[Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[Chitraparna Sinha]

*(Apologies for cross-posting)*


Dear community members,

Change is the only constant.

I wanted to take a moment to depart from my usual communications to you, to
share that 30 June 2023 will be my last day at the Wikimedia Foundation.
The Movement Strategy & Governance (MSG) team stands dissolved.

The past two years have been a whirlwind journey & I continue to be amazed
by the persistence, resilience, dedication, and kindness of our collective
South Asian community. I have had the privilege of meeting and knowing many
of you during WikiConference India 2023 and through online meetups.

Although my official role ends here, know that I will continue to remain
your ally and advocate for community development. Let’s keep pushing
boundaries, breaking barriers, and making a difference together.

Best regards,

Chitraparna Sinha

*Email* - chitraparn...@gmail.com

*Telegram* - @chitraparnasinha
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell from the Centre for Internet and Society

[Sailesh Patnaik]

Thank you everyone :)

*Sailesh Patnaik *"*ଶୈଳେଶ ପଟ୍ଟନାୟକ**"*
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On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 3:57 PM Jagseer Sidhu 
wrote:

> All the very best dear...
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019, 3:50 PM Dr. Manavpreet Kaur <
> dr.manavpreetk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sailesh
>>
>> I enjoyed working with you no matter it was for TTT or UNESCO . Wishing
>> you many more moments of celebration and many more dreams fulfilled.
>>
>> Manav
>>
>> On Wed, 10 Jul 2019, 15:45 Satpal Dandiwal, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> All the best my friend!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 3:17 PM Sailesh Patnaik <
>>> sailesh.patnaik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Dear Wikimedians and friends,

 As some of you might already know that I have left from my position of
 Community Advocate at the Centre for Internet and Society. My last working
 month with CIS was June 2019. I am taking a breaking from professional work
 to focus on my higher studies. I joined CIS-A2K when I was on my first year
 of the college and now I have recently graduated as a Mechanical engineer
 :D

 My journey with the CIS-A2K in the last 3 and half years were great, I
 had opportunity to work closely with Odia and Santali community, and also
 had opportunities to collaborate with many Indic Wikimedians on different
 projects. I also got to meet many of you during various national and
 international conferences.

 I would like to thank everyone in the movement for all their support
 and love they have given to me, especially to my team at the CIS-A2K and
 the Odia Wikimedia community. I worked under both Tanveer and Tito, they
 were always supportive and have had encouraged me to work on different
 projects and collaborations, from working with media houses, educational
 institutions, Government of Odisha, UNESCO and others.

 I will be still within the Wikimedia movement wearing different hats.
 This is my personal email address, feel free to reach out to me anytime
 over here or on social media channels.

 Dhanyabaad! :)

 *Sailesh Patnaik *"*ଶୈଳେଶ ପଟ୍ଟନାୟକ**"*
 https://www.linkedin.com/in/sailesh-patnaik-551a10b4
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell from the Centre for Internet and Society

[Jagseer Sidhu]

All the very best dear...

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019, 3:50 PM Dr. Manavpreet Kaur <
dr.manavpreetk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sailesh
>
> I enjoyed working with you no matter it was for TTT or UNESCO . Wishing
> you many more moments of celebration and many more dreams fulfilled.
>
> Manav
>
> On Wed, 10 Jul 2019, 15:45 Satpal Dandiwal,  wrote:
>
>> All the best my friend!
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 3:17 PM Sailesh Patnaik <
>> sailesh.patnaik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Wikimedians and friends,
>>>
>>> As some of you might already know that I have left from my position of
>>> Community Advocate at the Centre for Internet and Society. My last working
>>> month with CIS was June 2019. I am taking a breaking from professional work
>>> to focus on my higher studies. I joined CIS-A2K when I was on my first year
>>> of the college and now I have recently graduated as a Mechanical engineer
>>> :D
>>>
>>> My journey with the CIS-A2K in the last 3 and half years were great, I
>>> had opportunity to work closely with Odia and Santali community, and also
>>> had opportunities to collaborate with many Indic Wikimedians on different
>>> projects. I also got to meet many of you during various national and
>>> international conferences.
>>>
>>> I would like to thank everyone in the movement for all their support and
>>> love they have given to me, especially to my team at the CIS-A2K and the
>>> Odia Wikimedia community. I worked under both Tanveer and Tito, they were
>>> always supportive and have had encouraged me to work on different projects
>>> and collaborations, from working with media houses, educational
>>> institutions, Government of Odisha, UNESCO and others.
>>>
>>> I will be still within the Wikimedia movement wearing different hats.
>>> This is my personal email address, feel free to reach out to me anytime
>>> over here or on social media channels.
>>>
>>> Dhanyabaad! :)
>>>
>>> *Sailesh Patnaik *"*ଶୈଳେଶ ପଟ୍ଟନାୟକ**"*
>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/sailesh-patnaik-551a10b4
>>> *Twitter*: @saileshpat
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell from the Centre for Internet and Society

[Rajeeb Dutta]

Sailesh, it is always good to meet you online and offline, I wish you all the 
best for all your future endeavours.

Best Regards,
Rajeeb Dutta.
(U: Marajozkee)
Sent from my iPhone 

> On 10-Jul-2019, at 3:49 PM, Dr. Manavpreet Kaur  
> wrote:
> 
> Sailesh
> 
> I enjoyed working with you no matter it was for TTT or UNESCO . Wishing you 
> many more moments of celebration and many more dreams fulfilled. 
> 
> Manav
> 
>> On Wed, 10 Jul 2019, 15:45 Satpal Dandiwal,  wrote:
>> All the best my friend! 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 3:17 PM Sailesh Patnaik 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Dear Wikimedians and friends,
>>> 
>>> As some of you might already know that I have left from my position of 
>>> Community Advocate at the Centre for Internet and Society. My last working 
>>> month with CIS was June 2019. I am taking a breaking from professional work 
>>> to focus on my higher studies. I joined CIS-A2K when I was on my first year 
>>> of the college and now I have recently graduated as a Mechanical engineer 
>>> :D 
>>> 
>>> My journey with the CIS-A2K in the last 3 and half years were great, I had 
>>> opportunity to work closely with Odia and Santali community, and also had 
>>> opportunities to collaborate with many Indic Wikimedians on different 
>>> projects. I also got to meet many of you during various national and 
>>> international conferences.
>>> 
>>> I would like to thank everyone in the movement for all their support and 
>>> love they have given to me, especially to my team at the CIS-A2K and the 
>>> Odia Wikimedia community. I worked under both Tanveer and Tito, they were 
>>> always supportive and have had encouraged me to work on different projects 
>>> and collaborations, from working with media houses, educational 
>>> institutions, Government of Odisha, UNESCO and others.
>>> 
>>> I will be still within the Wikimedia movement wearing different hats. This 
>>> is my personal email address, feel free to reach out to me anytime over 
>>> here or on social media channels. 
>>> 
>>> Dhanyabaad! :) 
>>> 
>>> Sailesh Patnaik "ଶୈଳେଶ ପଟ୍ଟନାୟକ"
>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/sailesh-patnaik-551a10b4
>>> Twitter: @saileshpat
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell from the Centre for Internet and Society

[Dr. Manavpreet Kaur]

Sailesh

I enjoyed working with you no matter it was for TTT or UNESCO . Wishing you
many more moments of celebration and many more dreams fulfilled.

Manav

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019, 15:45 Satpal Dandiwal,  wrote:

> All the best my friend!
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 3:17 PM Sailesh Patnaik <
> sailesh.patnaik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Wikimedians and friends,
>>
>> As some of you might already know that I have left from my position of
>> Community Advocate at the Centre for Internet and Society. My last working
>> month with CIS was June 2019. I am taking a breaking from professional work
>> to focus on my higher studies. I joined CIS-A2K when I was on my first year
>> of the college and now I have recently graduated as a Mechanical engineer
>> :D
>>
>> My journey with the CIS-A2K in the last 3 and half years were great, I
>> had opportunity to work closely with Odia and Santali community, and also
>> had opportunities to collaborate with many Indic Wikimedians on different
>> projects. I also got to meet many of you during various national and
>> international conferences.
>>
>> I would like to thank everyone in the movement for all their support and
>> love they have given to me, especially to my team at the CIS-A2K and the
>> Odia Wikimedia community. I worked under both Tanveer and Tito, they were
>> always supportive and have had encouraged me to work on different projects
>> and collaborations, from working with media houses, educational
>> institutions, Government of Odisha, UNESCO and others.
>>
>> I will be still within the Wikimedia movement wearing different hats.
>> This is my personal email address, feel free to reach out to me anytime
>> over here or on social media channels.
>>
>> Dhanyabaad! :)
>>
>> *Sailesh Patnaik *"*ଶୈଳେଶ ପଟ୍ଟନାୟକ**"*
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/sailesh-patnaik-551a10b4
>> *Twitter*: @saileshpat
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell from the Centre for Internet and Society

[Satpal Dandiwal]

All the best my friend!

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 3:17 PM Sailesh Patnaik <
sailesh.patnaik...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Wikimedians and friends,
>
> As some of you might already know that I have left from my position of
> Community Advocate at the Centre for Internet and Society. My last working
> month with CIS was June 2019. I am taking a breaking from professional work
> to focus on my higher studies. I joined CIS-A2K when I was on my first year
> of the college and now I have recently graduated as a Mechanical engineer
> :D
>
> My journey with the CIS-A2K in the last 3 and half years were great, I had
> opportunity to work closely with Odia and Santali community, and also had
> opportunities to collaborate with many Indic Wikimedians on different
> projects. I also got to meet many of you during various national and
> international conferences.
>
> I would like to thank everyone in the movement for all their support and
> love they have given to me, especially to my team at the CIS-A2K and the
> Odia Wikimedia community. I worked under both Tanveer and Tito, they were
> always supportive and have had encouraged me to work on different projects
> and collaborations, from working with media houses, educational
> institutions, Government of Odisha, UNESCO and others.
>
> I will be still within the Wikimedia movement wearing different hats. This
> is my personal email address, feel free to reach out to me anytime over
> here or on social media channels.
>
> Dhanyabaad! :)
>
> *Sailesh Patnaik *"*ଶୈଳେଶ ପଟ୍ଟନାୟକ**"*
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/sailesh-patnaik-551a10b4
> *Twitter*: @saileshpat
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell from the Centre for Internet and Society

[Ashwin Baindur]

All the best, brother. One can leave an organization, hut one is a
Wikipedian for life! 😄

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019, 3:17 PM Sailesh Patnaik 
wrote:

> Dear Wikimedians and friends,
>
> As some of you might already know that I have left from my position of
> Community Advocate at the Centre for Internet and Society. My last working
> month with CIS was June 2019. I am taking a breaking from professional work
> to focus on my higher studies. I joined CIS-A2K when I was on my first year
> of the college and now I have recently graduated as a Mechanical engineer
> :D
>
> My journey with the CIS-A2K in the last 3 and half years were great, I had
> opportunity to work closely with Odia and Santali community, and also had
> opportunities to collaborate with many Indic Wikimedians on different
> projects. I also got to meet many of you during various national and
> international conferences.
>
> I would like to thank everyone in the movement for all their support and
> love they have given to me, especially to my team at the CIS-A2K and the
> Odia Wikimedia community. I worked under both Tanveer and Tito, they were
> always supportive and have had encouraged me to work on different projects
> and collaborations, from working with media houses, educational
> institutions, Government of Odisha, UNESCO and others.
>
> I will be still within the Wikimedia movement wearing different hats. This
> is my personal email address, feel free to reach out to me anytime over
> here or on social media channels.
>
> Dhanyabaad! :)
>
> *Sailesh Patnaik *"*ଶୈଳେଶ ପଟ୍ଟନାୟକ**"*
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/sailesh-patnaik-551a10b4
> *Twitter*: @saileshpat
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell from the Centre for Internet and Society

[Sailesh Patnaik]

Dear Wikimedians and friends,

As some of you might already know that I have left from my position of
Community Advocate at the Centre for Internet and Society. My last working
month with CIS was June 2019. I am taking a breaking from professional work
to focus on my higher studies. I joined CIS-A2K when I was on my first year
of the college and now I have recently graduated as a Mechanical engineer
:D

My journey with the CIS-A2K in the last 3 and half years were great, I had
opportunity to work closely with Odia and Santali community, and also had
opportunities to collaborate with many Indic Wikimedians on different
projects. I also got to meet many of you during various national and
international conferences.

I would like to thank everyone in the movement for all their support and
love they have given to me, especially to my team at the CIS-A2K and the
Odia Wikimedia community. I worked under both Tanveer and Tito, they were
always supportive and have had encouraged me to work on different projects
and collaborations, from working with media houses, educational
institutions, Government of Odisha, UNESCO and others.

I will be still within the Wikimedia movement wearing different hats. This
is my personal email address, feel free to reach out to me anytime over
here or on social media channels.

Dhanyabaad! :)

*Sailesh Patnaik *"*ଶୈଳେଶ ପଟ୍ଟନାୟକ**"*
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sailesh-patnaik-551a10b4
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell, Sowmyan !

[Jayantilal Kothari]

Keep up the good work Sowmyan!

On 12/7/14, pavithran  wrote:
> On 25 November 2014 at 08:53, Ravishankar Ayyakkannu
>  wrote:
>
>> Please join me in wishing a fond farewell for Sowmyan as he is getting
>> relieved from his role as an Executive Manager for Wikimedia India.
>
>
> Farewell Sowmyan , you were the backbone of the community. Hope you
> continue contributing in other forms.
>
> Regards,
> Pavithran
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell, Sowmyan !

[pavithran]

On 25 November 2014 at 08:53, Ravishankar Ayyakkannu
 wrote:

> Please join me in wishing a fond farewell for Sowmyan as he is getting
> relieved from his role as an Executive Manager for Wikimedia India.


Farewell Sowmyan , you were the backbone of the community. Hope you
continue contributing in other forms.

Regards,
Pavithran

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell, Sowmyan !

[Arnav Sonara]

I have communicated with him over the years, had a chance to meet him once
only. Very humble person, assisted the community in the need of hour.
You'll be missed. Thank You Sowmyan.

Thanks,
Arnav .
(User:Rangilo_Gujarati) 
.

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Abhinav Garule 
wrote:

> Thank you very much Sowmyan for your support and contribution to Wiki
> India Chapter... :)
>
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:08 PM, ansuman  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Sowmyan for all your work at Chapter. Hope to see you continuing
>> as a community member. I also remember the interaction we had when you
>> helped by dropping me off after a meet up. :-)
>>
>> Regards,
>> On 25-Nov-2014 7:53 pm, "Dhaval S. Vyas"  wrote:
>>
>>> You will certainly be missed Sowmyan! I've witnessed your way of working
>>> and assisting communities and can endorse that hardly many people would do
>>> that.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dhaval
>>> On 25 Nov 2014 07:54, "Ravishankar Ayyakkannu" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 Please join me in wishing a fond farewell for Sowmyan as he is getting
 relieved from his role as an Executive Manager for Wikimedia India
 .

 His 40 years of experience and wisdom served the movement well when we
 were going through a crucial phase. Those who were closely involved with
 the chapter operations know that he went many miles beyond the call of his
 duty.

 Sowmyan has promised to serve the movement as a community member and I
 greatly look forward to it.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell, Sowmyan !

[Abhinav Garule]

Thank you very much Sowmyan for your support and contribution to Wiki India
Chapter... :)

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:08 PM, ansuman  wrote:

> Thanks Sowmyan for all your work at Chapter. Hope to see you continuing as
> a community member. I also remember the interaction we had when you helped
> by dropping me off after a meet up. :-)
>
> Regards,
> On 25-Nov-2014 7:53 pm, "Dhaval S. Vyas"  wrote:
>
>> You will certainly be missed Sowmyan! I've witnessed your way of working
>> and assisting communities and can endorse that hardly many people would do
>> that.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dhaval
>> On 25 Nov 2014 07:54, "Ravishankar Ayyakkannu" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Please join me in wishing a fond farewell for Sowmyan as he is getting
>>> relieved from his role as an Executive Manager for Wikimedia India
>>> .
>>>
>>> His 40 years of experience and wisdom served the movement well when we
>>> were going through a crucial phase. Those who were closely involved with
>>> the chapter operations know that he went many miles beyond the call of his
>>> duty.
>>>
>>> Sowmyan has promised to serve the movement as a community member and I
>>> greatly look forward to it.
>>>
>>> Ravi
>>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell, Sowmyan !

[ansuman]

Thanks Sowmyan for all your work at Chapter. Hope to see you continuing as
a community member. I also remember the interaction we had when you helped
by dropping me off after a meet up. :-)

Regards,
On 25-Nov-2014 7:53 pm, "Dhaval S. Vyas"  wrote:

> You will certainly be missed Sowmyan! I've witnessed your way of working
> and assisting communities and can endorse that hardly many people would do
> that.
>
> Regards,
> Dhaval
> On 25 Nov 2014 07:54, "Ravishankar Ayyakkannu" 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Please join me in wishing a fond farewell for Sowmyan as he is getting
>> relieved from his role as an Executive Manager for Wikimedia India
>> .
>>
>> His 40 years of experience and wisdom served the movement well when we
>> were going through a crucial phase. Those who were closely involved with
>> the chapter operations know that he went many miles beyond the call of his
>> duty.
>>
>> Sowmyan has promised to serve the movement as a community member and I
>> greatly look forward to it.
>>
>> Ravi
>>
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[Dhaval S. Vyas]

You will certainly be missed Sowmyan! I've witnessed your way of working
and assisting communities and can endorse that hardly many people would do
that.

Regards,
Dhaval
On 25 Nov 2014 07:54, "Ravishankar Ayyakkannu" 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Please join me in wishing a fond farewell for Sowmyan as he is getting
> relieved from his role as an Executive Manager for Wikimedia India
> .
>
> His 40 years of experience and wisdom served the movement well when we
> were going through a crucial phase. Those who were closely involved with
> the chapter operations know that he went many miles beyond the call of his
> duty.
>
> Sowmyan has promised to serve the movement as a community member and I
> greatly look forward to it.
>
> Ravi
>
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell, Sowmyan !

[Rohini Lakshané]

Farewell Sowmyan! You will be missed. Thank you for everything.

-- Rohini


Rohini Lakshané
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On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Ashwin Baindur 
wrote:

> Thanks, Sowmyan, your contributions have gone largely unsung.
>
> Ashwin
>
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Anwar Hussain 
> wrote:
>
>> Had the chance to meet him during the course of a Wiki-GLAM at National
>> Museum New Delhi.In fact he is the person who introduced me to this mailing
>> list in the first place. A very humble person he is indeed. Wish him all
>> the very best. :)
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:53 AM, Ravishankar Ayyakkannu <
>> ravidre...@wikimedia.in> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Please join me in wishing a fond farewell for Sowmyan as he is getting
>>> relieved from his role as an Executive Manager for Wikimedia India
>>> .
>>>
>>> His 40 years of experience and wisdom served the movement well when we
>>> were going through a crucial phase. Those who were closely involved with
>>> the chapter operations know that he went many miles beyond the call of his
>>> duty.
>>>
>>> Sowmyan has promised to serve the movement as a community member and I
>>> greatly look forward to it.
>>>
>>> Ravi
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> --
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>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell, Sowmyan !

[Ashwin Baindur]

Thanks, Sowmyan, your contributions have gone largely unsung.

Ashwin

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Anwar Hussain  wrote:

> Had the chance to meet him during the course of a Wiki-GLAM at National
> Museum New Delhi.In fact he is the person who introduced me to this mailing
> list in the first place. A very humble person he is indeed. Wish him all
> the very best. :)
>
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:53 AM, Ravishankar Ayyakkannu <
> ravidre...@wikimedia.in> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Please join me in wishing a fond farewell for Sowmyan as he is getting
>> relieved from his role as an Executive Manager for Wikimedia India
>> .
>>
>> His 40 years of experience and wisdom served the movement well when we
>> were going through a crucial phase. Those who were closely involved with
>> the chapter operations know that he went many miles beyond the call of his
>> duty.
>>
>> Sowmyan has promised to serve the movement as a community member and I
>> greatly look forward to it.
>>
>> Ravi
>>
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell, Sowmyan !

[Anwar Hussain]

Had the chance to meet him during the course of a Wiki-GLAM at National
Museum New Delhi.In fact he is the person who introduced me to this mailing
list in the first place. A very humble person he is indeed. Wish him all
the very best. :)

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:53 AM, Ravishankar Ayyakkannu <
ravidre...@wikimedia.in> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Please join me in wishing a fond farewell for Sowmyan as he is getting
> relieved from his role as an Executive Manager for Wikimedia India
> .
>
> His 40 years of experience and wisdom served the movement well when we
> were going through a crucial phase. Those who were closely involved with
> the chapter operations know that he went many miles beyond the call of his
> duty.
>
> Sowmyan has promised to serve the movement as a community member and I
> greatly look forward to it.
>
> Ravi
>
>
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell, Sowmyan !

[Ravishankar Ayyakkannu]

Hi,

Please join me in wishing a fond farewell for Sowmyan as he is getting
relieved from his role as an Executive Manager for Wikimedia India
.

His 40 years of experience and wisdom served the movement well when we were
going through a crucial phase. Those who were closely involved with the
chapter operations know that he went many miles beyond the call of his
duty.

Sowmyan has promised to serve the movement as a community member and I
greatly look forward to it.

Ravi
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[Arnav Sonara]

Alright,

Thanks for clarification :-)

Thanks,
Arnav .
(User:Rangilo_Gujarati) 
.


On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:58 PM, Pradeep Mohandas <
pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Arnav,
>
> Please refer to Sowmyan's email dt 09/07/2014 to know more about the
> Programme Director's position -
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2014-July/011434.html
>
> Warm regards,
> Pradeep Mohandas
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 03-Sep-2014, at 2:42, Arnav Sonara  wrote:
> >
> > Sad to hear that you're leaving EC. Wishes for your life ahead!
> >
> > May we know, what do you (or EC) mean by Program Director?
> >
> > As per another thread on the list, Jayanta Nath is the new President
> > of Wikimedia India Chapter, and he informed that any new hiring by
> > WMIN is kept on hold for now. Could someone please clarify? Thanks.
> > Thanks,
> > Arnav.
> > (User:Rangilo_Gujarati).
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
> >  wrote:
> >> Dear EC, Members of the Chapter,
> >> I am not pleased with the way things are working out right now. The EC
> >> passed a resolution to appoint a senior Indic language Wikipedian as the
> >> Program Director on the recommendation of a four member committee
> consisting
> >> of Jayanta, Sudhanwa, Moksh, and Naveen for a probation period of three
> >> months, starting on the 1st of September 2014. Subsequently, the newly
> >> reorganised EC has done every bit to prevent the appointment of said
> person.
> >> It is with extreme displeasure that I have to state that this kind of
> >> nepotism at the hands of vested interests prevents me from working
> well. Due
> >> to this, I am resigning as an member of the Executive Committee with
> >> immediate effect.
> >>
> >> --
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> >> Treasurer,
> >> Wikimedia Chapter [India]
> >>
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[Pradeep Mohandas]

Arnav,

For reference to the Programme Director, please refer to Sowmyan's email dt 
09/07/2014 - 
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2014-July/011434.html

Warm regards,
Pradeep

Sent from my iPhone

> On 03-Sep-2014, at 2:42, Arnav Sonara  wrote:
> 
> Sad to hear that you're leaving EC. Wishes for your life ahead!
> 
> May we know, what do you (or EC) mean by Program Director?
> 
> As per another thread on the list, Jayanta Nath is the new President
> of Wikimedia India Chapter, and he informed that any new hiring by
> WMIN is kept on hold for now. Could someone please clarify? Thanks.
> Thanks,
> Arnav.
> (User:Rangilo_Gujarati).
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
>  wrote:
>> Dear EC, Members of the Chapter,
>> I am not pleased with the way things are working out right now. The EC
>> passed a resolution to appoint a senior Indic language Wikipedian as the
>> Program Director on the recommendation of a four member committee consisting
>> of Jayanta, Sudhanwa, Moksh, and Naveen for a probation period of three
>> months, starting on the 1st of September 2014. Subsequently, the newly
>> reorganised EC has done every bit to prevent the appointment of said person.
>> It is with extreme displeasure that I have to state that this kind of
>> nepotism at the hands of vested interests prevents me from working well. Due
>> to this, I am resigning as an member of the Executive Committee with
>> immediate effect.
>> 
>> --
>> Srikanth Ramakrishnan
>> Treasurer,
>> Wikimedia Chapter [India]
>> 
>> Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter today
>> 
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[Pradeep Mohandas]

Arnav,

Please refer to Sowmyan's email dt 09/07/2014 to know more about the Programme 
Director's position - 
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2014-July/011434.html

Warm regards,
Pradeep Mohandas

Sent from my iPhone

> On 03-Sep-2014, at 2:42, Arnav Sonara  wrote:
> 
> Sad to hear that you're leaving EC. Wishes for your life ahead!
> 
> May we know, what do you (or EC) mean by Program Director?
> 
> As per another thread on the list, Jayanta Nath is the new President
> of Wikimedia India Chapter, and he informed that any new hiring by
> WMIN is kept on hold for now. Could someone please clarify? Thanks.
> Thanks,
> Arnav.
> (User:Rangilo_Gujarati).
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
>  wrote:
>> Dear EC, Members of the Chapter,
>> I am not pleased with the way things are working out right now. The EC
>> passed a resolution to appoint a senior Indic language Wikipedian as the
>> Program Director on the recommendation of a four member committee consisting
>> of Jayanta, Sudhanwa, Moksh, and Naveen for a probation period of three
>> months, starting on the 1st of September 2014. Subsequently, the newly
>> reorganised EC has done every bit to prevent the appointment of said person.
>> It is with extreme displeasure that I have to state that this kind of
>> nepotism at the hands of vested interests prevents me from working well. Due
>> to this, I am resigning as an member of the Executive Committee with
>> immediate effect.
>> 
>> --
>> Srikanth Ramakrishnan
>> Treasurer,
>> Wikimedia Chapter [India]
>> 
>> Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter today
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[Jayanta Nath]

Dear all Member,

I have accepted the resignation of Mr. Srikanth Ramakrishnan. I thank him
for all his hard work that he have done while serving on the board
Treasurer and I am sure that he will continue to support the movement.

Regards,

Jayanta Nath
President,
Wikimedia India Chapter



On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
srik.r...@wikimedia.in> wrote:

> Dear EC, Members of the Chapter,
> I am not pleased with the way things are working out right now. The EC
> passed a resolution to appoint a senior Indic language Wikipedian as the
> Program Director on the recommendation of a four member committee
> consisting of Jayanta, Sudhanwa, Moksh, and Naveen for a probation period
> of three months, starting on the 1st of September 2014. Subsequently, the
> newly reorganised EC has done every bit to prevent the appointment of said
> person. It is with extreme displeasure that I have to state that this kind
> of nepotism at the hands of vested interests prevents me from working well.
> Due to this, I am resigning as an member of the Executive Committee with
> immediate effect.
>
> --
> Srikanth Ramakrishnan
> Treasurer,
> Wikimedia Chapter [India]
>
> Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter today
> 
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[Arnav Sonara]

Sad to hear that you're leaving EC. Wishes for your life ahead!

May we know, what do you (or EC) mean by Program Director?

As per another thread on the list, Jayanta Nath is the new President
of Wikimedia India Chapter, and he informed that any new hiring by
WMIN is kept on hold for now. Could someone please clarify? Thanks.
Thanks,
Arnav.
(User:Rangilo_Gujarati).


On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
 wrote:
> Dear EC, Members of the Chapter,
> I am not pleased with the way things are working out right now. The EC
> passed a resolution to appoint a senior Indic language Wikipedian as the
> Program Director on the recommendation of a four member committee consisting
> of Jayanta, Sudhanwa, Moksh, and Naveen for a probation period of three
> months, starting on the 1st of September 2014. Subsequently, the newly
> reorganised EC has done every bit to prevent the appointment of said person.
> It is with extreme displeasure that I have to state that this kind of
> nepotism at the hands of vested interests prevents me from working well. Due
> to this, I am resigning as an member of the Executive Committee with
> immediate effect.
>
> --
> Srikanth Ramakrishnan
> Treasurer,
> Wikimedia Chapter [India]
>
> Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter today
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[Srikanth Ramakrishnan]

Dear EC, Members of the Chapter,
I am not pleased with the way things are working out right now. The EC
passed a resolution to appoint a senior Indic language Wikipedian as the
Program Director on the recommendation of a four member committee
consisting of Jayanta, Sudhanwa, Moksh, and Naveen for a probation period
of three months, starting on the 1st of September 2014. Subsequently, the
newly reorganised EC has done every bit to prevent the appointment of said
person. It is with extreme displeasure that I have to state that this kind
of nepotism at the hands of vested interests prevents me from working well.
Due to this, I am resigning as an member of the Executive Committee with
immediate effect.

-- 
Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Treasurer,
Wikimedia Chapter [India]

Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter today

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[Vikram Vincent]

Hello all,
I think it is important to analyse issues objectively rather than
subjectively if we want to go forward and learn from our experiences.
We bring with us into our professional lives our personal strengths
and weaknesses as we are human.  Criticism is good. Constructive
criticism of both others and ourselves is important if we want to
improve the movement.  Let us move on as better human beings.
Thanks Hisham for your contribution.
With warm wishes,
-- 
Vikram Vincent
09969249984 (Mumbai)
09448810822 (Bangalore)

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[വിശ്വപ്രഭ]

*#1.*

There is always a way to look at happenings positively. Even falls and
failures, if at all they do happen, are valuable lessons!

To me, that is the greatest lesson and principle I have learnt from editing
Wikipedia itself. Wikipedia constantly compelled me to realize my own
mistakes (edits) and correct. Every instance of them was a positive
milestone.


*#2.*

On lamenting about stillborn help, just as a matter of fact and point of
order:

In our small community, we are very much aware of the possible help (*and
our standard rights and privileges to that*) from chapter or IP/foundation.

But so far,
when we need help, we do not yearn for that from higher ups.

Instead, we seek help from 'bottom downs'.

Instead of San Francisco, Delhi or Bangalore, we try, get and accomplish
assistance from little kids and humble rural people.
And that we get immensely.
(And vice versa, our community members have helped the chapter

We have been able to digitize and upsource entire volumes of ancient texts
to our Wikisources and elsewhere through pleasant collaboration from
primary school kids from hitherto unknown villages.

Our most successful outreach programs were conducted by infrastructural and
program assistance from barely internet-powered commons.


Perhaps, the only time we have sought help or assistance from chapter / IP
/ WMF was when we conducted our massive outreach program
(Wikisangamotsavam) a few months back. And we are very content and thankful
for whatever they provided. We even did not distinguish who among them were
providing.

My humble opinion: Grow your community bottom up. Grow self-reliant as far
as possible. Your rights will always be reserved and accumulated for more
needy and pressing occasions.

-just a bottom level community member from ml.wikipedia.org



On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Ravishankar  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Whatever has been done through the IP, both the community and WMF are
>> equally responsible. It is not good to attribute failure or sucess to
>> anyone.
>>
>
> When some one is leaving any movement, it is basic courtesy to wish him
>> well. By doing so, he or she will have good memories of the movement and
>> may remain a life long ambassador for us. This is not the time to evaluate
>> anyone's performance.
>>
>> Ravi
>>
>
Ravi +1.
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[Ravishankar]

Hi all,

Whatever has been done through the IP, both the community and WMF are
equally responsible. It is not good to attribute failure or sucess to
anyone.

When some one is leaving any movement, it is basic courtesy to wish him
well. By doing so, he or she will have good memories of the movement and
may remain a life long ambassador for us. This is not the time to evaluate
anyone's performance.

Ravi
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[Arun Ramarathnam]

Dear Hisham,,

This note from you did come as a surprise.

It is sad to see anyone leave the movement.
Sorry to hear you are leaving.

Thanks for your efforts for the movement thus far.

And best wishes for all your future endeavours.
And do stay in touch.

Regards
Arun


On 30-Jul-2012, at 4:11 PM, Hisham  wrote:

> Dear India Community
> 
> I'm writing to inform you that I plan to leave my current role supporting 
> Wikimedia in India.  I am going to be exploring opportunities and evaluating 
> options that are closer to my career aspirations and my personal 
> circumstances.  I will be working through to ensure that there is a smooth 
> transition - and this is likely to take 2-3 months.  I am writing now because 
> I felt it appropriate and opportune to inform you as early as possible. 
> 
> I want to start off by thanking the Wikimedia community and movement for 
> giving me this extraordinary opportunity.  Working on something like India 
> Program has been something that has been professionally enriching and 
> personally fulfilling. Over the past 1 1/2 years, I have been supported by so 
> many of you - and I want to thank you for everything you have done!  The 
> passion and intellectual firepower of our community has been my constant 
> source of drive and guidance.  There are so many examples of powerful stories 
> from all over the country: the incredible efforts put in by the IEP Campus 
> Ambassadors in Pune; the army of volunteers that drove the outreach push 
> across the country in the first few months of this year; the beautiful 
> stories of fantastic community initiatives from far and wide across the 
> country and sub-continent, and indeed the world; thremarkable stories from so 
> many communities - large, small and tiny ones!
> 
> I want to thank the team that I have had the pleasure and privilege of 
> working with - Nitika, Noopur, Shiju & Subha.  You guys have been wonderful.  
> The work that we are doing is experimental and we have been innovating every 
> day, and I know the circumstances have not always been easy.  Take strength 
> and inspiration from the large number of community members who have been 
> touched by you and appreciate your efforts and value your work.
>  
> I will send an actual "over and out" message later.  In the meantime, I will 
> continue to work on everything that needs working on.
> 
> Happy Editing!
> 
> Warmest Regards,
> 
> hisham
> 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[Gautam John]

Srikanth, a question: Does your email mean to suggest that while the
IP/Hisham has been unresponsive the Chapter has always been
responsive? The logical corollary is that IP/Hisham has been
responsive at times when the Chapter or individuals have not been able
to help and I would think this to be true.

In general, what do we learn from your email? That everyone must be
helpful to everyone else all the time? I think what's important is
that you did get the support you were looking for from someone within
the community and that will hold true irrespective of who helped and
when, right?

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html


On 31 July 2012 23:09, Srikanth Ramakrishnan  wrote:
> Abdul, whoever you are, hats off too you. While I agree that you were
> rude, you're not far off from reality. Yes, I expected help from
> Hisham, something I never got despite multiple requests, for my
> outreach at Tiruchirappalli, or Coimbatore. The chapter gave me the
> support I needed. But maybe That's my luck or karma, I don't know, and
> I don't want to know. Hisham, as much as I like or dislike you, you're
> still a Wikipedian leaving. That is sad. Indeed. Have a pleasant
> future ahead.
>
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>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[Srikanth Ramakrishnan]

Abdul, whoever you are, hats off too you. While I agree that you were
rude, you're not far off from reality. Yes, I expected help from
Hisham, something I never got despite multiple requests, for my
outreach at Tiruchirappalli, or Coimbatore. The chapter gave me the
support I needed. But maybe That's my luck or karma, I don't know, and
I don't want to know. Hisham, as much as I like or dislike you, you're
still a Wikipedian leaving. That is sad. Indeed. Have a pleasant
future ahead.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[Ashwin Baindur]

Calmer, now! :)

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Béria Lima  wrote:

> Calm Ashwin.
>
> Everyone has the right to say what they think about something (after all
> we "still" live in a democracy). I do understand that he was rude and that
> there is more than one way to express frustration and he didn't choose a
> good one, but we shouldn't do the same to him or anyone. And more
> important, we shouldn't be "inviting people to leave" the list or
> community.
>
> I'm not saying you wrong (and I do agree with the most of what you said)
> but let's not push people away.
> _
> *Béria Lima*
>
> *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
> construir esse sonho. *
>
>
>
> On 31 July 2012 09:53, Ashwin Baindur  wrote:
>
>> Abdul,
>>
>> You have not given of your time to Wikipedia and you have no moral right
>> to criticise Hisham for anything he has done. I wonder why you are
>> subscribed to this list at all. You are welcome to be a Wikipedian and if
>> not, be an constructive member of the community even if you dont edit. We
>> have such people. But your diatribe about someone you have not met and know
>> nothing about first-hand is not at all appreciated and not the way to go.
>>
>> Ashwin Baindur
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Ram Shankar Yadav <
>> ramshankarya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Gautam +1
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Gautam John wrote:
>>>
 Abdul, honesty is a rare character and it's good to strike a
 dissenting note. However, all said and done, a dissenting note based
 in fiction is a wasted thing because it lacks a factual basis in which
 to assess it.

 > Before i start, I am not a Wikipedia editor. Just someone who knows
 several
 > of them.

 Ah. The wonders of second hand information. Always notable.

 > None of you seem to be thinking, or else no thinker is replying.

 Perhaps. But your email doesn't seem to indicate that you were either.

 > Hisham is not some war hero that you have to praise him like this.
 > If there is anything he has done, it is not praiseworthy.

 Clearly the members who have replied on this list think otherwise.
 Myself included.

 > yes, we weill miss him. a lot. who else do we blame for failurs and
 all the
 > nonsense in the community?

 So you'll miss him because you have someone to blame? If that's the
 prism through which you view activity, then you biases are clear. For
 we all have clean hands and can cast the first stone.

 > Hisham has done nothing for the community that stands out. all that
 he has
 > done is what volunters do.

 Sure. Which is why volunteers have thanked him.

 > he runined th english wikipedia with his IEP crap.
 > the community is still trying to recover.

 But had the grace and courage to own up to his failures. We could all
 learn something from that.

 > Wer'e not happy that you are leaving, but sad, because we won't have
 anyone
 > to blame.

 Maybe it's time we looked inwards too rather than finding an easy
 outside mark to blame?

 I am sure there are more who hold dissenting views and this is a good
 time to air them. We can all learn from them.

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>>
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>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[Béria Lima]

Calm Ashwin.

Everyone has the right to say what they think about something (after all we
"still" live in a democracy). I do understand that he was rude and that
there is more than one way to express frustration and he didn't choose a
good one, but we shouldn't do the same to him or anyone. And more
important, we shouldn't be "inviting people to leave" the list or
community.

I'm not saying you wrong (and I do agree with the most of what you said)
but let's not push people away.
_
*Béria Lima*

*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
construir esse sonho. *


On 31 July 2012 09:53, Ashwin Baindur  wrote:

> Abdul,
>
> You have not given of your time to Wikipedia and you have no moral right
> to criticise Hisham for anything he has done. I wonder why you are
> subscribed to this list at all. You are welcome to be a Wikipedian and if
> not, be an constructive member of the community even if you dont edit. We
> have such people. But your diatribe about someone you have not met and know
> nothing about first-hand is not at all appreciated and not the way to go.
>
> Ashwin Baindur
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Ram Shankar Yadav <
> ramshankarya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Gautam +1
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Gautam John wrote:
>>
>>> Abdul, honesty is a rare character and it's good to strike a
>>> dissenting note. However, all said and done, a dissenting note based
>>> in fiction is a wasted thing because it lacks a factual basis in which
>>> to assess it.
>>>
>>> > Before i start, I am not a Wikipedia editor. Just someone who knows
>>> several
>>> > of them.
>>>
>>> Ah. The wonders of second hand information. Always notable.
>>>
>>> > None of you seem to be thinking, or else no thinker is replying.
>>>
>>> Perhaps. But your email doesn't seem to indicate that you were either.
>>>
>>> > Hisham is not some war hero that you have to praise him like this.
>>> > If there is anything he has done, it is not praiseworthy.
>>>
>>> Clearly the members who have replied on this list think otherwise.
>>> Myself included.
>>>
>>> > yes, we weill miss him. a lot. who else do we blame for failurs and
>>> all the
>>> > nonsense in the community?
>>>
>>> So you'll miss him because you have someone to blame? If that's the
>>> prism through which you view activity, then you biases are clear. For
>>> we all have clean hands and can cast the first stone.
>>>
>>> > Hisham has done nothing for the community that stands out. all that he
>>> has
>>> > done is what volunters do.
>>>
>>> Sure. Which is why volunteers have thanked him.
>>>
>>> > he runined th english wikipedia with his IEP crap.
>>> > the community is still trying to recover.
>>>
>>> But had the grace and courage to own up to his failures. We could all
>>> learn something from that.
>>>
>>> > Wer'e not happy that you are leaving, but sad, because we won't have
>>> anyone
>>> > to blame.
>>>
>>> Maybe it's time we looked inwards too rather than finding an easy
>>> outside mark to blame?
>>>
>>> I am sure there are more who hold dissenting views and this is a good
>>> time to air them. We can all learn from them.
>>>
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>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[Arjun Mangol Kanoth]

Ashwin and Gautam +1 :D

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 7:19 PM, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) <
viswapra...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ashwin +1
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Deepon Saha wrote:
>
>> Ashwin +1
>>
>> Deepon
>> On Jul 31, 2012 6:24 PM, "Ashwin Baindur" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Abdul,
>>>
>>> You have not given of your time to Wikipedia and you have no moral right
>>> to criticise Hisham for anything he has done. I wonder why you are
>>> subscribed to this list at all. You are welcome to be a Wikipedian and if
>>> not, be an constructive member of the community even if you dont edit. We
>>> have such people. But your diatribe about someone you have not met and know
>>> nothing about first-hand is not at all appreciated and not the way to go.
>>>
>>> Ashwin Baindur
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[വിശ്വപ്രഭ]

Ashwin +1

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Deepon Saha  wrote:

> Ashwin +1
>
> Deepon
> On Jul 31, 2012 6:24 PM, "Ashwin Baindur" 
> wrote:
>
>> Abdul,
>>
>> You have not given of your time to Wikipedia and you have no moral right
>> to criticise Hisham for anything he has done. I wonder why you are
>> subscribed to this list at all. You are welcome to be a Wikipedian and if
>> not, be an constructive member of the community even if you dont edit. We
>> have such people. But your diatribe about someone you have not met and know
>> nothing about first-hand is not at all appreciated and not the way to go.
>>
>> Ashwin Baindur
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[Shobhana Muralidharan]

Hello

Well said. I hate professionals being pulled down in public.

Thanks


On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Gautam John wrote:

> Abdul, honesty is a rare character and it's good to strike a
> dissenting note. However, all said and done, a dissenting note based
> in fiction is a wasted thing because it lacks a factual basis in which
> to assess it.
>
> > Before i start, I am not a Wikipedia editor. Just someone who knows
> several
> > of them.
>
> Ah. The wonders of second hand information. Always notable.
>
> > None of you seem to be thinking, or else no thinker is replying.
>
> Perhaps. But your email doesn't seem to indicate that you were either.
>
> > Hisham is not some war hero that you have to praise him like this.
> > If there is anything he has done, it is not praiseworthy.
>
> Clearly the members who have replied on this list think otherwise.
> Myself included.
>
> > yes, we weill miss him. a lot. who else do we blame for failurs and all
> the
> > nonsense in the community?
>
> So you'll miss him because you have someone to blame? If that's the
> prism through which you view activity, then you biases are clear. For
> we all have clean hands and can cast the first stone.
>
> > Hisham has done nothing for the community that stands out. all that he
> has
> > done is what volunters do.
>
> Sure. Which is why volunteers have thanked him.
>
> > he runined th english wikipedia with his IEP crap.
> > the community is still trying to recover.
>
> But had the grace and courage to own up to his failures. We could all
> learn something from that.
>
> > Wer'e not happy that you are leaving, but sad, because we won't have
> anyone
> > to blame.
>
> Maybe it's time we looked inwards too rather than finding an easy
> outside mark to blame?
>
> I am sure there are more who hold dissenting views and this is a good
> time to air them. We can all learn from them.
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[Deepon Saha]

Ashwin +1

Deepon
On Jul 31, 2012 6:24 PM, "Ashwin Baindur"  wrote:

> Abdul,
>
> You have not given of your time to Wikipedia and you have no moral right
> to criticise Hisham for anything he has done. I wonder why you are
> subscribed to this list at all. You are welcome to be a Wikipedian and if
> not, be an constructive member of the community even if you dont edit. We
> have such people. But your diatribe about someone you have not met and know
> nothing about first-hand is not at all appreciated and not the way to go.
>
> Ashwin Baindur
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Ram Shankar Yadav <
> ramshankarya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Gautam +1
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Gautam John wrote:
>>
>>> Abdul, honesty is a rare character and it's good to strike a
>>> dissenting note. However, all said and done, a dissenting note based
>>> in fiction is a wasted thing because it lacks a factual basis in which
>>> to assess it.
>>>
>>> > Before i start, I am not a Wikipedia editor. Just someone who knows
>>> several
>>> > of them.
>>>
>>> Ah. The wonders of second hand information. Always notable.
>>>
>>> > None of you seem to be thinking, or else no thinker is replying.
>>>
>>> Perhaps. But your email doesn't seem to indicate that you were either.
>>>
>>> > Hisham is not some war hero that you have to praise him like this.
>>> > If there is anything he has done, it is not praiseworthy.
>>>
>>> Clearly the members who have replied on this list think otherwise.
>>> Myself included.
>>>
>>> > yes, we weill miss him. a lot. who else do we blame for failurs and
>>> all the
>>> > nonsense in the community?
>>>
>>> So you'll miss him because you have someone to blame? If that's the
>>> prism through which you view activity, then you biases are clear. For
>>> we all have clean hands and can cast the first stone.
>>>
>>> > Hisham has done nothing for the community that stands out. all that he
>>> has
>>> > done is what volunters do.
>>>
>>> Sure. Which is why volunteers have thanked him.
>>>
>>> > he runined th english wikipedia with his IEP crap.
>>> > the community is still trying to recover.
>>>
>>> But had the grace and courage to own up to his failures. We could all
>>> learn something from that.
>>>
>>> > Wer'e not happy that you are leaving, but sad, because we won't have
>>> anyone
>>> > to blame.
>>>
>>> Maybe it's time we looked inwards too rather than finding an easy
>>> outside mark to blame?
>>>
>>> I am sure there are more who hold dissenting views and this is a good
>>> time to air them. We can all learn from them.
>>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[Pradeep Nair]

Hi,

Right from the time meeting outside the historic cafe in Mumbai along with 
Barry, it has been nice knowing you Hisham. 

Through the difficult days of WikiConference India 2011 (for me)  I thank you 
for the support you have given me. 

For your contributions to the Indian Wikimedia movement, thank you. I hope you 
do keep editing and stay in touch.

Pradeep
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[Ashwin Baindur]

Abdul,

You have not given of your time to Wikipedia and you have no moral right to
criticise Hisham for anything he has done. I wonder why you are subscribed
to this list at all. You are welcome to be a Wikipedian and if not, be an
constructive member of the community even if you dont edit. We have such
people. But your diatribe about someone you have not met and know nothing
about first-hand is not at all appreciated and not the way to go.

Ashwin Baindur




On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Ram Shankar Yadav <
ramshankarya...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Gautam +1
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Gautam John wrote:
>
>> Abdul, honesty is a rare character and it's good to strike a
>> dissenting note. However, all said and done, a dissenting note based
>> in fiction is a wasted thing because it lacks a factual basis in which
>> to assess it.
>>
>> > Before i start, I am not a Wikipedia editor. Just someone who knows
>> several
>> > of them.
>>
>> Ah. The wonders of second hand information. Always notable.
>>
>> > None of you seem to be thinking, or else no thinker is replying.
>>
>> Perhaps. But your email doesn't seem to indicate that you were either.
>>
>> > Hisham is not some war hero that you have to praise him like this.
>> > If there is anything he has done, it is not praiseworthy.
>>
>> Clearly the members who have replied on this list think otherwise.
>> Myself included.
>>
>> > yes, we weill miss him. a lot. who else do we blame for failurs and all
>> the
>> > nonsense in the community?
>>
>> So you'll miss him because you have someone to blame? If that's the
>> prism through which you view activity, then you biases are clear. For
>> we all have clean hands and can cast the first stone.
>>
>> > Hisham has done nothing for the community that stands out. all that he
>> has
>> > done is what volunters do.
>>
>> Sure. Which is why volunteers have thanked him.
>>
>> > he runined th english wikipedia with his IEP crap.
>> > the community is still trying to recover.
>>
>> But had the grace and courage to own up to his failures. We could all
>> learn something from that.
>>
>> > Wer'e not happy that you are leaving, but sad, because we won't have
>> anyone
>> > to blame.
>>
>> Maybe it's time we looked inwards too rather than finding an easy
>> outside mark to blame?
>>
>> I am sure there are more who hold dissenting views and this is a good
>> time to air them. We can all learn from them.
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[Ram Shankar Yadav]

Gautam +1


On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Gautam John wrote:

> Abdul, honesty is a rare character and it's good to strike a
> dissenting note. However, all said and done, a dissenting note based
> in fiction is a wasted thing because it lacks a factual basis in which
> to assess it.
>
> > Before i start, I am not a Wikipedia editor. Just someone who knows
> several
> > of them.
>
> Ah. The wonders of second hand information. Always notable.
>
> > None of you seem to be thinking, or else no thinker is replying.
>
> Perhaps. But your email doesn't seem to indicate that you were either.
>
> > Hisham is not some war hero that you have to praise him like this.
> > If there is anything he has done, it is not praiseworthy.
>
> Clearly the members who have replied on this list think otherwise.
> Myself included.
>
> > yes, we weill miss him. a lot. who else do we blame for failurs and all
> the
> > nonsense in the community?
>
> So you'll miss him because you have someone to blame? If that's the
> prism through which you view activity, then you biases are clear. For
> we all have clean hands and can cast the first stone.
>
> > Hisham has done nothing for the community that stands out. all that he
> has
> > done is what volunters do.
>
> Sure. Which is why volunteers have thanked him.
>
> > he runined th english wikipedia with his IEP crap.
> > the community is still trying to recover.
>
> But had the grace and courage to own up to his failures. We could all
> learn something from that.
>
> > Wer'e not happy that you are leaving, but sad, because we won't have
> anyone
> > to blame.
>
> Maybe it's time we looked inwards too rather than finding an easy
> outside mark to blame?
>
> I am sure there are more who hold dissenting views and this is a good
> time to air them. We can all learn from them.
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[Gautam John]

Abdul, honesty is a rare character and it's good to strike a
dissenting note. However, all said and done, a dissenting note based
in fiction is a wasted thing because it lacks a factual basis in which
to assess it.

> Before i start, I am not a Wikipedia editor. Just someone who knows several
> of them.

Ah. The wonders of second hand information. Always notable.

> None of you seem to be thinking, or else no thinker is replying.

Perhaps. But your email doesn't seem to indicate that you were either.

> Hisham is not some war hero that you have to praise him like this.
> If there is anything he has done, it is not praiseworthy.

Clearly the members who have replied on this list think otherwise.
Myself included.

> yes, we weill miss him. a lot. who else do we blame for failurs and all the
> nonsense in the community?

So you'll miss him because you have someone to blame? If that's the
prism through which you view activity, then you biases are clear. For
we all have clean hands and can cast the first stone.

> Hisham has done nothing for the community that stands out. all that he has
> done is what volunters do.

Sure. Which is why volunteers have thanked him.

> he runined th english wikipedia with his IEP crap.
> the community is still trying to recover.

But had the grace and courage to own up to his failures. We could all
learn something from that.

> Wer'e not happy that you are leaving, but sad, because we won't have anyone
> to blame.

Maybe it's time we looked inwards too rather than finding an easy
outside mark to blame?

I am sure there are more who hold dissenting views and this is a good
time to air them. We can all learn from them.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[Abdul Rahman]

Before i start, I am not a Wikipedia editor. Just someone who knows several
of them.

None of you seem to be thinking, or else no thinker is replying.

Hisham is not some war hero that you have to praise him like this.
If there is anything he has done, it is not praiseworthy.

yes, we weill miss him. a lot. who else do we blame for failurs and all the
nonsense in the community?

Hisham has done nothing for the community that stands out. all that he has
done is what volunters do.

if any volunteer asked for help and he responded, that voulneter would do
exzctly what hisham tells him to.
if he doesnt, hisham cribs that they don't let him do his work.
if he does, he claims credt for that volunteers success and puts the blame
on the volunteer if it fails.

he runined th english wikipedia with his IEP crap.
the community is still trying to recover.
on top of that he called up several voluntrs over the phone for iep this yr
and justified his actions.

congrats hisham, you've done a lot in one and a hafl years. a lot of damage.

Wer'e not happy that you are leaving, but sad, because we won't have anyone
to blame.

Have a good time.




On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Bishakha Datta 
wrote:
Dear Hisham,

I’m thinking back on your time here and want to thank you for so much that
you’ve done and built in these one and a half years. For setting up things
from scratch when there was neither a team nor an office and you were on
your own. For building and motivating a small team to venture into unknown
terrain (and for even daring to step into this terrain) without any
surefire guarantee of success. For tirelessly and successfully supporting
many Indic language wikipedias and the first-ever community-led
WikiConference India. For keeping up team morale in the difficult days
following the India Education program. For reaching out to hundreds of
people in India through any means necessary to create new editors. And,
yes, for being bold.

One of the things that makes this kind of work difficult is not just its
newness or its experimental unsure nature, but also its publicness.
Brickbats pour in much faster than bouquets in public fora, creating a
narrative of their own that is hard to buck. I want to thank you for being
able to smell the roses, for having a tough enough hide to survive the
brickbats while continuing to steer India programs and motivating your team
to do its best. I also want to urge the Wikimedia India community to be
constructive and rigorous in holding India programs accountable in its next
avatar - without being destructive or personal.

You’ve laid a very solid foundation for India programs that I expect the
team will continue to build on. I hope you enjoy your remaining time here
and leave with many more good memories than bad.

Will miss you, my friend!
Bishakha

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Hisham  wrote:
Dear India Community


I'm writing to inform you that I plan to leave my current role supporting
Wikimedia in India.  I am going to be exploring opportunities and
evaluating options that are closer to my career aspirations and my personal
circumstances.  I will be working through to ensure that there is a smooth
transition - and this is likely to take 2-3 months.  I am writing now
because I felt it appropriate and opportune to inform you as early as
possible.

I want to start off by thanking the Wikimedia community and movement for
giving me this extraordinary opportunity.  Working on something like India
Program has been something that has been professionally enriching and
personally fulfilling. Over the past 1 1/2 years, I have been supported by
so many of you - and I want to thank you for everything you have done!  The
passion and intellectual firepower of our community has been my constant
source of drive and guidance.  There are so many examples of powerful
stories from all over the country: the incredible efforts put in by the IEP
Campus Ambassadors in Pune; the army of volunteers that drove the outreach
push across the country in the first few months of this year; the beautiful
stories of fantastic community initiatives from far and wide across the
country and sub-continent, and indeed the world; the remarkable stories
from so many communities - large, small and tiny ones!

I want to thank the team that I have had the pleasure and privilege of
working with - Nitika, Noopur, Shiju & Subha.  You guys have been
wonderful.  The work that we are doing is experimental and we have been
innovating every day, and I know the circumstances have not always been
easy.  Take strength and inspiration from the large number of community
members who have been touched by you and appreciate your efforts and value
your work.

I will send an actual "over and out" message later.  In the meantime, I
will continue to work on everything that needs working on.

Happy Editing!

Warmest Regards,

hisham


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[Bishakha Datta]

Dear Hisham,



I’m thinking back on your time here and want to thank you for so much that
you’ve done and built in these one and a half years. For setting up things
from scratch when there was neither a team nor an office and you were on
your own. For building and motivating a small team to venture into unknown
terrain (and for even daring to step into this terrain) without any
surefire guarantee of success. For tirelessly and successfully supporting
many Indic language wikipedias and the first-ever community-led
WikiConference India. For keeping up team morale in the difficult days
following the India Education program. For reaching out to hundreds of
people in India through any means necessary to create new editors. And,
yes, for being bold.



One of the things that makes this kind of work difficult is not just its
newness or its experimental unsure nature, but also its publicness.
Brickbats pour in much faster than bouquets in public fora, creating a
narrative of their own that is hard to buck. I want to thank you for being
able to smell the roses, for having a tough enough hide to survive the
brickbats while continuing to steer India programs and motivating your team
to do its best. I also want to urge the Wikimedia India community to be
constructive and rigorous in holding India programs accountable in its next
avatar - without being destructive or personal.



You’ve laid a very solid foundation for India programs that I expect the
team will continue to build on. I hope you enjoy your remaining time here
and leave with many more good memories than bad.



Will miss you, my friend!

Bishakha

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Hisham  wrote:

> Dear India Community
>
>
> I'm writing to inform you that I plan to leave my current role supporting
> Wikimedia in India.  I am going to be exploring opportunities and
> evaluating options that are closer to my career aspirations and my personal
> circumstances.  I will be working through to ensure that there is a smooth
> transition - and this is likely to take 2-3 months.  I am writing now
> because I felt it appropriate and opportune to inform you as early as
> possible.
>
> I want to start off by thanking the Wikimedia community and movement for
> giving me this extraordinary opportunity.  Working on something like India
> Program has been something that has been professionally enriching and
> personally fulfilling. Over the past 1 1/2 years, I have been supported by
> so many of you - and I want to thank you for everything you have done!  The
> passion and intellectual firepower of our community has been my constant
> source of drive and guidance.  There are so many examples of powerful
> stories from all over the country: the incredible efforts put in by the IEP
> Campus Ambassadors in Pune; the army of volunteers that drove the outreach
> push across the country in the first few months of this year; the beautiful
> stories of fantastic community initiatives from far and wide across the
> country and sub-continent, and indeed the world; the remarkable stories
> from so many communities - large, small and tiny ones!
>
> I want to thank the team that I have had the pleasure and privilege of
> working with - Nitika, Noopur, Shiju & Subha.  You guys have been
> wonderful.  The work that we are doing is experimental and we have been
> innovating every day, and I know the circumstances have not always been
> easy.  Take strength and inspiration from the large number of community
> members who have been touched by you and appreciate your efforts and value
> your work.
>
> I will send an actual "over and out" message later.  In the meantime, I
> will continue to work on everything that needs working on.
>
> Happy Editing!
>
> Warmest Regards,
>
> *hisham*
> *
> *
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[Deepon Saha]

I really don't know what to say, you never expect this kind of mail in the
inbox while simply doing a routine check at 8am.. Hisham has been very
supportive from each & every  aspect...Be it the education program/outreach
sessions/innovative ideas to promote Wikipedia. Many disagreed with his
viewpoint, but that never hampered the personal relationship they had with
Hisham.

Personally, I am not going to miss Hisham, no, as I will still be in touch
with him & I am sure he will keep on editing in Wikipedia with the same
passion...:)  But yes, we will miss him on a professional level.

I think Viswaprabha expressed everything we all intend to say..
Here's wishing you all the best for your future endeavor!!! :) :)

Take care,

Deepon

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Samuel Klein  wrote:

> Hisham,
>
> You will be dearly missed!
> Viswam, your note was most beautiful.
>
> Sam.
>
> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 2:24 PM, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) <
> viswapra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In the course of an epic, great men march in and march out.
>>
>> But some pages are made just for them. They would sit there within the
>> volumes, get scribbled and read by a few and turn first pale and then
>> golden over the time.
>>
>> Hisham, you have made a mark of your own.
>>
>> Time will recall you when the milestones get counted.
>>
>> And by then, have a great family life with the upcoming bonus bundle of
>> joy!
>>
>> :)
>>
>> From toddler to toddler, do you walk firm!
>> From Wikipedia (en-in... i.e.) to the blooming bud, do you march brave!
>>
>> -Viswam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Theo10011  wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Hisham  wrote:
>>>
 Dear India Community

 I'm writing to inform you that I plan to leave my current role
 supporting Wikimedia in India.  I am going to be exploring opportunities
 and evaluating options that are closer to my career aspirations and my
 personal circumstances.  I will be working through to ensure that there is
 a smooth transition - and this is likely to take 2-3 months.  I am writing
 now because I felt it appropriate and opportune to inform you as early as
 possible.

 I want to start off by thanking the Wikimedia community and movement
 for giving me this extraordinary opportunity.  Working on something like
 India Program has been something that has been professionally enriching and
 personally fulfilling. Over the past 1 1/2 years, I have been supported by
 so many of you - and I want to thank you for everything you have done!  The
 passion and intellectual firepower of our community has been my constant
 source of drive and guidance.  There are so many examples of powerful
 stories from all over the country: the incredible efforts put in by the IEP
 Campus Ambassadors in Pune; the army of volunteers that drove the outreach
 push across the country in the first few months of this year; the beautiful
 stories of fantastic community initiatives from far and wide across the
 country and sub-continent, and indeed the world; the remarkable stories
 from so many communities - large, small and tiny ones!

 I want to thank the team that I have had the pleasure and privilege of
 working with - Nitika, Noopur, Shiju & Subha.  You guys have been
 wonderful.  The work that we are doing is experimental and we have been
 innovating every day, and I know the circumstances have not always been
 easy.  Take strength and inspiration from the large number of community
 members who have been touched by you and appreciate your efforts and value
 your work.

 I will send an actual "over and out" message later.  In the meantime, I
 will continue to work on everything that needs working on.

 Happy Editing!

 Warmest Regards,

 *hisham*
 *
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>>> I am very surprised by this announcement. I wasn't expecting anything
>>> like this.
>>>
>>> What might seem surprising to learn is, I used to talk to Hisham since
>>> the beginning and we never really stopped talking in the last year. We
>>> would meet every month or so, for coffee or lunch. We disagreed about a lot
>>> of things, but absolutely none of it ever affected the personal
>>> relationship we had. I suppose we were capable of separating that. I
>>> certainly didn't make his job any easier, but I was always direct with my
>>> opinions. I hope he forgoes any transgressions.
>>>
>>> He would invite me to meet-ups, occasionally ask for help with
>>> something, and I helped when I could, sometimes even through our most
>>> strongest disagreements. I could disagree with him, criti

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[Samuel Klein]

Hisham,

You will be dearly missed!
Viswam, your note was most beautiful.

Sam.

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 2:24 PM, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) <
viswapra...@gmail.com> wrote:

> In the course of an epic, great men march in and march out.
>
> But some pages are made just for them. They would sit there within the
> volumes, get scribbled and read by a few and turn first pale and then
> golden over the time.
>
> Hisham, you have made a mark of your own.
>
> Time will recall you when the milestones get counted.
>
> And by then, have a great family life with the upcoming bonus bundle of
> joy!
>
> :)
>
> From toddler to toddler, do you walk firm!
> From Wikipedia (en-in... i.e.) to the blooming bud, do you march brave!
>
> -Viswam
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Theo10011  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Hisham  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear India Community
>>>
>>> I'm writing to inform you that I plan to leave my current role
>>> supporting Wikimedia in India.  I am going to be exploring opportunities
>>> and evaluating options that are closer to my career aspirations and my
>>> personal circumstances.  I will be working through to ensure that there is
>>> a smooth transition - and this is likely to take 2-3 months.  I am writing
>>> now because I felt it appropriate and opportune to inform you as early as
>>> possible.
>>>
>>> I want to start off by thanking the Wikimedia community and movement for
>>> giving me this extraordinary opportunity.  Working on something like India
>>> Program has been something that has been professionally enriching and
>>> personally fulfilling. Over the past 1 1/2 years, I have been supported by
>>> so many of you - and I want to thank you for everything you have done!  The
>>> passion and intellectual firepower of our community has been my constant
>>> source of drive and guidance.  There are so many examples of powerful
>>> stories from all over the country: the incredible efforts put in by the IEP
>>> Campus Ambassadors in Pune; the army of volunteers that drove the outreach
>>> push across the country in the first few months of this year; the beautiful
>>> stories of fantastic community initiatives from far and wide across the
>>> country and sub-continent, and indeed the world; the remarkable stories
>>> from so many communities - large, small and tiny ones!
>>>
>>> I want to thank the team that I have had the pleasure and privilege of
>>> working with - Nitika, Noopur, Shiju & Subha.  You guys have been
>>> wonderful.  The work that we are doing is experimental and we have been
>>> innovating every day, and I know the circumstances have not always been
>>> easy.  Take strength and inspiration from the large number of community
>>> members who have been touched by you and appreciate your efforts and value
>>> your work.
>>>
>>> I will send an actual "over and out" message later.  In the meantime, I
>>> will continue to work on everything that needs working on.
>>>
>>> Happy Editing!
>>>
>>> Warmest Regards,
>>>
>>> *hisham*
>>> *
>>> *
>>>
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>> I am very surprised by this announcement. I wasn't expecting anything
>> like this.
>>
>> What might seem surprising to learn is, I used to talk to Hisham since
>> the beginning and we never really stopped talking in the last year. We
>> would meet every month or so, for coffee or lunch. We disagreed about a lot
>> of things, but absolutely none of it ever affected the personal
>> relationship we had. I suppose we were capable of separating that. I
>> certainly didn't make his job any easier, but I was always direct with my
>> opinions. I hope he forgoes any transgressions.
>>
>> He would invite me to meet-ups, occasionally ask for help with something,
>> and I helped when I could, sometimes even through our most strongest
>> disagreements. I could disagree with him, criticize him in the strongest
>> tone, and yet, we can still sit down for lunch and laugh. I could ask him
>> for life advice, talk about our families, and none of it had to be about
>> Wikimedia.
>>
>> This was an unfortunate situation, and I never really had a direct
>> problem with Hisham. It was the larger decisions and the position he was
>> placed in. I would hold others responsible before him, as I have an inkling
>> that even this was someone else's decision.
>>
>> I'm going to miss talking to him.
>>
>> Kind Regards
>> Theo
>>
>>
>> P.S. Remember me and smile, for it's better to forget than to remember me
>> and cry.
>>
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[വിശ്വപ്രഭ]

In the course of an epic, great men march in and march out.

But some pages are made just for them. They would sit there within the
volumes, get scribbled and read by a few and turn first pale and then
golden over the time.

Hisham, you have made a mark of your own.

Time will recall you when the milestones get counted.

And by then, have a great family life with the upcoming bonus bundle of joy!

:)

>From toddler to toddler, do you walk firm!
>From Wikipedia (en-in... i.e.) to the blooming bud, do you march brave!

-Viswam



On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Theo10011  wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Hisham  wrote:
>
>> Dear India Community
>>
>> I'm writing to inform you that I plan to leave my current role supporting
>> Wikimedia in India.  I am going to be exploring opportunities and
>> evaluating options that are closer to my career aspirations and my personal
>> circumstances.  I will be working through to ensure that there is a smooth
>> transition - and this is likely to take 2-3 months.  I am writing now
>> because I felt it appropriate and opportune to inform you as early as
>> possible.
>>
>> I want to start off by thanking the Wikimedia community and movement for
>> giving me this extraordinary opportunity.  Working on something like India
>> Program has been something that has been professionally enriching and
>> personally fulfilling. Over the past 1 1/2 years, I have been supported by
>> so many of you - and I want to thank you for everything you have done!  The
>> passion and intellectual firepower of our community has been my constant
>> source of drive and guidance.  There are so many examples of powerful
>> stories from all over the country: the incredible efforts put in by the IEP
>> Campus Ambassadors in Pune; the army of volunteers that drove the outreach
>> push across the country in the first few months of this year; the beautiful
>> stories of fantastic community initiatives from far and wide across the
>> country and sub-continent, and indeed the world; the remarkable stories
>> from so many communities - large, small and tiny ones!
>>
>> I want to thank the team that I have had the pleasure and privilege of
>> working with - Nitika, Noopur, Shiju & Subha.  You guys have been
>> wonderful.  The work that we are doing is experimental and we have been
>> innovating every day, and I know the circumstances have not always been
>> easy.  Take strength and inspiration from the large number of community
>> members who have been touched by you and appreciate your efforts and value
>> your work.
>>
>> I will send an actual "over and out" message later.  In the meantime, I
>> will continue to work on everything that needs working on.
>>
>> Happy Editing!
>>
>> Warmest Regards,
>>
>> *hisham*
>> *
>> *
>>
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> I am very surprised by this announcement. I wasn't expecting anything like
> this.
>
> What might seem surprising to learn is, I used to talk to Hisham since the
> beginning and we never really stopped talking in the last year. We would
> meet every month or so, for coffee or lunch. We disagreed about a lot of
> things, but absolutely none of it ever affected the personal relationship
> we had. I suppose we were capable of separating that. I certainly didn't
> make his job any easier, but I was always direct with my opinions. I hope
> he forgoes any transgressions.
>
> He would invite me to meet-ups, occasionally ask for help with something,
> and I helped when I could, sometimes even through our most strongest
> disagreements. I could disagree with him, criticize him in the strongest
> tone, and yet, we can still sit down for lunch and laugh. I could ask him
> for life advice, talk about our families, and none of it had to be about
> Wikimedia.
>
> This was an unfortunate situation, and I never really had a direct problem
> with Hisham. It was the larger decisions and the position he was placed in.
> I would hold others responsible before him, as I have an inkling that even
> this was someone else's decision.
>
> I'm going to miss talking to him.
>
> Kind Regards
> Theo
>
>
> P.S. Remember me and smile, for it's better to forget than to remember me
> and cry.
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[Theo10011]

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Hisham  wrote:

> Dear India Community
>
> I'm writing to inform you that I plan to leave my current role supporting
> Wikimedia in India.  I am going to be exploring opportunities and
> evaluating options that are closer to my career aspirations and my personal
> circumstances.  I will be working through to ensure that there is a smooth
> transition - and this is likely to take 2-3 months.  I am writing now
> because I felt it appropriate and opportune to inform you as early as
> possible.
>
> I want to start off by thanking the Wikimedia community and movement for
> giving me this extraordinary opportunity.  Working on something like India
> Program has been something that has been professionally enriching and
> personally fulfilling. Over the past 1 1/2 years, I have been supported by
> so many of you - and I want to thank you for everything you have done!  The
> passion and intellectual firepower of our community has been my constant
> source of drive and guidance.  There are so many examples of powerful
> stories from all over the country: the incredible efforts put in by the IEP
> Campus Ambassadors in Pune; the army of volunteers that drove the outreach
> push across the country in the first few months of this year; the beautiful
> stories of fantastic community initiatives from far and wide across the
> country and sub-continent, and indeed the world; the remarkable stories
> from so many communities - large, small and tiny ones!
>
> I want to thank the team that I have had the pleasure and privilege of
> working with - Nitika, Noopur, Shiju & Subha.  You guys have been
> wonderful.  The work that we are doing is experimental and we have been
> innovating every day, and I know the circumstances have not always been
> easy.  Take strength and inspiration from the large number of community
> members who have been touched by you and appreciate your efforts and value
> your work.
>
> I will send an actual "over and out" message later.  In the meantime, I
> will continue to work on everything that needs working on.
>
> Happy Editing!
>
> Warmest Regards,
>
> *hisham*
> *
> *
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I am very surprised by this announcement. I wasn't expecting anything like
this.

What might seem surprising to learn is, I used to talk to Hisham since the
beginning and we never really stopped talking in the last year. We would
meet every month or so, for coffee or lunch. We disagreed about a lot of
things, but absolutely none of it ever affected the personal relationship
we had. I suppose we were capable of separating that. I certainly didn't
make his job any easier, but I was always direct with my opinions. I hope
he forgoes any transgressions.

He would invite me to meet-ups, occasionally ask for help with something,
and I helped when I could, sometimes even through our most strongest
disagreements. I could disagree with him, criticize him in the strongest
tone, and yet, we can still sit down for lunch and laugh. I could ask him
for life advice, talk about our families, and none of it had to be about
Wikimedia.

This was an unfortunate situation, and I never really had a direct problem
with Hisham. It was the larger decisions and the position he was placed in.
I would hold others responsible before him, as I have an inkling that even
this was someone else's decision.

I'm going to miss talking to him.

Kind Regards
Theo


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and cry.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[Achal Prabhala]

You will be missed, Hisham, and it's really good to know that you are 
around for the next few months.


Take care,
Achal

On Monday 30 July 2012 04:07 PM, Hisham wrote:

Dear Bangalore Community

I'm writing to inform you that I plan to leave my current role 
supporting Wikimedia in India.  I am going to be exploring 
opportunities and evaluating options that are closer to my career 
aspirations and my personal circumstances.  I will be working through 
to ensure that there is a smooth transition - and this is likely to 
take 2-3 months.  I am writing now because I felt it appropriate and 
opportune to inform you as early as possible.


I want to start off by thanking the Wikimedia community and movement 
for giving me this extraordinary opportunity.  Working on something 
like India Program has been something that has been professionally 
enriching and personally fulfilling. Over the past 1 1/2 years, I have 
been supported by so many of you - and I want to thank you for 
everything you have done!  The passion and intellectual firepower of 
our community has been my constant source of drive and guidance. 
 There are so many examples of powerful stories from all over the 
country: the incredible efforts put in by the IEP Campus Ambassadors 
in Pune; the army of volunteers that drove the outreach push across 
the country in the first few months of this year; the beautiful 
stories of fantastic community initiatives from far and wide across 
the country and sub-continent, and indeed the world; the remarkable 
stories from so many communities - large, small and tiny ones!


I want to thank the team that I have had the pleasure and privilege of 
working with - Nitika, Noopur, Shiju & Subha.  You guys have been 
wonderful.  The work that we are doing is experimental and we have 
been innovating every day, and I know the circumstances have not 
always been easy.  Take strength and inspiration from the large number 
of community members who have been touched by you and appreciate your 
efforts and value your work.


I will send an actual "over and out" message later.  In the meantime, 
I will continue to work on everything that needs working on.


Happy Editing!

Warmest Regards,

*/hisham/*
*/
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[Jyoti Prakash Nath]

It was great to work with you. Thanx a lot for your support to the Assamese 
Wikipedia Community. 


Wish you a bright future ahead.

Goodbye Hisham 

 

Regards
Jyoti Prakash Nath




>
> From: Hisham 
>To: Wikimedia India Community list  
>Sent: Monday, 30 July 2012 4:11 PM
>Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell
> 
>
>Dear India Community
>
>I'm writing to inform you that I plan to leave my current role supporting 
>Wikimedia in India.  I am going to be exploring opportunities and evaluating 
>options that are closer to my career aspirations and my personal 
>circumstances.  I will be working through to ensure that there is a smooth 
>transition - and this is likely to take 2-3 months.  I am writing now because 
>I felt it appropriate and opportune to inform you as early as possible. 
>
>I want to start off by thanking the Wikimedia community and movement for 
>giving me this extraordinary opportunity.  Working on something like India 
>Program has been something that has been professionally enriching and 
>personally fulfilling. Over the past 1 1/2 years, I have been supported by so 
>many of you - and I want to thank you for everything you have done!  The 
>passion and intellectual firepower of our community has been my constant 
>source of drive and guidance.  There are so many examples of powerful stories 
>from all over the country: the incredible efforts put in by the IEP Campus 
>Ambassadors in Pune; the army of volunteers that drove the outreach push 
>across the country in the first few months of this year; the beautiful stories 
>of fantastic community initiatives from far and wide across the country and 
>sub-continent, and indeed the world; the remarkable stories from so many 
>communities - large, small and tiny ones!
>
>I want to thank the team that I have had the pleasure and privilege of working 
>with - Nitika, Noopur, Shiju & Subha.  You guys have been wonderful.  The work 
>that we are doing is experimental and we have been innovating every day, and I 
>know the circumstances have not always been easy.  Take strength and 
>inspiration from the large number of community members who have been touched 
>by you and appreciate your efforts and value your work.
> 
>I will send an actual "over and out" message later.  In the meantime, I will 
>continue to work on everything that needs working on.
>
>Happy Editing!
>
>Warmest Regards,
>
>
>hisham
>
>
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

[Hisham]

Dear India Community

I'm writing to inform you that I plan to leave my current role supporting 
Wikimedia in India.  I am going to be exploring opportunities and evaluating 
options that are closer to my career aspirations and my personal circumstances. 
 I will be working through to ensure that there is a smooth transition - and 
this is likely to take 2-3 months.  I am writing now because I felt it 
appropriate and opportune to inform you as early as possible. 

I want to start off by thanking the Wikimedia community and movement for giving 
me this extraordinary opportunity.  Working on something like India Program has 
been something that has been professionally enriching and personally 
fulfilling. Over the past 1 1/2 years, I have been supported by so many of you 
- and I want to thank you for everything you have done!  The passion and 
intellectual firepower of our community has been my constant source of drive 
and guidance.  There are so many examples of powerful stories from all over the 
country: the incredible efforts put in by the IEP Campus Ambassadors in Pune; 
the army of volunteers that drove the outreach push across the country in the 
first few months of this year; the beautiful stories of fantastic community 
initiatives from far and wide across the country and sub-continent, and indeed 
the world; the remarkable stories from so many communities - large, small and 
tiny ones!

I want to thank the team that I have had the pleasure and privilege of working 
with - Nitika, Noopur, Shiju & Subha.  You guys have been wonderful.  The work 
that we are doing is experimental and we have been innovating every day, and I 
know the circumstances have not always been easy.  Take strength and 
inspiration from the large number of community members who have been touched by 
you and appreciate your efforts and value your work.
 
I will send an actual "over and out" message later.  In the meantime, I will 
continue to work on everything that needs working on.

Happy Editing!

Warmest Regards,

hisham

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