Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Open Knowledge Conference (OKCon) 2010: Call for Proposals

2010-01-30 Thread AndrewRT
On Jan 21, 7:39 pm, Isabell Long isabell...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 06:24:29PM +, Jonathan Gray wrote:
  ~~ Open Knowledge Conference (OKCon) 2010: Call for Proposals ~~

   * where: London, UK
   * when: Saturday 24th April, 2010
   * www:http://www.okfn.org/okcon/
   * last year:http://www.okfn.org/okcon/2009/
   * cfp:http://www.okfn.org/okcon/cfp/(deadline: Jan 31st 2010)
   * hashtag: #okcon2010

 Is the actual event open to everyone?  I'm just wondering whether I can go to 
 the event, it looks pretty interesting from the website's information
 on previous years!  :)

Wikimedia UK has funds available to sponsor any members who want to go
along to this or any other open content event - please get in touch if
you would like to apply.

Regards,

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[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK Open decisions

2009-12-20 Thread AndrewRT
One of the things that a few people have mentioned as a real positive
about the chapter is the way that decisions are made openly in
consultation with members and supporters.

The home page makes quite a bg deal about this:

Open decisions

As an organisation promoting open knowledge, we also want to be
leaders in transparency regarding our decision making:

* Our constitution puts decision making in the hands of members
wherever possible
* We seek the widest possible membership base
* We are led by a seven person Board of Trustees, elected by the
members at the AGM
* All Board meetings are held in public on the internet. We publish
our Agenda beforehand and minutes afterwards
* We pledge to discuss all major decisions with our supporters
beforehand though our mailing list and our wiki
* We keep supporters informed through our monthly Newsletter which you
can subscribe to here.

Unfortunately with the pressure of too much to do plus some changes
brought in for efficiency reasons, some aspects of these have changed
in the last couple of months:

- Board meetings have moved from IRC to Skype, which we haven't been
able to open to the public or even publish the recordings afterwards
- We haven't been able to publish a newsletter since September
- There is little input to Board agendas or reaction to minutes
- Non-board activity on this email list, the wiki and in chapter
projects hasn't really developed in the way we originally hoped

I would like to ask how people see this who support the chapter but
aren't on the board. Are you hearing enough about what the board is
doing? Are you wanting to hear more? Are you happy with the amount of
input you have to chapter activities or do you want to get more
involved? Generally are you happy with the way the chapter is going?

Do any of these developments above matter to you, and if so, which
ones in particular?

If you do want to get more involved, what's the best way to engage?
Should the board use more, or less of:

- this email list?
- the wiki?
- direct emails to members?
- the monthly newsletter?
- the blog at http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/?
- the facebook group at http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5678482133ref=ts?
- the twitter feed at http://twitter.com/wikimediauk
- anything else?

All feedback and thoughts are welcome!

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Skeleton branches

2009-12-08 Thread AndrewRT
On Dec 7, 12:31 pm, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't think we need them until we are ready to use them fully. Do we
 have volunteers to be the regional chairs you mention? If they end up
 just being figureheads that things are done in the name of, I would be
 opposed.

Why? we have a resource - these names - that could be of use to us and
this is a way of unlocking them. What's the advantage in throwing away
this resource before we're ready to set up fully functioning
branches?

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[Wikimediauk-l] Skeleton branches

2009-12-06 Thread AndrewRT
When we were recognised as a chapter by the Foundation we got
permission to use names like Wikimedia Wales, Wikimedia
Scotland (plus other language derivations) with the thought that some
day they might be useful to have. We haven't yet had the need or
opportunity to use them, but there are a couple of things coming up in
the pipeline where it may be useful to brand ourselves Wikimedia
Cymru and Wikimedia Scotland respectively rather than Wikimedia UK.

I was thinking through how we could do this, and i was wondering if it
might be a bit too much to just use the name without any kind of
justification for the Welshness / Scottishness of the organisation.
This is the idea I've come up with, which can be implemented with
minimal effort  and still justify, if we need to, to the outside
world, our use of the terns. Please let me know what you think:

1) All members would automatically be allocated to a branch when they
join based on where they lived
2) Any member could choose to switch to a different branch if they
wanted to
3) The first branches would be England, Wales, Scotland and Northern
Ireland (could discuss setting up more if the need arose in the
future)
4) The board of Wikimedia UK could appoint a branch chair (and more
officers if need be) from one of the members of that branch.

That way we could brand things:

xx xx
Chair, Wikimedia Cymru
followed by a contact address in Wales

rather than:

xx xx
Secretary, Wikimedia UK
with a contact address in England

This would be particularly helpful when dealing with, for instance,
Welsh language projects or devolved governments.

Some time in the future - size and activity permitting - these may be
able to evolve into fully fledged autonomous branches - or even
independent chapters.

For the constitutionalists among readers, I'd propose we establish the
branches through an Article 28 resolution of the Board, ratified by
the next AGM.

Please let me know what you think.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Skeleton branches

2009-12-06 Thread AndrewRT
Thanks everyone for the comments. To respond to three points raised:

On Dec 6, 5:11 pm, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/12/6 AndrewRT andrewrtur...@googlemail.com:

 That's pretty much what I've been thinking, although I'm not sure we
 need it yet. I think we ought to let the members of each branch elect
 their chair, though (ratified by the board).

I think that's stage 2 - autonomous branches. Where you only have two
or three members having a full blown election seems unnecessary, but a
skeleton branch would be useful because it gives us a way of using
the name before moving to a full autonomous branch.

  For the constitutionalists among readers, I'd propose we establish the
  branches through an Article 28 resolution of the Board, ratified by
  the next AGM.

 I disagree. I think Article 3.1 is better suited to it.

Article 3.1 would need permission of the AGM first and I'm not sure it
would quite fit. I'm talking about two particular projects that could
be started before the AGM.

As for London, although it may be a great branch in terms of running
activities - although we already have the London Wikimeet for that -
I'm not sure we could do anything as Wikimedia London that we
couldn't do as Wikimedia UK. Besides, we didn't actually ask for
permission to use Wikimedia London!

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Next board meeting: this evening, with a different format

2009-10-21 Thread AndrewRT
How does everyone think it went on Tuesday? Personally I found the
Skype part to be much more productive than IRC - it was a lot easier
to discuss potentially contentious and complex issues over Skype than
over IRC.

The main negatives were the fact that it wasn't open to our supporters
to listen to and we couldn't record it for the record afterwards.

I notice now there's actually a Skype extra called Pamela for Skype
which can be used to record. It's available as a free 30 day trial or
€18 to buy - something like that might be worth doing, particularly if
we could get one for free!

When we came to the IRC there was significantly less participation
from non-board members (not including our Head of Fundraising) and it
would be good to see how we could enable that more.

On Oct 21, 11:56 am, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/10/21 Angela bees...@gmail.com:



  2009/10/20 Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net:
  Due to technical limitations, it
  won't be possible to have this part of the meeting open to the
  public.

  Have you considered using a free conference call number instead? That
  way people can phone in any way they like, with Skype, or with a
  normal phone, or whatever. It removes the restrictions on the number
  of people that can call in and avoids people being forced to use Skype
  if they choose not to.

  I don't know about the ones in the UK, but I've used a couple of US
  ones which worked ok. It cost the same as a normal call would (Skype
  to the US is 1.4p per minute). I believe they have options to moderate
  the call and mute certain people, but I've not tried that. Some also
  offer recordings.

  http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=enq=free+conference+callmeta=cr%3Dcount...countryGB

 That costs money. I would rather stick with a free option like Skype,
 which I think we can make do what we want.

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[Wikimediauk-l] AGM pictures

2009-05-01 Thread AndrewRT
Has anyone got any pictures of the AGM? If so, could you upload them
to the wiki at uk.wikimedia.org.

It would be good to have some pics so we can start to illustrate the
site.

Cheers!

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[Wikimediauk-l] Board report for AGM

2009-04-15 Thread AndrewRT
We're planning to do a brief Board report (perhaps 1 or 2 pages) to
the AGM summarising the acheivements of the initial Board.

Has anyone got ideas for what they would like it to contain? If so,
please comment here:

http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Meetings/2009_AGM/Board%27s_Report

Thanks

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[Wikimediauk-l] Media contacts

2009-04-08 Thread AndrewRT
One of the key things that the chapter does/will do is to do with
media contacts. I've started a section and a page on the wiki -
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page#Media_relations - to record
what we do - please could you edit away!

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[Wikimediauk-l] Userpage template

2009-04-08 Thread AndrewRT
I've created a new template which members can add to their userpages
to advertise WMUK and encourage other people to get involved. Please
edit away if you can improve!

Just add {{WMUK}} to the top of your English Wikipedia or Wikinews
page (feel free to copy across to other projects as required)

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[Wikimediauk-l] Membership drive template

2009-04-08 Thread AndrewRT
I've put together a proposed tempate for sending round everyone who's
previously expressed an interest in the chapter but hasn't joined up
yet.

It's at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AndrewRT/WMUK#Join_up_template

Please let me know if yu have any suggestions for improvements.

Cheers

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[Wikimediauk-l] Reminder - deadline for Board nominations is Sunday!

2009-04-04 Thread AndrewRT
Just a reminder that there are only 25 hours to go before close of
nominations for the new Board! If you are interested in running, all
that is needed is a quick email to tell...@wikimedia.org.uk with the
information requested at

http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings/2009_AGM/Notice#Nomination

regards,

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[Wikimediauk-l] Becoming a Board member

2009-04-01 Thread AndrewRT
We had a chat at the Board meeting last night and there was a bit of
nervousness at the fewness of people who have expressed an interest in
standing for the Board. The applications are going straight to the
tellers so the current Board members won't actually know who's applied
until they're anounced in about a week's time (so that they dont get
an unfair advantage over other candidates) but from discussions it
looked like only two of the five interim Board members have applied
and the other three are looking to retire; two non-Board members are
also interested in applying and we don't know of anyone else who has
come forward.

One aspect which might be putting people off is the frequency and
length of the Board meetings we've been having to date. The initial
Board has met 23 times so far (nearly once per week on average) often
for 3 hours or more. Whilst this is probably necessary when we're
getting things sorted out, I'd like to suggest that the next board has
shorter and less frequent meetings. I think meeting once per month for
no more than 2 hours would be ideal, so that it's not too much of a
burdon on Board members and we avoid burning our volunteers out. At
the same time we can change the Board into more of an oversight
role, and do more organising work outside.

It's surprising what you can acheive when working to a strict
deadline, and our productivity does tend to dive after a couple of
hours.

Hopefully this will also encourage people who are thinking of putting
their names forward but are put off by the commitment of meetings.

What do others think?

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[Wikimediauk-l] Anonymous editing on uk.wikimedia.org

2009-03-21 Thread AndrewRT
I've started a poll at 
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Water_cooler#Anonymous_editing_poll
on whether we should continue allowing anonymous editing on
uk.wikimedia.org. Please let me know your views.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art?

2009-03-20 Thread AndrewRT
Thanks for the nudge!

I've been in touch with the organisers at the Brooklyn; they are
currently working through each of the 11,528 images to check they are
all copyright-compliant and otherwise ok. They haven't been able to
tell me when they'll be finished, but I'll keep hassling them!

Hope to be able to announce our winners by the middle of April.

regards,

On Mar 20, 9:11 am, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:
 What happened to Wikipedia Loves Art?

 http://www.flickr.com/groups/wikipedia_loves_art/

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Loves_Art

 Did I win?

 :D

 Gordo

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM

2009-03-20 Thread AndrewRT
Jimbo unfortunately has turned his facebook reply from accept to
decline which I guess means he pressed the wrong button! Pity!

Personally I'm most looking forward to the talks and the discussion on
the chapter's priorities.

The hustings should also be interesting as it will continue the debate
on priorities. The election will almost certainly be contested, in
that we've got at least six prospective candidates already and
candidates after number 3 need to get more than 50% approval to be
elected. Hence even if we get only seven candidates, still every vote
will count.

Andrew

On Mar 20, 10:15 am, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/3/20 Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com:



  So what are the interesting parts of the AGM?

  The BBC / Jimbo / both?

 The hustings might be fairly interesting, I guess it depends on how
 many people stand (if the election is uncontested, they will be pretty
 boring, however eloquent the candidates may be!). I'm looking forward
 to the BBC talk/discussion if it happens (which I very much hope it
 does). If Jimbo gives a talk as well, that would probably be quite
 good, although I think I already know Jimbo's views on most relevant
 subjects, whereas I don't know the views of the BBC, so the BBC will
 probably be more interesting.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Gift Aid update

2009-03-20 Thread AndrewRT
On Mar 18, 11:39 pm, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
 ... CC [Charity Commission] will almost certainly want written
 confirmation (unconditionally, that is - what we have at the moment is
 all conditional on us winning the bid)

The CC application form (http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/Library/
publications/pdfs/cc5atext.pdf) asks, for charities which do not yet
have statutory accounts, for the estimated gross income in the first
year of operation. The accompanying guidance notes (http://
www.charitycommission.gov.uk/Library/publications/pdfs/cc5btext.pdf)
go on to say state that If you do not provide evidence that the gross
annual income will exceed £5,000, such as ... a pledge of funding ...
we will return your application as incomplete

Hopefully we'll have these by the time the bid is decided.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Gift Aid update

2009-03-18 Thread AndrewRT
On Mar 18, 12:54 pm, joseph seddon 
life_is_bitter_sw...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
 I think that making preparations for both drafting a complaint to HMRC and 
 preparing an application to CC should start now. Even if the preparations are 
 only minor. Delaying either by any real length of time could affect Wikimania 
 significantly.

I agree entirely. Complaint letter has already been drafted and will
hopefully go out tomorrow. I think the CC application should be ready
to be put in the post the day after we win Wikimania? Even better,
anyone know a benefactor willing to give us £4,700? Or a few to give
us £1,000 each? They can even earmark it to whatever they want, just
so we get the income to qualify!

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[Wikimediauk-l] Volunteer teller

2009-03-16 Thread AndrewRT
One of our tellers has unfortunately had to pull out, so the Board is
looking for a replacement. Is anyone able to volunteer?

We have one teller, so if no-one comes forward we'll just appoint a
second person to count the votes at the AGM. However, it would be
ideal if we could get a second teller beforehand, so that they can
receive the electronic votes as they come in.

Please let me know if you can help us this way.

Regards,

Andrew Turvey
Secretary
Wikimedia UK

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Board meeting tonight + Wikimania bid meeting beforehand

2009-03-10 Thread AndrewRT
In case you don't have the addresses to hand:

board meeting: #wikimedia-uk-board
discussion: #wikimedia-uk
wikimania: #wikimania-oxford

On Mar 10, 6:40 pm, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Reminder: There is a board meeting on IRC tonight at 8:30pm.

 My main reason for this email, though, is to unilaterally announce a
 meeting to discuss the Wikimania bid before the board meeting (we
 tried doing so after the board meeting before but we were all asleep
 by then), so that meeting will be at 8pm. Hopefully enough people will
 get this email and turn up, if they don't then we'll have to schedule
 a meeting with a little more advance notice!

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM in Manchester

2009-03-09 Thread AndrewRT


On Mar 9, 8:15 am, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:
 At 13:19 + 7/3/09, Andrew Turvey wrote:



 Hi all,

 Unfortunately we've drawn a blank with finding a suitable free venue
 in Birmingham, so we've decided to move to plan B, which is
 Manchester.

 Does anyone have any contacts - for instance at the University -
 which would enable them to book a room for free on Saturday 25th or
 Sunday 26th April?

 If so please could you reply to the list or to me directly asap.

 regards,

 Andrew

 Does

 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings/2009_AGM/Notice

 need an update?

 Gordo

Yes - are you volunteering :) It's only a draft at present - will be
finalised when we book the venue.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM in Manchester

2009-03-08 Thread AndrewRT
The Board was very clear to me - only free or nearly free (i.e. £10)
would do!

If we're not able to get a free room, I guess we can start looking at
non-free ones.

On Mar 8, 12:38 am, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/3/7 Andrew Turvey ratur...@yahoo.co.uk:

  Hi all,

  Unfortunately we've drawn a blank with finding a suitable free venue in
  Birmingham, so we've decided to move to plan B, which is Manchester.

 Have you looked at non-free venues? A function room in a pub probably
 wouldn't cost all that much, we don't need much more than that. B'ham
 is better located than Manchester.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM in Manchester

2009-03-08 Thread AndrewRT
Personally, I think a meeting in a pub or even a pub room gives a very
different impression to a meeting in a university room, and we need to
bear that in mind. Imagine giving a presentation or holding hustings.

Although we're only small now, I hope this is the start of something
big. I say let's start as we mean to go on!

On Mar 8, 12:42 am, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/3/8 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:

  Have you looked at non-free venues? A function room in a pub probably
  wouldn't cost all that much, we don't need much more than that. B'ham
  is better located than Manchester.

 Function rooms in pubs are frequently free if you ask nicely.
 Certainly WMUK v1 never paid for use of the function room of whatever
 that pub was in Borough.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM Resolutions

2009-03-03 Thread AndrewRT
On Mar 3, 10:26 pm, James Forrester ja...@jdforrester.org wrote:
 2009/3/3 AndrewRT ratur...@yahoo.co.uk:

  The Board has an action to register with the Charity Commission as
  soon as it's likely that our income will be more than £5,000 - which
  will be as soon were announced as the winning bid for Wikimania 2010 (-
  grin-), or, failing that, when our donations get to that level in I
  guess 1-2 years' time?

 Hmm. Frankly, I expect us to clear the £5000 threshold in a matter of
 months - there have been lots of expressions of interest over the
 years. We on the old Board considered full Charity status to be an
 absolute priority, and our failure to achieve it was what led the
 Board to close WMUK v.1 down in favour of re-starting.

 Yours,
 --
 James D. Forrester

Unfortunately, the Charities Commission are currently not considering
applications for charitable status from organisations with a turnover
of less than £5,000 per year unless there are exceptional
circumstances:

http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/publications/cc21.asp#32

65. We will only consider an application for registration from an
organisation below the minimum income in exceptional circumstances.

I'm afraid I think we have no choice but to wait until we're at that
level - which as you say, hopefully won't be too long.

regards,

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Citing wikipedia

2009-02-24 Thread AndrewRT
On Feb 24, 1:46 am, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/2/24 AndrewRT ratur...@yahoo.co.uk:

  Just reading the news online and came across this article:

 http://euobserver.com/851/27587

  Look closely and you can see the picture cites wikipedia

  I know pictures often cite AFP like that - but is this enough under
  the GDFL? If not, what is the procedure for reporting copyright
  abuses?

  Andrew

 Normally we poke the author of the image and ask them.

 --
 geni

We being who exactly? Is there a group of people (volunteers or
officials) who take it upon themselves to do this?

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[Wikimediauk-l] Citing wikipedia

2009-02-23 Thread AndrewRT
Just reading the news online and came across this article:

http://euobserver.com/851/27587

Look closely and you can see the picture cites wikipedia

I know pictures often cite AFP like that - but is this enough under
the GDFL? If not, what is the procedure for reporting copyright
abuses?

Andrew

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Chapters Meeting

2009-02-10 Thread AndrewRT
On Feb 10, 8:47 pm, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's probably worth pointing out that at the moment less than 7 people
 have expressed an interest in standing for the 7 seats on the board,

I don't think we should assume that this will remain the case. Out of
the five current Board members one has indicated he's going to step
down, one (me) has said he will continue and the other three have said
they'll probably stand again. Two people from outside the board at the
IRC meeting last week said they planned to stand making six already,
and nominations haven't even officially opened yet!

Add in the two other people - Kate and Skemny - who stood last time
and might do so again, also the five Board members of WMUKv1 some of
whom might now want to stand again plus of course anyone else we
manage to engage between now and then, and I think we'll probably end
up with more than 7.

Andrew

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: BBC Radio Wales interview

2009-02-01 Thread AndrewRT
Just had a listen - you did well, thanks for picking this up!

I guess the main message was flagged revisions are not a fundamental
change, just an extension of existing protection processes which you
put across well, along with the impetus for action from the senators.

Pity you couldn't get the Wikimedia UK spokesman role across and were
introduced as just a wikipedia editor.

On Feb 1, 11:25 pm, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote:
 Not sure if this got through... apologies if it arrives twice.

 Mike

 Begin forwarded message:

  From: Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net
  Date: 1 February 2009 18:31:14 GMT
  To: wikimediau...@lists.wikimedia.org
  Cc: Communications Committee wmfc...@lists.wikimedia.org
  Subject: BBC Radio Wales interview

  ... was broadcast today, and is now on the BBC iPlayer, see:

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00h9045/b00h903q/
  mousemat_01_02_2009/

  There's a bit at the beginning about Brittanica, followed by me on  
  Wikipedia. Comments / criticisms welcome.

  Mike

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art

2009-01-11 Thread AndrewRT
On Jan 10, 10:56 am, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:

 How does that sound? Complicated...

Can you suggest any ways of making it simpler?

 ...and the competitor cannot control
 stage 2. So it is no longer a scavenger hunt at that stage,

Yes, I spoke to Pharos about this previously - he though it would be
best to keep the competition restricted to stage 1. Stage 2 is still
important of course otherwise wikipedia doesn't get to benefit from
the photos and everyone is welcome to join in!

 there
 may be wrangling... if the other parties don't like the images (not
 the judges).

Yes - that's the main reason why Pharos thought it best not to have
the competetion at this stage.

 And I thought that this was a team competition.

 http://www.flickr.com/groups/wikipedia_loves_art/

 Shoot on your own or create a small team (10 people, tops) and
 sign-up online (posted soon).

Yes I forgot that bit, you can also do it in a team if you prefer.

 Is the V  A competition a solo effort?

No. It's a bit complicated and personally I feel like I'm being pulled
in all directions! The project is being organised by the Brooklyn
Museum in New York, who have asked other museums to get involved.
Pharos is coordinating the wikipedia side in New York and globally;
the VA are organising (although I'm not sure exactly what at this
stage) the London launch event on 1st Feb and my job is to advertise
the London event among the WP community and get as many people along
as possible!

Points will be added up and prizes given to the different teams who
participate at the different museums.

Hope that's a little clearer!

Andrew

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Gift Aid - a further update

2009-01-07 Thread AndrewRT
On Jan 5, 10:01 pm, Andrew Cates and...@soschildren.org wrote:


 ... Can you
 accept CAF cheques yet?

I'm afraid not. Looking at the CAF guidelines here:
http://www.cafonline.org/PDF/0650Z_pdfCollection_0708.pdf the charity
must be registered with HMRC before they will pay out on any CAF
cheques and it is likely to be mid to late February before that
occurs.

Please note also that membership subscriptions are not eligible for
Gift Aid (as distinct from donations) and so we cannot accept CAF
cheques for these.

Regards,

Andrew T

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Manchester meetup

2009-01-04 Thread AndrewRT
On Jan 3, 7:31 pm, michael west michaw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wikipedia is the encyclopedia *anyone *can edit. I have not been barred from
 editing and do edit under a wikiname that wouldn't  link me to my past.

I think one of the strengths of wikipedia is that contributions are
taken at face value for what they are, rather than based on who
submits them. The sourcing should speak for itself!

 ... Wikipedia doesn't mandate
 its editors to be truthful

From what I understand no editor is expected to reveal more about
themselves - or their editing past - than they feel comfortable with.
Don't ask and don't tell is my view. However, I'm sure I would agree
that lying is ok on wikipedia - please see 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Honesty
for an essay on the subject.

Regards,

Andrew

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Gift Aid - a further update

2009-01-02 Thread AndrewRT
On Jan 2, 4:22 pm, Andrew Cates and...@soschildren.org wrote:
 Any progress on accepting direct debits?

We will be able to accept standig orders as soon as the bank account
is finalised which should be soon after Foundation approval next
Sunday.

I think the Board decided against direct debits as they were too
expensive, but I can't find the decision at the moment - cfp could you
confirm?

We're also looking into paypal which could be promising.

Hope this helps,

Andrew

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[Wikimediauk-l] Attendence at AGM

2009-01-01 Thread AndrewRT
Hi all,

Happy New Year to everyone!

We're starting to look at the practicalities of the AGM and I though
it'd be useful to get an idea of how many people might attend in
person so we can book a suitable room.

Bearing in mind:
- all members will be able to vote - both for resolutions and for the
new board members - electronically without needing to attend
- we hope to have some kind of ability to allow people to contribute
to discussion remotely - but the details haven't been worked out yet
- the location is likely to be soemwhere central in either Birmingham
or Manchester (the decision on the city will be made 13th Jan)
- the date hasn't been fixed but is likely to be a weekend day at the
end of Feb or early March.

The main advantages of the day are:

- you get to see and hear the candidates for the Board and other
people involved in the chapter
- you can discuss and debate the priorities of the chapter with other
people
- you can hear talks from one of the exciting speakers we have booked
to come (details to follow)

Can you let me know if you personally would be interested in attending
in person and how many people you might expect to show up?

Thanks

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Next meeting - Tuesday 13th Jan 2009, 8:30pm GMT

2009-01-01 Thread AndrewRT
 Just to let you know the Board meeting today decided to call the next meeting 
 in a fortnight's time, Tuesday 13th January 2009 at 8:30pm GMT/UTC.

The Agenda is now available here:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK_v2.0/Board_meetings/2009-01-13/Agenda

Please comment there if you would like to input into any item on the
agenda or would like to suggest something additional to discuss.

Cheers

Andrew Turvey
Secretary
Wiki UK Limited
Wiki UK Limited is a Company Limited by Guarantee
registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. The
Registered
Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL, United Kingdom

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Meeting tonight.

2008-12-30 Thread AndrewRT
On Dec 30, 6:45 pm, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:
 I will be in the room, silent... like an elephant!

Hope you enjoyed it!

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[Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art

2008-12-30 Thread AndrewRT
Hi all,

I'm starting to get some more details together about the events at the
Victoria  Albert Museum that we're running as part of the Wikipedia
Loves Art project.

The VA are organising their launch event on Sunday 1st February -
time to be confirmed. If you can come down that day or otherwise
contribute either in person or on wiki during February please sign you
name up here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:w...@v%26a#participants

Please spread the word to anyone else you know who may be interested -
the following groups have already been notified:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:w...@v%26a#publicity and please
add in any other groups you contact.

Lastly, we're planning a short discussion on irc:wikimedia-uk to
organise the event and sort out how the VA element is going to fit in
with the international project.

If you can think of anything else please post on the project talkpage!

Regards,

Andrew

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-22 Thread AndrewRT

On Dec 22, 12:53 am, AndrewRT ratur...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Informed by the discussion we've had here, I'm going to propose that
 the next Board meeting on tuesday

I should of course have said _next_ tuesday, i.e. 30th!

Just confusing myself again!

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Minutes of the Wiki UK Ltd board meeting, 16/12/08

2008-12-21 Thread AndrewRT

On Dec 18, 8:39 am, Kwan Ting Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote:

 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK_v2.0/Board_meetings/2008-

 There's nothing on there at the moment other than the standard items and
 matter arising from the last meeting.

Thanks for that.

With regard the Election Rules, I suggest these are formally adopted
either at this meeting or at the following one.

The current version (http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?
title=Wikimedia_UK_v2.0/Election_Rulesoldid=1317410) seem to have
broad support. In essense they say:
* 7 Board members
* elected under the Approval Voting method
* only those who get 50% are elected
* elections run by one or more Teller(s) who are appointed by the
Board and can't be candidates themselves
* voting can be either electronically to the Teller or in person by a
paper ballot at the AGM
* timescales set out for inviting candidates, nominations and election

The only remaining uncertain area is on the question - what do we do
when the electorate is opposed to most or all of the candidates. In
discussions on meta I've proposed three options:

(a) Elect the top 7 anyway (you could say like UK elections!)
(b) Only elect those that get more than 50%, except for the top
candidate who would be elected regardless and if he was the only
candidate elected their sole task post-election would be to organise a
new election
(c) Only elect those that get more than 50%, except for the top 3/5
candidates who would be elected regardless; post-election they would
have all the powers of any other Board.

Other than this is it ready to go to the Board for approval?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-21 Thread AndrewRT
Informed by the discussion we've had here, I'm going to propose that
the next Board meeting on tuesday decide the location of the AGM so
that we can start organising it.

There seems to be a broad consensus that the location should be easily
accessible by transport and should rotate around several places.
Therefore I suggest:

- Oxford is chosen at the location for the Spring 2010 AGM in the run
up to Wikimania
- Given that London was the location for the Wikimedia v1 formation
meeting, we go elsewhere for now
- AGM 2009 is held in Birmingham, or, if we can't find a suitable
venue, Manchester

How does that sound?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Minutes of the Wiki UK Ltd board meeting, 16/12/08

2008-12-17 Thread AndrewRT
On Dec 17, 10:19 pm, Mickey Conn mickey.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi -

 The next board meeting will be in two weeks time, on Tuesday 30th December.

Thanks for these minutes Mickey.

KTC - would it be possible to see an early Agenda for the next
meeting, so we can consider what items the Board may need to action?

Andrew

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-14 Thread AndrewRT
On Dec 1, 12:37 pm, Michael Shilliday mjshilli...@googlemail.com
wrote:
 I have never commented here before, but why the need for a physical AGM?
  Incorporated companies have been having online AGMs for years now.  It may
 be necessary for a small group of people to be sitting in a room together,
 but the voting members don't necessarily need to be.
 There may be a hugely compelling reason why this is necessary, but that's
 just my thoughts,

 MJS

First, welcome, and thanks for your contribution! Hope it will be the
first of many :)

All members will get an opportunity to vote electronically on all the
resolutions and voting for the new Board members, even if they can't
physically turn up on the day. I hope we can find some way of
involving people remotely in the meeting as well - perhaps through a
videocam - does anyone know what Wikimania does for this?

There are advantages in having in person meetings as well, though - it
gives us an opportunity to discuss things more informally and get to
know each other more that you can with an online meeting.

Andrew

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[Wikimediauk-l] IWF issues and Wiki UK Ltd

2008-12-14 Thread AndrewRT
I just wanted to hear everyone's views about the role Wiki UK Ltd
played in responding to the IWF issues.

The general consensus among the Board was that we shouldn't really get
involved as we didn't yet have chapter status. Individuals were
encouraged to do what they could but the Board decided to stay stum
itself and leave David and others to take the lead. Is everyone
comfortable that that was the right decision?

Presumably once Wiki UK is recognised as the chapter you would expect
it to take more of a lead?

Thanks

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] IWF issues and Wiki UK Ltd

2008-12-14 Thread AndrewRT
On Dec 14, 9:32 pm, Andrew Cates and...@soschildren.org wrote:
 ... for this kind of thing I think you
 should feel we want you to speak and we'll let you know if we
 disagree.

Even before we're officially a WMF chapter?

Andrew

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Wikipedia quietly censored by Internet WatchFoundation

2008-12-07 Thread AndrewRT
It seems the IWF are getting so much flak they've put a front page
statement on their website:

http://www.iwf.org.uk/media/news.249.htm

Andrew

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