[Wikimediaindia-l] Narayam updates
Hi all, Attention : Indic communities using Narayam extension. Other Indic communities which don't have Narayam please do read below, I have a note for you too As of now Malayalam,Tamil,Odiya,Sanskrit,Assamese,Sinhala communities use Narayam. Narayam is also deployed on Commons. Most of the communities had got the extension few months back, but there have been consistent improvements / bug fixes. Looks like people are not aware of those changes and started asking Shiju where can they know more.I am writing on 2 major things that was done to Narayam recently because of the bugs we(Tamil community) filed and fixes for them had caused an overall impact. Shortcut key on Mac :- Refer bug[1] for details, in summary the shortcut key is now dynamic based on browser / OS combination so that the shortcut works. Control+G is new shortcut on Mac largely. This was done during Hackathon. //Surprise surprise, more Indic users on mac :) Beta maps :- Refer bug[2] for details, in summary, if you have seen more input methods previously and started seeing lesser methods in last couple of days, its probably because of this. We did not want untested keyboard mappings live on WikiProjects. Beta maps will enable people to test newly added maps(bunch of inscript maps were added as part of Hackathon / Translation sprint) to be tested on translatewiki, only after a community member certifies it, it will be seen in wikimedia sites. This was done last week. There are more bugs reported by others and the software keeps changing, so If you want to follow Narayam in close detail, subscribe to the feed[3]. i18n team, Some of us know, you push i18n patches every Monday. Can you also give a feed for recent changes in patch *every week*, so we could see if something relevant to us changed in the patch and test so that we may not miss any regression caused and be quick to report issues. I know wikitech wiki has the logs somewhere on deployment(forgot now), but a plain text feed will help and save much time for many folks. To those communities who have not taken up Narayam and use old javascript solution :- The Javascript solution is not an ideal one now, though it served the purpose when it was built. Narayam is supported better / technically superior and as an extension is fairly stable. Unlike webfonts, Narayam will be deployed only if someone asks for and that should be the way..You can test through http://translatewiki.net report bugs(Ideally narayam shouldn't have bugs since Junaid took the maps which already existed in typing solution), get things fixed, call for community consensus and getting them deployed. I also request Shiju (who keeps interacting with various communities, to give a push on this to Indic wikipedians) To those communities which don't have any input method solution :- Please invest some time, the returns are really great. Juniad / i18n team will help you get Narayam. [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31026 [2] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32768 [3] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?component=Narayamproduct=MediaWiki%20extensionsquery_format=advancedtitle=Bug%20List%3A%20Narayam%20bugsctype=atomlist_id=65646 -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pune hackathon scheduled 10-12 February 2012
Aah, well. Will the Hackathon be India specific. On 12/14/11, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF) smazel...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi Srikanth, On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Forgive me for this silly question, but will there be any session on adapting WebFonts on the mobile site? Why would that be a silly question? We have only just announced the event, as soon as possible, without have a detailed schedule or topic overview. Nothing potentially relevant is off the table beforehand, though, so please stay tuned! In about an hour we have the WMF internal kickoff, and I hope we will be able to communicate some topics before the year ends. No guarantees though, because I'll probably not be the project manager of the hackathon ;). -- Siebrand Mazeland Product Manager Localisation Wikimedia Foundation M: +31 6 50 69 1239 Skype: siebrand Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on WikiKovai meet 1.
Thanks a lot Arjuna. I think February will be good as exams won't be there then. Meanwhile, I do hope that the Academy in Jan will help up increase the active community members in Coimbatore for further meetups to happen. On 12/14/11, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunar...@gmail.com wrote: Srikanth R, My previous discussion is about wiki academy for journalism students of Amrita institution in Coimbatore for Jan 2012. No such event happened in 2011. Getting regular meetups happen is a big challenge even in places like Bangalore. You can plan for once in two months or so to start with encourage people to edit, participate in nearby meetups, wiki academies, encourage membership in chapter to grow the movement on a sustainable basis. Cheers Arjuna Rao Chavala - Sent via mobile On Dec 14, 2011 11:10 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Heya, this just struck me. Arjuna mentioned to me that there was an Academy held in Coimbatore back in April 2011. Maybe, we could get guys from there to attend the next meetup, provided some experienced community member attends it. On 12/13/11, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the positive response guys. I'll try and arrange a meetup in the second week of January. Since the only two Wikipedians are out of town and it also will be Wikipedia Day, presence of a member of chapter or foundation would be welcome. On 12/13/11, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote: Very nice report. I hope to see more active wikipedians. And hope the community grows. You rock, Keep it up. Regards ansu * ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ansumang On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Heya all, This should've come in elaier but didn't as my lab was shut. To Pradeep, who's been asking for two days, And Noopur, the only other Wikipedian who asked about this meet. Our meetup was held at the KG Inst. of Tech [KITE] who offered us an A/C presentation hall for this event. KITE, is a part of KG Information Systems Ltd, one of the city's most respected IT establishments. The meetup space was offered by Mr. Ashok Bkathavatsalam himself, the MD of KGISL, who in turn was told about this meet by Gautam John and Venkat Mangudi. Thanks you two. The meetup started at 11am. We had ~14-15 attendees, out of which 8 or 9 were part of ILUGC Pondy [Indian Linux User Group Puducherry]. One Wikipedian saw the link to the meetup on my signature on an online forum SkyScraperCity and came from Chennai. Bala Jeyaraman, aka Sodabottle joined me a few minutes into the meetup and it was him who spoke for the rest of the day. Pre lunch, we basically spoke on how and why the Wikipedia model worked, the principles of the project, with Bala using the age old debate of whether Coimbatore or Madurai was the second largest city in Tamil Nadu as an example for verifiability. Bala explained the ease of typing in Tamil, etc. Post lunch, we were joined by two faculty members of KITE, while Mr. Ashok himself stepped in. Interestingly, he himself has an account on the English Wikipedia and contributes too. The meetup ended at around 4, we took a few photos. I shall ask Prasanna to upload them soon. It was a success, there were three existing Wikipedians, and the rest were interested newcomers. I wouldn't call it an academy though. We've not scheduled a meetup for January yet, as the most probable date is 15th Jan [Wikipedia Day] because both Bala and I won't be in town. If anyone from the chapter/foundation can help lead it, I can get people to attend and myself attend virtually thru Skype or so from Kakinada. Comments, suggestions most welcome. All brickbats my way, bouquets to Bala please. -- -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan, Sathyamangalam-Gobichettipalayam Star Gazers My Commons uploads, now exceeding 75. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Rsrikanth05 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th.
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Narayam updates
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: Shortcut key on Mac :- Refer bug[1] for details, in summary the shortcut key is now dynamic based on browser / OS combination so that the shortcut works. Control+G is new shortcut on Mac largely. This was done during Hackathon. //Surprise surprise, more Indic users on mac :) Small correction, this fix was not done during hackathon, but before that. And for Opera in OSX, shortcut is control+command+m. There are more bugs reported by others and the software keeps changing, so If you want to follow Narayam in close detail, subscribe to the feed[3]. i18n team, Some of us know, you push i18n patches every Monday. Can you also give a feed for recent changes in patch *every week*, so we could see if something relevant to us changed in the patch and test so that we may not miss any regression caused and be quick to report issues. I know wikitech wiki has the logs somewhere on deployment(forgot now), but a plain text feed will help and save much time for many folks. We post the i18n deployment notes in Mediaiwiki-i18n list , one or two days before deployment. https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n Gerard blogs about the deployment , see http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/12/12/going-live-december-12-2011/ and he plans to do this blog post for every deployment. If anybody is interested particularly in some extension, they can follow all the commits to that path in subversion For eg: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Code/MediaWikipath=%2Ftrunk%2Fextensions%2FWebFonts gives all the code changes happened in webfonts. I am not sure whether it is really required to post these changes every week here, because not every one is interested in reading the code changes. I hope the code review page helps to find out all the changes for an extension/component Another way to find out planned revisions for i18ndeploy is looking at this tag: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/tag/i18ndeploy To those communities which don't have any input method solution :- Please invest some time, the returns are really great. Juniad / i18n team will help you get Narayam. Happy to help. -Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam
Arnav, brilliant, though I think you should first introduce photographers to the Commons and explain the benefits. Let me know your thoughts, if need be privately, as I'm planning to go forward with a special meet aimed at the photography community myself, in Coimbatore. On 12/14/11, Arnav Sonara sonara.ar...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, As Noopur said GLAM and outreach cannot be seperated, +1 to it. Also wanted to share with you guys that the outreach event and workshop I am organising in February in MS University Baroda, the organizers from the city were amazed to know what Commons is and how wikipedia and other project get images and media from it. So they have asked me to come up with an event specially targeting photographers. Thus am planning for Wikipedia takes Baroda though at much smaller scale than scavenger hunt which has happened in other countries till now. Please give your inputs on it. And Noopur I ll get in touch with you offline regarding it. Thanks. On 12/14/11, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: hi, Well, L could reach WikiSource (old books?), WikiQuotes, Wikictionary (difficult, tho). Better to keep all options open. Also, all the Indic stuff would go on the Indic version of the respective projects. So, a Malayalam wikisource or a Marathi Wikisource other than just English. Pradeep Handheld On 14/12/2011, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Pradeep, thanks. I forgot that the L stood for Libraries. Thanks. According to me. G- Commons, Wikipedia. L- Wikisource. A- Commons, Wikipedia, Wikisource. M- Commons, Wikipedia. Am I right? These are just indicative as to what element of GLAM joins which project. On 12/14/11, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: hi, Stuff from libraries and archives go onto WikiSource. I read/heard/saw somewhere that they're having a hard time monitoring docs uploaded there. Not sure if it needs monitoring for copyvio etc. So, a WikiSource person or encouraging a WikiSource person to do and learn more would be a welcome addition. warm regards, Pradeep Handheld On 14/12/2011, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Pradeep, my thoughts exactly. The Commons would be the most utilised project due to GLAM, and I think we should ask Yann, who is an admin. Also, I'm curious to what role WikiSource would play here, especially in India. On 12/14/11, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: hi, GLAM contributions will impact contributions to Wikipedia sister projects like Commons and WikiSource. Would love if people active on these projects would come forward and share how such uploads from GLAM would need to be moderated, etc. Would love to hear more from someone who's onto WikiSource, especially. warm regards, Pradeep Handheld On 14/12/2011, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: @ashwin thanks :) I plan to get one for Jan hopefully or at least figure things out by then. Am already designing a new logo and trying to see what sections can cover Indic reports+GLAM+outreach and more. If you have categories in mind, post on talk page or let's take this on private mail. I will need help editing maybe and i suck at using templates etc. Would be glad if you could help with it. :) On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Ashwin, I fail to understand what this has to do with GLAM. Unless ofcourse, Noopur can run a section on GLAM on WikiPatrika ... On 12/14/11, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: * I can volunteer to make a newsletter! * Warmly Noopur Dear Noopur, This project was well begun but came to a dead halt! No one to blame. With a versatile person like Tinu handling so much, something was bound to come to a stop. http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika The next issue is of November but going nowhere - http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika/2011-11 I suggest you try to get one out in Feb and two months after that and so forth. Please rest assured on my support for - * op-ed * tips 'n tricks * English Wikipedia report Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 -- Pradeep Mohandas How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 ___ Wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Webfonts deployment on Indic Wikiprojects
If you want to test something new, either make it opt in, or don't do it live. Not on Tamil, not on Hindi, not on any Wikipedia for that matter. On 12/14/11, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: I dont think its appropriate to be a bit more experimental. You are seeing the scale in absolute sense, we are seeing it in relative sense. Tamil Wikipedia is 7th most-viewed Tamil site. +1. Similar stats can be observed for most of the Indic language Wiki projects with sizable content as they are the only / major source of reference online for the respective languages. Ravi -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter November report 2011.
Dear Wikimedia community, The highlights of the month of November for the Wikimedia Chapter (India) are provided below: Administrative matters Membership The Chapter membership stands at 185 as of 30 November 2011. This is nearly double the number of members we had two months ago. The Chapter saw an increase of 72 members who applied for spot membership at WikiConference 2011 organized last month in Mumbai. Donations Dr Amit Keshri became the first person to donate to our Chapter. We express our sincere thanks to Dr Keshri and others for their generous contributions towards the young chapter. Total donations received in Nov 2011 - INR 3601. Average donations in Nov 2011 - INR 900.25. FCRA We have applied for FCRA prior permission under the Foreign Contribution (Regulation) Act with the Government of India on 5 November 2011 to be able to receive funds [1]http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:WM_IN/Bootstrap_Grantfrom Wikimedia Foundation. The expected time for processing is 3 to 4 months. New organizations like ours can receive foreign contributions after seeking project based prior permission from the Ministry of Home Affairs. We are seeking permission so as to receive the grant amount allotted to us by the Wikimedia Foundation in the United States Another alternative is to apply for FCRA registration, which will facilitate the receipt of foreign contributions. However, such permissions are only granted to organizations with a proven track record of function in their chosen field of work for a period of three years. Wiki Conference India 2011 The first Annual India WikiConference 2011 [1] was organized in Mumbai on 18-20 November 2011 at the University of Mumbai. The conference was jointly hosted by the Wikimedia community in Mumbai and the chapter, along with scores of volunteers from around the country. This was the first time that the Indian Wikimedia community has come together to participate at a national level to organize a conference at this scale.[2] The conference organizing team was lead by Pranav Curumsey (Chair), Pradeep Mohandas (Treasurer) and Moksh Juneja (Secretary).[3] Jimmy Wales, the founder of Wikipedia, inaugurated the conference by delivering a keynote on Community Building: The Wiki Way in India. He also said that this event was probably one of the largest Wikimedia events in the world. Approximately 700 delegates from all over the country attended the three day national conference. Full and partial scholarships were given to 98 awardees out of 7070 applicants. MOre than 50 sessions[4]focused on community building, improving quality of articles, Mediawiki, establishing partnerships, Wikipedia India Education Program and sharing of experiences and best practices. Some of the invited speakers included Professor Krishna Kumar, Anand Kumar and Arnab Goswami. The state of Indic Wikiprojects track showcased the current state of each Wikimedian community in India. The conference also received very impressive and enthusiastic coverage from the national and international media.[5] As a part of the Chapter track, an overview[6] was presented by President Arjuna Rao Chavala. The Noteworthy Wikimedian Recognition ceremony[7] was anchored by Arun Ramarathnam, member of the executive committee which honored several Wikimedians across different Wikiprojects pertinent to India.[8] Images and presentations from the conference have been uploaded to the Wikimedia Commons[9]. Chapter thanks the organizing team for doing a phenomenal job for making this event successful, and to to all the chapter members and volunteers spread across the country who contributed so much of their time and effort. Chapter also thanks Wikimedia Foundation and all other sponsors for their support and cooperation. City and Language SIG The Wikimedia Chapter is proud to announce the first batch of City and Language SIG Chairs[10] from its members as given below: - Odiya SIG - Subhashish Panigrahi (Odiya user page of Subhashishhttp://or.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AC%AC%E0%AD%8D%E0%AD%9F%E0%AC%AC%E0%AC%BE%E0%AC%B9%E0%AC%BE%E0%AC%B0%E0%AC%95%E0%AC%BE%E0%AC%B0%E0%AD%80:Psubhashish). - Bengali SIG - Jayanta Nathhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jayantanth. - Sanskrit SIG Swaroop Raohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MikeLynch. We look forward to your continued support and active participation in our activities. Report is present at http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Reports/November_2011_Report Best, On behalf of Wikimedia Chapter (India) Thanks, Naveen Francis Secretary, Wikimedia India Chapter [image: File:Wikimedia India logo.svg] http://wiki.wikimedia.in/ Notes: - 1) http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011 - 2) http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/12/02/wikiconference-india/ - 3) http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011/Community_and_Team - 4) http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011/Programs - 5)
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam
Yeah, I mean since most of the photographers there would not be knowing what commons is, I ll first give them presentation about commons and explain them public domain licensing in detail. -- Thanks Arnav (ricku). (User:Rangilo_Gujarati) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rangilo_Gujarati ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam
Dear Arnav, This is awesome! I was speaking to Hisham about compiling a repository of presentations and Simple English guides, keeping them in PDF versions so that people can use them whenever. I have some presentations on GLAM and commons, if you want I can send them over and you don't have to go through the trouble of making them again. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Arnav Sonara sonara.ar...@gmail.comwrote: Yeah, I mean since most of the photographers there would not be knowing what commons is, I ll first give them presentation about commons and explain them public domain licensing in detail. -- Thanks Arnav (ricku). (User:Rangilo_Gujarati) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rangilo_Gujarati ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Narayam updates
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 14:14, Santhosh Thottingal santhosh.thottin...@gmail.com wrote: We post the i18n deployment notes in Mediaiwiki-i18n list , one or two days before deployment. https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n This should help, Thanks. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam
Great Noopur. Good luck with your venture. -- On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:14 AM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Arnav, This is awesome! I was speaking to Hisham about compiling a repository of presentations and Simple English guides, keeping them in PDF versions so that people can use them whenever. I have some presentations on GLAM and commons, if you want I can send them over and you don't have to go through the trouble of making them again. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Arnav Sonara sonara.ar...@gmail.comwrote: Yeah, I mean since most of the photographers there would not be knowing what commons is, I ll first give them presentation about commons and explain them public domain licensing in detail. -- Thanks Arnav (ricku). (User:Rangilo_Gujarati) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rangilo_Gujarati ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on WikiKovai meet 1.
Heya, I logged into Facebook after a week to find out that Prasanna has psoted a detailed report on the meetup facebook event page. The link to the page is on the meetup page on Meta. Perhaps, Bala, Subha or Ansuman could copy it here It would explain things from a newcomers point of view. -- On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 12:41 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot Arjuna. I think February will be good as exams won't be there then. Meanwhile, I do hope that the Academy in Jan will help up increase the active community members in Coimbatore for further meetups to happen. On 12/14/11, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunar...@gmail.com wrote: Srikanth R, My previous discussion is about wiki academy for journalism students of Amrita institution in Coimbatore for Jan 2012. No such event happened in 2011. Getting regular meetups happen is a big challenge even in places like Bangalore. You can plan for once in two months or so to start with encourage people to edit, participate in nearby meetups, wiki academies, encourage membership in chapter to grow the movement on a sustainable basis. Cheers Arjuna Rao Chavala - Sent via mobile On Dec 14, 2011 11:10 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Heya, this just struck me. Arjuna mentioned to me that there was an Academy held in Coimbatore back in April 2011. Maybe, we could get guys from there to attend the next meetup, provided some experienced community member attends it. On 12/13/11, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the positive response guys. I'll try and arrange a meetup in the second week of January. Since the only two Wikipedians are out of town and it also will be Wikipedia Day, presence of a member of chapter or foundation would be welcome. On 12/13/11, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote: Very nice report. I hope to see more active wikipedians. And hope the community grows. You rock, Keep it up. Regards ansu * ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ansumang On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Heya all, This should've come in elaier but didn't as my lab was shut. To Pradeep, who's been asking for two days, And Noopur, the only other Wikipedian who asked about this meet. Our meetup was held at the KG Inst. of Tech [KITE] who offered us an A/C presentation hall for this event. KITE, is a part of KG Information Systems Ltd, one of the city's most respected IT establishments. The meetup space was offered by Mr. Ashok Bkathavatsalam himself, the MD of KGISL, who in turn was told about this meet by Gautam John and Venkat Mangudi. Thanks you two. The meetup started at 11am. We had ~14-15 attendees, out of which 8 or 9 were part of ILUGC Pondy [Indian Linux User Group Puducherry]. One Wikipedian saw the link to the meetup on my signature on an online forum SkyScraperCity and came from Chennai. Bala Jeyaraman, aka Sodabottle joined me a few minutes into the meetup and it was him who spoke for the rest of the day. Pre lunch, we basically spoke on how and why the Wikipedia model worked, the principles of the project, with Bala using the age old debate of whether Coimbatore or Madurai was the second largest city in Tamil Nadu as an example for verifiability. Bala explained the ease of typing in Tamil, etc. Post lunch, we were joined by two faculty members of KITE, while Mr. Ashok himself stepped in. Interestingly, he himself has an account on the English Wikipedia and contributes too. The meetup ended at around 4, we took a few photos. I shall ask Prasanna to upload them soon. It was a success, there were three existing Wikipedians, and the rest were interested newcomers. I wouldn't call it an academy though. We've not scheduled a meetup for January yet, as the most probable date is 15th Jan [Wikipedia Day] because both Bala and I won't be in town. If anyone from the chapter/foundation can help lead it, I can get people to attend and myself attend virtually thru Skype or so from Kakinada. Comments, suggestions most welcome. All brickbats my way, bouquets to Bala please. -- -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan, Sathyamangalam-Gobichettipalayam Star Gazers My Commons uploads, now exceeding 75. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Rsrikanth05 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th.
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Please add Sanskrit 2003 web font to Sanskrit Wikipedia
NonCommericial - I think use in Wikipedia is non-commerical. NoDerivs - Do the font need to be modified for using as web font? It is clearly stated that it can be used as a web font. 2011/12/15 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il Either of NonCommercial and NoDerivs clauses in the license make it invalid for usage in Wikimedia projects, because they limit the usage of the font. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore 2011/12/15 ePandit | ई-पण्डित sharma.shr...@gmail.com: In that case please add Sidhanta font to Sanskrit wikipedia, it has most feature rich font for Sanskrit. (Sanskrit 2003 is better in display) http://svayambhava.org/index.php/en/sanskrit/fonts Also it is clearly stated that it can be used as a web font. Siddhnata font software (including font variations and Vaidika IME) is published under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported License. Its Latin and Cyrillic glyph sets (based on DejaVu font can be used according to free license. Siddhanta can be used as a web font. 2011/12/14 Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 20:16, ePandit | ई-पण्डित sharma.shr...@gmail.com wrote: I just saw that web fonts facility have been added to Indic wikis. On Hindi and Sanskrit wikipedia, there are Lohit Devanagari and Samyak Devanagari fonts. I request to add Sanskrit 2003 web font to Sanskrit wikipedia (and if possible to other Devanagari script based wikis) because it is the best Unicode font to display Sanskrit text. It is also free, so there is no problem to use it for this purpose. As far as I could check, it is not a freely licensed font. They are only free for personal use. I could not find a clear license statement for it though, If you could find it, please point it to us. If its freely licensed, please file a bug request here[1] [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki%20extensionscomponent=WebFonts -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Shrish Benjwal Sharma (श्रीश बेंजवाल शर्मा) ~~~ If u can't beat them, join them. ePandit: http://epandit.shrish.in/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- *Shrish Benjwal Sharma* *(श्रीश बेंजवाल शर्मा http://hindi.shrish.in)* ~~~ *If u can't beat them, join them.* ePandit http://epandit.shrish.in/:* *http://epandit.shrish.in/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Please add Sanskrit 2003 web font to Sanskrit Wikipedia
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 4:40 PM, ePandit | ई-पण्डित sharma.shr...@gmail.com wrote: NoDerivs - Do the font need to be modified for using as web font? Yes, Derivative fonts in alternate formats need to be created from the original font. Thanks Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Please add Sanskrit 2003 web font to Sanskrit Wikipedia
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 16:40, ePandit | ई-पण्डित sharma.shr...@gmail.comwrote: NonCommericial - I think use in Wikipedia is non-commerical. Wikipedia use is non-commercial, but since it is open for reuse, the reuse need not be necessarily non-commercial. NoDerivs - Do the font need to be modified for using as web font? It is clearly stated that it can be used as a web font. 2011/12/15 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il Either of NonCommercial and NoDerivs clauses in the license make it invalid for usage in Wikimedia projects, because they limit the usage of the font. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore 2011/12/15 ePandit | ई-पण्डित sharma.shr...@gmail.com: In that case please add Sidhanta font to Sanskrit wikipedia, it has most feature rich font for Sanskrit. (Sanskrit 2003 is better in display) http://svayambhava.org/index.php/en/sanskrit/fonts Also it is clearly stated that it can be used as a web font. Siddhnata font software (including font variations and Vaidika IME) is published under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported License. Its Latin and Cyrillic glyph sets (based on DejaVu font can be used according to free license. Siddhanta can be used as a web font. 2011/12/14 Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 20:16, ePandit | ई-पण्डित sharma.shr...@gmail.com wrote: I just saw that web fonts facility have been added to Indic wikis. On Hindi and Sanskrit wikipedia, there are Lohit Devanagari and Samyak Devanagari fonts. I request to add Sanskrit 2003 web font to Sanskrit wikipedia (and if possible to other Devanagari script based wikis) because it is the best Unicode font to display Sanskrit text. It is also free, so there is no problem to use it for this purpose. As far as I could check, it is not a freely licensed font. They are only free for personal use. I could not find a clear license statement for it though, If you could find it, please point it to us. If its freely licensed, please file a bug request here[1] [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki%20extensionscomponent=WebFonts -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Shrish Benjwal Sharma (श्रीश बेंजवाल शर्मा) ~~~ If u can't beat them, join them. ePandit: http://epandit.shrish.in/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- *Shrish Benjwal Sharma* *(श्रीश बेंजवाल शर्मा http://hindi.shrish.in)* ~~~ *If u can't beat them, join them.* ePandit http://epandit.shrish.in/:* *http://epandit.shrish.in/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l Swaroop Rao (MikeLynch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeLynch) ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Please add Sanskrit 2003 web font to Sanskrit Wikipedia
2011/12/15 ePandit | ई-पण्डित sharma.shr...@gmail.com: NonCommericial - I think use in Wikipedia is non-commerical. No, Wikipedia is not non-commercial in this regard. It's a very frequent misunderstanding, though - the first article i created in the English Wikipedia was speedily deleted because of this ;) In short, materials brought into Wikipedia must be free for usage commercially, too. The full explanation is here: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Licensing_policy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NONCOM -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] mediawiki-uploader
Friends. Tamil Wikipedia announced a Media Contest to increase the commons media files like photos, audio and video in the wikipedia world. see the announcement here. http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contest/en To upload the photos there are two ways available so far. 1. The web based upload wizard http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard 2. Java based upload tool - Commonist http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Tools/Commonist We have to provide a detailed filename and description to the images for uploading. When we have a bunch of photos to upload, we have to select them, crop, or edit them before uploading. Found that that GThumb Image Viewer can show the files, edit the files and add IPTC tags to the images. We can view,edit,delete,rotate,crop and add the required Description and Title to the images for uploading to wikimedia commons. How to upload the files? There are two tools already. But, I wanted to plugin to any image viewer to upload to wikimedia commons directly. No image viewer has that plugin. DigiKam has it, but due to some issues, the mediawiki plugin is not released. So, I started to write my own script for uploading all the files in a folder to upload to mediawiki. Here is it. http://code.google.com/p/mediawiki-uploader/ Usage details are available in INSTALL and README files. Thanks for the wikipedia users Surya and Sodabottle for their valuable suggestions. Please report if there are any issues. Provide your suggestions for improving too. Thanks. -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com Free/Open Source Jobs : http://fossjobs.in Get CollabNet Subversion Edge : http://www.collab.net/svnedge ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] mediawiki-uploader
I've translated interface messages which are NECESSARY for the contest. But, these messages are not useful for now. :) But, I'll do this ASAP. :) Thanks Geard for notice it. :) Actually Shrinivasan didn't mentioned the contest upload wizard. It is here. ( http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadWizardcampaign=twmcuselang=ta ) Most of the messages have been translated. :) *$U®¥∩* http://goo.gl/RoMyo.com http://FirefoxSurya.blogspot.com http://about.me/suryaceg On 15 December 2011 05:23, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote: Hoi, Help yourself and the contestants by localising the last 150 messages of the UploadWizard. Thanks, GerardM http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translategroup=ext-uploadwizardlanguage=ta On 15 December 2011 14:10, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote: Friends. Tamil Wikipedia announced a Media Contest to increase the commons media files like photos, audio and video in the wikipedia world. see the announcement here. http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contest/en To upload the photos there are two ways available so far. 1. The web based upload wizard http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard 2. Java based upload tool - Commonist http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Tools/Commonist We have to provide a detailed filename and description to the images for uploading. When we have a bunch of photos to upload, we have to select them, crop, or edit them before uploading. Found that that GThumb Image Viewer can show the files, edit the files and add IPTC tags to the images. We can view,edit,delete,rotate,crop and add the required Description and Title to the images for uploading to wikimedia commons. How to upload the files? There are two tools already. But, I wanted to plugin to any image viewer to upload to wikimedia commons directly. No image viewer has that plugin. DigiKam has it, but due to some issues, the mediawiki plugin is not released. So, I started to write my own script for uploading all the files in a folder to upload to mediawiki. Here is it. http://code.google.com/p/mediawiki-uploader/ Usage details are available in INSTALL and README files. Thanks for the wikipedia users Surya and Sodabottle for their valuable suggestions. Please report if there are any issues. Provide your suggestions for improving too. Thanks. -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com Free/Open Source Jobs : http://fossjobs.in Get CollabNet Subversion Edge : http://www.collab.net/svnedge ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on WikiKovai meet 1.
Thanks for posting this here Bala. :-) Maybe we should print a few flyers with the Contest details, maybe even a QR Code about the contest and hand it over to whoever we see in public with a camera. ;-P On 12/15/11, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.com wrote: Per Srikanth's request: here is the report from Prasanna Venkatesh one of the attendees of the meetup as posted on the event's facebook page ( http://www.facebook.com/events/192614487481512/) Here i share what happened in Wikipedia meet up held at coimbatore: We arrived there at coimbatore by early morning and joined with new friends at coimbatore, Karthikeyan Savithrihttp://www.facebook.com/kalakkumkarthikeyanwho received us there with warm welcome and we entered into KGiSL campus around 11 am and the event started only after we arrived there. 1. Srikanth Ramakrishnan http://www.facebook.com/srikanth.ramakrishnanwho was the first speaker to start with meet up, shared his experience with us and to tell about him, he is editing wikipedia articles right from the age of 13 (8th standard) and now he has got around 10,000 articles being edited in the span of 6.5 years. 2. Arrived Mr. Bala, Admin and an active wikipedian especially handling Tamil section of wikipedia and he was an programmer in an MNC and now he is self-employed. Mr. Bala started with the basics of wikipedia and covered the following: i. What is wikipedia? ii. Wikipeida - by the people, of the people and for the people. iii. Advantage of wikipedia being let open for public editing. iv. Demo on how to become a user, contributor to wikipedia. v. General and basic rules for starting and writing an article with proper reference. vi. Tamizh wiki oodaga(media) poati - any one can participate and submit your own photography regarding Tamizh and its culture, people ect. and you have the chance to win US. 200$ vii. Tools like wikimedia (Mediawiki, wiki source, etc.) are discussed. viii. Technical part of wikipedia is discussed. Finally we had a Photo-session and greeted each other and it was good time together and we gained knowledge over how to contribute the above things and soon after at the evening we created a account for us in wikipedia.. and now roaming around with camera in hand :p On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot Arjuna. I think February will be good as exams won't be there then. Meanwhile, I do hope that the Academy in Jan will help up increase the active community members in Coimbatore for further meetups to happen. On 12/14/11, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunar...@gmail.com wrote: Srikanth R, My previous discussion is about wiki academy for journalism students of Amrita institution in Coimbatore for Jan 2012. No such event happened in 2011. Getting regular meetups happen is a big challenge even in places like Bangalore. You can plan for once in two months or so to start with encourage people to edit, participate in nearby meetups, wiki academies, encourage membership in chapter to grow the movement on a sustainable basis. Cheers Arjuna Rao Chavala - Sent via mobile On Dec 14, 2011 11:10 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Heya, this just struck me. Arjuna mentioned to me that there was an Academy held in Coimbatore back in April 2011. Maybe, we could get guys from there to attend the next meetup, provided some experienced community member attends it. On 12/13/11, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the positive response guys. I'll try and arrange a meetup in the second week of January. Since the only two Wikipedians are out of town and it also will be Wikipedia Day, presence of a member of chapter or foundation would be welcome. On 12/13/11, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote: Very nice report. I hope to see more active wikipedians. And hope the community grows. You rock, Keep it up. Regards ansu * ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ansumang On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Heya all, This should've come in elaier but didn't as my lab was shut. To Pradeep, who's been asking for two days, And Noopur, the only other Wikipedian who asked about this meet. Our meetup was held at the KG Inst. of Tech [KITE] who offered us an A/C presentation hall for this event. KITE, is a part of KG Information Systems Ltd, one of the city's most respected IT establishments. The meetup space was offered by Mr. Ashok Bkathavatsalam himself, the MD of KGISL, who in turn was told about this meet by Gautam John and Venkat Mangudi. Thanks you two. The meetup started at 11am. We had ~14-15 attendees, out of which 8 or 9 were part of ILUGC Pondy [Indian Linux User Group Puducherry]. One Wikipedian saw
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Narayam updates
I am not sure whether it is really required to post these changes every week here, because not every one is interested in reading the code changes. I hope the code review page helps to find out all the changes for an extension/component That is true. Community is definitely NOT interested to know the technical details of all the updates. But these type of changes (like the change in shortcut key) which affect the typing habit of users needs to be communicated to commuity (here Indic wikimedians), at least in this list. How you know On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Santhosh Thottingal santhosh.thottin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: Shortcut key on Mac :- Refer bug[1] for details, in summary the shortcut key is now dynamic based on browser / OS combination so that the shortcut works. Control+G is new shortcut on Mac largely. This was done during Hackathon. //Surprise surprise, more Indic users on mac :) Small correction, this fix was not done during hackathon, but before that. And for Opera in OSX, shortcut is control+command+m. There are more bugs reported by others and the software keeps changing, so If you want to follow Narayam in close detail, subscribe to the feed[3]. i18n team, Some of us know, you push i18n patches every Monday. Can you also give a feed for recent changes in patch *every week*, so we could see if something relevant to us changed in the patch and test so that we may not miss any regression caused and be quick to report issues. I know wikitech wiki has the logs somewhere on deployment(forgot now), but a plain text feed will help and save much time for many folks. We post the i18n deployment notes in Mediaiwiki-i18n list , one or two days before deployment. https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n Gerard blogs about the deployment , see http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/12/12/going-live-december-12-2011/ and he plans to do this blog post for every deployment. If anybody is interested particularly in some extension, they can follow all the commits to that path in subversion For eg: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Code/MediaWikipath=%2Ftrunk%2Fextensions%2FWebFonts gives all the code changes happened in webfonts. I am not sure whether it is really required to post these changes every week here, because not every one is interested in reading the code changes. I hope the code review page helps to find out all the changes for an extension/component Another way to find out planned revisions for i18ndeploy is looking at this tag: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/tag/i18ndeploy To those communities which don't have any input method solution :- Please invest some time, the returns are really great. Juniad / i18n team will help you get Narayam. Happy to help. -Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-chn] mediawiki-uploader
hi Shrinivasan, Sumana has forwarded this email to the cultural/GLAM list as well where there was need felt on batch uploads and people there might also benefit from what you've coded. Thank you. warm regards, Pradeep User:Prad2609 On 15 December 2011 20:25, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.comwrote: Hey Shrinivasan, this is brilliant. Bala had mentioned last week at our Coimbatore meetup that this fellow from ILUGC had uploaded 10 high definition shots before being dissatisfied with the upload tool and then went off to code his own. Congrats on your heroic efforts. Now, I can use this to tell photography friends who haven't contributed to the contest yet and say It's easier and that they have no excuse to not upload. Brilliant! Kudos on your amazing work. On 12/15/11, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: Hello Shrini, We never imagined someone developing tool/script for participating in the contest. Good work #WIN :) -- Regards Srikanth.L -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Pradeep Mohandas How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam
Hi Noopur, A good place to add them is http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf_Project Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Arnav, This is awesome! I was speaking to Hisham about compiling a repository of presentations and Simple English guides, keeping them in PDF versions so that people can use them whenever. I have some presentations on GLAM and commons, if you want I can send them over and you don't have to go through the trouble of making them again. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Arnav Sonara sonara.ar...@gmail.comwrote: Yeah, I mean since most of the photographers there would not be knowing what commons is, I ll first give them presentation about commons and explain them public domain licensing in detail. -- Thanks Arnav (ricku). (User:Rangilo_Gujarati) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rangilo_Gujarati ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam
For Arnav and others: I made a little something on Commons and photography (have avoided any wiki speak): http://prezi.com/qjfh338fxhum/the-wikiguide-for-photographers/ It's on prezi so you can edit and then put it in a ppt to share offline as well! On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Noopur, A good place to add them is http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf_Project Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Arnav, This is awesome! I was speaking to Hisham about compiling a repository of presentations and Simple English guides, keeping them in PDF versions so that people can use them whenever. I have some presentations on GLAM and commons, if you want I can send them over and you don't have to go through the trouble of making them again. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Arnav Sonara sonara.ar...@gmail.comwrote: Yeah, I mean since most of the photographers there would not be knowing what commons is, I ll first give them presentation about commons and explain them public domain licensing in detail. -- Thanks Arnav (ricku). (User:Rangilo_Gujarati) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rangilo_Gujarati ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-chn] mediawiki-uploader
Prad, thanks for sharing that with us. Let's hope this piece of code results in tons of freely licenced content pouring into the Commons. On 12/15/11, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: hi Shrinivasan, Sumana has forwarded this email to the cultural/GLAM list as well where there was need felt on batch uploads and people there might also benefit from what you've coded. Thank you. warm regards, Pradeep User:Prad2609 On 15 December 2011 20:25, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.comwrote: Hey Shrinivasan, this is brilliant. Bala had mentioned last week at our Coimbatore meetup that this fellow from ILUGC had uploaded 10 high definition shots before being dissatisfied with the upload tool and then went off to code his own. Congrats on your heroic efforts. Now, I can use this to tell photography friends who haven't contributed to the contest yet and say It's easier and that they have no excuse to not upload. Brilliant! Kudos on your amazing work. On 12/15/11, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: Hello Shrini, We never imagined someone developing tool/script for participating in the contest. Good work #WIN :) -- Regards Srikanth.L -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Pradeep Mohandas How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam
Hi, Nice work! I am not very at home in Prezi, so some suggestions by email: * Maybe it is better to call Wikimedia a movement to avoid confusion when they encounter Wikimedia India * In the file formats you seem to miss .OGG (sound/video) * It is probably better to never say Commons like we do, but always Wikimedia Commons. Otherwise people get confused with Creative Commons. * Is NPOV really relevant in Wikimedia Commons? * Suggesting to dig up archives is dangerous - we have some bad experiences in Israel with that. The danger is that they dig up photos taken by other people of themselves. Maybe reword to your old photographs and focus on authorship rather than (physical) ownership? * Maybe add something about Featured images: if they submit really good images, they might end up getting that status? Anyway, hope it is useful, Lodewijk No dia 15 de Dezembro de 2011 19:05, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.comescreveu: For Arnav and others: I made a little something on Commons and photography (have avoided any wiki speak): http://prezi.com/qjfh338fxhum/the-wikiguide-for-photographers/ It's on prezi so you can edit and then put it in a ppt to share offline as well! On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Noopur, A good place to add them is http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf_Project Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Arnav, This is awesome! I was speaking to Hisham about compiling a repository of presentations and Simple English guides, keeping them in PDF versions so that people can use them whenever. I have some presentations on GLAM and commons, if you want I can send them over and you don't have to go through the trouble of making them again. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Arnav Sonara sonara.ar...@gmail.comwrote: Yeah, I mean since most of the photographers there would not be knowing what commons is, I ll first give them presentation about commons and explain them public domain licensing in detail. -- Thanks Arnav (ricku). (User:Rangilo_Gujarati) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rangilo_Gujarati ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam
Hey, This presentation is not for audio/video. This came up since someone needed a presentation for Photographers. Why I have used Commons interchangeably is because I assume Arnav is going to speak to them about Licensing (Creative Commons) as well as Wikimedia Commons. That is why I kept two slides for both. I will change them to two clear slides in that case. For, NPOV and uploading policies, I was refering to this: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Project_scope Will change the archive bit too (thanks for the heads up!) And, Featured images should be an excellent end :) (thanks again, you shall be given a kitten soon!) Warmly Noopur On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.orgwrote: Hi, Nice work! I am not very at home in Prezi, so some suggestions by email: * Maybe it is better to call Wikimedia a movement to avoid confusion when they encounter Wikimedia India * In the file formats you seem to miss .OGG (sound/video) * It is probably better to never say Commons like we do, but always Wikimedia Commons. Otherwise people get confused with Creative Commons. * Is NPOV really relevant in Wikimedia Commons? * Suggesting to dig up archives is dangerous - we have some bad experiences in Israel with that. The danger is that they dig up photos taken by other people of themselves. Maybe reword to your old photographs and focus on authorship rather than (physical) ownership? * Maybe add something about Featured images: if they submit really good images, they might end up getting that status? Anyway, hope it is useful, Lodewijk No dia 15 de Dezembro de 2011 19:05, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.comescreveu: For Arnav and others: I made a little something on Commons and photography (have avoided any wiki speak): http://prezi.com/qjfh338fxhum/the-wikiguide-for-photographers/ It's on prezi so you can edit and then put it in a ppt to share offline as well! On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Noopur, A good place to add them is http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf_Project Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Arnav, This is awesome! I was speaking to Hisham about compiling a repository of presentations and Simple English guides, keeping them in PDF versions so that people can use them whenever. I have some presentations on GLAM and commons, if you want I can send them over and you don't have to go through the trouble of making them again. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Arnav Sonara sonara.ar...@gmail.comwrote: Yeah, I mean since most of the photographers there would not be knowing what commons is, I ll first give them presentation about commons and explain them public domain licensing in detail. -- Thanks Arnav (ricku). (User:Rangilo_Gujarati) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rangilo_Gujarati ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam
Thanks Srikanth the link you gave is the correct one. Though anybody reading my link will find the same in the very first line of text. :) Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a ton Noopur. Now atleast I'll have something to show when I invite the photography club for the next meetup. Ashwin, I believe, it's http://bookshelf.Wikimedia.org I read it at the back of the Welcome to Wikipedia Editors Guide. On 12/15/11, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: For Arnav and others: I made a little something on Commons and photography (have avoided any wiki speak): http://prezi.com/qjfh338fxhum/the-wikiguide-for-photographers/ It's on prezi so you can edit and then put it in a ppt to share offline as well! On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Noopur, A good place to add them is http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf_Project Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Arnav, This is awesome! I was speaking to Hisham about compiling a repository of presentations and Simple English guides, keeping them in PDF versions so that people can use them whenever. I have some presentations on GLAM and commons, if you want I can send them over and you don't have to go through the trouble of making them again. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Arnav Sonara sonara.ar...@gmail.comwrote: Yeah, I mean since most of the photographers there would not be knowing what commons is, I ll first give them presentation about commons and explain them public domain licensing in detail. -- Thanks Arnav (ricku). (User:Rangilo_Gujarati) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rangilo_Gujarati ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Webfonts deployment on Indic Wikiprojects
I haven't seen any communication in any open platform with Malayalam Community members about this matter. A few weeks before I had a brief discussion with Santhosh about webfonts. But it was nothing about webfonts' rendering bugs. Infact, popular (and beautiful) Malayalam fonts are open licensed, but there are other rendering bugs. Issue I raised was about an unnessessory char code change doing by webfonts which I felt a propaganda pushing in favor of his idea about some characters, and which need additional scripts on both client (= additional bandwidth) and server. But Santhosh quit the thread claiming my concerns are my pure imaginations. :) Naturally thread died. I know Malayalam Wikimedian 'Vssun' tried to have an open conversation on Gerard's talk page, after Gerard's notice, but didn't see any development. As far as now I know no one, who was sure about webfonts deployment on ml projects. I certainly do not want webfonts in its current form in any of the Malayalam Wikiprojects. But I want to know why Malayalam is excluded from this deployment and I want to know why such a code deployed on many other wikies. I personally don't like Santhosh's enthusiasm to fly his scripts on wikimedia servers, based on his I am correct, I am correct, I am the only correct attitude. If webfonts is too bad for your language, I urge you to file a bug for removing it. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: If you want to test something new, either make it opt in, or don't do it live. Not on Tamil, not on Hindi, not on any Wikipedia for that matter. On 12/14/11, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: I dont think its appropriate to be a bit more experimental. You are seeing the scale in absolute sense, we are seeing it in relative sense. Tamil Wikipedia is 7th most-viewed Tamil site. +1. Similar stats can be observed for most of the Indic language Wiki projects with sizable content as they are the only / major source of reference online for the respective languages. Ravi -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Webfonts deployment on Indic Wikiprojects
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Praveen Prakash me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't seen any communication in any open platform with Malayalam Community members about this matter. A few weeks before I had a brief discussion with Santhosh about webfonts. But it was nothing about webfonts' rendering bugs. Infact, popular (and beautiful) Malayalam fonts are open licensed, but there are other rendering bugs. Issue I raised was about an unnessessory char code change doing by webfonts which I felt a propaganda pushing in favor of his idea about some characters, and which need additional scripts on both client (= additional bandwidth) and server. But Santhosh quit the thread claiming my concerns are my pure imaginations. :) Naturally thread died. Praveen Do you mean this bug ? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29005 The bug speaks itself . From a quick reading I felt what you were asking is to use not properly forked font projects in webfonts, when santhosh took a stand to use fonts them from upstream. On Normalization of characters, it is an optional feature, for visibility of some chillus , that can be disabled in user settings if needed. It perfectly makes sense for me, since dual encoding is an issue in Malayalam , and the fix need to be on Unicode . The Webfonts hack is just a positive step and optional fix to ensure, people will not be missed from accessing knowledge in wikipedia , based on browser restrictions. Anivar I know Malayalam Wikimedian 'Vssun' tried to have an open conversation on Gerard's talk page, after Gerard's notice, but didn't see any development. As far as now I know no one, who was sure about webfonts deployment on ml projects. I certainly do not want webfonts in its current form in any of the Malayalam Wikiprojects. But I want to know why Malayalam is excluded from this deployment and I want to know why such a code deployed on many other wikies. I personally don't like Santhosh's enthusiasm to fly his scripts on wikimedia servers, based on his I am correct, I am correct, I am the only correct attitude. If webfonts is too bad for your language, I urge you to file a bug for removing it. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: If you want to test something new, either make it opt in, or don't do it live. Not on Tamil, not on Hindi, not on any Wikipedia for that matter. On 12/14/11, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: I dont think its appropriate to be a bit more experimental. You are seeing the scale in absolute sense, we are seeing it in relative sense. Tamil Wikipedia is 7th most-viewed Tamil site. +1. Similar stats can be observed for most of the Indic language Wiki projects with sizable content as they are the only / major source of reference online for the respective languages. Ravi -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- [It is not] possible to distinguish between 'numerical' and 'nonnumerical' algorithms, as if numbers were somehow different from other kinds of precise information. - Donald Knuth ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Webfonts deployment on Indic Wikiprojects
There is lot to say. But i don't want to derail this thread. Pls start a new thread. On 16/12/2011, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Praveen Prakash me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't seen any communication in any open platform with Malayalam Community members about this matter. A few weeks before I had a brief discussion with Santhosh about webfonts. But it was nothing about webfonts' rendering bugs. Infact, popular (and beautiful) Malayalam fonts are open licensed, but there are other rendering bugs. Issue I raised was about an unnessessory char code change doing by webfonts which I felt a propaganda pushing in favor of his idea about some characters, and which need additional scripts on both client (= additional bandwidth) and server. But Santhosh quit the thread claiming my concerns are my pure imaginations. :) Naturally thread died. Praveen Do you mean this bug ? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29005 The bug speaks itself . From a quick reading I felt what you were asking is to use not properly forked font projects in webfonts, when santhosh took a stand to use fonts them from upstream. On Normalization of characters, it is an optional feature, for visibility of some chillus , that can be disabled in user settings if needed. It perfectly makes sense for me, since dual encoding is an issue in Malayalam , and the fix need to be on Unicode . The Webfonts hack is just a positive step and optional fix to ensure, people will not be missed from accessing knowledge in wikipedia , based on browser restrictions. Anivar I know Malayalam Wikimedian 'Vssun' tried to have an open conversation on Gerard's talk page, after Gerard's notice, but didn't see any development. As far as now I know no one, who was sure about webfonts deployment on ml projects. I certainly do not want webfonts in its current form in any of the Malayalam Wikiprojects. But I want to know why Malayalam is excluded from this deployment and I want to know why such a code deployed on many other wikies. I personally don't like Santhosh's enthusiasm to fly his scripts on wikimedia servers, based on his I am correct, I am correct, I am the only correct attitude. If webfonts is too bad for your language, I urge you to file a bug for removing it. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: If you want to test something new, either make it opt in, or don't do it live. Not on Tamil, not on Hindi, not on any Wikipedia for that matter. On 12/14/11, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: I dont think its appropriate to be a bit more experimental. You are seeing the scale in absolute sense, we are seeing it in relative sense. Tamil Wikipedia is 7th most-viewed Tamil site. +1. Similar stats can be observed for most of the Indic language Wiki projects with sizable content as they are the only / major source of reference online for the respective languages. Ravi -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- [It is not] possible to distinguish between 'numerical' and 'nonnumerical' algorithms, as if numbers were somehow different from other kinds of precise information. - Donald Knuth ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- With love Praveen http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Praveenp:talkhttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Hindu : Contest to add files to Tamil Wikipedia gathers steam
Hi Tinu, Bala and team Very well written press release. Especially, I would like to appreciate Tinu's stellar role in media relations for Wikimedia projects in India :) Ravi On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 11:03 AM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: The article is on national editions of The Hindu newspaper and back cover page on many editions. * * *The Hindu : Contest to add files to Tamil Wikipedia gathers steam* http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/article2719118.ece?textsize=smalltest=2 *The Tamil Wikimedia community has organised an international contest to get more photos, videos and audios related to Tamil, Tamilians and Tamil culture to the Tamil Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons.* * * *The aim of the contest (themed “Eluthu mattum arivanru” or “Knowledge beyond text”) is “to increase the quality media content related to Tamil and Tamilians in Wikimedia projects, to attract non-text contributors such as photographers, graphic artists, animators, mapmakers and videographers to Tamil Wiki projects and to create a model precedent for cooperation with Wikimedia Foundation [WMF] in organising projects,” according to Bala Jeyaraman, Wikipedia volunteer and lead co-ordinator for the contest.* * * *People may send photos of places where Tamils reside, Tamil people themselves, studies, heritage symbols, institutions, species (plants and animals) and Diaspora; temples, places of worship and buildings. They can send educational resources such as files used to teach in Tamil. Also invited are maps, graphs, illustrations, diagrams, charts, audio and video files that contain explanations in Tamil, pronunciation files for Tamil words and phrases, audio recordings of literary works; audio and video recordings of Tamil cultural practices, arts, dances or sports.* * * *Foreign contribution* * * *Contributions were coming in from Sri Lanka, Malaysia, Norway, America, Canada, Germany and India, Mr. Jeyaraman said.* * * *Kalaiarasy Kugarajh, who lives in Norway, is one of five persons co-ordinating the project. She said she was delighted to know that a Tamil Wikipedia existed. Using an encyclopaedia online was convenient and, being of Tamil origin, she found getting information in Tamil very useful.* * * *She initially began contributing to the Tamil Wikipedia and then added to Tamil Wiktionary and other projects. She thought that contributing to Tamil content online could help Tamil people with limited knowledge of English or other languages. “Especially, when we live in a foreign country, we lack the printed version of books, and dictionaries, encyclopaedias in Tamil. To people who want to refer to something in Tamil or who want the Tamil meaning for something, or want some old Tamil writings, the Tamil Wikipedia and the sister projects are much helpful. The Tamil Diaspora can gain a lot from Tamil Wiki projects,” she said. Besides, storing information online was necessary and efficient.* * * *Categorisation* * * *“We are categorising the uploads and checking for any copyright violations. We have already started to make use of the suitable uploads in Wiki projects continuously too. Finally, we will evaluate the uploads to select the winners.” The contest, while increasing the media files on Tamil, would increase awareness among people of the Tamil Wiki as a source of information and get contributions from them to Tamil Wiki projects in future.* * * *Chennai student Surya Prakash S, who suggested the theme name of the contest, has uploaded more than 120 images taken on his campus (Anna University), photos of film stars and Chennai monuments.* * * *He said: “I just capture images using my cell phone and camera for this contest. I haven't chosen any subject at all. I just captured images that are useful for knowledge such as orchids and ‘bonsai' trees in the “Semmozhi Poonga” [botanical gardens] and some rare herbs from my native [home].”* * * *He was adding files as he “knows well the status of Tamil content in Internet.” The Tamil Nadu government should support such initiatives in its academic institutions to increase the student community's activity in the free, collaborative encyclopaedia-building project, he said.* * * *Prize money* * * *The Tamil Wikipedia Community and the WMF have sponsored a prize money of $850 (with nine prizes) for winners. (The first, second and third prizes are $200, $100 and $50. Three prizes of $100 each are for those uploading the maximum number of quality entries.* * * *A special prize of $150 is for media files on traditional Tamil arts and crafts.* * * *Winners would be announced on March 15, 2012 and they would get certificates with their entries displayed on the front pages of Tamil Wiki projects, said the invitation to contributors.* * * *The contest (http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/contest, November 15, 2011 to February 29, 2012) is open to all and is on
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-chn] mediawiki-uploader
Excellent effort, Shrinivasan. Please let us know how and where we can find more people like you ;) Ravi On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.comwrote: Friends. Tamil Wikipedia announced a Media Contest to increase the commons media files like photos, audio and video in the wikipedia world. see the announcement here. http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contest/en To upload the photos there are two ways available so far. 1. The web based upload wizard http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard 2. Java based upload tool - Commonist http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Tools/Commonist We have to provide a detailed filename and description to the images for uploading. When we have a bunch of photos to upload, we have to select them, crop, or edit them before uploading. Found that that GThumb Image Viewer can show the files, edit the files and add IPTC tags to the images. We can view,edit,delete,rotate,crop and add the required Description and Title to the images for uploading to wikimedia commons. How to upload the files? There are two tools already. But, I wanted to plugin to any image viewer to upload to wikimedia commons directly. No image viewer has that plugin. DigiKam has it, but due to some issues, the mediawiki plugin is not released. So, I started to write my own script for uploading all the files in a folder to upload to mediawiki. Here is it. http://code.google.com/p/mediawiki-uploader/ Usage details are available in INSTALL and README files. Thanks for the wikipedia users Surya and Sodabottle for their valuable suggestions. Please report if there are any issues. Provide your suggestions for improving too. Thanks. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Hindu : Contest to add files to Tamil Wikipedia gathers steam
what does the important note mean? does the hindu say not to reproduce? shall I forward this mail to other mailing lists ? or should not? ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Webfonts deployment on Indic Wikiprojects
Praveen Prakash +1 On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 09:46, Praveen Prakash me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: There is lot to say. But i don't want to derail this thread. Pls start a new thread. On 16/12/2011, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Praveen Prakash me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't seen any communication in any open platform with Malayalam Community members about this matter. A few weeks before I had a brief discussion with Santhosh about webfonts. But it was nothing about webfonts' rendering bugs. Infact, popular (and beautiful) Malayalam fonts are open licensed, but there are other rendering bugs. Issue I raised was about an unnessessory char code change doing by webfonts which I felt a propaganda pushing in favor of his idea about some characters, and which need additional scripts on both client (= additional bandwidth) and server. But Santhosh quit the thread claiming my concerns are my pure imaginations. :) Naturally thread died. Praveen Do you mean this bug ? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29005 The bug speaks itself . From a quick reading I felt what you were asking is to use not properly forked font projects in webfonts, when santhosh took a stand to use fonts them from upstream. On Normalization of characters, it is an optional feature, for visibility of some chillus , that can be disabled in user settings if needed. It perfectly makes sense for me, since dual encoding is an issue in Malayalam , and the fix need to be on Unicode . The Webfonts hack is just a positive step and optional fix to ensure, people will not be missed from accessing knowledge in wikipedia , based on browser restrictions. Anivar I know Malayalam Wikimedian 'Vssun' tried to have an open conversation on Gerard's talk page, after Gerard's notice, but didn't see any development. As far as now I know no one, who was sure about webfonts deployment on ml projects. I certainly do not want webfonts in its current form in any of the Malayalam Wikiprojects. But I want to know why Malayalam is excluded from this deployment and I want to know why such a code deployed on many other wikies. I personally don't like Santhosh's enthusiasm to fly his scripts on wikimedia servers, based on his I am correct, I am correct, I am the only correct attitude. If webfonts is too bad for your language, I urge you to file a bug for removing it. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: If you want to test something new, either make it opt in, or don't do it live. Not on Tamil, not on Hindi, not on any Wikipedia for that matter. On 12/14/11, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: I dont think its appropriate to be a bit more experimental. You are seeing the scale in absolute sense, we are seeing it in relative sense. Tamil Wikipedia is 7th most-viewed Tamil site. +1. Similar stats can be observed for most of the Indic language Wiki projects with sizable content as they are the only / major source of reference online for the respective languages. Ravi -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- [It is not] possible to distinguish between 'numerical' and 'nonnumerical' algorithms, as if numbers were somehow different from other kinds of precise information. - Donald Knuth ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- With love Praveen http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Praveenp:talk http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Hindu : Contest to add files to Tamil Wikipedia gathers steam
Hi Shrinivasan, Please note that the copyrights of the content of articles on publications ( newspapers, magazines) resides with the publisher. For example, look at the bottom of this article http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/article2719118.ece *Republication or redissemination of the contents of this screen are expressly prohibited without the written consent of The Hindu. * I am just sharing the contents of the article to the list in good faith, while at the same time acknowledging the copyrights of the original publisher. Treat it as a legal disclaimer from my side ! :) I have to do this as this is a publicly archived ( mirrored too ) mailing list. Share at own risk ! Regards Tinu Cherian On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.comwrote: the note means not to share to others. please don't add such notes. I May be wrong. please explain if so. thanks. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Hindu : Contest to add files to Tamil Wikipedia gathers steam
that nice tinu. thanks for the nice explanation. now it is clear for me. keep up your services. thanks. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
