Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Open Knowledge Conference (OKCon) 2010: Call for Proposals
On Jan 21, 7:39 pm, Isabell Long isabell...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 06:24:29PM +, Jonathan Gray wrote: ~~ Open Knowledge Conference (OKCon) 2010: Call for Proposals ~~ * where: London, UK * when: Saturday 24th April, 2010 * www:http://www.okfn.org/okcon/ * last year:http://www.okfn.org/okcon/2009/ * cfp:http://www.okfn.org/okcon/cfp/(deadline: Jan 31st 2010) * hashtag: #okcon2010 Is the actual event open to everyone? I'm just wondering whether I can go to the event, it looks pretty interesting from the website's information on previous years! :) Wikimedia UK has funds available to sponsor any members who want to go along to this or any other open content event - please get in touch if you would like to apply. Regards, Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK Open decisions
One of the things that a few people have mentioned as a real positive about the chapter is the way that decisions are made openly in consultation with members and supporters. The home page makes quite a bg deal about this: Open decisions As an organisation promoting open knowledge, we also want to be leaders in transparency regarding our decision making: * Our constitution puts decision making in the hands of members wherever possible * We seek the widest possible membership base * We are led by a seven person Board of Trustees, elected by the members at the AGM * All Board meetings are held in public on the internet. We publish our Agenda beforehand and minutes afterwards * We pledge to discuss all major decisions with our supporters beforehand though our mailing list and our wiki * We keep supporters informed through our monthly Newsletter which you can subscribe to here. Unfortunately with the pressure of too much to do plus some changes brought in for efficiency reasons, some aspects of these have changed in the last couple of months: - Board meetings have moved from IRC to Skype, which we haven't been able to open to the public or even publish the recordings afterwards - We haven't been able to publish a newsletter since September - There is little input to Board agendas or reaction to minutes - Non-board activity on this email list, the wiki and in chapter projects hasn't really developed in the way we originally hoped I would like to ask how people see this who support the chapter but aren't on the board. Are you hearing enough about what the board is doing? Are you wanting to hear more? Are you happy with the amount of input you have to chapter activities or do you want to get more involved? Generally are you happy with the way the chapter is going? Do any of these developments above matter to you, and if so, which ones in particular? If you do want to get more involved, what's the best way to engage? Should the board use more, or less of: - this email list? - the wiki? - direct emails to members? - the monthly newsletter? - the blog at http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/? - the facebook group at http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5678482133ref=ts? - the twitter feed at http://twitter.com/wikimediauk - anything else? All feedback and thoughts are welcome! Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Skeleton branches
On Dec 7, 12:31 pm, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think we need them until we are ready to use them fully. Do we have volunteers to be the regional chairs you mention? If they end up just being figureheads that things are done in the name of, I would be opposed. Why? we have a resource - these names - that could be of use to us and this is a way of unlocking them. What's the advantage in throwing away this resource before we're ready to set up fully functioning branches? Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] Skeleton branches
When we were recognised as a chapter by the Foundation we got permission to use names like Wikimedia Wales, Wikimedia Scotland (plus other language derivations) with the thought that some day they might be useful to have. We haven't yet had the need or opportunity to use them, but there are a couple of things coming up in the pipeline where it may be useful to brand ourselves Wikimedia Cymru and Wikimedia Scotland respectively rather than Wikimedia UK. I was thinking through how we could do this, and i was wondering if it might be a bit too much to just use the name without any kind of justification for the Welshness / Scottishness of the organisation. This is the idea I've come up with, which can be implemented with minimal effort and still justify, if we need to, to the outside world, our use of the terns. Please let me know what you think: 1) All members would automatically be allocated to a branch when they join based on where they lived 2) Any member could choose to switch to a different branch if they wanted to 3) The first branches would be England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland (could discuss setting up more if the need arose in the future) 4) The board of Wikimedia UK could appoint a branch chair (and more officers if need be) from one of the members of that branch. That way we could brand things: xx xx Chair, Wikimedia Cymru followed by a contact address in Wales rather than: xx xx Secretary, Wikimedia UK with a contact address in England This would be particularly helpful when dealing with, for instance, Welsh language projects or devolved governments. Some time in the future - size and activity permitting - these may be able to evolve into fully fledged autonomous branches - or even independent chapters. For the constitutionalists among readers, I'd propose we establish the branches through an Article 28 resolution of the Board, ratified by the next AGM. Please let me know what you think. Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Skeleton branches
Thanks everyone for the comments. To respond to three points raised: On Dec 6, 5:11 pm, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/12/6 AndrewRT andrewrtur...@googlemail.com: That's pretty much what I've been thinking, although I'm not sure we need it yet. I think we ought to let the members of each branch elect their chair, though (ratified by the board). I think that's stage 2 - autonomous branches. Where you only have two or three members having a full blown election seems unnecessary, but a skeleton branch would be useful because it gives us a way of using the name before moving to a full autonomous branch. For the constitutionalists among readers, I'd propose we establish the branches through an Article 28 resolution of the Board, ratified by the next AGM. I disagree. I think Article 3.1 is better suited to it. Article 3.1 would need permission of the AGM first and I'm not sure it would quite fit. I'm talking about two particular projects that could be started before the AGM. As for London, although it may be a great branch in terms of running activities - although we already have the London Wikimeet for that - I'm not sure we could do anything as Wikimedia London that we couldn't do as Wikimedia UK. Besides, we didn't actually ask for permission to use Wikimedia London! Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Next board meeting: this evening, with a different format
How does everyone think it went on Tuesday? Personally I found the Skype part to be much more productive than IRC - it was a lot easier to discuss potentially contentious and complex issues over Skype than over IRC. The main negatives were the fact that it wasn't open to our supporters to listen to and we couldn't record it for the record afterwards. I notice now there's actually a Skype extra called Pamela for Skype which can be used to record. It's available as a free 30 day trial or €18 to buy - something like that might be worth doing, particularly if we could get one for free! When we came to the IRC there was significantly less participation from non-board members (not including our Head of Fundraising) and it would be good to see how we could enable that more. On Oct 21, 11:56 am, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/10/21 Angela bees...@gmail.com: 2009/10/20 Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net: Due to technical limitations, it won't be possible to have this part of the meeting open to the public. Have you considered using a free conference call number instead? That way people can phone in any way they like, with Skype, or with a normal phone, or whatever. It removes the restrictions on the number of people that can call in and avoids people being forced to use Skype if they choose not to. I don't know about the ones in the UK, but I've used a couple of US ones which worked ok. It cost the same as a normal call would (Skype to the US is 1.4p per minute). I believe they have options to moderate the call and mute certain people, but I've not tried that. Some also offer recordings. http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=enq=free+conference+callmeta=cr%3Dcount...countryGB That costs money. I would rather stick with a free option like Skype, which I think we can make do what we want. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.orghttp://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK:http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] AGM pictures
Has anyone got any pictures of the AGM? If so, could you upload them to the wiki at uk.wikimedia.org. It would be good to have some pics so we can start to illustrate the site. Cheers! Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] Board report for AGM
We're planning to do a brief Board report (perhaps 1 or 2 pages) to the AGM summarising the acheivements of the initial Board. Has anyone got ideas for what they would like it to contain? If so, please comment here: http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Meetings/2009_AGM/Board%27s_Report Thanks Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] Media contacts
One of the key things that the chapter does/will do is to do with media contacts. I've started a section and a page on the wiki - http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page#Media_relations - to record what we do - please could you edit away! cheers ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] Userpage template
I've created a new template which members can add to their userpages to advertise WMUK and encourage other people to get involved. Please edit away if you can improve! Just add {{WMUK}} to the top of your English Wikipedia or Wikinews page (feel free to copy across to other projects as required) Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] Membership drive template
I've put together a proposed tempate for sending round everyone who's previously expressed an interest in the chapter but hasn't joined up yet. It's at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AndrewRT/WMUK#Join_up_template Please let me know if yu have any suggestions for improvements. Cheers Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] Reminder - deadline for Board nominations is Sunday!
Just a reminder that there are only 25 hours to go before close of nominations for the new Board! If you are interested in running, all that is needed is a quick email to tell...@wikimedia.org.uk with the information requested at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings/2009_AGM/Notice#Nomination regards, Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] Becoming a Board member
We had a chat at the Board meeting last night and there was a bit of nervousness at the fewness of people who have expressed an interest in standing for the Board. The applications are going straight to the tellers so the current Board members won't actually know who's applied until they're anounced in about a week's time (so that they dont get an unfair advantage over other candidates) but from discussions it looked like only two of the five interim Board members have applied and the other three are looking to retire; two non-Board members are also interested in applying and we don't know of anyone else who has come forward. One aspect which might be putting people off is the frequency and length of the Board meetings we've been having to date. The initial Board has met 23 times so far (nearly once per week on average) often for 3 hours or more. Whilst this is probably necessary when we're getting things sorted out, I'd like to suggest that the next board has shorter and less frequent meetings. I think meeting once per month for no more than 2 hours would be ideal, so that it's not too much of a burdon on Board members and we avoid burning our volunteers out. At the same time we can change the Board into more of an oversight role, and do more organising work outside. It's surprising what you can acheive when working to a strict deadline, and our productivity does tend to dive after a couple of hours. Hopefully this will also encourage people who are thinking of putting their names forward but are put off by the commitment of meetings. What do others think? ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] Anonymous editing on uk.wikimedia.org
I've started a poll at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Water_cooler#Anonymous_editing_poll on whether we should continue allowing anonymous editing on uk.wikimedia.org. Please let me know your views. regards, ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art?
Thanks for the nudge! I've been in touch with the organisers at the Brooklyn; they are currently working through each of the 11,528 images to check they are all copyright-compliant and otherwise ok. They haven't been able to tell me when they'll be finished, but I'll keep hassling them! Hope to be able to announce our winners by the middle of April. regards, On Mar 20, 9:11 am, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: What happened to Wikipedia Loves Art? http://www.flickr.com/groups/wikipedia_loves_art/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Loves_Art Did I win? :D Gordo -- Think Feynman/http://pobox.com/~gordo/ gordon.j...@pobox.com/// ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.orghttp://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK:http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM
Jimbo unfortunately has turned his facebook reply from accept to decline which I guess means he pressed the wrong button! Pity! Personally I'm most looking forward to the talks and the discussion on the chapter's priorities. The hustings should also be interesting as it will continue the debate on priorities. The election will almost certainly be contested, in that we've got at least six prospective candidates already and candidates after number 3 need to get more than 50% approval to be elected. Hence even if we get only seven candidates, still every vote will count. Andrew On Mar 20, 10:15 am, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/20 Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com: So what are the interesting parts of the AGM? The BBC / Jimbo / both? The hustings might be fairly interesting, I guess it depends on how many people stand (if the election is uncontested, they will be pretty boring, however eloquent the candidates may be!). I'm looking forward to the BBC talk/discussion if it happens (which I very much hope it does). If Jimbo gives a talk as well, that would probably be quite good, although I think I already know Jimbo's views on most relevant subjects, whereas I don't know the views of the BBC, so the BBC will probably be more interesting. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.orghttp://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK:http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Gift Aid update
On Mar 18, 11:39 pm, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: ... CC [Charity Commission] will almost certainly want written confirmation (unconditionally, that is - what we have at the moment is all conditional on us winning the bid) The CC application form (http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/Library/ publications/pdfs/cc5atext.pdf) asks, for charities which do not yet have statutory accounts, for the estimated gross income in the first year of operation. The accompanying guidance notes (http:// www.charitycommission.gov.uk/Library/publications/pdfs/cc5btext.pdf) go on to say state that If you do not provide evidence that the gross annual income will exceed £5,000, such as ... a pledge of funding ... we will return your application as incomplete Hopefully we'll have these by the time the bid is decided. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Gift Aid update
On Mar 18, 12:54 pm, joseph seddon life_is_bitter_sw...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: I think that making preparations for both drafting a complaint to HMRC and preparing an application to CC should start now. Even if the preparations are only minor. Delaying either by any real length of time could affect Wikimania significantly. I agree entirely. Complaint letter has already been drafted and will hopefully go out tomorrow. I think the CC application should be ready to be put in the post the day after we win Wikimania? Even better, anyone know a benefactor willing to give us £4,700? Or a few to give us £1,000 each? They can even earmark it to whatever they want, just so we get the income to qualify! Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] Volunteer teller
One of our tellers has unfortunately had to pull out, so the Board is looking for a replacement. Is anyone able to volunteer? We have one teller, so if no-one comes forward we'll just appoint a second person to count the votes at the AGM. However, it would be ideal if we could get a second teller beforehand, so that they can receive the electronic votes as they come in. Please let me know if you can help us this way. Regards, Andrew Turvey Secretary Wikimedia UK ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Board meeting tonight + Wikimania bid meeting beforehand
In case you don't have the addresses to hand: board meeting: #wikimedia-uk-board discussion: #wikimedia-uk wikimania: #wikimania-oxford On Mar 10, 6:40 pm, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: Reminder: There is a board meeting on IRC tonight at 8:30pm. My main reason for this email, though, is to unilaterally announce a meeting to discuss the Wikimania bid before the board meeting (we tried doing so after the board meeting before but we were all asleep by then), so that meeting will be at 8pm. Hopefully enough people will get this email and turn up, if they don't then we'll have to schedule a meeting with a little more advance notice! ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.orghttp://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK:http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM in Manchester
On Mar 9, 8:15 am, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: At 13:19 + 7/3/09, Andrew Turvey wrote: Hi all, Unfortunately we've drawn a blank with finding a suitable free venue in Birmingham, so we've decided to move to plan B, which is Manchester. Does anyone have any contacts - for instance at the University - which would enable them to book a room for free on Saturday 25th or Sunday 26th April? If so please could you reply to the list or to me directly asap. regards, Andrew Does http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings/2009_AGM/Notice need an update? Gordo Yes - are you volunteering :) It's only a draft at present - will be finalised when we book the venue. regards, Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM in Manchester
The Board was very clear to me - only free or nearly free (i.e. £10) would do! If we're not able to get a free room, I guess we can start looking at non-free ones. On Mar 8, 12:38 am, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/7 Andrew Turvey ratur...@yahoo.co.uk: Hi all, Unfortunately we've drawn a blank with finding a suitable free venue in Birmingham, so we've decided to move to plan B, which is Manchester. Have you looked at non-free venues? A function room in a pub probably wouldn't cost all that much, we don't need much more than that. B'ham is better located than Manchester. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.orghttp://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK:http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM in Manchester
Personally, I think a meeting in a pub or even a pub room gives a very different impression to a meeting in a university room, and we need to bear that in mind. Imagine giving a presentation or holding hustings. Although we're only small now, I hope this is the start of something big. I say let's start as we mean to go on! On Mar 8, 12:42 am, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/8 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: Have you looked at non-free venues? A function room in a pub probably wouldn't cost all that much, we don't need much more than that. B'ham is better located than Manchester. Function rooms in pubs are frequently free if you ask nicely. Certainly WMUK v1 never paid for use of the function room of whatever that pub was in Borough. - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.orghttp://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK:http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM Resolutions
On Mar 3, 10:26 pm, James Forrester ja...@jdforrester.org wrote: 2009/3/3 AndrewRT ratur...@yahoo.co.uk: The Board has an action to register with the Charity Commission as soon as it's likely that our income will be more than £5,000 - which will be as soon were announced as the winning bid for Wikimania 2010 (- grin-), or, failing that, when our donations get to that level in I guess 1-2 years' time? Hmm. Frankly, I expect us to clear the £5000 threshold in a matter of months - there have been lots of expressions of interest over the years. We on the old Board considered full Charity status to be an absolute priority, and our failure to achieve it was what led the Board to close WMUK v.1 down in favour of re-starting. Yours, -- James D. Forrester Unfortunately, the Charities Commission are currently not considering applications for charitable status from organisations with a turnover of less than £5,000 per year unless there are exceptional circumstances: http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/publications/cc21.asp#32 65. We will only consider an application for registration from an organisation below the minimum income in exceptional circumstances. I'm afraid I think we have no choice but to wait until we're at that level - which as you say, hopefully won't be too long. regards, Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Citing wikipedia
On Feb 24, 1:46 am, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/24 AndrewRT ratur...@yahoo.co.uk: Just reading the news online and came across this article: http://euobserver.com/851/27587 Look closely and you can see the picture cites wikipedia I know pictures often cite AFP like that - but is this enough under the GDFL? If not, what is the procedure for reporting copyright abuses? Andrew Normally we poke the author of the image and ask them. -- geni We being who exactly? Is there a group of people (volunteers or officials) who take it upon themselves to do this? Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] Citing wikipedia
Just reading the news online and came across this article: http://euobserver.com/851/27587 Look closely and you can see the picture cites wikipedia I know pictures often cite AFP like that - but is this enough under the GDFL? If not, what is the procedure for reporting copyright abuses? Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Chapters Meeting
On Feb 10, 8:47 pm, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: It's probably worth pointing out that at the moment less than 7 people have expressed an interest in standing for the 7 seats on the board, I don't think we should assume that this will remain the case. Out of the five current Board members one has indicated he's going to step down, one (me) has said he will continue and the other three have said they'll probably stand again. Two people from outside the board at the IRC meeting last week said they planned to stand making six already, and nominations haven't even officially opened yet! Add in the two other people - Kate and Skemny - who stood last time and might do so again, also the five Board members of WMUKv1 some of whom might now want to stand again plus of course anyone else we manage to engage between now and then, and I think we'll probably end up with more than 7. Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: BBC Radio Wales interview
Just had a listen - you did well, thanks for picking this up! I guess the main message was flagged revisions are not a fundamental change, just an extension of existing protection processes which you put across well, along with the impetus for action from the senators. Pity you couldn't get the Wikimedia UK spokesman role across and were introduced as just a wikipedia editor. On Feb 1, 11:25 pm, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: Not sure if this got through... apologies if it arrives twice. Mike Begin forwarded message: From: Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net Date: 1 February 2009 18:31:14 GMT To: wikimediau...@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Communications Committee wmfc...@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: BBC Radio Wales interview ... was broadcast today, and is now on the BBC iPlayer, see: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00h9045/b00h903q/ mousemat_01_02_2009/ There's a bit at the beginning about Brittanica, followed by me on Wikipedia. Comments / criticisms welcome. Mike ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.orghttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UKhttp://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art
On Jan 10, 10:56 am, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: How does that sound? Complicated... Can you suggest any ways of making it simpler? ...and the competitor cannot control stage 2. So it is no longer a scavenger hunt at that stage, Yes, I spoke to Pharos about this previously - he though it would be best to keep the competition restricted to stage 1. Stage 2 is still important of course otherwise wikipedia doesn't get to benefit from the photos and everyone is welcome to join in! there may be wrangling... if the other parties don't like the images (not the judges). Yes - that's the main reason why Pharos thought it best not to have the competetion at this stage. And I thought that this was a team competition. http://www.flickr.com/groups/wikipedia_loves_art/ Shoot on your own or create a small team (10 people, tops) and sign-up online (posted soon). Yes I forgot that bit, you can also do it in a team if you prefer. Is the V A competition a solo effort? No. It's a bit complicated and personally I feel like I'm being pulled in all directions! The project is being organised by the Brooklyn Museum in New York, who have asked other museums to get involved. Pharos is coordinating the wikipedia side in New York and globally; the VA are organising (although I'm not sure exactly what at this stage) the London launch event on 1st Feb and my job is to advertise the London event among the WP community and get as many people along as possible! Points will be added up and prizes given to the different teams who participate at the different museums. Hope that's a little clearer! Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Gift Aid - a further update
On Jan 5, 10:01 pm, Andrew Cates and...@soschildren.org wrote: ... Can you accept CAF cheques yet? I'm afraid not. Looking at the CAF guidelines here: http://www.cafonline.org/PDF/0650Z_pdfCollection_0708.pdf the charity must be registered with HMRC before they will pay out on any CAF cheques and it is likely to be mid to late February before that occurs. Please note also that membership subscriptions are not eligible for Gift Aid (as distinct from donations) and so we cannot accept CAF cheques for these. Regards, Andrew T ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Manchester meetup
On Jan 3, 7:31 pm, michael west michaw...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia is the encyclopedia *anyone *can edit. I have not been barred from editing and do edit under a wikiname that wouldn't link me to my past. I think one of the strengths of wikipedia is that contributions are taken at face value for what they are, rather than based on who submits them. The sourcing should speak for itself! ... Wikipedia doesn't mandate its editors to be truthful From what I understand no editor is expected to reveal more about themselves - or their editing past - than they feel comfortable with. Don't ask and don't tell is my view. However, I'm sure I would agree that lying is ok on wikipedia - please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Honesty for an essay on the subject. Regards, Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Gift Aid - a further update
On Jan 2, 4:22 pm, Andrew Cates and...@soschildren.org wrote: Any progress on accepting direct debits? We will be able to accept standig orders as soon as the bank account is finalised which should be soon after Foundation approval next Sunday. I think the Board decided against direct debits as they were too expensive, but I can't find the decision at the moment - cfp could you confirm? We're also looking into paypal which could be promising. Hope this helps, Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
[Wikimediauk-l] Attendence at AGM
Hi all, Happy New Year to everyone! We're starting to look at the practicalities of the AGM and I though it'd be useful to get an idea of how many people might attend in person so we can book a suitable room. Bearing in mind: - all members will be able to vote - both for resolutions and for the new board members - electronically without needing to attend - we hope to have some kind of ability to allow people to contribute to discussion remotely - but the details haven't been worked out yet - the location is likely to be soemwhere central in either Birmingham or Manchester (the decision on the city will be made 13th Jan) - the date hasn't been fixed but is likely to be a weekend day at the end of Feb or early March. The main advantages of the day are: - you get to see and hear the candidates for the Board and other people involved in the chapter - you can discuss and debate the priorities of the chapter with other people - you can hear talks from one of the exciting speakers we have booked to come (details to follow) Can you let me know if you personally would be interested in attending in person and how many people you might expect to show up? Thanks ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Next meeting - Tuesday 13th Jan 2009, 8:30pm GMT
Just to let you know the Board meeting today decided to call the next meeting in a fortnight's time, Tuesday 13th January 2009 at 8:30pm GMT/UTC. The Agenda is now available here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK_v2.0/Board_meetings/2009-01-13/Agenda Please comment there if you would like to input into any item on the agenda or would like to suggest something additional to discuss. Cheers Andrew Turvey Secretary Wiki UK Limited Wiki UK Limited is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL, United Kingdom ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Meeting tonight.
On Dec 30, 6:45 pm, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: I will be in the room, silent... like an elephant! Hope you enjoyed it! ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
[Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art
Hi all, I'm starting to get some more details together about the events at the Victoria Albert Museum that we're running as part of the Wikipedia Loves Art project. The VA are organising their launch event on Sunday 1st February - time to be confirmed. If you can come down that day or otherwise contribute either in person or on wiki during February please sign you name up here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:w...@v%26a#participants Please spread the word to anyone else you know who may be interested - the following groups have already been notified: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:w...@v%26a#publicity and please add in any other groups you contact. Lastly, we're planning a short discussion on irc:wikimedia-uk to organise the event and sort out how the VA element is going to fit in with the international project. If you can think of anything else please post on the project talkpage! Regards, Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM
On Dec 22, 12:53 am, AndrewRT ratur...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Informed by the discussion we've had here, I'm going to propose that the next Board meeting on tuesday I should of course have said _next_ tuesday, i.e. 30th! Just confusing myself again! ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Minutes of the Wiki UK Ltd board meeting, 16/12/08
On Dec 18, 8:39 am, Kwan Ting Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK_v2.0/Board_meetings/2008- There's nothing on there at the moment other than the standard items and matter arising from the last meeting. Thanks for that. With regard the Election Rules, I suggest these are formally adopted either at this meeting or at the following one. The current version (http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php? title=Wikimedia_UK_v2.0/Election_Rulesoldid=1317410) seem to have broad support. In essense they say: * 7 Board members * elected under the Approval Voting method * only those who get 50% are elected * elections run by one or more Teller(s) who are appointed by the Board and can't be candidates themselves * voting can be either electronically to the Teller or in person by a paper ballot at the AGM * timescales set out for inviting candidates, nominations and election The only remaining uncertain area is on the question - what do we do when the electorate is opposed to most or all of the candidates. In discussions on meta I've proposed three options: (a) Elect the top 7 anyway (you could say like UK elections!) (b) Only elect those that get more than 50%, except for the top candidate who would be elected regardless and if he was the only candidate elected their sole task post-election would be to organise a new election (c) Only elect those that get more than 50%, except for the top 3/5 candidates who would be elected regardless; post-election they would have all the powers of any other Board. Other than this is it ready to go to the Board for approval? ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM
Informed by the discussion we've had here, I'm going to propose that the next Board meeting on tuesday decide the location of the AGM so that we can start organising it. There seems to be a broad consensus that the location should be easily accessible by transport and should rotate around several places. Therefore I suggest: - Oxford is chosen at the location for the Spring 2010 AGM in the run up to Wikimania - Given that London was the location for the Wikimedia v1 formation meeting, we go elsewhere for now - AGM 2009 is held in Birmingham, or, if we can't find a suitable venue, Manchester How does that sound? ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Minutes of the Wiki UK Ltd board meeting, 16/12/08
On Dec 17, 10:19 pm, Mickey Conn mickey.c...@gmail.com wrote: Hi - The next board meeting will be in two weeks time, on Tuesday 30th December. Thanks for these minutes Mickey. KTC - would it be possible to see an early Agenda for the next meeting, so we can consider what items the Board may need to action? Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM
On Dec 1, 12:37 pm, Michael Shilliday mjshilli...@googlemail.com wrote: I have never commented here before, but why the need for a physical AGM? Incorporated companies have been having online AGMs for years now. It may be necessary for a small group of people to be sitting in a room together, but the voting members don't necessarily need to be. There may be a hugely compelling reason why this is necessary, but that's just my thoughts, MJS First, welcome, and thanks for your contribution! Hope it will be the first of many :) All members will get an opportunity to vote electronically on all the resolutions and voting for the new Board members, even if they can't physically turn up on the day. I hope we can find some way of involving people remotely in the meeting as well - perhaps through a videocam - does anyone know what Wikimania does for this? There are advantages in having in person meetings as well, though - it gives us an opportunity to discuss things more informally and get to know each other more that you can with an online meeting. Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
[Wikimediauk-l] IWF issues and Wiki UK Ltd
I just wanted to hear everyone's views about the role Wiki UK Ltd played in responding to the IWF issues. The general consensus among the Board was that we shouldn't really get involved as we didn't yet have chapter status. Individuals were encouraged to do what they could but the Board decided to stay stum itself and leave David and others to take the lead. Is everyone comfortable that that was the right decision? Presumably once Wiki UK is recognised as the chapter you would expect it to take more of a lead? Thanks ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] IWF issues and Wiki UK Ltd
On Dec 14, 9:32 pm, Andrew Cates and...@soschildren.org wrote: ... for this kind of thing I think you should feel we want you to speak and we'll let you know if we disagree. Even before we're officially a WMF chapter? Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Wikipedia quietly censored by Internet WatchFoundation
It seems the IWF are getting so much flak they've put a front page statement on their website: http://www.iwf.org.uk/media/news.249.htm Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l