Re: [Wikitech-l] Seemingly proprietary Javascript

2013-03-05 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-03-05 9:17 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: Le 05/03/13 14:28, MZMcBride a écrit : A number of former and current contributors (notably Lee Daniel Crocker) have released their creative works and inventions into the public domain:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Linking from Wikipedia articles to local library resources

2013-03-05 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-03-05 9:20 PM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: See http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/glam/2013-March/000361.html http://everybodyslibraries.com/2013/03/04/from-wikipedia-to-our-libraries/ : how do we get people from Wikipedia articles to the related offerings of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Problem with CentralAuth in MobileFrontend

2013-03-05 Thread Brian Wolff
From what I *understand* you don't have an account on the local wiki until you visit there. Could perhaps whatever api methods used by the app not be triggering this auto-account-creation process properly like a normal web interface edit would? -bawolff On 2013-03-05 11:17 PM, Jon Robson

Re: [Wikitech-l] Some Sort of Notice for Breaking Changes

2013-03-09 Thread Brian Wolff
On 3/8/13, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any way that extension developers can get some sort of notice for breaking changes, e.g., https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50138? Luckily my extension's JobQueue implementation hasn't been merged yet, but if it had I would have no idea

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mediawiki's access points and mw-config

2013-03-09 Thread Brian Wolff
On 3/8/13, Waldir Pimenta wal...@email.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Daniel Friesen dan...@nadir-seen-fire.comwrote: index.php, api.php, etc... provide entrypoints into the configured wiki. mw-config/ installs and upgrades the wiki. With much of itself disconnected from core

Re: [Wikitech-l] Github/Gerrit mirroring

2013-03-09 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-03-08 2:20 PM, Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 17:07:18 +0100, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: I guess the whole idea of using GitHub is for public relation and to attract new people. Then, if a developer is not willing to learn Gerrit, its

Re: [Wikitech-l] Github/Gerrit mirroring

2013-03-09 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-03-09 5:04 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: So, why am I not trying to learn Gerrit or try to submit patches? Because it's not worth my time. The interface is so far outside of what I'm used to, and it's just so touchy. By comparison, GitHub has a solid, no frills, Mac app

Re: [Wikitech-l] Live recent changes feed

2013-03-10 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-03-10 1:20 AM, Victor Vasiliev vasi...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everybody, For long time it was acknowledged that our current way of serving the recent changes feed to users (IRC with formatting using funny control codes) is one of the

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC 2013 guidelines??

2013-03-10 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-03-10 2:55 PM, Nischay Nahata nischay...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Tejas Nikumbh tejasniku...@gmail.com wrote: I created a bugzilla account but the process of going through the code and fixing bugs seems cryptic. Any resources you can provide which can aid me

Re: [Wikitech-l] Live recent changes feed

2013-03-10 Thread Brian Wolff
If Whatever the JSON encoder we use does means that one day, the daemon starts sending UTF-8 encoded characters, it is quite possible that existing clients will break because of previously unnoticed encoding bugs. So I would like to see some formal documentation of the protocol. Json

Re: [Wikitech-l] Live recent changes feed

2013-03-10 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-03-11 12:26 AM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Victor Vasiliev vasi...@gmail.com wrote: Finally, other than WebSocket and the socket interface, the one other subscription method we should have it some sort of HTTP hook call, i.e., it

Re: [Wikitech-l] Live recent changes feed

2013-03-11 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-03-11 1:11 AM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: *dos vector - register someone you don't like's url. Register 100 variants from the same domain. Push enwikipedia's rc feed there. Or you roll out some EC2 instances and open 100 sockets. (And before you say rate-limit

Re: [Wikitech-l] Live recent changes feed

2013-03-11 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-03-11 3:46 PM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, Sure you could add some mechamism to prove you own the domain where you want the rc updates to be sent, but things can get rather complex. Google uses, or at least used to use, the following to do exactly that: On

Re: [Wikitech-l] Live recent changes feed

2013-03-11 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-03-11 4:32 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: Honestly, the solution could be as simple as requiring that the HTTP response have a certain header or something. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Category sorting in random order

2013-03-11 Thread Brian Wolff
To ask the obvious question, is the key you have scp configured to use the same as the one in your gerrit prefs? -bawolff On 2013-03-11 8:05 PM, Paul Selitskas p.selits...@gmail.com wrote: Git review, of course. The log is here: http://pastebin.com/iC4N1am0 On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 1:46 AM,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Category sorting in random order

2013-03-11 Thread Brian Wolff
No worries. The obvious things are often the hardest to spot :-) -bawolff On 2013-03-11 8:24 PM, Paul Selitskas p.selits...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, thanks for that question. I didn't check but this is obviously it. Sorry for spamming :) On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Brian Wolff bawo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mediawiki's access points and mw-config

2013-03-12 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-03-12 6:31 AM, Daniel Friesen dan...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote: On Sat, 09 Mar 2013 08:15:05 -0800, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/03/13 15:47, Waldir Pimenta wrote: So mw-config can't be deleted after all? Or you mean the installer at includes/installer? Is you mean

Re: [Wikitech-l] Detect running from maintenance script in a parser function extension

2013-03-12 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-03-12 3:19 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Toni Hermoso Pulido toni...@cau.cat wrote: Hello, I'm checking whether I can detect that a process is run from a maintenance script in a parser function extension. Which would be the best

Re: [Wikitech-l] Detect running from maintenance script in a parser function extension

2013-03-12 Thread Brian Wolff
On 3/12/13, Toni Hermoso Pulido toni...@cau.cat wrote: Al 12/03/13 21:08, En/na Brian Wolff ha escrit: On 2013-03-12 3:19 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Toni Hermoso Pulido toni...@cau.cat wrote: Hello, I'm checking whether I can detect

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pronunciation recording tool wanted

2013-03-12 Thread Brian Wolff
On 3/12/13, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote: In Wiktionary, it's very convenient that some words have sound illustrations, e.g. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/go%C3%BBter These audio bites are simple 2-3 second OGG files, e.g. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fr-go%C3%BBter.ogg

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pronunciation recording tool wanted

2013-03-12 Thread Brian Wolff
On 3/12/13, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: It was solvable with a java applet (or flash, but that's usually considered evil) back in 2003. However it still requires someone to actually do it. For security

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pronunciation recording tool wanted

2013-03-12 Thread Brian Wolff
On 3/12/13, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 12, 2013 10:08 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/12/13, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: It was solvable with a java applet (or flash

Re: [Wikitech-l] A new feedback extension - review urgently needed

2013-03-13 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-03-12 8:38 PM, Lukas Benedix bene...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote: Do you have any advice what I can do? Don't take this the wrong way, but you should perhaps start considering a plan b. Community contributed extensions often take months before getting deployed. While that's not always

Re: [Wikitech-l] Github/Gerrit mirroring

2013-03-14 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-03-14 11:20 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: Can we please be real here? The reason more contributors come in through GitHub than through Gerrit is because they *already have a GitHub account*. My browser is always logged into GitHub, and it's at the point where I can

Re: [Wikitech-l] Missing project ideas for GSOC

2013-03-20 Thread Brian Wolff
Some of these probably aren't really that suitable: After this filtering, we seem to be left with: * An easy way to share wiki content on social media services I don't think this is a good idea unless the political climate on wikipedia has changed (we want the gsocer to stay. Flame wars are

Re: [Wikitech-l] Who is responsible for communicating changes in MediaWiki to WMF sites?

2013-03-21 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-03-21 3:08 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: Well, as part of the community and a volunteer, I can safely say that I don't think I (or anybody else) needs notification before bug fixes. :P *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Missing project ideas for GSOC

2013-03-22 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-03-22 9:37 AM, Guillaume Paumier gpaum...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi, On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:43 AM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: Many of the ideas listed there are too generic (Write an extension), improvements of existing features (Improve Extension:CSS) This may sound

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC How/whether MediaWiki could use ZendOptimizuerPlus -- ZendOptimizerPlus, opcode cache, PHP 5.4, APC, memcache ???

2013-03-22 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-03-22 9:20 AM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Thomas Gries m...@tgries.de wrote: I have to change CACHE_ACCEL to CACHE_NONE in my LocalSettings.php, and will still enjoy opcode caching by ZendOptimizerPlus, but have no memory cache -

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit/Jenkins Verification

2013-03-22 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-03-22 9:24 AM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: I've noticed that sometimes Jenkins +1s changes and other times it +2s them (for Verified, that is). Is there any specific pattern to this? It's not a problem or anything; I'm just curious. I feel like it was explained back when

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC How/whether MediaWiki could use ZendOptimizuerPlus -- ZendOptimizerPlus, opcode cache, PHP 5.4, APC, memcache ???

2013-03-22 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-03-22 10:45 AM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: Some people have claimed that CACHE_DB might even slow things down compared to CACHE_NONE when used as main cache type (cache db is still better than cache

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Alternative domains for Commons

2013-03-22 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-03-22 5:22 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Juliusz Gonera wrote: We've been having a hard time making photo uploads work in MobileFrontend because of CentralAuth's third party cookies problem (we upload them from Wikipedia web site to Commons API). Apart from the newest

Re: [Wikitech-l] [RFC] performance standards for new mediawiki features

2013-03-22 Thread Brian Wolff
been a way to reliably measure performance... The measure part is important. As it stands I have no way of measuring code in action (sure i can set up profiling locally, and actually have but its not the same [otoh i barely ever look at the local profiling i did set up...). People throw around

Re: [Wikitech-l] [RFC] performance standards for new mediawiki features

2013-03-22 Thread Brian Wolff
did set up... This problem still exists with graphite; you have to look at it for it to do any good :) That's lame ;) -bawolff ~Matt Walker Wikimedia Foundation Fundraising Technology Team On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: been a way to reliably

Re: [Wikitech-l] OPW intern looking for feedback!

2013-03-27 Thread Brian Wolff
Hi, Your extension looks quite good. I did an extensive review of your code over at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Bawolff/review/Git2Pages . Well that page may look very long, most of the issues listed there are minor nitpicks. - GitRepository will do a sparse checkout on the

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.21.0rc1 -- Help test 1.21 and update the announcement

2013-04-01 Thread Brian Wolff
Does your version of wiki support pictures in PDF and/or EPS format? MediaWiki supports uploading PDF and EPS files with the right configuration. I haven't tried uploading EPS files, but providing thumbnails of these and the PDFs should work. Im doubtful thumbnails of eps would just

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit actively discourages discussion

2013-04-01 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-04-02 12:32 AM, Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Matthew Walker mwal...@wikimedia.org wrote: You are definitely not the only one who finds these issues annoying. I too worry about the same. +1 Another big one is (1 comment) which gives no

Re: [Wikitech-l] Sort on category

2013-04-10 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-04-10 10:25 PM, Small M smallma...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, Are there any plans to have a tool that would allow to dynamically sort content based on category? Single category views, especially for large categories, aren't particularly helpful. Something similar to what Microsoft's

Re: [Wikitech-l] Sort on category

2013-04-11 Thread Brian Wolff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgxCvdoXpwM It was done before (albeit using a dedicated viewer which is now a silverlight control). So it can be done. -Small From: Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com To: Small M smallma...@yahoo.com; wikitech-l wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Clicktracking being phased out

2013-04-12 Thread Brian Wolff
On 4/12/13, Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, 2013-04-11 at 14:08 -0700, Ori Livneh wrote: Extension was dropped today. Lovely! Should http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ClickTracking get a blinkDo not use, go for EventLogging instead/blink box? AFAIK, ClickTracking

Re: [Wikitech-l] Project Idea for GSoC 2013 - Bayesian Spam Filter

2013-04-12 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-04-12 7:33 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/04/13 18:20, Quim Gil wrote: Hi Anubhav, I have done a first reality check with Chris Steipp, who oversees the area of security and also spam prevention. Your idea is interesting and it seems to be feasible. This is a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Article on API Characteristics

2013-04-17 Thread Brian Wolff
My understanding is its not really possible to do this in php in a way that would actually be of use to anyone. See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26631#c1 -bawolff On 4/17/13, Petr Onderka gsv...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding #7 in that list (Expect: 100-Continue), I think it

Re: [Wikitech-l] Article on API Characteristics

2013-04-18 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-04-18 1:13 AM, Petr Kadlec petr.kad...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 April 2013 22:33, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: My understanding is its not really possible to do this in php in a way that would actually be of use to anyone. See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id

Re: [Wikitech-l] No cascade protection on Mediawiki namespace

2013-04-20 Thread Brian Wolff
Mw namespace pages that expand templates generally arent the scary ones from an anon editing prespective. I don't think this is really neccesary, and can mostly be dealt with socially when needed. -bawolff P.s. $5 says someone will probably come up with an exception with in 10 seconds of me

Re: [Wikitech-l] 'Please - Help ' (GSOC)

2013-04-23 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-04-24 1:34 AM, hungers.to.nurt...@gmail.com wrote: I am wishing to propose a project that needs Wikipedia and I discussed about it a little on IRC. I wish to know that Wikimedia will not consider any Wikipedia related project as idea’s page says or if somehow I am able to

Re: [Wikitech-l] File Licensing Guidelines

2013-04-24 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-04-24 6:46 PM, Matthew Walker mwal...@wikimedia.org wrote: At the risk of starting another huge bikeshed like [1] I feel like we need some good guidance on just how in the heck we are required to license extensions/images/source code files. With the help of Marktraceur we now have

Re: [Wikitech-l] Support for multiple content languages in MW core

2013-04-25 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-04-25 7:04 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Brian, We already have the page lang support. What do you mean by that? AFAICT there's no existing designated place in the schema for associating

Re: [Wikitech-l] Support for multiple content languages in MW core

2013-04-25 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-04-25 9:12 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: 2013/4/25 Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com: On 2013-04-25 7:04 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Brian, We already have

Re: [Wikitech-l] Anyone using Apache 2.4 to run MediaWiki?

2013-04-25 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-04-25 2:01 PM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org wrote: On 04/25/2013 11:42 AM, Tyler Romeo wrote: How exactly did it not succeed? That's a pretty serious bug. I did say I didn't try very hard. I'm not sure php even works with apache 2.4 which is labeled experimental on

Re: [Wikitech-l] $wgUseMathJax

2013-04-27 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-04-27 4:34 PM, Moritz Schubotz phy...@physikerwelt.de wrote: Hi, I'd like to improve the variables of the math extension. I think $wgUseMathJax is misleading. I'd like to change $wgUseMathJax to $wgAllowMathJax and set it to true by default. In the same style I'd like to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tag extensions in Block mode

2013-04-28 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-04-28 6:01 AM, Moritz Schubotz phy...@physikerwelt.de wrote: Hi, how can I figure out in a tag extension callback e.g. function wfSampleRender( $input, array $args, Parser $parser, PPFrame $frame ) if the parser is inside a block mode or not? With block mode I mean something like

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSOC2013 Project idea - WiPhys: Box2D Interactive Physics Engine Plugin

2013-04-28 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-04-28 5:11 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 04/28/2013 10:17 AM, Moriel Schottlender wrote: Hi everyone, I posted an idea earlier this weekend to the list and received feedback -- and I really appreciate it! It made me realize that the idea I proposed was a little vague

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upcoming change to section edit links

2013-04-29 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-04-29 8:01 PM, Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi all, To resolve bug 41729, patch 49364 was recently merged. This means that there's going to be a small design change for section edit links, and probably more relevant for this list, the way the HTML for them is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tag extensions in Block mode

2013-05-01 Thread Brian Wolff
-proxy.wmflabs.org/wiki/Summation The equations denoted with \n:math e.g. :math\sum_a^b/math should be rendered in displaystyle, whereas inline equations e.g. Let math\sum_i 2^{-i}/math should be rendered normal. Best Moritz On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTML Validation Shell Script

2013-05-01 Thread Brian Wolff
$wgValidateAllHtml ? -bawolff On 2013-05-01 3:36 PM, Rob Moen rm...@wikimedia.org wrote: Like a boss! Thanks Jon. On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: W3CValidationTest -- Rob Moen Wikimedia Foundation rm...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Global watchlist and watchlist wishlist

2013-05-06 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-05-06 1:31 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 05/06/2013 05:41 AM, Guillaume Paumier wrote: A few people have started to organize the various bug reports about watchlists, but there is still much to do before we have a clear prioritized vision of what the watchlist feature

Re: [Wikitech-l] Global watchlist and watchlist wishlist

2013-05-06 Thread Brian Wolff
+1 Such a rule would seem rather misguided... -bawolff On 2013-05-06 6:58 PM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 05/06/2013 05:26 PM, Aaron Pramana wrote: Brian Wolff bawolff at gmail.com writes: On 2013-05-06 1:31 PM, Quim Gil qgil at wikimedia.org wrote: On 05

Re: [Wikitech-l] Coding style: Language construct spacing

2013-05-08 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-05-08 9:26 PM, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Since there appears to have been a little bit of trivia Hi, Since there appears to have been a little bit of trivia around fixing these phpcs warnings, I'll open a thread instead. Both in javascript and PHP there are

Re: [Wikitech-l] category intersection conversations

2013-05-08 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-05-08 11:48 PM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 8 May 2013 18:26, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: Recently a lot of people have been talking about what's possible and what's necessary regarding MediaWiki, CatScan-like tools, and real category

Re: [Wikitech-l] category intersection conversations

2013-05-09 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-05-09 3:21 PM, Luke Welling WMF lwell...@wikimedia.org wrote: Without deliberately making it an even longer term plan, as I think it is a great idea, another long goal solution to the same problem would be (as Flow gets Wikipedians into the idea of tagging) that categories get largely

Re: [Wikitech-l] category intersection conversations

2013-05-09 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-05-09 4:13 PM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 9 May 2013 12:07, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: Nobody has ever been able to explain to me the technical difference between tag and category. (Other than being able to query intersections, which is wanted

Re: [Wikitech-l] [GSoC] tools for micromanagement

2013-05-10 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-05-10 3:52 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone! What tools do you use for a small tasks in Google Summer of Code? I mean the tasks like prepare the working environment, learn gerrit, write a blogpost, etc.? I thin that bugzilla is too heavy for this purpose.

Re: [Wikitech-l] [GSoC] tools for micromanagement

2013-05-10 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-05-10 4:13 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: 2013/5/10 Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.com: Hi everyone! What tools do you use for a small tasks in Google Summer of Code? I mean the tasks like prepare the working environment, learn gerrit, write a blogpost,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is it possible to set revision tags from the API?

2013-05-11 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-05-11 5:06 PM, Jamie Thingelstad ja...@thingelstad.com wrote: I've looked into this and my conclusion is that it isn't possible, but I would really like to do this so I figured I would ask. I have a bot making edits via the API and I would like to use revision tags with the bots edits.

Re: [Wikitech-l] New extension: Special:ExtensionStatus (opinions?)

2013-05-13 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-05-13 5:16 AM, Moriel Schottlender mor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:06 AM, Markus Glaser gla...@hallowelt.biz wrote: I like that idea very much. In the use case I have in mind, though, I do have actual releases. Do you think it's possible for your extension to also

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Weekly Report

2013-05-13 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-05-13 7:21 AM, Željko Filipin zfili...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 5:00 AM, reporter repor...@kaulen.wikimedia.org wrote: General/Unknown 12 Site requests 12 General/Unknown 11 General/Unknown is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Job queue upgrade

2013-05-14 Thread Brian Wolff
You can clear your job queue (run all jobs in it) by running maintenance/runJobs.php and disabling user write access temporarily to prevent new jobs from being created. Whether or not that is reasonable advice is another question. Otoh most jobs are rather unimportant if a bunch get lost (couple

Re: [Wikitech-l] Job queue upgrade

2013-05-14 Thread Brian Wolff
innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: Wouldn't a purge also create refreshlinks jobs? -Chad On May 14, 2013 1:19 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: You can clear your job queue (run all jobs in it) by running maintenance/runJobs.php and disabling user write access temporarily to prevent new jobs

Re: [Wikitech-l] State of MediaWiki's render action (parameter to index.php)

2013-05-19 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-05-19 10:09 PM, K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 4:34 AM, Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org wrote: We should give people a heads up, unless/until it's reconsidered and we decide to undeprecate it (maintain support indefinitely). Matt Flaschen

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla: Separate bug report status when patch is in Gerrit?

2013-06-05 Thread Brian Wolff
On 6/5/13, Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi everybody, in December I mentioned the idea of having a PATCH_AVAILABLE or PATCH_TO_REVIEW status in Bugzilla [1] and that we should re-evaluate the idea once we have automatic notifications from Gerrit into Bugzilla in place [2].

Re: [Wikitech-l] Doxygen tags - a proposal

2013-06-08 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-06-08 5:29 AM, S Page sp...@wikimedia.org wrote: Perhaps Ori is pointing out that doxygen (and jsduck) require needless verbiage. The tools aren't smart enough to infer obvious information from source on their own (or maybe they are but you're not sure and you see other comments using

Re: [Wikitech-l] migrating hooks doc to doxygen?

2013-06-08 Thread Brian Wolff
Frankly I think we should try automating stuff towards our wiki rather than using it as a way to take stuff out. Find ways to integrate this data automatically into parts of the wiki. Bots if you ABSOLUTELY need to. But preferably instead extensions and Lua stuff. Things that provide the data

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [WikimediaMobile] Number crunching: Upload errors on mobile

2013-06-08 Thread Brian Wolff
The server problems section is worth a look though - although a small percentage The modification you tried to make was aborted by an extension hook 61. These errors are occurring on the following wiki projects: * sv.m.wikipedia.org * de.m.wikipedia.org * test.m.wikipedia.org *

Re: [Wikitech-l] CHanging the name of Vector on 1.21.1

2013-06-10 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-06-10 3:02 AM, Dmitriy Sintsov ques...@rambler.ru wrote: 10 Июнь 2013 г. 9:15:44 пользователь (j00...@mail.com) написал: Hello everyone, I want to modify the default Vector theme that comes with 1.21.1. But before I do that I want to rename it. I want to name it nighttime. I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deprecating use of the style attribute (part 1)

2013-06-11 Thread Brian Wolff
On 6/11/13, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: Many of you on the mailing list should be aware of the troubles that the style attribute brings to mobile [1,2] and the amount of hacks [3] that we have to introduce to work around them. I still truly believe the only way we can resolve this

Re: [Wikitech-l] FLAC support in Mediawiki/Commons

2013-06-12 Thread Brian Wolff
On 6/12/13, Emmanuel Engelhart kel...@kiwix.org wrote: Hi I'm not an audio expert but AFAIK, FLAC is probably the best solution to store lossless audio streams. Similar to TIFF for pictures. The difference (with TIFF) is that we don't have FLAC support for now in Mediawiki... and it seems

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deprecating use of the style attribute (part 1)

2013-06-13 Thread Brian Wolff
On 6/13/13, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: Firstly thank you so so much for all this constructive discussion. I worry that I'm convoluting this discussion with my wish to deprecate the style attribute. It's a thing I would like to see but it is not the most important discussion to have

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshed 5: The Painter Strikes Back

2013-06-15 Thread Brian Wolff
On 6/16/13, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: So I was wondering how people would feel about adding a coding convention for the use of is_null() in PHP code. It's 10 times slower than doing === null, which is a bit trivial in context, but nonetheless a fact, and it's also a bit easier

Re: [Wikitech-l] Graphical note entry for wiki music [Extension:Score]?

2013-06-16 Thread Brian Wolff
On 6/16/13, Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org wrote: Hi, I am working on a GUI for LilyPond and am looking for your feedback on the desirability or usefulness --if any-- for MediaWiki. My desire is to have LilyPond accessible to everyone by presenting a basic GUI initially so as to provide

Re: [Wikitech-l] Automating Main Page with Lua

2013-06-17 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-06-17 4:20 PM, Paul Selitskas p.selits...@gmail.com wrote: Turning back to the automating thing and the Main Page. I've got tired updating the Other Wikipedias section (congratulations to the Swedish Wikipedia!), so I wrote some code to automate the job. There is a bot that updates

Re: [Wikitech-l] Search documentation

2013-06-17 Thread Brian Wolff
Just as a note, MediaWiki default (aka crappy) search is very different from the lucene stuff used by Wikimedia. Lucene search is rather difficult to set up, so most third party wikis do not use it. --bawolff On 6/17/13, Nikolas Everett never...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm not sure about

Re: [Wikitech-l] Search documentation

2013-06-18 Thread Brian Wolff
it simpler to use. Nik On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: Just as a note, MediaWiki default (aka crappy) search is very different from the lucene stuff used by Wikimedia. Lucene search is rather difficult to set up, so most third party wikis do not use

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki errors on Wikimedia wikis

2013-06-19 Thread Brian Wolff
On 6/19/13, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: I added a link to http://tinyurl.com/n3twd8k to the channel topic of #wikimedia-tech #wikimedia-operations. It points to a live graph of MediaWiki's error rate over the last 24 hours . I hope to automate monitoring of this data sometime soon,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Performance issues with mediawiki 1.21

2013-06-20 Thread Brian Wolff
On 6/20/13, Johannes Weberhofer jweberho...@weberhofer.at wrote: Dear all! After upgrading a server to a complete new system (apache/php/mysql-mariadb) I have massive performance-problems when a large page is to be rendered. I have added a profiling log; I do not think, it is related to the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Removal of Bugzilla admins

2013-06-22 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-06-22 6:49 PM, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com wrote: On 22 June 2013 22:33, Alex Monk kren...@gmail.com wrote: I've just found out that WMF's Bugmeister Andre Klapper removed nearly everyone's Bugzilla adminship (and people with root access on the servers now have

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Videos on mobile

2013-06-24 Thread Brian Wolff
In regards to unresolved codec issues, that is more a political/legal than a technical issues. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OggHandler We haven't been using OggHandler for quite some time now (Since November 2012). We now use TimedMediaHandler extension. -bawolff On 6/24/13,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bot upload of files over 100MB

2013-06-25 Thread Brian Wolff
When browsing through commons, I happened to stumble upon https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Smallman12q/PyCJWiki which appears to be a python bot that uses chunked uploading, and thus work with files up to 500 mb big. Perhaps it would be helpful to you. --bawolff On 6/25/13, Tilman Bayer

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bot upload of files over 100MB

2013-06-25 Thread Brian Wolff
On 6/25/13, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org wrote: quote name=Techman224 date=2013-06-25 time=16:47:39 -0500 Right now the wiki is setup to only allow up to 100 MB files. The only way I see to upload a file greater than that is to file a bugzilla request and a system administrator with

Re: [Wikitech-l] Moving on from Doxygen?

2013-07-05 Thread Brian Wolff
On 7/5/13, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Matthew Walker mwal...@wikimedia.org wrote: 1. Not be tortoise slow Pretty sure this only matters because we do continuous integration -- we probably don't need to do this for every commit...? Maybe once a day?

Re: [Wikitech-l] Problems Updating from 1.18 to 1.21.1

2013-07-09 Thread Brian Wolff
On 7/9/13, Derric Atzrott datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote: Good morning all, I have a question about a problem that cropped up during my update from 1.18 to 1.21.1. With one exception everything went smoothly during my update, but now all of my images, appear to be without thumbnails

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to get the number of pages in a category

2013-07-09 Thread Brian Wolff
On 7/9/13, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Daniel Mietchen daniel.mietc...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello together, in the framework of a GLAM project, we are looking for ways to (1) identify the number of pages in a given category - including

Re: [Wikitech-l] Moving a page to a category page.

2013-07-11 Thread Brian Wolff
On 7/11/13, Beebe, Mary J bee...@battelle.org wrote: We would like to make pages into category pages. If we try to move a page to a category namespace it will not let us. Is there a configuration variable to do that? Thanks, Mary ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-22 Thread Brian Wolff
On 7/22/13, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 22 July 2013 11:45, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: Putting all of the issues aside, I'd like to know what the reason is for hiding the preference. Let's assume for a second that VE does not hinder users at all, that it's

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-22 Thread Brian Wolff
On 7/22/13, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:35 PM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.orgwrote: It would imply that this is a preference that Wikimedia thinks is appropriate. This

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-25 Thread Brian Wolff
I made the call about a year ago, and mentioned it in several of the dozens of mailing list and on-wiki posts made about the development of VisualEditor since then. Clearly my communication about it wasn't read, or wasn't understood, by the people who subsequently complained, but I wouldn't

Re: [Wikitech-l] New Senior Software Engineer: Bryan Davis

2013-07-29 Thread Brian Wolff
On 7/29/13, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi everyone, I'm pleased to welcome Bryan Davis to Wikimedia Foundation's Platform Engineering team. Bryan joins us from Keynetics in Boise, Idaho, where he was the senior programmer and architect on a team responsible for new product

Re: [Wikitech-l] no TLS 1.1 and 1.2 support

2013-07-29 Thread Brian Wolff
I agree. I'm just saying there are so many other security issues to choose from that this one is almost irrelevant. Specifically? Are there bugs filed for them? I'm personally not aware of any serious security issues currently affecting us (Obviously I don't have access to security bugs, but I

Re: [Wikitech-l] gwtoolset : architecture design help

2013-07-31 Thread Brian Wolff
Metadata Set Repo - one of the goals of the project is to store Metadata Sets, such as XML under some type of version control. those Metadata Sets need to be accessible so that the extension can grab the content from it and process it. processing involves iterating over the

Re: [Wikitech-l] How's the SSL thing going?

2013-07-31 Thread Brian Wolff
Which kind of ignores the issue that encrypting with ssl doesn't do a lot against traffic analysis, when its publicly known how big the pages you're downloading are, and how many images/other assets they have on them. NSA certainly has the resources to do this if they want. If you can do this

Re: [Wikitech-l] RandomInCategory Patch Merged!

2013-08-01 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-08-01 6:21 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: Le 01/08/13 21:04, Yuvi Panda a écrit : Bug 25931[1], Implement efficient way to select random page from specified category on Wikimedia wikis has just been marked as resolved, thanks to this patch[2] from Bawolff that Brion

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-05 Thread Brian Wolff
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52556 sounds related... --bawolff On 8/5/13, Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada emi...@gmail.com wrote: What is the explanation for this? My spam folder is full of emails from wiki mailing lists too. Perhaps many users don't know how to unsubscribe and

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