Re: [Wikitech-l] Support for multiple content languages in MW core

2013-04-23 Thread MZMcBride
Erik Moeller wrote: >I'd like to start a broader conversation about language support in MW >core [...] Mailing lists are good for conversation, but a lot of your e-mail was insightful notes that I want to make sure don't get lost. I hope you'll eventually put together an RFC (

Re: [Wikitech-l] 'Please - Help ' (GSOC)

2013-04-23 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-04-24 1:34 AM, wrote: > > > > > I am wishing to propose a project that needs Wikipedia and I discussed about it a little on IRC. > > I wish to know that Wikimedia will not consider any Wikipedia related project as idea’s page says or if somehow I am able to demonstrate that I will be able

[Wikitech-l] 'Please - Help ' (GSOC)

2013-04-23 Thread hungers.to.nurture
I am wishing to propose a project that needs Wikipedia and I discussed about it a little on IRC. I wish to know that Wikimedia will not consider any Wikipedia related project as idea’s page says or if somehow I am able to demonstrate that I will be able to complete it in summer they can co

Re: [Wikitech-l] Support for multiple content languages in MW core

2013-04-23 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-04-24 12:30 AM, "Erik Moeller" wrote: > [..] > In a nutshell, is it time to make MW aware of multiple content > languages in a single wiki? That would be nice. > > 1) There's no consistent method by which multiple language editions of > the same page are surfaced for selection by the use

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Google Summer of Code '13] Project Idea - "Inspire Me" Button

2013-04-23 Thread Quim Gil
On 04/23/2013 07:35 PM, Cheng Xing wrote: Because of the privacy policy, (1) and (2) are out of the game. The third one might get around this issue, though. 3) Facebook App From a privacy point of view a Facebook is a lot worse, since your data goes to a 3rd party instead of staying in Wikim

Re: [Wikitech-l] Special Page or Action

2013-04-23 Thread Daniel Friesen
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:02:56 -0700, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: Hey, Perhaps I have some misconceptions here, but was the Action class not "recently" (~1.18) introduced, and is it not required to use actions to specify behaviours for alternate content models? Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.

[Wikitech-l] Support for multiple content languages in MW core

2013-04-23 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi folks, I'd like to start a broader conversation about language support in MW core, and the potential need to re-think some pretty fundamental design decisions in MediaWiki if we want to move past the point of diminishing returns in some language-related improvements. In a nutshell, is it time

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Google Summer of Code '13] Project Idea - "Inspire Me" Button

2013-04-23 Thread Cheng Xing
Thanks for all the feedback to my proposal. I really appreciate it. If we want to provide personalized recommendations, user data does need to be connected for the best results, and yeah things could probably get a little iffy with the privacy policy. In terms of gathering data for the recommend

[Wikitech-l] RFC on possible interproject link interfaces

2013-04-23 Thread David Cuenca
Dear all, I have started a new RFC with some proposals for the interproject links and you can add more if you want. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Interproject_links_interface It has been a long standing issue and one of the most voted enhancements in Bugzilla https://bugzil

Re: [Wikitech-l] Ideating on GSoC project : Mobilize Wikidata

2013-04-23 Thread Pragun Bhutani
So I've been trying to implement the suggestions and I think I'm one step away from seeing results. I've got Wikibase and all its dependancies set up, I've got mobile frontend installed (but commented out for the moment). I can't figure out how to get some Wikidata style data on to my local instal

Re: [Wikitech-l] Special Page or Action

2013-04-23 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, Perhaps I have some misconceptions here, but was the Action class not "recently" (~1.18) introduced, and is it not required to use actions to specify behaviours for alternate content models? Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. -- ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] Special Page or Action

2013-04-23 Thread Daniel Friesen
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:07:20 -0700, Matthew Flaschen wrote: On 04/23/2013 09:58 AM, Daniel Friesen wrote: Mind pointing out what is messy about special pages? If you've got an actual issue with them some of us would probably like to actually fix it. Cause actions were in fact the older in

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Testing and monitoring deployed code

2013-04-23 Thread Ori Livneh
On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Greg Grossmeier wrote: > Hello all, > > This message is for those of you who do deployments to the WMF cluster. > > > On the [[How to deploy code]] wikitech page, there is a section on > Testing your live code: > https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/How_to_d

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC / OPW application period is open!

2013-04-23 Thread Quim Gil
On 04/23/2013 01:04 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: On 04/23/2013 02:36 PM, Quim Gil wrote: Thanks to Lydia we have now a link to a collection of real & good GSoC proposals: https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1Iqk8MTix2CN1pAgqhZqhefKTwiA7P73zQH9N46lvyB0 Good point! And thanks to the prompt a

[Wikitech-l] Testing and monitoring deployed code

2013-04-23 Thread Greg Grossmeier
Hello all, This message is for those of you who do deployments to the WMF cluster. On the [[How to deploy code]] wikitech page, there is a section on Testing your live code: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/How_to_deploy_code#Test_your_code_live That's a pretty basic overview of it and it co

Re: [Wikitech-l] Special Page or Action

2013-04-23 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/23/2013 09:58 AM, Daniel Friesen wrote: > Mind pointing out what is messy about special pages? If you've got an > actual issue with them some of us would probably like to actually fix it. > Cause actions were in fact the older interface. Till one or two people > attempted to bring them up to

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC / OPW application period is open!

2013-04-23 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/23/2013 02:36 PM, Quim Gil wrote: > Thanks to Lydia we have now a link to a collection of real & good GSoC > proposals: > > https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1Iqk8MTix2CN1pAgqhZqhefKTwiA7P73zQH9N46lvyB0 It's not critical. But of course it would also be nice to have some MediaWiki exa

Re: [Wikitech-l] "My GSOC Project Proposal"

2013-04-23 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 04/23/2013 03:23 PM, Vishal Thukral wrote: > For now my user page is under development. Please bear with this format You didn't include a link to your user page. Matt Flaschen ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [WikimediaMobile] Rethinking MobileFormatter / Skins

2013-04-23 Thread Daniel Friesen
It's an interesting idea. Though it won't be trivial. But we could start to express the parser output of pages as high level components nested in each other. Like a document with a TOC nested in it, as well as high-level headers (or maybe sections), emeded image frames, etc... where things li

[Wikitech-l] "My GSOC Project Proposal"

2013-04-23 Thread Vishal Thukral
For now my user page is under development. Please bear with this format ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [WikimediaMobile] Rethinking MobileFormatter / Skins

2013-04-23 Thread Jon Robson
Daniel Great to hear I'm not alone in my thoughts. Things like the edit section link shouldn't have to be hacked in at the parser level - if the parser returned the components of a page it would be trivial for the skin to add these itself. The fact you are resorting to hacks to do things which sho

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [WikimediaMobile] Rethinking MobileFormatter / Skins

2013-04-23 Thread Chad
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Jon Robson wrote: > Thanks for pointing out the __TOC__ magic word. Out of interest - for > what reason do we support this? It seems like a bad thing to allow > inconsistencies between page content on the same wiki. If a table of > contents is in the lead section f

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [WikimediaMobile] Rethinking MobileFormatter / Skins

2013-04-23 Thread Jon Robson
Thanks for pointing out the __TOC__ magic word. Out of interest - for what reason do we support this? It seems like a bad thing to allow inconsistencies between page content on the same wiki. If a table of contents is in the lead section for one article but in the third section for another article

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [WikimediaMobile] Rethinking MobileFormatter / Skins

2013-04-23 Thread Daniel Friesen
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 11:06:13 -0700, Yuvi Panda wrote: For wider distribution! -- Forwarded message -- From: Jon Robson Date: Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:13 AM Subject: [WikimediaMobile] Rethinking MobileFormatter / Skins To: mobile-l I've been playing around with skins a lot re

[Wikitech-l] Nischay Nahata joins Wikimedia as Features Contractor

2013-04-23 Thread Terry Chay
Hello everyone, I apologize. I didn’t realize that it helps to announce long-term contractors also. ;-) It’s with great pleasure that I’m announcing that Nischay Nahata has joined the Wikimedia Foundation as a Features Engineering Contractor (only six months ago). He expects to get his B.Tech f

Re: [Wikitech-l] Data-URI and WebP for thumbnails, a cute experiment

2013-04-23 Thread Mathias Schindler
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > Not sure what's a good solution for this, other than a really good > download/sharing UI on images... Maybe the most obvious solution would be for Mozilla and Microsoft and the usual bunch of image editors to start supporting WebP. There are

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC / OPW application period is open!

2013-04-23 Thread Quim Gil
Thank you Teresa for your reply, spot on. On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Teresa Cho wrote: > Mine is pretty sparse and not the best example of a good proposal. It was good enough to get you acepted in the previous OPW round. Thanks to Lydia we have now a link to a collection of real & good GS

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [WikimediaMobile] Rethinking MobileFormatter / Skins

2013-04-23 Thread Derric Atzrott
>I was experimenting with using the onOutputPageParserOutput hook [1] > (running based on the current skin) and think it might be a better >approach to run the transformations on smaller chunks of data. For >instance the table of contents is known to be in the lead section so >it seems like it woul

Re: [Wikitech-l] Project Idea for GSoC 2013 - Bayesian Spam Filter

2013-04-23 Thread Quim Gil
On 04/23/2013 05:42 AM, anubhav agarwal wrote: Hey Quim, I have drafted my proposal on my User page. I have already opened a bug in mediawiki for the Extension request in bugzilla. Here is the link

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [WikimediaMobile] Rethinking MobileFormatter / Skins

2013-04-23 Thread Yuvi Panda
For wider distribution! -- Forwarded message -- From: Jon Robson Date: Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:13 AM Subject: [WikimediaMobile] Rethinking MobileFormatter / Skins To: mobile-l I've been playing around with skins a lot recently. The MobileFrontend extension has had to do various

Re: [Wikitech-l] Data-URI and WebP for thumbnails, a cute experiment

2013-04-23 Thread Magnus Manske
I vaguely recall the first time I came across one of these newfangled "PNG" images that no viewer would display. What's wrong with GIF??? That will never stand! (yes, I know plenty is wrong with GIF, especially in those days...) Pixelmator on Mac already opens webp fine, didn't test saving though.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Data-URI and WebP for thumbnails, a cute experiment

2013-04-23 Thread Brion Vibber
Apparently Facebook has been experimenting with sending WebP images in place of JPEG to some users... but there are some usability problems reported in the tech press < http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/04/chicken-meets-egg-with-facebook-chrome-webp-support/ > Primary problem seem

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bug 189: "Add a music wikimodule" resolved/fixed

2013-04-23 Thread David Cuenca
This is really amazing! Specially for Wikisource :-) Is multi-page score transclusion with "Extension:Proofread page" able to generate a global midi/score file or each page has to be treated as an independent entity? Micru On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:11 AM, Antoine Musso wrote: > Le 23/04/13 04:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update to jQuery 1.9 and jQuery UI 1.9

2013-04-23 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2012-12-06 at 20:11 +0100, Jan Luca wrote: > is there already a schedule to update jQuery and jQuery UI to 1.9 or are > there problems at moment? I want to use the new tooltip widget of jQuery UI > 1.9 [1]. FYI, the corresponding bug reports are: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Special Page or Action

2013-04-23 Thread Daniel Friesen
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 06:07:15 -0700, Daniel Kinzler wrote: On 23.04.2013 14:46, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: Hey, At the risk of starting an emacs vs vim like discussion, I'd like to ask if I ought to be using a SpecialPage or an Action in my use case. I want to have an extra tab for a specific

Re: [Wikitech-l] Special Page or Action

2013-04-23 Thread Daniel Friesen
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 05:46:31 -0700, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: Hey, At the risk of starting an emacs vs vim like discussion, I'd like to ask if I ought to be using a SpecialPage or an Action in my use case. So is one approach preferred? Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't pan

Re: [Wikitech-l] Special Page or Action

2013-04-23 Thread Tyler Romeo
Here's my take on it: From the design perspective, SpecialPages are superior. It's one of the most mature controlling units in MediaWiki, primarily because current special pages do so many complex things there has developed a need for abstraction that handles many use cases. Actions, on the other

Re: [Wikitech-l] Special Page or Action

2013-04-23 Thread Chad
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: > Hey, > > At the risk of starting an emacs vs vim like discussion, I'd like to ask if > I ought to be using a SpecialPage or an Action in my use case. I want to > have an extra tab for a specific type of article that shows some additional > i

Re: [Wikitech-l] Special Page or Action

2013-04-23 Thread Daniel Kinzler
On 23.04.2013 14:46, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: > Hey, > > At the risk of starting an emacs vs vim like discussion, I'd like to ask if > I ought to be using a SpecialPage or an Action in my use case. I want to > have an extra tab for a specific type of article that shows some additional > information a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Special Page or Action

2013-04-23 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, > Can it not in some way be included in &action=info ? In this case: no. That is however sidestepping my question :) Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. -- ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimed

Re: [Wikitech-l] Special Page or Action

2013-04-23 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Can it not in some way be included in &action=info ? DJ On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: > Hey, > > At the risk of starting an emacs vs vim like discussion, I'd like to ask if > I ought to be using a SpecialPage or an Action in my use case. I want to > have an extra tab fo

[Wikitech-l] Special Page or Action

2013-04-23 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, At the risk of starting an emacs vs vim like discussion, I'd like to ask if I ought to be using a SpecialPage or an Action in my use case. I want to have an extra tab for a specific type of article that shows some additional information about this article. This view is per article. It does no

Re: [Wikitech-l] Project Idea for GSoC 2013 - Bayesian Spam Filter

2013-04-23 Thread anubhav agarwal
Hey Quim, I have drafted my proposal on my User page. I have already opened a bug in mediawiki for the Extension request in bugzilla. Here is the link. I will be glad to have your feedback. Ca

Re: [Wikitech-l] Interested in contributing to jQuery.IME

2013-04-23 Thread Siebrand Mazeland (WMF)
Thanks Kausal. Looking forward to your pull request! -- Siebrand Mazeland M: +31 6 50 69 1239 Skype: siebrand Op 23 apr. 2013 om 14:13 heeft KAUSHAL SINGH het volgende geschreven: > Hello, > > I have found an issue with mediawiki jquery.IME and have reported it on > Github. https://github.co

Re: [Wikitech-l] Interested in contributing to jQuery.IME

2013-04-23 Thread KAUSHAL SINGH
Hello, I have found an issue with mediawiki jquery.IME and have reported it on Github. https://github.com/wikimedia/jquery.ime/issues/163 I am already working on it and will create a patch with my solution soon. On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:58 PM, KAUSHAL SINGH wrote: > Hello, > > I am Kaushal, a

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] Announcement: Erik Bernhardson joins Wikimedia as Features Engineer

2013-04-23 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
> Before joining us, Erik was a web developer and operational > jack-of-all-trades at Cite Media/Maverick Media which is a custom Symfony2 > CRM working on “what the internet is for”[1]. There he worked on MySQL, > Redis, Graylog2, ElasticSearch, Nginx w/PHP-FPM integration, phpUnderControl > a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Weekly Report

2013-04-23 Thread Željko Filipin
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 5:00 AM, reporter wrote: > MediaWiki Bugzilla Report for April 15, 2013 - April 22, 2013 Fresh charts: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bugzilla_Weekly_Report Željko ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org http

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bug 189: "Add a music wikimodule" resolved/fixed

2013-04-23 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 23/04/13 04:27, MZMcBride a écrit : > "Add a music wikimodule" > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189 > > Congrats to all involved in getting bug 189 resolved! :-) I think that deserves an official press release by the WMF :-D Congratulations to everyone involved! -- Antoine