Re: [Wikitech-l] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

2015-06-04 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
and applies as a boolean to just the continuation format rather than something like queryversion. But we'd still have the issue where changing the default version (or making the version parameter non-optional) is necessary here, otherwise the default version would be stuck at 1. -- Brad Jorsch

Re: [Wikitech-l] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

2015-06-03 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
. In this case, however, the advantages of changing the default for new API users seems to outweigh the disadvantages of a well-announced breaking change with a simple parameter to request backwards-compatible output. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation

Re: [Wikitech-l] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

2015-06-03 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
to make that breaking change. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

2015-06-03 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
by bots being fixed? That's not impossible, but I wouldn't count on it. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

2015-06-02 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
Lowercase_sigmabot_III MahdiBot MalarzBOT MastiBot Merge_bot NaggoBot NasirkhanBot NirvanaBot Obaid-bot PatruBOT PBot Phe-bot Rezabot RMCD_bot Shuaib-bot SineBot SteinsplitterBot SvickBOT TaxonBot Theo's_Little_Bot W2Bot WLE-SpainBot Xqbot YaCBot ZedlikBot ZkBot -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simplifying the WMF deployment cadence

2015-05-30 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On May 30, 2015 4:07 AM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: So if a shorter deploy process is implemented, we need to find ways to get bug reports to you sooner, I think work/life balance is going to continue to prevent me personally from getting things any sooner ;) and ensure you

Re: [Wikitech-l] Testing pywikibot on beta wikis (Was: Simplifying the WMF deployment cadence)

2015-05-29 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
very likely go ahead and backport it to 1.26wmf8 as soon as it's merged and I confirm Beta is fixed. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simplifying the WMF deployment cadence

2015-05-29 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-api-announce/2014-July/62.html [4]: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/160798/ [5]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API/Architecture_work/Planning#HTMLizing_action.3Dhelp -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation

Re: [Wikitech-l] First impression with Differential

2015-05-21 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
a bogus failure that needs another +2 to tell it to try again. For that matter, I've had opportunity for using Submit and merge when Jenkins is being broken or excessively slow during a SWAT deployment. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation

Re: [Wikitech-l] jQuery UI, opensearch API, categories and autocompletion -- oh my!

2015-05-06 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
the Category: part and pretend it doesn't exist and never did? Hit api.php?action=querymeta=siteinfosiprop=namespaces to get the localized name of the Category namespace. Or you should be safe just removing everything up to the first colon. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia

Re: [Wikitech-l] API result formatting changes (being announced a little late), for developers

2015-05-04 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
that we can fix, or something that's still using a * key, or some other bit of output formatting that could be cleaned up. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

[Wikitech-l] API result formatting changes (being announced a little late), for developers

2015-05-01 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] API result formatting changes (being announced a little late), for developers

2015-05-01 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 4:41 PM, S Page sp...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: The general theme is that the ApiResult arrays now have more metadata, which is used to apply a backwards-compatible transformation

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reminder: Breaking change to API continuation planned for 1.26

2015-04-20 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
framework you're using to query the API) to log the warnings it receives in some manner you'd find useful. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reminder: Breaking change to API continuation planned for 1.26

2015-04-20 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: I use mw.api so I suspect that to handle deprecation notices - does it not? If not why not? Because no one coded it for that framework yet? -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation

[Wikitech-l] API log entry parameter output is handled by LogFormatter (coming in 1.26wmf3)

2015-04-17 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
! -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Reminder: Breaking change to API continuation planned for 1.26

2015-04-17 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
date is decided, but I don't promise more than a week's notice. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] User manipulation of change tags, coming soon to a wiki near you

2015-04-15 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
?action=helpmodules=managetags|tag|query+tags for help, and post questions to mediawiki-api https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Lua module for simple molar mass calculations

2015-04-01 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
them directly. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension:Gather launching on beta for English WP mobile users.

2015-03-26 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
). -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-19 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Danny Horn dh...@wikimedia.org wrote: Brad: unfortunately, it's really hard to tell very much from a conversation with messages like 3: Post C: reply to Post A. You could do that with the old model, the new model or the perfect magic Nobel-Prize-winning

Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-19 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 11:08 AM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: Let's all be happy then that we are replacing an unloved broken talk extension with Flow on a wiki where we have real conversations then ...? :) actually dogfooding will make it much easier for us to communicate errors

Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-18 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Danny Horn dh...@wikimedia.org wrote: So we've figured out a new reply/indentation model that separates those two functions. We've been testing it out on the flow-tests

Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-18 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Danny Horn dh...@wikimedia.org wrote: So we've figured out a new reply/indentation model that separates those two functions. We've been testing it out on the flow-tests server [1], and we're going to release it to Mediawiki soon. I ran some tests at

Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-17 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: Indentation is a crappy workaround for when your communication system does not support a sane threading model - it isn't a threading model or a substitute for one. Err, what's the threading model in Flow's UI? Or

Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-17 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 March 2015 at 10:49, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 March 2015 at 09:45, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-17 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Nick Wilson (Quiddity) nwil...@wikimedia.org wrote: We’d like to hear which features you use on the current LQT boards, and that you’re concerned about losing in the Flow conversion. Working watchlist functionality, see

Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-17 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote: Software cannot understand which post a message replies to. It can, and more easily than with raw wikitext, as long as the correct reply button is used, i.e. if people actually click reply instead of using the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-17 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote: * An arbitrary indentation level *must* be allowed, with optional facilitations for adding an {{outdent}}-like marker Why?

Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-17 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 March 2015 at 09:45, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote: Software cannot understand which post a message replies

Re: [Wikitech-l] New feature: tool edit

2015-03-06 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
Note this reply is written with my enwiki community member hat on, and in no way represents anything official On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 5:19 AM, Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote: It is complex and bureaucratic on the English Wikipedia, i.e., less than 1/890 of the projects. I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Template Table Extension

2015-03-05 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
that braceSubstitution() also handles everything else that uses double-brace syntax (e.g. variables, parser fuctions, and special page transclusion), and that the template finally transcluded is not necessarily $piece['title'] (e.g. in case of redirects). -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia

Re: [Wikitech-l] Template Table Extension

2015-03-04 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
to $this-getTemplateDom(). -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC meeting this week

2015-03-04 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
description. Actual use of those keys would be up to the caller. For errors and such in responses, AuthManager would again be returning i18n message keys and parameter lists. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] [RfC] AuthManager

2015-02-27 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
be used later when authz is done (e.g. in the UserGetRights hook). -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Scrum of Scrums notes 2015-02-11

2015-02-11 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
references/ at the bottom of the page if there are undisplayed refs. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] New feature: tool edit

2015-02-11 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
). TTO is working on that, with me as the main reviewer. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/188543/ -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] jenkings merging

2015-02-09 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tool on labs for replacing old username signatures

2015-02-06 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Keegan Peterzell kpeterz...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm not a developer my self, so thoughts on feasibility and implementation are welcome. I think such a tool would be highly useful and I'm slightly surprised it hasn't been made yet. It wouldn't be hard to have

Re: [Wikitech-l] Permanently deleting change tags available by default

2015-02-05 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
;) -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 4:41 PM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 5 February 2015 at 13:13, Jackmcbarn jackmcb...@gmail.com wrote: Gerrit change 181958[1] was recently merged, which allows (among other things

Re: [Wikitech-l] Permanently deleting change tags available by default

2015-02-05 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 6:43 PM, This, that and the other at.li...@live.com.au wrote: The exception to this is OAuth, which should really be fixed not to allow its tags to be deleted. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/187624/ -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation

Re: [Wikitech-l] Permanently deleting change tags available by default

2015-02-05 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
additional content (if any) was on the page besides the redirect. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Permanently deleting change tags available by default

2015-02-05 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
, the tag can't be deleted by this mechanism unless it's explicitly allowed by the ChangeTagCanDelete hook. So excessive concern over those being deleted seems like it's just that, excessive. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation

Re: [Wikitech-l] Investigating building an apps content service using RESTBase and Node.js

2015-02-04 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
(or the ParserEnvironment I recently heard Tim propose) a list of transformations, to allow for transformations at some of the points where we have parser hooks. Although that would probably cause problems for Parsoid. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation

Re: [Wikitech-l] Urlencoding strip markers

2015-02-03 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
*this* bug, it would still allow the attack if there is ever sensitive data on some transcludable special page that isn't embedded in HTML tag attributes. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving our code review efficiency

2015-01-29 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
by their author and so on, which led to discussions of whether we should go around abandoning patches that have been -1ed for a long time, etc. Without proper consideration of those sorts of issues, the statistics don't seem particularly useful. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation

Re: [Wikitech-l] Urlencoding strip markers

2015-01-29 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
the marker. 5. Just output an error, to make it obvious something stupid is going on. There's no good option, so which of 2, 3, 4, and 5 is least bad? -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Thoughts: stateless services with open servers?

2015-01-28 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
manually in ~/bin or the like. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Thoughts: stateless services with open servers?

2015-01-28 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Odd API errors spotted this morning (around 08:25 UTC to 10:20 UTC)

2015-01-27 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
' ); $titleObj = Title::newFromText( $title ); assert( $titleObj-getNamespace() === NS_CATEGORY ); I don't see anything around that timeframe that would have made that happen. Does anyone have any ideas? -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation

Re: [Wikitech-l] The future of shared hosting

2015-01-16 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
, rather than rewriting things from scratch in an entirely different language. and maybe reduced feature set. That becomes a hazard when other stuff starts to depend on the non-reduced feature set. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation

Re: [Wikitech-l] The future of shared hosting

2015-01-16 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: What you're forgetting is that WMF abandoned MediaWiki as an Open Source project quite a while ago (at least 2 years ago). {{citation needed}} ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] The future of shared hosting

2015-01-16 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: What you're forgetting is that WMF abandoned MediaWiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] Changing contentmodel of pages

2015-01-12 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 7:25 PM, Erik Bernhardson ebernhard...@wikimedia.org wrote: The Co-op team will ask the Bot Approval Group on enwiki to grant their bot this right. *enwiki BAG hat on* FYI, they'll be asked to advertise the request on enwiki [[WP:VPR]], and probably [[WP:AN]] wouldn't

Re: [Wikitech-l] Status of the Purge extension

2014-12-28 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Dec 28, 2014 2:07 AM, Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote: New users often need to purge the server cache, {{Citation needed}} on often. A simple link is way more helpful than visit the history page and replace 'history' with 'purge', etc. Also, a server-side extension has much

[Wikitech-l] ApiFeatureUsage extension in testing

2014-12-23 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
/Special:ApiFeatureUsage [2]: http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/w/api.php?action=helpmodules=query+featureusage -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles

2014-12-17 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 9:10 PM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 16 December 2014 at 04:45, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Marc Ordinas i Llopis marc...@wikimedia.org wrote: Due to how MediaWiki's messages system

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles

2014-12-16 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
reference styles on the same page. That sounds like bug T33216, which was fixed a while ago. Does this actually occur now? -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] Visibility of action in API for deleted log entries

2014-12-09 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Visibility of action in API for deleted log entries

2014-12-09 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
of revisions, files, and so on. Or are you referring to how the RevDel checkboxes were labeled Hide action and target? That's being fixed. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Visibility of action in API for deleted log entries

2014-12-09 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
was still reporting that the subtype (here named 'action') is delete (versus restore, revision, etc). -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator migration part II: Replacing gitblit with Diffusion

2014-12-01 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
be the same length instead of some being one character and some being two. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator migration part II: Replacing gitblit with Diffusion

2014-12-01 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
repositories that start with a B, it's more confusing. +1 -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Scribunto will no longer reveal the HTML behind strip markers in 1.25wmf11

2014-12-01 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
/User:Jackmcbarn/unstrip. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.25/Roadmap for the deployment schedule. [1]: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T63268 [2]: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/171290/ -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator migration part II: Replacing gitblit with Diffusion

2014-11-26 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
callsigns, it seems to me we'd be better served by just treating them as random base-26 integers with no inherent meaning. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] Maintenance script for generation of $wgAutoloadLocalClasses

2014-11-14 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
-- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] keeping apihelp messages in the end of JSON i18n files

2014-11-08 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
every other message in the file. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Default language of the API changed/broken

2014-11-04 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
The disadvantage of using the user language is that it reduces cacheability: all responses have to be marked anon-public-user-private instead of public where public would otherwise be allowed. True, there are a number of other reasons that an API response may not be cached, but adding one more to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Default language of the API changed/broken

2014-11-04 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
there is that errors and warnings will be output in English (and in the old format for warnings) unless specifically requested otherwise. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] JSON and Scribunto

2014-11-04 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
to understand. So, let's discuss it: do the advantages outweigh the potential disadvantages? Are there additional advantages or disadvantages not yet mentioned? -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Expected behavior of templates when a parameter appears multiple time

2014-10-21 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 4:01 AM, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: What is the expected value of {{{key1}}} when parsing the template? From the docs I've read, I would expect it to be value3. That does seem to be the case. If so, does value1 appear anywhere? No. -- Brad Jorsch

[Wikitech-l] BREAKING CHANGE: API help and pretty-printed output formatting changes

2014-10-13 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
to be minimal, as non-human consumption is likely to be limited to ApiSandbox. [1]: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/160798 [2]: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/161093 [2]: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/160819 -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

2014-10-01 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 1, 2014 10:55 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: This is something that has to be discussed *on the projects themselves*, not on mailing lists that have (comparatively) very low participation by active

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

2014-10-01 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
rather defeat the purpose of using Tor, if you had to sign in from a non-Tor IP every month or so. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wrapping signatures with a span for discoverability

2014-09-30 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
an official signature (maybe for someone else) in the middle of their post. OTOH, if you somehow strip the official signature markers then what happens when it's an archive bot copying posts to an archive? Or someone moving a misplaced talk page post to the correct location? -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dynamically generating files from Scribunto

2014-09-17 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
gets changed. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=querylist=allimages|allpagesaiprefix=Module:apnamespace=6apprefix=Module : [2]: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=querylist=allimages|allpagesaiprefix=Module:apnamespace=6apprefix=Module : -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software

Re: [Wikitech-l] Maintainers (was Re: Who maintains ConfirmEdit core part?)

2014-09-17 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
extensions are maintained by people from WMDE,[1] and I imagine the Zero extensions could link to [2]. [1]: I couldn't find a team page listing the developers, but I expect there is one somewhere. [2]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Zero -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer

Re: [Wikitech-l] Sudden growth of unreviewed changesets in Gerrit

2014-09-12 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers/Maintainers to see if anyone is listed for relevant components. It's also usually helpful to look through the git log for the code you're changing, pick out some similar changesets, and see who authored and reviewed them. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia

Re: [Wikitech-l] Parsoid

2014-08-28 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
to just download the source package and rebuild it for precise. Or you could try using the equivs package to fake out the package manager. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Parsoid

2014-08-28 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
12). -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] HHVM status update

2014-08-19 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
is this feature to you would be useful). It's essential when dealing with a page that is hitting the Lua time limit to identify the critical areas of the code. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: mwui.wmflabs.org reactivated, showing upcoming MW UI styles ($wgUseMediaWikiUIEverywhere = true; )

2014-08-19 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
://mwui.wmflabs.org/wiki/Lorem_ipsum, among many other possibilities). -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-18 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Aditya Chaturvedi aditya.iiita...@gmail.com wrote: However, to run the system in production first, we need assistance on how to make these ratings visible on the pages of extension. Has it already been asked anywhere *whether* to make these ratings available

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-18 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@nichework.com wrote: Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com writes: On 8/18/14, 8:47 AM, Chad wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org Has it already been asked anywhere *whether* to make

Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP 5.3 EOL and MediaWiki 1.24

2014-08-14 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
. This. At the least, any change to the supported version of PHP isn't going to happen until the WMF cluster gets updated, and the decision must be informed by what version the WMF cluster gets updated to (which may be HHVM rather than Zend). -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-14 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
Summing up, it seems like action API and api.php are the two contenders. api.php is least likely to be confused with anything (only its own entry point file). But as a name it's somewhat awkward. action API might be confused with the Action class and its subclasses, although that doesn't seem

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-11 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
isn't a break in the protection feature itself, for example. Nor is hacking people's accounts. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-07 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:58 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: but if you are a mobile developer using the REST API every day, you need some other term to specify api.php. Is api.php unsuitable for some reason? That itself is awkward to say, and to disambiguate between the actual

[Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-06 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
short name for it that isn't something awful like the api.php API. I'm horrible at naming. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman

Re: [Wikitech-l] User agent policy for bots

2014-07-14 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Scribunto, Lua 5.2, and forward compatibility for Module code

2014-07-14 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
and function getNotNilValue(...) Note the 'arg' parameter is already deprecated in 5.1, so people should already be avoiding it. See http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#7.1 -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Bug Bounty Program

2014-06-26 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving event announcements (was Re: Tech Talk: How, What, Why of WikiFont)

2014-06-12 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
not logged in to Google stuff. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Nesting of mediawiki/core/vendor inside mediawiki/core

2014-06-12 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
throughout? There are some who want to go further and have core just call various myriad services running as separate processes to do all the work. Like a Parsoid for every piece. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making a plain MW core git clone not be installable

2014-06-11 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
MediaWiki installation off of a single host. - might not be used as-is on Wikimedia cluster -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making a plain MW core git clone not be installable

2014-06-11 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: curl -sS https://getcomposer.org/installer | php ... That's just awful. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Preventing MW from adding a page to watchlist

2014-06-10 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
suggested in comment 8 on that bug. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Preventing MW from adding a page to watchlist

2014-06-10 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
for a preference should be what newbies will find most useful. Experienced users should already know about preferences and how to change them. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] LiquidThreads - how do we kill it?

2014-06-10 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: * User talk pages. Do we need multithread tree discussions in our user talk pages? No, we don't. {{citation needed}} I suspect this is just like the point below. * Regular talk pages. In most cases a section gets 2-5

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Pkg-mediawiki-devel] [MediaWiki-announce] MediaWiki 1.23.0 released

2014-06-09 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/extensions/ApiSandbox.git or https://git.wikimedia.org/git/mediawiki/extensions/ApiSandbox.git, I tested both. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

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