Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Launching a Wikipedia for children soon, you may help !
I would be grateful to learn how this Wiki project fits alongside Simple English Wikipedia: http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page ...and how the project intends to avoid a situation where well-meaning volunteers find themselves spending a lot of effort doing work that's already been done. Bodnotbod On 19 February 2014 23:31, Mathias Damour mathias.dam...@laposte.net wrote: Hi, Since I was able and glad to come in EduWiki 2013 in Cardiff, to make a presentation about the Wikikids proposal : https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/EduWiki_Conference_2013/Abstracts#Wikikids_-_Mathias_Damour we have gone forward and we are about to launch Vikidia in English on the 28th of February. It's already open with restricted access, and the early editors mainly come from the other Vikidias and from WikiKids.nl. Nevertheless, I would be glad that Wikimedia UK or some of it's member gets involved and supports this project, (Wikimedia France does), provided that if it makes its way properly, it can have a great impact for our goals. If you want to have a look, it's http://en.vikidia.org and the codes are vikidia and aidikiv We have set up most of the basic/frame pages and we better them before launching the wiki. Here they are : http://en.vikidia.org/wiki/Vikidia:Talk/2014/8 Here is a scratch communiqué/launching message : May you be interested in this project and spread, advice or help it ? * A Vikidia opens today, let's built a children wiki encyclopedia in English ! Vikidia is the equivalent of Wikipedia for children: an online encyclopedic project, for 8-13 year-old readers, open to contributors of any age. It was launched in November 2006 in French, then in Spanish, Italian, Russian and now English. It aims both to offer a suitable corpus of knowledge for children and to let some of them, as well as teenagers them be involved in building it. It is very close to Wikipedia in its aim and functioning, except the age range. Such wikis have proven their sustainability, relevance and success, the two biggest ones this model being Vikidia in French and WikiKids.nl in Dutch, with respectively 16000 and 14000 articles and hundreds of thousand readers every month. Many children already use Wikipedia daily, for the substantial content and the well known convenient way it is to find material on any subject. However, the level of Wikipedia articles makes them hardly accessible for children or even other people on some subjects and they may read it for lack of a better resource. There is some television programs for children, some books, some movies for children and even some newspapers and magazines. It would be unsound to consider that they couldn't make a great use of a children encyclopedia. Many children really need and appreciate when it does exist to have a more readable content for them. They tell it on the French Vikidia guestbook, on which the main remarks are that they like it and that they would like to find more articles and more content in most articles. It is not designed only for children but for everybody who want a simple explanation on a subject. That mean that the content must be suitable for 8-13 years old children, based on the general perception of what is or not considered as possibly offensive for this age range. That also mean that we take each subject seriously in order to build a quality and substantial documentary resource. To offer to some children and teenagers to take part in such a resource and to be active in the building process is also obviously a matter of empowerment. The mere possibility to add something may also change one child's motivation for the content as a reader. Everybody is invited to edit Vikidia without age restrictions. There are no mandatory or forbidden roles or status related to the users real ages. Vikidia both needs grown-up contributions and enable children and teenagers to write and to be involved in building the encyclopedia. Young people can also be involved within educational activities organised by schools. They may gain some digital/media literacy by learning about the functioning of a resource they will use extensively few years later: Wikipedia, although the goal is still to create content an the knowledge resource benefit of such a project: school projects are welcomed provided they consider the wiki's rules and content objectives. - Adults involvement is essential for building content that is of quality and significance, fostering basic maintenance: to watch and ensure a certain stability in the functioning of the wiki, - children's involvement, even when they don't produce very long articles, let appear works on subjects that interest their peers, it responds to their aspirations and their desire to participate and they definitely take their share in growing the content and in maintenance tasks, - older children, teenagers that
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK will have interns over the next three months
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Daria Cybulska daria.cybul...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Dear All, Wikimedia UK will have an intern in the office working with us for 6 weeks over the Summer (as per http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Summer_intern) I'm pleased to see a list of tasks at the link. I've not been an intern but I did two bouts of work experience at school age and my times at both were appallingly rotten experiences. So please try to avoid: 1. Giving them too many trips to the coffee making facilities (making refreshments is an OK thing to get an intern to do, but please make them one every now and again and please don't make them feel that refreshments is their key role). 2. Please find interesting things for them to do. If the office is busy there may be a temptation to think well, in the time it takes me to train the intern to do this, I could have done it myself. But the intern is there to develop skills. So please teach them some cool stuff, It would also be great if people would make an effort to drop by the office and chat to the intern on a friendly basis. Is there a plan for the intern to fill in feedback about her time there? It would be good for WMUK to know what she thinks and to feed that back for when the next intern is present. Don't know whether Isabelle is going to see this (is she on the mailing list now?) but if so: hello! I hope you have a fulfilling time. Bod Notbod ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Election and resolution results
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 6:50 PM, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: Therefore Christopher Keating, Michael Peel, Ashley Van Haeften, Joscelyn Upendran,John Byrne, Roger Bamkin and Doug Taylor have been duly elected to serve as Directors of Wikimedia UK. Which sent me scurrying back to read all the statements of the successful candidates. And I have to say I am very pleased with the look of the board and look forward, with optimism, to great things from them. Congratulations to those elected. Can I encourage the same to make sure they have a somewhat decent user page on the WMUK wiki so that anyone wanting to know a bit about the board can easily find some info. Also, is there a place on the wiki for people to do a write up of events on Saturday? There will be official minutes of the AGM but I'm thinking more of something to give people a sense of the day - more colourful than minutes - for those who were unable to attend. Or perhaps someone can send such in response to this email. Bodnotbod ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 'twas the night before the AGM...
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Tom Holden tom.hol...@economics.ox.ac.uk wrote: Should we have had confirmation of our proxy votes? Going on personal experience, the trick here is to submit your votes including a procedural mistake of some kind; they got back to me straight away due to that. :O) Bodnotbod ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 23:24, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: By virtue of being very active the chapter may be stifling non-chapter chat. You put an image in my mind of non-chapter messages being bounced out of the system by a raging torrent of chapter messages that cannot be forded. An image, I feel confident, bears no relation to reality. Bodnotbod ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Discussing risk in Wikimedia UK
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 13:44, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Following the bard meeting at the weekend... Good to see WMUK getting behind the Shakespeare birthday celebrations. B ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikim
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 14:48, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: We’re happy to announce our fourth employee at the UK chapter – Stevie Benton. Stevie will be taking on the communications role for the charity. He has worked in non-profit communications for over eight years in a variety of disciplines, I am curious to know which non-profits he has worked for. and is a long-suffering fan of the Philadelphia Eagles NFL team. Again, just curious; this isn't a misguided matter of parochialism... is he American? Anyway, welcome Stevie. It should be an interesting job. Bodnotbod ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] We've done it!!
Well done to everyone who worked for this. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] World Wars project
Hello all, I see from the 2012 activity plan that there's a budget for a World Wars project [1]. Is there a leader for this? An online presence? I'd like to keep in touch with the project with focus on WWI so as to get stuff done before the centenary. I actually read a heap of WWI articles last year and no doubt did some wikignome-like edits along the way. I'm not inclined to do social things like leaving the house and talking to people, but anything that's computer-based I may be persuaded to attend to for two or three hours a week. I can be persuaded to invest in and read some books, although if the books were to come out of the budget and then be placed in Wikimedia UKs hands afterwards that would be preferable. There is, of course, a MILHIST task force for each war. [2] [3] If anyone's in charge of this, make yourself known and I shall follow you for a bit and see what's up. I suggest whoever takes the lead brings MILHIST on board as they are (I believe) a very successful wikiproject with tons of experience and many featured and other high quality articles to their name. User:Bodnotbod [1] http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/2012_Activity_Plan#Cultural_sector [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/World_War_I_task_force [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/World_War_II_task_force ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] World Wars project
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote: I am keen to move [the World Wars project] further, though I don't have much time spare until the New Year as I'm mainly occupied on the Fundraiser. So at the moment I'm mainly collating interested parties, with a view to getting a core group of Wikimedians together who want to shape what we do with this, and a core group of partner institutions, and putting the two groups together in a room in January or February and seeing what they come up with in terms of inspiration for the period 2012-2014. Hi Chris, Thank you for all the information. Well, perhaps you'd like to add me to any list you're keeping of interested parties? There's a chance I might venture out for a meeting but I do generally find that sort of thing a bit daunting and have health issues making it all rather difficult, so I may just avail myself of any minutes or record of any face-to-face stuff that comes out. I can then respond on-wiki as directed or under my own steam. If you (or anyone) is able and willing to do an audio or video recording of any meetings that would be brilliant for me. Perhaps too much of a faff just to accommodate me and maybe off-putting for some participants but please consider it. On the plus side, a video might serve to recruit people to the project if there is any interesting contributions from institutions and Wikipedians. Please do get in touch in the new year when you take further action. It wouldn't have occurred to me that we're approaching the centenary without seeing that on the activity plan today, so thank you for that. Bodnotbod ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question: UK versus regional branding
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Brian McNeil brian.mcn...@wikinewsie.org wrote: All three of the major UK political parties are looking seriously to, at a minimum, devolve their Scottish presence and give it far more autonomy. The impression I got, in the case of the tories, was that the Scottish tory MPs wanted to re-brand and distance themselves but their English counterparts weren't keen on them splitting away. I'm not sure that's looking to devolve. But I guess this point is not particularly relevant to Wikimedia UK's merchandising... Bodnotbod ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question about the addition of BBC content to Wikipedia entries
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 4:39 AM, Richard Farmbrough
rich...@farmbrough.co.uk wrote:
I created a template to link to the 330 episodes, {{In Our Time}}, and put
instructions on about 100 talk pages. The template links to the synopsis
page and to the listen again page. Status of placing the links is also on
the template documentation page.
That's brilliant Richard! I was aware that there was a pretty good
archive of the programmes on the BBC site but I had no idea that many
were available. Great work.
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question about the addition of BBC content to Wikipedia entries
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Steve Bowbrick steve.bowbr...@bbc.co.uk wrote: The producer of Melvyn Bragg's In Our Time are wondering if there'd be any value in adding episodes from the In Our Time archive, which is now complete, to relevant Wikipedia entries? This is fab! I am a great fan of In Our Time and as someone else said, the programmes would certainly be suitable additions to some of our articles. I agree with others that a first step should be to see if they will license the programmes in accordance with Wikipedia's content, ie for upload to Commons. If not, I can't really see how we could use the content more directly than merely to provide an external link. If they were on Commons people would be able, I assume, to use clips of the shows in articles for which the whole programme isn't relevant, which would be marvellous. User:Bodnotbod. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 2010 Wikimedia Fundraising
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: Coming up with good banners is a very big part of that. It seems very likely that we'll be able to have separate banners for different countries this fundraiser, so try and come up with messages that will really appeal to UK donors. Thanks! Yep, it does seem banners will once again be the key part of the fundraising drive. There is some talk about other methods; I'm particularly interested in trying to use other sites (YouTube, Twitter, Facebook) to get the message out: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010/Social_Media Once the fundraiser starts, it would be great if everyone would send at least a Tweet or FB update to spread the word. Official start date for the campaign is November 7th. Another volunteer and I have had some feedback regarding YouTube from the WMF and they are looking into putting together some footage that was taken at the Wikimania. I hope they're referring to something other than raw footage of Wikimania talks! I shall be keeping an eye on that. If any member of the UK chapter has video equipment and skills please consider creating a video; it could be as simple as just talking to the camera about why you have a passion for the project or as ambitious as creating an animation or taking vox pops on the street. A donation link in the accompanying text would obviously be key and ideally some kind of 'please donate' message on-screen - at least as a caption - too. The Foundation has its own channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/WikimediaFoundation As does Wikimedia UK http://www.youtube.com/user/WikimediaUK Both are rather sparsely populated. Unfortunately I have no video equipment and am, for the most part, housebound so I can really only offer encouragement and feedback as far as videos are concerned. Actually, that's a bit weak, isn't it? I'll email friends to see if I can borrow some and perhaps do a piece-to-camera in my room or something. Not sure my face will be a good selling point, though :O) If any of you are bloggers or content creators of whatever form you may be interested in something mentioned in Signpost; a way to monetise your content online: http://flattr.com/ ...if you follow-up on that and make some money, remember you heard it through the UK Chapter (hint, hint). Regards, en:User:Bodnotbod ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] An email contact list perhaps we should be added to.
Hi, Stumbled across this page on Meta: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapters_email_management Hardly any projects are listed thus far, but I thought I'd notify the UK Chapter so it can consider adding itself. Best, en.User:Bodnotbod ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] 2010 Wikimedia Fundraising
Hello, Just thought I'd mention, since I hadn't seen anything on this list yet, that 2010 Fundraising plans are being made. I assume some of you will want to get involved since the Chapter stands to raise some money too. Here's the main page on Meta: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010 As always, banners will be a key fundraising device, so do comment on them. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010/Messages I actually find donor comments more compelling and I'm in the process of pulling out comments from the donation logs. You can help; please see the To Do list here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010/Messages/Testimonials_from_donation_log_(edited) ...and get involved. Cheers, User:Bodnotbod ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC Content 'n' Commons
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Angela bees...@gmail.com wrote: One problem is their funding can be interpreted as meaning the content should only be made available to the public _in the UK_. Which led to the strange UK only licence at http://www.bbc.co.uk/creativearchive/licence/index.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/virtualrevolution/licences/digitalrevolution_licence.shtml is a second example of them making up their own license. They have also released some things under a real Creative Commons license, but as far as I know, only ever one of the non-commercial ones. eg http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/13946 Thanks for the links, they've led me to some content I didn't know about. A shame they've made their own licence. I suppose I understand the 'non-commercial' aspect. Still, perhaps they can be persuaded towards Wikipedia friendliness. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership Fee Cut
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: * Demographics. Who are we targeting with reduced memberships? Is there a definable group of people who can't pay the higher fee, and if so, is it not being served by the existing two-tier group? That would be key for me. I think a £5 rate is a good idea for one particular demographic we should be aiming at: students. The other demographic is educated persons who, one hopes, have used their education to secure a pretty good job and I feel they could easily meet, say, £20. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership Fee Cut
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Tom Holden tom.hol...@economics.ox.ac.uk wrote: Does anyone object to this? We appreciate that some of you will have recently paid membership fees at the full rate, but if we are to make such a cut it is inevitable that some people will have paid the full rate in the months before the cut, I paid at the £6 rate but even had I paid the full rate I don't think I'd be too upset. Are you sure price cutting is the answer? As I understood it WMUK was already a bit peeved if people paid the lower rate via PayPal because of PayPal taking a cut, so presumably the £5 rate will cause any Paypal sign-ups to be virtually counter-productive, yet it would be my argument that Paypal's probably the single biggest area ripe for growth in garnering funds. I probably wouldn't have got my arse in gear to sign up if there had been no Paypal or at least debit card option. So I'll ask the question; if you decide to make the rate £5 are you going to remove the Paypal payment option? ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Britain Loves Wikipedia - podcast and upcoming behind-the-scenes events
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: We also have lots of events coming up in the next week and a bit across the UK: - Saturday 13 February - Manchester Museum - Sunday 14 February - East Lothian museums... Feel I should mention at this opportunity that there's a Wikipedia London meet on Sunday 14th too. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/London/30 ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] The VA doesn't want your money
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: Yes, odd that. What do other museums do? Gordo Well, it rather depends. Some museums show bones of dinosaurs, stuffed walruses (walri?), a collection of moths, a few skulls. Others have artefacts from Egypt (usually a mock up of The Invisible Man), coins and incomplete sculptures (full sculptures cost too much). They have cabinets in common; lots of cabinets made of glass. Doors, ceilings... everything. You should go one day. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia- Telegraph
On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Steve Virgin st...@mediafocusuk.com wrote: Another thought Is the WMFoundation putting out a press release saying 'thanks' to the thousands of donors who have helped it to hit its global fund raising targets? Well, there's a massive banner on Wikipedia saying thanks. I would think that about covers it. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schoolchildren told to avoid Wikipedia - Telegraph
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: ■ you can find a pre-checked Wikipedia collection of 5,500 articles targeted around the national curriculum at http://schools-wikipedia.org. Wow! I've been volunteering on Wikipedia since 2004, during some periods very heavily, and I've never even heard of that! I can't believe it has escaped my attention! ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Telegraph runs story ...
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Brian McNeil brian.mcn...@wikinewsie.org wrote: I contacted Stephen Fry's agent but got no response. It may have been bad timing given the holidays, perhaps someone else could try and see if that can be arranged after the fact. Stephen Fry posted on his blog yesterday that he has a book due for completion in April and as such as disappearing from Twitter and keeping his appointments clear. So I fear he'll not be up for this until at least the middle of the year. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Telegraph runs story ...
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: If he hadn't just announced that he's going incommunicado until April to work on his autobiography, I would have suggested contacting him via Twitter. He won't do any recordings until he's finished the book, though. Damn, must read to the end of threads before posting. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia ordered by judge to break confidentiality of contributor
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: Agreed, but my point really is that anyone dealing with the media would be better prepared with some knowledge of other instances. And I don't instantly have the facts (some of what I know about this might be ArbCom-related and so privileged). Never mind the legal technicalities, I'm still snorting coffee over my desk at the bit that says: 'The open nature of the site has led to embarrassing instances in which pages have been edited to contain false information. Tony Blair’s entry was once edited to state that his middle name was “Whoop-de-do’’.' I bloody love Wikipedia, I do. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cbinet Forum
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:20 AM, paul reynolds paul.reyno...@mcgovern.co.nz wrote: And all I have in the last post is offensive bollocks. THis is way way disappointing My sincere apologies to everyone. I'm fairly new to Wikimedia UK and it's the case that other mailing lists I'm on tend not to be driven by trying to *achieve* stuff. I realise now that my recent posts haven't been helping much. I shall modify my behaviour. I let myself down with that last post; I am trying to achieve a Buddhist-like approach to my interactions with other people which means radiating loving-kindness even to those that are giving me the rise. I shouldn't have let someone saying my opinions mean diddly squat get the better of me, but it rankled and I responded in the way I'm used to doing on less utilitarian forum. I'll endeavour not to let it happen again. For the record, I'm totally behind everything Wikimedia UK is doing and hope to help out properly when a suitable task comes up (I'm already committed to typing a transcript of the AGM provided there's a decent audio file to work from). My apologies once again. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cbinet Forum
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com wrote: Peter Mandelson is a keynote speaker, which could be an important opportunity to put the case for public domain to a key decision maker. My question: what should I focus on at this conference and what should I aim to get out of it? Shoot Peter Mandelson in the head at point blank range wearing a Wikimedia UK bandana and shout INFORMATION WANTS TO BE FR! I expect that would get the odd headline here and there. A bit of publicity for us. If you're not keen on a lengthy prison sentence a decent kick in the balls should get us at least onto page four or five. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cbinet Forum
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: ... or perhaps not. Wikimedia UK is a peaceful organization, as is Wikimedia as a whole, and I'm sure that none of our members would ever seriously consider doing anything like this. The North Korean Chapter has nukes. We're way behind in the arms race. You have to ask yourself whether you really want the biggest Wikipedia to be one that requires you to install a non-standard character set. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cbinet Forum
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Brian McNeil brian.mcn...@wikinewsie.org wrote: Joking aside, I think that if I had a moment alone with Peter Mandelson and could curb my violent impulses for five minutes, I'd put it to him that cutting off someone's internet for illegal downloading is a punishment liable to be suffered as much by the innocent as the guilty. Take a bog standard family of four, married with 2 kids... maybe a 15 year old son downloads copyrighted media, gets caught, internet cut off. Now dad can't run his business, mum can't do her grocery shopping and the studious daughter who respects copyright can't get her homework done. [Note, I'm aware that I'm assigning rather stereotypical gender roles re work and shopping, I hope you will forgive me...] I understand that being cut off wouldn't happen until there's been more than one warning, which would give parents a chance to intervene and son to change his ways but you could still argue that the family as a whole has effectively been warned despite three of them being beyond reproach. I'd also like to tell Mandy that copyright terms of life plus 70 years is helping a select few whilst denying huge amounts of culture to the many and that owning something for 70 years after YOU'RE FRICKIN' DEAD is unlikely to be the spur to activity the government thinks it is. In addition, a next generation that inherits income from copyrighted works actually is disincentivised from getting a job if the income from the copyright is sufficient to support them. The government normally *loathes* people who don't go out to work, but apparently it's fine if your dad happens to have written The Da Vinci Code. Arstechnica has a good article relating to this today. Those well-entrenched and profiting from creative works have a 100+ year history of scaremongering and depriving the public domain what they agreed to give it in the first place. Are you referring to this one? http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/10/google-book-digitization-prompts-the-eu-to-rethink-copyright.ars If not please send a link as I'd be interested to see it. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cbinet Forum
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:08 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: Can you get him to meet some famous musicians? Childhood TV stars perhaps? No? Your opinion means approx diddly squat then. I was under no illusions that Peter Mandelson would drop to his knees and suck my cock for making hitherto unthought of ideas available to him. Since when did it become list policy that one should only post opinions that Peter Mandelson would subscribe to? I mean, I wouldn't put it past the Labour government to bring this in under a new communications act, but I think until they do you might be rather more circumspect with your diddles and, indeed, squats. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Do we have anyone in Brighton?
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Michael Peelem...@mikepeel.net wrote: What do you all think to this? Note that no board decision has been made on this yet - it will probably be discussed at the next board meeting. I've donated my concessionary rate of £6, so does that mean I can comment? :o) I'd be happy to see some funds allocated to people so they can attend relevant conferences. Not only will the attendee learn about useful topics but it will also provide an opportunity for a bit of networking and the person can spread the word about Wikimedia UK. For that reason I would be happiest if the person who attends these things is someone very outgoing and talkative. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] Time Management
Hello gentlemen, I'm assuming that most, if not all, of you are trying to fit in your Wikipedia work around jobs. I just happened to put lecture into YouTube's search box. It could have returned a lecture on *any* subject, of course, but it just so happens that one of the top hits was this lecture on time management: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTugjssqOT0 It's good because it's not dry: engaging speaker, several cameras so you're not just staring at a face all the time, tried and tested methods. I've noticed from looking at the wiki that you're embarking on a number of projects at the moment so this may help you to accomplish them. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Reminder: Next WMUK board meeting this evening (Tuesday 18 August), 8.30pm BST
The next board meeting is this evening; Wednesday 18 August 2009, 8.30-10.30pm BST, in the #wikimedia-uk-board channel on irc.freenode.net, with discussion in #wikimedia-uk. Everyone is more than welcome to attend. If you don't have an IRC client, then you can connect using http://webchat.freenode.net/ . The agenda is at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings/2009-08-18/ Agenda Hello, Is it OK if someone posts the log (ie, all the IRC dialogue) from the meeting or is that not advised? I'm new here so I don't know how things work. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Reminder: Next WMUK board meeting this evening (Tuesday 18 August), 8.30pm BST
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Michael Peelem...@mikepeel.net wrote: Most of it is already online: http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings/2009-08-18/IRC See: http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings for minutes/logs of previous meetings. Thank you! Gave me a lot of insight into what's going on, interesting stuff. Good luck with it all. I'll try to keep abreast of UK Chapter work and hope, one day, I'll spot something I can help you all with. I tend to be extremely reclusive and unwell but something may crop up I can do for you folks from the confines of my room. I'll remain firmly as an interested spectator for now til I get more of an idea of what's afoot. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Reminder: Next WMUK board meeting this evening (Tuesday 18 August), 8.30pm BST
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Thomas Daltonthomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: Gave me a lot of insight into what's going on, interesting stuff. Good luck with it all. I'll try to keep abreast of UK Chapter work and hope, one day, I'll spot something I can help you all with. I tend to be extremely reclusive and unwell but something may crop up I can do for you folks from the confines of my room. I'll remain firmly as an interested spectator for now til I get more of an idea of what's afoot. You can certainly offer opinions on things, that is always useful. OK, I shall try to do that... but only after a reasonable amount of reading and observing, just so that I don't fall flat on me bum with inane things or covering old ground. One thing, of substance, that did occur to me... do you think you might ever be able to use someone to transcribe audio files? If you wanted to record an event or meeting, I could type up a transcription. That's the kind of thing I can do at home provided I have the audio file. This isn't an offer to start transcribing your every interaction. And I guess, unless there's a deaf UK chapter member, there may not be much use for it, since one could just upload the audio these days. But it gives you a flavour of the sort of thing I'm both willing *and* able to do. If anyone has any other ideas of things that need help and can be accomplished from home, don't hesitate to ask, I can only say no. It's just that I noticed from reading your recent IRC meeting that a lot of what you currently seem to be doing is outreach: to schools, to the BBC, to galleries and museums. I couldn't quite tell how much of that you've been accomplishing with direct contact with people (v. difficult and often impossible for me) or whether you get most of it done via email (which would be fine). I sense that I may be coming across as someone with too much time on his hands. However, since I intend to read every single proposal at: http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Call_for_proposals and remain involved with the whole process as it evolves, that is very much not the case. I'm waffling. Summary version: I'm a UK Wikipedian. Just found the chapter. Might be able to help. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: UK Deletionists - a request
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Kwan Ting Chank...@ktchan.info wrote: Yes, I fear the BBC story is going to over simplify the issues in order to keep outsiders interested and to allow them to understand it. If they do find a passionate Deletionist then they will have somebody very much on the fringe of the community. Anyone want to sign up for the role then speak sweet reason? (I would but I think people would choke if I put myself forward as a deletionist.) Had they made a more general request I might have done, but I too can't really describe myself as a deletionist, even in a very loose sense. I can pretend. :D So... where are they getting this deletionism stuff from? It's as if someone brought out a press release: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/aug/12/wikipedia-deletionist-inclusionist ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
