
Thanks Srikanth, but I'm surprised you come across it at all. Brian
Horrocks was a British general, from the British Army (not from British
Indian Arny), did not serve in India, not involved in any campaign where
In the case of Freddie Mercury who belonged to an Indian ethnic community -
the Parsis, had family ties in Mumbai, lived there for a few years, a case
could perhaps be made. But not Horrocks. I cannot say about Cliff Richards.
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 21:22, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote:
Please help me understand. The Grantha script is not the same as the Tamil
script and it is not used to write Tamil right ? But even so; how can
characters in a SCRIPT that are not used in a language damage that
Worth checking out for the Chapter? And the Trust? Maybe both together?
Datawind, the inventor of world's cheapest tablet computer – UbiSlate
– has joined hands with NASSCOM Foundation to help bridge the digital
divide in India.
Partnership focuses to announce a contest targeting the non-profit
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote:
Worth checking out for the Chapter? And the Trust? Maybe both together?
Wouldn't existing work for the WikiReader or, the OLPC project fit in
terms of enabling an offline wikipedia ?
--
sankarshan mukhopadhyay
Awesome Idea. Sounds right up our alley. I can help provide some support
around the content end but someone else will need to drive the project.
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
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On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Gautam John
Thanks Sumana for the details. Help much in understanding GSoC from student
participation angle. Thanks again.
Regards,
Srikanth L
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On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Ashwin
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote:
Worth checking out for the Chapter? And the Trust? Maybe both together?
Datawind, the inventor of world's cheapest tablet computer – UbiSlate
– has joined hands with NASSCOM Foundation to help bridge the digital
We're on it. Jessie Wild (who manages offline projects at WMF) and I had a
meeting a few days ago with the persons in charge of the Akash initiative at
the GoI's Ministry of HRD. I've briefed the Chapter EC on this.
The meeting was very promising. There are a bunch of things that need to be
On Dec 1, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan wrote:
Aakash is basically an Android tablet. So if we create an offline version of
Wikipedia for all Android devices, [India specific], I guess that should do?
Right?
Yes. A version of Aakash is on Android. It is probable that we will
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 12:28, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote:
Aakash is basically an Android tablet. So if we create an offline version
of Wikipedia for all Android devices, [India specific], I guess that should
do? Right?
This version of Aakash uses Android- the one
On Dec 1, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Aditya Sengupta wrote:
@Hisham, Jessie: Any updates on getting the sample tablets from the
manufacturer?
Request made and politely declined.
hisham
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