Re: [Wikisource-l] [Wikitech-l] Wikisource bugs

2010-07-05 Thread Alex Brollo
2010/7/5 Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se I agree that having two structures (physical pages and chapters) is a challenge (I even wrote a paper about this, eleven years ago), but the introduction of the Page: namespace is not without problems. Very interesting, this is another piece of talk

Re: [Wikisource-l] Partnership with the French National Library

2010-07-16 Thread Alex Brollo
2010/7/15 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com May I mention http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Make_Wikisource_scale ? There are some references, numbers and so on. Nemo Mi accodo per informarvi che anche it.source è, in qualche modo, entrata in questo progetto: infatti

Re: [Wikisource-l] Dublin Core and TEI

2010-07-18 Thread Alex Brollo
2010/7/18 Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net Perhaps it's because these systems are designed by obsessives for obsessives. It's all very nice to have organizing metadata, and meticulous accuracy in our text, but in our search for perfection we lose sight of our objective of making the

Re: [Wikisource-l] Bangla (bn) Wikisource latest milestone

2010-08-01 Thread Alex Brollo
2010/8/1 Belayet Hossain bella...@gmail.com Hi, Bangla (bn) Wikisource (bn.wikisource.org) has been crossed 5,000 pages milestone. Belayet -- Belayet Hossain http://www.facebook.com/bellayet http://twitter.com/bellayet http://bellayet.wordpress.com (Bangla) Knowledge is universal

Re: [Wikisource-l] Back to the Scroll

2010-08-16 Thread Alex Brollo
2010/8/16 Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com Not at all, though

Re: [Wikisource-l] Back to the Scroll

2010-08-17 Thread Alex Brollo
2010/8/17 Billinghurst billinghu...@gmail.com Hi Magnus, The tool has choked on something for

Re: [Wikisource-l] Back to the Scroll

2010-08-17 Thread Alex Brollo
2010/8/17 Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com Now reloads transcluded pages from the correct language automatically, no textlang parameter neccessary! Magnus Great! :-) Alex ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikisource-l] new statistics

2010-10-04 Thread Alex Brollo
2010/10/4 ThomasV thoma...@gmx.de However, texts without scans are *harmful* to Wikisource. .. Wikisource will not be trustable until we stop accepting texts without scans. And no matter how virtuous some subdomains are, I think that the reputation of Wikisource as a whole strongly

[Wikisource-l] Highlighted targets for anchor links

2010-10-20 Thread Alex Brollo
We use in it.source (and the idea has been exported into some other projects) a template, who builds a user defined, invisible anchor and marks some text near the anchor; the marked text will be highlighed (with a coloured background) only when the anchor is the target of a link (coming from

[Wikisource-l] Two banal js question

2010-11-04 Thread Alex Brollo
I'm thinking about a js script to transform on the fly, when editing a page, the content of a template/of a page into a form (something like what happens when editing Index: pages), converting it back to normal text at upload; it's the main way to help any user to post good, decently standardized

[Wikisource-l] Div width: any drawback using percent?

2010-11-09 Thread Alex Brollo
Whan studying and testing code for lateral notes from suggestions into fr.source, I noted that the code is extremely simplified simply stating width of our div class=testi (used for the large majority of texts in Ns0) as* width:45%* instead of *width:33em*. All the code needed for a right lateral

[Wikisource-l] A troublesome page structure: suggestions needed

2010-11-18 Thread Alex Brollo
I'm happy to let you know that it.source community started a project to build one, or more, transcriptions with scans of Alighieri's Divina Commedia; presently it.source has only a naked version. An authoritative comments is that by Lana:

Re: [Wikisource-l] Proposal: two desirable ParserFunctions

2010-12-14 Thread Alex Brollo
2010/12/14 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com Alex Brollo, 14/12/2010 09:10: 1. I'd like to have a {{nbsp:string}} function, to replace all spaces with nbsp; html entities into string. It would very useful to format table cell content where spaces must be avoided, while saving

[Wikisource-l] About #lst hacking

2011-01-04 Thread Alex Brollo
Here a quote from a current thread into wikitech-l. Using #lst to implement variables into wikitext is really a terrible hack in your opinion too...? If it is, I feel myself really uncomfortable and depressed... :-( I'd like a clear statement about, and - if needed - clearly stated limits in the

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikicaptcha

2011-02-21 Thread Alex Brollo
2011/2/20 Seb35 seb35wikipe...@gmail.com A quick link I just received: http://www.digitalkoot.fi (in English also) It seems there are two Facebook games whose the aim is precisely to correct OCRs. Sébastien Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:16:15 +0100, Seb35 seb35wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikicaptcha

2011-02-21 Thread Alex Brollo
with great interest. Alex brollo ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikicaptcha

2011-02-21 Thread Alex Brollo
confused and intimidated by your software competence I hardly know what C++ and toolserver SVN is. :-). I don't use at all python imaging as PIL, I only use djvuLibre routines, using python to call them, to manage their input/output features and to manage plain text produced by them! Alex brollo

Re: [Wikisource-l] Writing reviews in Google Book Search

2011-04-21 Thread Alex Brollo
2011/4/21 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com Lars Aronsson, 21/04/2011 09:03: I found out that I can write reviews in Google Book Search. I didn't know this feature existed, so maybe it's new. Is this something we should do systematically? There are 24 volumes in the Swedish

[Wikisource-l] How to get values of mediawiki php configuration variables

2011-04-30 Thread Alex Brollo
Digging into it.source statistics, I'd need to read the corrent value of it.source $wgContentNamespaceshttp://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgContentNamespaces . Can I get it as a user or a sysop? If not, who have I to ask for? Alex brollo

Re: [Wikisource-l] Dynamic PageList installed for each Wikisource

2011-05-16 Thread Alex Brollo
Great news! :-) I encourage anyone to go deep into category intersection philosophy; it's very important to build an effective category tree, t.i. a fully populated one, breaking the rule categorize into the most detailed category only. Alex ___

[Wikisource-l] Persisting wrong thumbs of djvu pages in view mode

2011-11-10 Thread Alex Brollo
We fixed a djvu file adding some missing pages. Now, something strange appears. Take a look at http://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Pagina:Delle_strade_ferrate_e_della_loro_futura_influenza_in_Europa.djvu/206. Then enter in edit mode. The thumb showed in view mode comes from the old, wrong page; the

Re: [Wikisource-l] Persisting wrong thumbs of djvu pages in view mode

2011-11-10 Thread Alex Brollo
N 2011/11/10 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com I purged the file on Commons, this should remove all thumbnails; I reloaded the page in edit mode, it showed a black square, then it loaded a new image, is it correct? Nemo Yes. it is correct; but what is wrong is, that in view mode a

[Wikisource-l] Vertical vs lateral view toggle script: where's the code?

2012-05-25 Thread Alex Brollo
, as suggested by www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Proofread_Page, var proofreadpage_default_layout='horizontal'; into my vector.js to obtain a default vertical layout with no result. Some users love this layout, I'd like to help them! Where am I wrong? Alex brollo (it:ws

Re: [Wikisource-l] Roadmap Wikisource

2012-08-06 Thread Alex Brollo
I all, I'm new into the talk, I'm a it.sorce user. About the interesting Aubrey's onion model, I just discovered basic AJAX tricks, they are great do change the contents of a page using data stored into different pages and/or javascript variables (as wgUserName) and/or preferences or gadgets.

[Wikisource-l] AJAX sharing of Commons data/metadata

2012-08-29 Thread Alex Brollo
will be loaded; click on metadata botton from any page connected to a File: page ( namespaces Index, Page) and you'll see a result coming from such an AJAX call. Alex brollo, from it.wikisource ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikisource-l] Proofreading bug: Change not allowed

2012-11-10 Thread Alex Brollo
Thanks Thomas. I'll try to review any it.wikisource specific routine linked to upload event into nsPage. The bug - more or less - is some weeks old, and it seems linked to changes into proofread page extension. We already fixed some bugs springing out from changes in Index form names, but this bug

Re: [Wikisource-l] Proofreading bug: Change not allowed

2012-11-11 Thread Alex Brollo
2012/11/10 Thomas PT thoma...@hotmail.fr Hi! This bug is very strange. Its looks like it append only on italian Wikisource, so I think that one of your common.js script of gadget cause the bug. This bug is impradicable it might be caused by a change of execution order of two script, by

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource things: grant proposal, wikidata

2013-03-06 Thread Alex Brollo
, possibly general definition of book entity (and of written work entity). Alex brollo ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

Re: [Wikisource-l] RfC on Wikidata about books metadata

2013-05-17 Thread Alex Brollo
If I can add a comment, I suggest that Commons should be included into wikidata net as soon as possible, since it shares with wikidata its feature of being a unique container and book metadata are already shared between all wikisource projects and Commons for a central group of works (the

Re: [Wikisource-l] Lua modules for Wikisource

2013-05-23 Thread Alex Brollo
Is there any project to build a shared library of Lua routines for wikisource projects? I feel that Lua could give to source projects an excellent opportunity to align templates, formats and metadata structures. In the meantime, I'm browsing fr.source :-) Alex 2013/5/22 Klein,Max

Re: [Wikisource-l] Lua modules for Wikisource

2013-05-23 Thread Alex Brollo
I'm going to take my initial, painful steps into Lua; @Cristian, how many users are using/going to use Scribuntu into it.wikipedia? I see that Modulo: namespace already has been populated a little bit, I'll take a good look to scripts, even if wikipedia templates/scripts are always very complex

Re: [Wikisource-l] Lua modules for Wikisource

2013-05-24 Thread Alex Brollo
if something is free in both Sweden/Finland and USA, especially since we have to consider URAA. *Från:* Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com *Till:* discussion list for Wikisource, the free library wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Skickat:* torsdag, 23 maj 2013 17:24 *Ämne:* Re: [Wikisource-l

Re: [Wikisource-l] Proofreading based on statistics

2013-05-27 Thread Alex Brollo
As Alex says, no. And it's a pity. I really think it is paramount to have a central place (on Wikisurce.org?) to discuss tools, templates, and procedures, as an international community. It is a project long needed. Where should we start it? Aubrey Personally. I'll try to centralize

Re: [Wikisource-l] Refactoring of Proofread Page Extension

2013-05-30 Thread Alex Brollo
I share Aubrey's excitation. Please consider, if you can, some draft - but expandible and highy customable - spelling checker. :-) Normal spelling checkers help, but ancient texts need something different, since we search for fidelity to originals. Alex 2013/5/30 Andrea Zanni

[Wikisource-l] Playing with Lua, javascript and pagelist tag

2013-05-31 Thread Alex Brollo
someway interesting/inspiring in your opinion? Alex brollo ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

Re: [Wikisource-l] Centralized Lua modules for Wikisource (OPW mentor needed)

2013-05-31 Thread Alex Brollo
I agree fully Micru. Obviously, my dream is something much simpler and clear-cut: a unique wikisource for all languages, since an unique project for any textual media is needed IMHO just as a common project for any non-textual media is running: Commons; and a common project for data now exists:

Re: [Wikisource-l] Reunification of Wikisources

2013-06-02 Thread Alex Brollo
to achieve and work on. David, do you mean by Outreach Program for Women to refer to a specific wikisource project other than the general ones we have for the gendergap project? Jane 2013/5/31, Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com: I agree fully Micru. Obviously, my dream is something

Re: [Wikisource-l] Playing with Lua, javascript and pagelist tag

2013-06-02 Thread Alex Brollo
Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com Thank you Thomas. There are two reasons to load structural metadata into a Lua data page, to be imported with mw.loadData(): 1. often the tl|Pg - which reads data page by mw.loadData() and converts a book page number/mark into a running link to djvu page

Re: [Wikisource-l] Playing with Lua, javascript and pagelist tag

2013-06-02 Thread Alex Brollo
Thanks Lars: OK. :-) 2013/6/3 Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se On 06/03/2013 12:10 AM, Alex Brollo wrote: Take a look to this page http://it.wikisource.org/** wiki/Pagina:Manuale_di_**economia_politica_con_una_** introduzione_alla_scienza_**sociale.djvu/583http://it.wikisource.org/wiki

Re: [Wikisource-l] Playing with Lua, javascript and pagelist tag

2013-06-05 Thread Alex Brollo
Alex 2013/6/3 Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com Done Lars; I edited Modulo:Pg to keep Template:Pg simpler. Alex 2013/6/3 Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com Thanks Lars: OK. :-) 2013/6/3 Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se On 06/03/2013 12:10 AM, Alex Brollo wrote: Take a look

Re: [Wikisource-l] Playing with Lua, javascript and pagelist tag

2013-06-07 Thread Alex Brollo
Strategy 3 is extremely interesting, from the if you are repeating yourself, you are going wrong point of view. Nevertheless such an approach needs a well-designed and complete chapters tree as step one; the best would be that titles of sections/subsections could be wrote one only to avoid any

Re: [Wikisource-l] Playing with Lua, javascript and pagelist tag

2013-06-07 Thread Alex Brollo
) and manually (by javascript, or by a interactive bot). Alex 2013/6/7 Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com Strategy 3 is extremely interesting, from the if you are repeating yourself, you are going wrong point of view. Nevertheless such an approach needs a well-designed and complete chapters

Re: [Wikisource-l] About texts without supporting files and Index: pages

2013-06-10 Thread Alex Brollo
in Wikisource, the inclusion syntax already takes care of displaying data... Micru On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.comwrote: I don't see the need to change deeply Index/ns0 relationship, while I appreciate the idea promote coherence reducing redundance (many years

Re: [Wikisource-l] About texts without supporting files and Index: pages

2013-06-10 Thread Alex Brollo
scans or not. Micru On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.comwrote: Simply there is no need to store data twice or more, if they are dinamically imported from wikidata. Such data would be simply generated by a normal template. Something similar to Commons media

Re: [Wikisource-l] About texts without supporting files and Index: pages

2013-06-11 Thread Alex Brollo
You're right Aubrey nevertheless while promoving a user friendly interface the result is that data and wiki code is extremely difficult to use as a clean data base. Think only to wiki markup and the simple trick to mark bold and italic text with apostophes very user friendly, but something

Re: [Wikisource-l] About texts without supporting files and Index: pages

2013-06-12 Thread Alex Brollo
When we tried to convert into wiki code (a needed step to add links and to convert files into a wiki hypertext) a pdf file, that's a opaque, closed format, such a work turned off in a nightmare. If we simply load free pdf books as they are, I don't see any advantage, but feed wikisource

Re: [Wikisource-l] Use of public book scanners

2013-06-13 Thread Alex Brollo
Scan quality is excellent. Yes, is a very promising way - my suggestion is, to get always scans in TIFF (if possible; they are large but USB are large too ...), tro transform them into an image-only pdf (which is the simpler tool to do this?) and to load a copy into Internet Archive specifyng

Re: [Wikisource-l] ABBYY xml files: any of you is working about?

2013-06-16 Thread Alex Brollo
-ed Internet Archive book, and it is possible to get OCR with python routines: take a look to http://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Indice:Fisiologia_del_matrimonio.djvu, a test book where pages 17-30 come just from abbyy.xml file). Alex 2013/6/15 Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com I got it. o_O No need

Re: [Wikisource-l] ABBYY xml files: any of you is working about?

2013-06-17 Thread Alex Brollo
file is listed into any OCR-ed Internet Archive book, and it is possible to get OCR with python routines: take a look to http://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Indice:Fisiologia_del_matrimonio.djvu, a test book where pages 17-30 come just from abbyy.xml file). Alex 2013/6/15 Alex Brollo alex.bro

Re: [Wikisource-l] ABBYY xml files: any of you is working about?

2013-06-17 Thread Alex Brollo
Just to remarck that IA OCR is excellent - but is eavy limited by poor scan quality, since Google shares online bad scans (I presume, Google saves much better scans for internal use :-) ). This is why IMHO the most efficient procedure to have a good OCR for free is, simply to upload into IA an

Re: [Wikisource-l] Proposal to move the Oldwikisource projects to the Incubator

2013-06-24 Thread Alex Brollo
I posted there a very bold idea - to assign to oldwikisourcea new and inspiring nick name: Common wikisource. :-) Alex 2013/6/24 David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com Someone (not me) has proposed to move the language projects hosted in Oldwikisource to the Incubator

Re: [Wikisource-l] ProofreadPage changes

2013-06-26 Thread Alex Brollo
Too late, Thomas I found this blocking change by myself and fixed our it.source tools yesterday. There's another issue, our additional toolbar buttons wtite into header area of nsPage and refuse to write into wgTextbox1; this fuzzy behaviour is inspiring, since it suggests the need to review

[Wikisource-l] Exploring abbyy.xml: a layman trip

2013-07-01 Thread Alex Brollo
this stuff is extremely exciting, I'm going ahead with my bold tries, but the matter deserves IMHO the interest of best source geeks - I'm only playing with very limited skill with a rough layman programming style. Alex brollo (from it.wikisource) ___ Wikisource

Re: [Wikisource-l] Proofread extension extraction of OCR text in Djvu

2013-07-17 Thread Alex Brollo
at our best; no data, no data information contents. Alex 2013/7/17 Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se On 07/17/2013 12:57 PM, Alex Brollo wrote: FineReader OCR stores an incredibly detailed information in [...] abbyy.xml In the other end, Wikisource is a wiki that edits wiki text. Sure, you could

[Wikisource-l] Djvulibre routines into Labs

2013-11-28 Thread Alex Brollo
I (painfully) opened a bug into Bugzilla asking for djvulibre binaries installation into Labs. Any new about? Were they already installed and I asked unusefully? Are they - as I presume - a necessary tool for wikisource? Alex ___ Wikisource-l mailing

Re: [Wikisource-l] Djvulibre routines into Labs

2013-11-28 Thread Alex Brollo
...@gmail.com Alex Brollo, 28/11/2013 20:36: I'll try to test some routines to manage both image and text layers of our itsource djvu files. My question: have I to upload them from Commons, or there's the possibility to access to them/to a copy of them into some folder of Labs without any

Re: [Wikisource-l] Djvulibre routines into Labs

2013-11-29 Thread Alex Brollo
? Alex 2013/11/28 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com Alex Brollo, 28/11/2013 20:36: I'll try to test some routines to manage both image and text layers of our itsource djvu files. My question: have I to upload them from Commons, or there's the possibility to access to them/to a copy

Re: [Wikisource-l] Djvulibre routines into Labs

2013-11-29 Thread Alex Brollo
For these use cases I think that download the file is the best way to do it. It’s very quick because the connection between labs and the other Wikimedia clusters is very good. Thomas Le 29 nov. 2013 à 18:25, Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com a écrit : Thanks Thomas, but I'm looking for something

Re: [Wikisource-l] Issues with ProofreadPage

2013-12-06 Thread Alex Brollo
addition of the references tag, it’s a good idea. Feel free to hack the extension (you are really invited to do so :-)) or to fill a bug on bugzilla. Thomas Le 6 déc. 2013 à 14:28, Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com a écrit : Hi! No, there isn’t any doc about it. The Proofread Page doc is very messy

Re: [Wikisource-l] temporary patch for too high nsPage textarea

2013-12-07 Thread Alex Brollo
2013/12/7 Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com Hi Alex, Where do you use that? Regards, Yann 2013/12/7 Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com This is the simple script that I'm using to reduce to a comfortable size edit textarea in nsPage, it sniffs too layout toggling: function resizeBox

Re: [Wikisource-l] Issues with ProofreadPage

2013-12-14 Thread Alex Brollo
looking for a clean way to fix this problem. * The tab order in Page: pages editing interface is strange. A correction for it is ready and will be deployed soon. Thomas Le 6 déc. 2013 à 23:53, Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com a écrit : Thanks Thomas but I can't write php, just

Re: [Wikisource-l] Data namespace for Wikisource

2013-12-29 Thread Alex Brollo
Asaf. I respectfully disagree. Word lists (work-specific) are useful proofreading tools only when the can be edited often - both removing and adding words. Any added word must be verified. Distributed proofreaders implements a powerful spelling-check tool, but - given the different policy of that

Re: [Wikisource-l] [Bug 57813] Google Books Internet Archive Commons upload cycle

2014-03-04 Thread Alex Brollo
A suggestion: don't focus on Google only. Generalize the tool for other sources. There are plenty of libraries as Opal that share much better images to grab. The quality of Google shared scans is often very poor. (PS: I presume, I could grab the whole Alma Mater library content... but presently

Re: [Wikisource-l] Should old wikisource be actually moved to mul.ws?

2014-03-13 Thread Alex Brollo
#Multilanguage_worksI told about some time ago. Alex brollo 2014-03-13 22:37 GMT+01:00 Nicolas VIGNERON vigneron.nico...@gmail.com: 2014-03-13 22:26 GMT+01:00 Adam Morgan wikisorc...@gmail.com: I've been wondering: is there any benefit in actually getting oldwikisource moved to the mul language

[Wikisource-l] Internet Archive wikisource projects

2014-03-16 Thread Alex Brollo
While uploading into IA books from an interesting Italian library ( http://www.opal.unito.it) we are exploring anything useful to automatize upload and to collect into Internet Archive anu metadata useful to automatize IA-Commons-wikisource flow and IA metadata retrieval (both by python and by

Re: [Wikisource-l] Should old wikisource be actually moved to mul.ws?

2014-03-16 Thread Alex Brollo
of the Wikisource User Group to give feedback about the move oldwikisource-mul. That way wikidata could be deployed earlier without having to wait for an implementation that might take a looong time to happen. Micru On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 11:25 PM, Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.comwrote: I strongly

[Wikisource-l] Merging djvu.xml and abbyy.xml

2014-04-01 Thread Alex Brollo
the wheel :-) Alex brollo ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

Re: [Wikisource-l] RFC: IEG Grant proposal to develop tools for (Armenian) Wikisource

2014-04-20 Thread Alex Brollo
Happy to know that you like cropping tool and that you find it useful. I agree fully with keyword temporary: time is always laking, but we see two ways to develop it, to convert such temporary trick into definitive, separated files: 1. to use coordinates of image relative to image page to crop

[Wikisource-l] IA opallibriantichi new collection

2014-05-06 Thread Alex Brollo
Happy to let you know that there's a new IA collection from an Italian library (Opal Libri Antichi), and that uploads have been done by a wikisourcian, with any possible care about metadata, so that Tpt IA-Commons uploader can be easily used. Most items have been uploaded as high-resolution TIFF

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource core feature is broken for more than 50 hours

2014-05-06 Thread Alex Brollo
Just to mention a possible workaround for IA books: it's possible to upload on the fly by javascript a high-resolution jpg image of the page, while editing a wikisource page; I used this trick when djvu had a too low resolution for details. The only data needed to upload images (a fast uploading,

Re: [Wikisource-l] IA opallibriantichi new collection

2014-05-06 Thread Alex Brollo
libraries to upload their works in IA-wikisource? I would like to spread it in Catalan libraries soon. Carles El dia 06/05/2014 11.30, Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com va escriure: Happy to let you know that there's a new IA collection from an Italian library (Opal Libri Antichi

[Wikisource-l] Thanks for installing jq and pdftk into Tool Labs

2014-05-13 Thread Alex Brollo
: most of them are Italian books, but there are too Latin, French, English ancient books, sometimes with parallelel translation. Alex brollo ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource

Re: [Wikisource-l] OCR for Persian

2014-06-27 Thread Alex Brollo
Is there any Persian/Parsi text into Internet Archive? I'd like to take a look to its OCR - just to see if OCR engine attempts to interpret it (even if with no usable result). Alex 2014-06-27 9:14 GMT+02:00 Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com: Hi, I have Abby FR 11 Professional Edition, and

[Wikisource-l] Exploring #property for works

2014-07-18 Thread Alex Brollo
I'm trying to realize how {{#property:}} works, and I'm confused. From my tests, it only works inside pages linked with a wikidata element - and they show the wikidata property for that wikidata element. Only one page for project can be linked to to a wikidata element - so, a ns0 wikisource book

Re: [Wikisource-l] Exploring #property for works

2014-07-20 Thread Alex Brollo
Thanks to all. I'm going on with my test, into another thread into the same list: A proposal for work pages into wikisource. I found Module:Wikibase running into it.source too, and it's really interesting, I'm reviewing my tests. I apologyze about having opened two list threads more or less on

Re: [Wikisource-l] A proposal for work pages into wikisource

2014-07-20 Thread Alex Brollo
page data (using onlyinclude) and the new code (using onlyinclude too), I hope to solve such a conflict. Alex 2014-07-19 23:13 GMT+02:00 Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com: I admit that I didn't consider so far works by multiple authors; nevertheless a simple convention put work page as subpage

Re: [Wikisource-l] Add wiki data for old wikisoure

2014-08-07 Thread Alex Brollo
Time to solve this old issue, converting oldwikisource into a normal (I'd like to say: central), multilingual wikisource projects, isnt't it? Alex 2014-08-06 20:47 GMT+02:00 Jayanta Nath jayanta...@gmail.com: Thanks PYB for prompt reply. It is already known issue On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource meet-up on Saturday at Wikimania

2014-08-10 Thread Alex Brollo
I hope in a simple, cristal-clear, consistent and shared solution for author-works-editions wikidata elements. Possibly, a solution working by now (t.i. without any need to defer things waiting for elementId parameter into #property). All the best in your work! Alex 2014-08-09 19:52 GMT+02:00

Re: [Wikisource-l] Add wiki data for old wikisoure

2014-09-15 Thread Alex Brollo
language for translation issues of interface. Is this so terribly difficult? Is there really a hard techno issue, or the whole matter is mainly a matter of policy? The latter case would be very disturbing. Alex 2014-09-13 22:05 GMT+02:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com: Alex Brollo, 07/08

[Wikisource-l] Two requests for MediaViewer

2014-10-01 Thread Alex Brollo
multiple page djvu, to implement a tool to copy into clipboard with a click from displayed djvu page: (1) pure text layer, (2) lisp-like mapped text layer structure at line or word detail, (3) xml mapped text-layer (Alex brollo) * While supporting multiple page djvu, to implement a tool to crop

Re: [Wikisource-l] Two requests for MediaViewer

2014-10-01 Thread Alex Brollo
as a placeholder to a better one coming from full resolution images of the page (usually from original TIFF or derived JP2 collections into IA). Alex 2014-10-01 13:43 GMT+02:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com: Alex Brollo, 01/10/2014 08:32: * While supporting multiple page djvu, to implement

Re: [Wikisource-l] Two requests for MediaViewer

2014-10-01 Thread Alex Brollo
2014-10-01 9:18 GMT+02:00 Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com: Actually, I would rather have a tool that pulls apart djvu files as they are uploaded; keeping the text in WS and the pics in Commons This is very interesting since abbyy.xml files contain both a full detail (character by character)

Re: [Wikisource-l] mul: interwiki now exists

2014-10-02 Thread Alex Brollo
! Great! On Monday, September 29, 2014, Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com wrote: Hurrà! I'll test it as soon as possible. 2014-09-29 16:58 GMT+02:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com: This is wonderful, many thanks to TTO (User:This, that and the other). Nemo

[Wikisource-l] How to retrieve text layer from a djvu page by API

2014-10-24 Thread Alex Brollo
I'd like to get text layer of a djvu page, just as proofread extension does, by an API call or any exotic trick, in different settings from the usual trigger condition (the creation of a new page). Is this possible? I browsed API doc but I failed. Alex brollo

Re: [Wikisource-l] New release of unpaper

2014-10-29 Thread Alex Brollo
Could it be installed into ToolLabs? Is it already running there? I'd like to test it, but I presently can't work into a personal Linux environment. :-( Alex 2014-10-29 11:47 GMT+01:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com: Unpaper is the tool to crop and otherwise prepare scans to be

Re: [Wikisource-l] Phetools down

2015-04-01 Thread Alex Brollo
I just found that Phe's hOCR is down, wasting it.source tests about the extremely interesting data it returns I hope that it will be restored as soon as possible. Alex brollo 2015-03-31 16:44 GMT+02:00 Philippe Elie phil...@free.fr: On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 at 14:20 +0200, Andrea Zanni wrote

Re: [Wikisource-l] Better way to validate pages

2015-08-17 Thread Alex Brollo
IMHO, even if I'm testing the BGB as a personal script, I'm not satisfied by it, since - ironically - I don't agree fully with Andrea: I think that a good look to wiki code is mandatory, I want to see if transclusion codes are OK, I want see templates and their use and so on. Unexperienced but

Re: [Wikisource-l] Better way to validate pages

2015-08-18 Thread Alex Brollo
2015-08-17 19:12 GMT+02:00 Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com: *Wikisource is still too complicated*, and this is one of the reasons we don't have big communities. IMHO what is really complicated is, the last step of digitalization (OCR review + formatting), it's almost impossible to

Re: [Wikisource-l] Badges for Wikisource [[phabricator:T97014]]

2015-08-20 Thread Alex Brollo
Very interesting; so Index page/Index pages is/are properties of an edition item. One question: is it possible to show somehow the link to edition related item into wikisource Index page, i.e. into https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Index:The_Garden_of_Romance_-_1897.djvu ? Alex 2015-08-20 12:26

[Wikisource-l] Css and resourceLoader

2015-08-20 Thread Alex Brollo
When editing my common.css to test style of p tag - I need to activate: .tiInherit p { text-indent:inherit; } I see that my style is uploaded, but is overwritten by another general css. I suspect that this could come from ResourceLoader and related timing of css files loading. Am I true?

[Wikisource-l] An idea for a diacritic marks tool

2015-07-28 Thread Alex Brollo
Just to inspire true developers: I'm playing with the code of a new tool, that replaces/adds diacritical marks of the character preceding the cursor into edit textarea. The trick is to decompose the character with .normalize(NFD), to change what needs to be changed, and to recompose it with

Re: [Wikisource-l] more to edition(s) - edition or translation of

2015-07-28 Thread Alex Brollo
Splitting every book into two different items, *work* and *edition*, and using nsWork into wikisource projects to point the* work*, the issue is politely solved: any Work page into any wikisource could be interlinked by wikidata, since all point to the same abstract work wikidata item. On the

Re: [Wikisource-l] An idea for a diacritic marks tool

2015-07-28 Thread Alex Brollo
, it will be useful too dealing with difficult Latin and polyphonic Greek too. Alex 2015-07-28 10:10 GMT+02:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com: Alex Brollo, 28/07/2015 09:00: Much faster and comfortable than the usual, painful search for the needed exotic character into Special characters

Re: [Wikisource-l] Better way to validate pages

2015-08-11 Thread Alex Brollo
While suggesting how the Andrea's ideas coud be implemented (in the meantime, I wrote some js rows to upload quietly localStorage.rawCode, localStorage.pageUser, localStorage.pageLevel, an localStorage.validable too when reading any page in view mode), I was perfecly aware of what a similar tool

Re: [Wikisource-l] Better way to validate pages

2015-08-11 Thread Alex Brollo
Rough but running code of BGB is ready, and Andrea can test it to find bugs and/or drawbacks by now, if he likes. To lower the risk of a nonsense-click, BGB should pop out after some reasonable delay - something less than the time needed to carefully compare the page text and its image. To make

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource Conference, Wien, November 20-22

2015-08-09 Thread Alex Brollo
Just a fuzzy idea: it would be great IMHO that Distributed Proofreaders editing interface would be briefly shown and discussed. There's much to learn from it; at least, I personally learned much from it. If there's any Distributed Proofreaders expert in Wien, it would be great to invite him.

Re: [Wikisource-l] Better way to validate pages

2015-08-11 Thread Alex Brollo
a last check if the wikitext follows the way that words are on digitization or in the current way of writing. So, it isn't an improvement, only a trouble finding. [[User:555]] Em 11/08/2015 7:09 PM, Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com escreveu: Rough but running code of BGB is ready, and Andrea can

Re: [Wikisource-l] Better way to validate pages

2015-08-10 Thread Alex Brollo
First point is: is it a safe practice to validate a page without reviewing its raw code? A second point: is it a safe practice to validate a page without carefully reviewing its transclusion into ns0? Alex 2015-08-10 10:48 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com: As you all

Re: [Wikisource-l] Better way to validate pages

2015-08-10 Thread Alex Brollo
2015-08-10 14:47 GMT+01:00 Nicolas VIGNERON vigneron.nico...@gmail.com: 2015-08-10 15:37 GMT+02:00 Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com: First point is: is it a safe practice to validate a page without reviewing its raw code? Probably yes. Obviously, it's safer to check the raw code

Re: [Wikisource-l] OCR as a service?

2015-07-12 Thread Alex Brollo
I explored abbyy gx files, the full xml output from ABBYY ocr engine running at Internet Archive, and I've been astonished by the amount of data they contain - they are stored at XCA_Extended detaiI (as documented at http://www.abbyy-developers.com/en:tech:features:xml ). Something that

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