Re: [Wikitech-l] Google Code-in 2016 just started and we need your help!

2016-12-03 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
What happens if a mentor doesn't respond with 36 hrs? The weekend is going to be the most problematic stage, especially this first weekend. Does this "36 hrs" also apply to reviewing in Gerrit and comments in Phabricator? I am seeing students not submit their GCI task for approval once they have

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on WMF account compromises

2016-11-21 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 10:42 PM, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote: > Just for the record, I'm not having such problems, so it might be in some > way specific to you. I've heard someone else recently complaining about > getting logged in often, I don't think this is related to 2FA. >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on WMF account compromises

2016-11-21 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
Ya, this is why I haven't done it. Also, I should be able to set it up such that TFA is not necessary until my account attempts to do an admin action. On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Florence Devouard wrote: > Hello > > I had the super bad idea of implementing the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Engaging student devs with another outreach event like GSoC, GCI

2016-11-07 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
This is probably a good thread to introduce a program we have been running in Indonesia called Besut Kode, funded by Ford Foundation. We noticed there were not many GCI/GSOC participants from Indonesia, and also not many Wikimedia devs from Indonesia, and are trying to fix that. We are using a

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] CI is having issues, hang with us

2016-08-10 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 10:05 AM, John Mark Vandenberg <jay...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 7:30 AM, Greg Grossmeier <g...@wikimedia.org> wrote: >> Things are back. >> >> Apologies. > > I'm noticing long queues for pywikibot; ~19 mins befor

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] CI is having issues, hang with us

2016-08-10 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 7:30 AM, Greg Grossmeier wrote: > Things are back. > > Apologies. I'm noticing long queues for pywikibot; ~19 mins before the jobs started. The Zuul graphs seem to imply the delays are being felt elsewhere also.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Number of differences

2016-08-03 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 4:44 AM, Strainu wrote: > Hi, > > Short answer: The API does not seem to directly provide such info, but > you could use action=compare, then search for class=\"diff-lineno\" > and divide by 2 (it appears once on each side of the diff). > > Do note that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Loosing the history of our projects to bitrot. Was: Acquiring list of templates including external links

2016-08-01 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 8:34 AM, Gergo Tisza wrote: > On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > >> Do you believe that declaring "the implementation is the spec" is a >> sustainable way of encouraging contribution to our projects? > > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Loosing the history of our projects to bitrot. Was: Acquiring list of templates including external links

2016-08-01 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
There is a slow moving discussion about this at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Requests_for_comment/Markdown The bigger risk is that the rest of the world settles on using CommonMark Markdown once it is properly specified. That will mean in the short term that MediaWiki will need to support

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit 2.12.2 test instance - PLEASE TEST

2016-07-13 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Chad wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 7:39 PM Danny B. wrote: >> I assume that the slowness is just because it is testing environment and >> production will be faster, but just in case, I'm mentioning that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2016-05

2016-05-31 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
Hi Alex, That increase could be a result of GSOC projects starting, which must create boat loads of tasks in the first month to plot the path of their project. On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 7:24 AM, Alex Monk wrote: > If you look back through all the previous monthly statistics

Re: [Wikitech-l] Should we switch the default category collation to uca-default?

2016-05-27 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
Yes, of course, & a meta discussion will likely unearth many reasons to opt-out ;) Does uca (or extension) do the right thing for West Frisian (fy) wrt y & i ? Or, ... it would be helpful to put the list of 94 wiki somewhere easy to consume. On 28 May 2016 06:37, "Ryan Kaldari"

Re: [Wikitech-l] Best practice for WIP patches to help code review office hours

2016-05-18 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:41 PM, Chad wrote: > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:35 AM Daniel Kinzler > wrote: > >> Am 13.05.2016 um 18:23 schrieb Greg Grossmeier: >> > >> >> Gerrit also has drafts... >> > >> > Drafts are only visible to the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal to invest in Phabricator Calendar

2016-05-16 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:42 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: >> That said, I think we should be careful with our assumptions about how >> much influence we can buy with the money we have. > > Sure. Let's not make assumptions at all then: what makes someone think that >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement

2016-05-16 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:42 AM, Tim Landscheidt wrote: > Lukas Mezger wrote: > >> With the help of Juliet Barbara and Gregory Varnum, we now have detailed >> public figures regarding the energy use and energy sources of the Wikimedia >> servers:

Re: [Wikitech-l] PyWikibot reviewers needed!

2016-05-12 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
No! Quality rapidly decreases when you force unpaid people to rush reviewing so the queue looks better. Last time people rushed pywikibot reviewers, lots of junk was committed, creating lots of bugs, and the tree has been red for months now, making it more difficult to merge old large changesets.

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] How to click custom html option button via api?

2016-04-27 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
Pywikibot has a class ProofreadPage which allows modification of level via simple attributes and methods. https://github.com/wikimedia/pywikibot-core/blob/master/pywikibot/proofreadpage.py#L67 If you dont want to use Pywikibot, its code can be helpful and it can be copied using very

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] The future of Related Pages feature

2016-04-04 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
This feature appears to be an automated edition of the "See also" section on English Wikipedia. Having both Related Articles and See also feels like a usability issue. Has there been any discussions on the wikis about this overlap? On 24 Mar 2016 05:18, "Moushira Elamrawy"

Re: [Wikitech-l] Small Amendment to User-Agent Policy

2016-03-21 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 12:44 AM, Marcel Ruiz Forns wrote: > ... > I think adding the word bot to the user-agent of bot-like programs is a > widely adopted convention. Actually, the word bot is already (for a long > time now) being parsed and used to tag requests as

Re: [Wikitech-l] Small Amendment to User-Agent Policy

2016-03-21 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Marcel Ruiz Forns wrote: > Hi wikitech-l, > > After the discussion in analytics-l [1][2] and Phabricator [3], the > Analytics team added a small amendment [4] to Wikimedia's user-agent policy > [5] with the intention of improving the quality

Re: [Wikitech-l] Interest in contributing to Wikimedia Foundation

2016-03-04 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Amate Yolande wrote: > Hello, > > My name is Yolande Amate from the University of Buea Cameroon. I am > proficient in C, C++, PHP and Python. I am new to open-source and I would > like to participate in the Google Summer of Code 2016 /

Re: [Wikitech-l] bluejeans

2016-03-02 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Erik Bernhardson <ebernhard...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:00 PM, John Mark Vandenberg <jay...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> If BNJ isnt actually open source, here is an open source solution that >> we could use and help

Re: [Wikitech-l] bluejeans

2016-03-01 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > >> If BNJ isnt actually open source, here is an open source solution that >> we could use and help fund as required (e.g. buying their commercial >> offerings so that WMF Engineering/Ops doesnt need to support

Re: [Wikitech-l] bluejeans

2016-03-01 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 4:21 AM, Brion Vibber wrote: > BlueJeans is "open source" though I can't offhand find their source code by > googling for "bluejeans source". ;) I've dug around a bit, and also cant find anything to suggest that they are open sourcing any parts of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Google Code-in 2015 is over. Congratulations everybody!

2016-02-02 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On 29 Jan 2016 4:49 am, "Andre Klapper" wrote: > > Google Code-in 2015 has come to an end. > > Thanks to our students for resolving 461 Wikimedia tasks. Thanks to our > 35 mentors for being available, also on weekends & holidays. Thanks to > everybody on IRC for your

Re: [Wikitech-l] Google Code-in 2015 is over. Congratulations everybody!

2016-02-02 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) <bjor...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 4:52 PM, John Mark Vandenberg <jay...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> The same developer created the MediaWiki API endpoint mergehistory. Im not >> su

Re: [Wikitech-l] Could someone relatively new to Python please QA the Accuracy review login framework?

2016-01-18 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 4:22 PM, James Salsman wrote: >> Have you looked at using OAuth for authentication? > > Yes; the modules in use support OAuth but we made a conscious decision to > support anonymity. Lack of anonymity can interfere with the operation of the > reviewer

Re: [Wikitech-l] Could someone relatively new to Python please QA the Accuracy review login framework?

2016-01-12 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 9:25 AM, James Salsman wrote: >.. > please test her user authentication and login framework? Have you looked at using OAuth for authentication? There are numerous OAuth providers, and using them removes the largest possible problem from the app. >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Image editor prototype

2015-12-08 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Luis Villa wrote: > Very cool! > > Totally personal thing: a task I've done several times on-wiki is rotate an > image by <90 degrees just to make it level (e.g., 1 >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Yandex?

2015-11-10 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 5:47 AM, Legoktm wrote: > On 07/02/2015 12:55 PM, Legoktm wrote: >> On 07/01/2015 06:50 PM, Ricordisamoa wrote: >>> Il 02/07/2015 03:28, Legoktm ha scritto: I noticed: "Yandex coming up soon!" under ContentTranslation. Are there more

Re: [Wikitech-l] AWS usage

2015-10-07 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:54 AM, Petr Bena wrote: > Hi, > > Why do you even care? Is this question directed to foundation only or > community developers as well? "Used by wikimedia" is very broad term. Pywikibot uses Travis-CI, and I was looking at their S3 artefacts

[Wikitech-l] AWS usage

2015-10-06 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
Is AWS (Amazon Web Services) being used by Wikimedia directly; US Foundation, or by other affiliates? While trawling around for AWS related tasks, I saw on T74501 that Sage Ross' team was using AWS late last year, perhaps only temporarily due to the bug. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74501

Re: [Wikitech-l] Add a Gerrit label "WIP" to mark changes as work in progress

2015-09-11 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
+1 This will be very useful for the Gerrit cleanup day! On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 16:23 Florian Schmidt wrote: > > Hi, > > that sounds like really good idea. +1 for all your mentioned reasons! :) > > Another use case is the time, a project's reviewers needs to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata API breaking changes

2015-09-09 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
The merged changeset included changes which were not advertised, causing pywikibot to break. See T110559 The wbgetentities JSON 'entities' is now an array/list of entities instead of a mapping/dictionary of 'Qd' => entity. On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 12:33 AM, Addshore

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upcoming SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi changes

2015-07-14 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 1:30 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hello, Over the course of the next two days, a major update to the SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi extension will be rolled out to Wikimedia wikis

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upcoming SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi changes

2015-07-12 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hello, Over the course of the next two days, a major update to the SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi extension will be rolled out to Wikimedia wikis. The change swaps geshi, the unmaintained PHP library which performs the lexical

Re: [Wikitech-l] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

2015-07-06 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:43 AM, Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: As there are seven days left, does someone have time / capacity to provide an updated list of bots that likely haven't seen updates yet? Also, in [1], Sitic came up with a query of de.wp *gadgets* affected:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upcoming SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi changes

2015-06-22 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hello, Over the course of the next two days, a major update to the SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi extension will be rolled out to Wikimedia wikis. The change swaps geshi, the unmaintained PHP library which performs the lexical

Re: [Wikitech-l] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

2015-06-19 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 7:56 AM, S Page sp...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Brian Gerstle bgers...@wikimedia.org wrote: I guess it comes down to is this: if we're going to continue supporting old behavior, they should be accessible via the same old requests. *This

Re: [Wikitech-l] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

2015-06-18 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Yuri Astrakhan yastrak...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 7:44 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: The API currently emits a warning if a query continuation mode isnt selected. I guess on July 1 the API could emit an error

Re: [Wikitech-l] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

2015-06-17 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Marco mai...@live.de wrote: On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 18:29:08 +0700, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:42 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: ... I've compiled a list of bots that have hit the deprecation warning more than

Re: [Wikitech-l] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

2015-06-08 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Ilya Korniyko intra...@gmail.com wrote: It would be nice if MediaWiki API _AND_ pywikipedia bot do not deprecate at once. Now it looks as API: we are deprecating what we promised to deprecated long ago - ok pywikipedia compat: did not handle the deprecation

Re: [Wikitech-l] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

2015-06-03 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:42 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: ... I've compiled a list of bots that have hit the deprecation warning more than 1 times over the course of the week May 23–29. If you are responsible for any of these bots, please fix them. If you know who

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simplifying the WMF deployment cadence

2015-05-30 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:39 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: [T96942 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96942] was reported by pywikibot devs almost as soon as we detected that the test wikis

[Wikitech-l] Testing pywikibot on beta wikis (Was: Simplifying the WMF deployment cadence)

2015-05-29 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 2:09 AM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: Shouldnt such [pywikibot] tests be run against beta wiki not testwiki? Primarily this hasnt happened because pywikibot doesnt have a family file for the beta wiki, but that is our issue, so I've done a simple test run on beta

Re: [Wikitech-l] Testing pywikibot on beta wikis (Was: Simplifying the WMF deployment cadence)

2015-05-29 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 3:14 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: .. - paramInfo failure that breaks pywikibot's dynamic api detection; pywikibot batch loads the paraminfo for all modules, for example issuing the following API as part of the initialisation, and it is a 503 Service

Re: [Wikitech-l] Testing pywikibot on beta wikis (Was: Simplifying the WMF deployment cadence)

2015-05-29 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 3:14 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 2:09 AM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: Shouldnt such [pywikibot] tests be run against beta wiki not testwiki? Primarily this hasnt happened because pywikibot doesnt have a family file

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simplifying the WMF deployment cadence

2015-05-28 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 2:07 AM, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org wrote: quote name=John Mark Vandenberg date=2015-05-29 time=01:39:52 +0700 It was reported by pywikibot devs almost as soon as we detected that the test wikis were failing in our travis-ci tests. It was 12 hours before

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simplifying the WMF deployment cadence

2015-05-28 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:17 AM, Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/27/2015 01:19 PM, Greg Grossmeier wrote: Hi all, New cadence: Tuesday: New branch cut, deployed to test wikis Wednesday: deployed to non-wikipedias Thursday: deployed to Wikipedias This means that if

Re: [Wikitech-l] Regarding gsoc 2015

2015-03-21 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 7:26 PM, Arindam Padhy b113...@iiit-bh.ac.in wrote: why is that its always necessary that you have to solve task in order to get the project.you should also look at the student's idea,before rejecting him.j Completing microtasks is a way for applicants to demonstrate

Re: [Wikitech-l] Regarding gsoc 2015

2015-03-21 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Arindam Padhy b113...@iiit-bh.ac.in wrote: but on 11th march the mentor said in his comment that he has already found some strong students for this project.that means from the beginning only you guys have fixed who will work for you,that is before the student

Re: [Wikitech-l] Global user pages deployed to all wikis

2015-02-20 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 9:22 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Nice one! Will anyone be porting all the Babel templates? That's a seriously useful thing that should go there, and they aren't on Meta yet. Eh? I think Babel templates are from last decade. See

Re: [Wikitech-l] Boil the ocean, be silly, throw the baby out with bathwater, demolish silos, have fun

2015-02-13 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote: Can I just say that I hate it? It does not even give access to the talk page! Looks like here is the best place to discuss design decisions: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Beta_Features/Minerva -- John

[Wikitech-l] Google thinks the Anonymous entry on enwp is hacked

2015-02-13 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
Google is showing their This site may be hacked. note when showing the enwp article about Anonymous, with a link to https://support.google.com/websearch?p=ws_hacked https://www.google.com/search?q=Anonymous+group Found via http://thestack.com/anonymous-this-site-may-be-hacked-wikipedia-120215

Re: [Wikitech-l] Google thinks the Anonymous entry on enwp is hacked

2015-02-13 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote: When I logged into the webmaster tools and followed their instructions to resolve the issue it said that en.wikipedia.org had no security issues. I guess whatever happened has been fixed and we just need to wait for it to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Google thinks the Anonymous entry on enwp is hacked

2015-02-13 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
Thanks James. Do you recall what the previous articles were? -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] Congratulations to MediaWiki Farmers User Group for being approved as a Wikimedia User Group

2015-01-18 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
*sigh* I was hoping the farmers had united but good luck to the virtual farmers of ~85% men On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Gregory Varnum gregory.var...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, Please join the Affiliations Committee in congratulating the MediaWiki Farmers User Group on their

Re: [Wikitech-l] Our CAPTCHA is very unfriendly

2014-12-04 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Comet styles cometsty...@gmail.com wrote: Until they fix captcha or allow Global Filters to become truly global, there will always be a risk of spambots. For someone who deals with these on a regular basis and has been doing it for years, making the Captcha

Re: [Wikitech-l] Our CAPTCHA is very unfriendly

2014-12-04 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:08 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Chad wrote: Well that was a fun experiment for an hour. Turns out captchas do actually stop a non-zero amount of spam on non-test wikis. Mediawiki.org logs tell the story pretty clearly. This has been rolled back. :-(

Re: [Wikitech-l] changing edit summaries

2014-11-13 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Yusuke Matsubara w...@whym.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: I tried looking for it in Bugzilla; I expected to find a two-digit bug for it, but I couldn't find any at all. Of course it's possible

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Release workflow recommendation] A public releases JSON file.

2014-09-18 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Daniel Friesen dan...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote: The WikiData item doesn't contain enough information, it only lists the stable version number. All the situations I've come up with require the kind of detailed information we have on

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is simplicity is the key to success of Echo and Watchlist?

2014-09-03 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 1:25 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: When I hop around mediawiki.org currently, I'm being incessantly poked in the eye by a very bright 61 because I had the audacity to watch a talk page. Clearly this is broken. Of course I also have the string new messages

Re: [Wikitech-l] broken travis-ci builds of mediawiki

2014-08-21 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:23 AM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: There are build errors in the mediawiki builds on travis-ci, which have been happening for four months. https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-core/builds Are there any other travis-ci builds running

Re: [Wikitech-l] broken travis-ci builds of mediawiki

2014-08-21 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 9:58 PM, aude aude.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 4:06 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:23 AM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: There are build errors in the mediawiki builds on travis-ci, which

[Wikitech-l] broken travis-ci builds of mediawiki

2014-08-18 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
There are build errors in the mediawiki builds on travis-ci, which have been happening for four months. https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-core/builds Is anyone using that to help with development. I doubt it, given they are broken. Could they be disabled, as those jobs are causing

Re: [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-11 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:18 AM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: Now, having observed that not only user Eloquence (aka Erik Moeller) himself engaged in the enforcement of superprotect right on de.wp [1] but soon after a workaround was published a change was deployed [2, 3] as counter

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-11 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 3:49 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 2:01 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Before this, there was no expectation that a page could be protected such that sysops could not alter the content

Re: [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-10 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Michał Łazowik mlazo...@me.com wrote: Wiadomość napisana przez Nicolas Vervelle nverve...@gmail.com w dniu 10 sie 2014, o godz. 15:45: I hope it's not an other step from WMF to prevent the application of community decisions when they not agree with it. I fear

Re: [Wikitech-l] Not logged in page

2014-07-15 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: This seems like a bit of an edge case. If you are worried about this then I would say you want to check the keep me logged in box... For some of us power users, it will be an edge case we hit annoyingly regularly. I've

Re: [Wikitech-l] User agent policy for bots

2014-07-13 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com wrote: On Jul 11, 2014 9:45 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 07/11/2014 09:34 AM, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: Could ops confirm they have the username of each logged in edit at their finger tips (i.e

Re: [Wikitech-l] User agent policy for bots

2014-07-11 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: Le 11/07/2014 01:09, Amir Ladsgroup a écrit : Hello, As discussions in pywikipedia-l people are not sure whether is necessary to add username of bot operator in user agent or not. In user agent policy

Re: [Wikitech-l] git-review 1.24 broken?

2014-07-10 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 2:36 AM, Adrian Lang adrian.l...@wikimedia.de wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Moriel Schottlender mor...@gmail.com wrote: It seems that the native package doesn't work correctly. Or, if that's no longer true, we should update the docs. 1.23-2 works great for

Re: [Wikitech-l] git-review 1.24 broken?

2014-07-09 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
Could it be an OSX specific problem? git review 1.24 works for me on two linux distros, with different setuptools installed fedora-core-19 using distribute 0.6.49 ubuntu-14.04 using setuptools 3.3 On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Željko Filipin zfili...@wikimedia.org wrote: A few days ago, I

Re: [Wikitech-l] git-review 1.24 broken?

2014-07-09 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 5:50 AM, Moriel Schottlender mor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 and I get the same issues. Worse, I seem to also get problems uninstalling and reinstalling git-review when I try to follow the directions in the first email. I think that part might be local

Re: [Wikitech-l] git-review 1.24 broken?

2014-07-09 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
Thanks Moriel. Again I cant reproduce that! :-( And I cant see any reference to pip 1.0 being a dependency in the git-review code, however it may be implicit (a feature of pip used) or in pbr somewhere. Could you provide a complete backtrace for that exception? On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 10:11

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to Keep Track of Template Values Across a Wikipedia?

2014-06-16 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Jun 14, 2014 4:54 AM, Maximilian Klein isa...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I'm working on the Open-Access Signalling Project[1], which aims to signal and badge when a reference in Wikipedia is Open Access source. I'm writing the bot at the moment to do this, and I'm encountering a question

Re: [Wikitech-l] new terms of use/paid contributions - do they apply to mediawiki

2014-06-16 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Jun 17, 2014 3:25 AM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, So from what I understand, there's now been an amendment to WMF's terms of use to require disclosure of paid contributions [1]. Its a little unclear how this applies to MediaWiki as a project, but a literal reading of the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Replacing LiquidThreads for Flow

2014-06-15 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Jun 11, 2014 2:19 AM, Brian Wolff ... Id also like a way to turn a flow page back to wikitext for talk pages etc in case somebody doesnt like it (i havent been following closely enough to know if that is already possible) Another option would be for existing LQT pages to 'be asked' if they

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bot flags and human-made edits

2014-05-19 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On May 20, 2014 8:39 AM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 19 May 2014 19:36, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgr...@gmail.com wrote: As a bot operator I think API parameter about flagging bot or not is necessary Sure, but as I'm not a bot operator, can you explain why and what you use this

Re: [Wikitech-l] Free fonts and Windows users

2014-04-10 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 6:26 AM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: .. By lower quality I mean both subjectively, but also objectively. For example, today I was reading https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Hamilton_wins_%27incredible%27_Bahrain_race,_F1%27s_900th_Grand_Prix (enwikinews is one of the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Free fonts and Windows users

2014-04-09 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Apr 9, 2014 2:02 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: It's pretty clear that the objectives of this project are not successfully met at this point, and in fact have caused major problems on non-Latin

Re: [Wikitech-l] Free fonts and Windows users

2014-04-09 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 April 2014 09:26, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: I havent looked at how much testing was done, or if there was some staging of the rollout, but it is clear that it wasnt careful enough. To be fair

Re: [Wikitech-l] python bot/script with javascript as frontend

2014-03-04 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
English Wikisource had a bot which would perform OCR on request by a user when the user pressed a button in the Wikisource website interface. Is that like what you are trying to achieve? I think it used categories as a work queue. JavaScript placed the page in a category, and the bot picked up