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>in production (selective serialization) introduces ZERO dirty diffs
>in 99.986% of those edits[3]. 10 of those 23 edits with dirty diffs
>are minor newline diffs.
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ng #roadmap, but,
I'm open to continuing the conversation and revisiting when we know
more/learn more.
(For the record: I'm going on vacation this weekend until July 12th,
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> If this is all their host provides, however, this will in practice
> lead only to never-updated MediaWiki running on never-updated PHP.
Not much anyone other than the host or the user can do about that.
Certainly nothing we (MW devs and/or WMF) can.
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Based on those dates I think we should make the bump sooner than later.
Less than a year left for Debian support isn't that long, really.
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> For all intents and purposes github is superior to gerrit and phabricator
> in almost every way. It was avoided at Wikimedia in the past because of
> privacy and security concerns.
Which have not disappeared nor been addressed.
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> shouldn't be unilaterally trying to move themselves to other platforms,
> especially without any kind of proper discussion.
The previous(ly declined) discussion was at:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95749
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Please post those KPIs somewhere public and trackable (wiki or phab).
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> [4] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108045
> [5] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108191
> [6] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111233
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teams/groups helping other teams/groups! You, personally, have been
great this so far and I thank you for that.
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think). See the other sub-thread on adding @integration test runs on wmf
deploy branch creation at:
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I guess this is to guard against the WMF changing content behind the
scenes? Through court order or otherwise?
The pages are already cryptographically signed for transmission (tls), so
you know you get what WMF servers want you to get, at least.
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but: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers/Maintainers ).
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> T113189, for example, were tagged by a bot after patches were merged that
> didn't completely close the bugs.
Ostensibly: bugs that affect MW 1.26. In theory, it'd be good to get it
to zero before we release in theory.
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s made worthy of a mention in the release
notes? If yes, do something, if not, then it's great that the default
was not to include this task.
3) Remove from #MW-X.YY-release-notes is it shouldn't be included in the
"Tasks closed in 1.27" part of
You can read
more of that reasoning in the above (draft) guideline and in this
document describing why we want to migrate to Differential:
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ople, even within WMF engineering teams,
don't like it when you tell them they're using a status or task
incorrectly. Bazaar vs Cathedral and all.
I have no conclusion or summary, yet,
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f Travis-CI is indirectly using AWS. Are there other indirect uses?
Travis-CI is only currently used by a very small number of repositories,
luckily.
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> community developers as well? "Used by wikimedia" is very broad term.
I interpreted "Wikimedia" as WMF, for better or worse, in my email, just
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run a test environment independent from WMF (and/or WMF
> Jenkins).
As in, they would not be experiencing any outage because they are not
using Travis. The very topic of this thread.
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> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Greg Grossmeier wrote:
>
> > As in, they would not be experiencing any outage because they are not
> > using Travis. The very topic of this thread.
> >
>
> Nowhere in this thread is the uptime of Travis or AWS mentio
git hooks". :/
Not a great example working relationship with FLOSS partners.
Greg
[0] Sending with my personal email address but via my wmf gmail account
because I'm not subscribed to wikitech-l with my personal email.
[1] At least those who I talk with, including those in prominent FLOSS
I like them, and have thought to ask to have the wikitext copy/pasted in
the email. I also like both engineering@ and wikitech-l@, gets 'em all.
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> I agree, I also find the email useful.
>
> Considering differe
Just FYI for those on Google-hosted email.
See: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115416
TL;DR: Check your spam folder :)
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See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116447 for more details and
updates.
Have a good weekend,
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> fail.
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> We're sorry about the inconvenience.
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> See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116447 for more details and
> updates.
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> Have a good weekend,
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#x27;scap', don't worry, scap3 is just the
working name of the new feature set we're adding to it) will allow us to
catch this kind of error much faster and before many people see it
through the use of canary deploys with automated health checks (those
health checks are confi
Do we want to discuss the issue at a high
level? Yes. Do we want to discuss at a low-level/specific
implementation? Also yes. But let others discuss the high level if they
want (while others should discuss the low-level if they want). Separate
threads maybe :)
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We are headed into the season of vacations and high risk fundraising, as
such, the WMF is (I am) putting in place "deployment freezes" for a few
weeks over the next seven. See full details below and on the Deployments
page on wikitech.
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For the record, that's K4-713 on irc, not Katie. :p
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On Nov 25, 2015 13:39, "K. Peachey" wrote:
> On Thursday, November 26, 2015, Brian Wolff wrote:
>
> > >> FTR: "High Priority" means security and data loss, really. There may
> be
> > >> other
3% speed increase! Well done Antoine (and team).
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r).
You can see tracking task for that RFC here:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119908
I think this has obvious ties to code quality (through how we develop as
a group).
Thanks for reaching out!
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While promotions are fairly insular, I think the wikitech community
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is released.
Started to work on geospatial search implementation.
* Quarterly review this Thursday
* Waiting for security review on TextCat
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Wouldn't feature flagging[0], broadly termed, help here?
Other than that, I think you all made the right choice.
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[0] Martin Fowler uses "feature toggle":
http://martinfowler.com/articles/feature-toggles.html is a good
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Those pages are automatically created and posted every week with the
train, for free (by RelEng).
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This is similar to the concern/line of reasoning that lead to all of the
questions about whether or not "WMF senior leadership" will be in active
attendance at the Dev Summit.
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won't spend their personal time doing that work.
However, this might be rat-holing on this one aspect around
"resourcing", so I'm willing to both be told I'm wrong and drop it.
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from all sources (comm wishlist,
devsummit, archcom, etc). In reality, it's the only thing that makes
sense ("Listen to all input, discuss options, decide.").
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mas -
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124741
=== Technical Operations ===
* No update.
== Advancement ==
=== Fundraising Tech ===
* Adam Wight and Andrew Green taking the month off fr-tech to work on
* Education Program extension
* Got CI jobs running against
rt you put
into this and I'm both very impressed and very grateful.
Thanks!
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I will update the list when Beta Cluster is back to normal.
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[0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Beta_Cluster
[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126573 with a blocker on
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es with this yesterday (by adding
more Ubuntu Trusty Jenkins slaves, the migration to Nodepool is a longer
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Thank you for your understanding,
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> The Beta Cluster[0] is currently not being updated with new code[1].
This is now fixed and the Beta Cluster is updating with new code again.
Thanks for your understanding.
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> FYI for future reference Phabricator has a great poll feature that may be
> useful for these kind of votes:
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/vote/
See an example at:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/V7
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phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124356 -- Kunal's
logging seems to have yielded results and he pushed a fix to the MobileFrontend
extension.
** Work ongoing to set up prod wiki clones on labs vms -- more involved than it
should be. Required for visual diff testing to test tweaks / changes to
wikitext parsing / tidy replacement / etc.
VisualEditor
* '''Blocking''':
** None known.
* '''Blocked''':
** Waiting on Design Research availability for user testing of Single Edit Tab
integration
* '''Updates''':
** Single Edit Tab live on group0 and Hungarian Wikipedia; next up, Polish
Wikipedia, then English.
** OOUI on all pages: Initial proof-of-concept code
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/274328 being written. Deployment will not be
next week, and will be in concert with Discovery and Performance teams.
=== Fundraising Tech ===
* No blockers
* preparing real donor test of backup worldwide credit card processor
* Working out final details of Latin American payment processing expansion
* Steady stream of CiviCRM enhancements for us and upstream
* More experiments in fraud monitoring and blocking
* Adam Wight and Andrew Green return from a month of work on education program
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production
Let me know if you're interested!
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> I could do it. CI that was making me sad previously is in a much better
> shape now (thanks!) so I'm in.
Sweet! Thanks Max!
(moving logistics offthread...)
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> I'd love to help if you're looking for more people!
Yay!
(follow-up offlist...)
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* DC switch-over for RESTBase, node services happening tomorrow European
morning (3 hours): https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127974
** Services already running in Dallas, Cassandra master-master replication
** No user impact expected
* REST API CDN caching: Most entry points now purged &
habricator.wikimedia.org/T128371
Thanks,
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A flaky unit test
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131549
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*** Patches submitted to tools that use ORES (huggle*, ra-un,
ScoredRevisions, crosswatch, RTRC)
=== Security ===
* Reviews: Gadgets in progress; next week: Newsletter, DOMPurify,
* Hovercards, UploadLinks, DoubleWiki
* Security release soon (maybe next week)
* Ops: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131
an-changes
Create or update a revision without requesting a
code review.
Which makes something like this:
https://secure.phabricator.com/D15906
Then that change does not show up in searches for Diffs needing review.
:)
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Upstream docs:
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I like the WIP status label better, personally :)
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{Username}@{wiki}"
There was an order of magnitude increase in the rate of those errors
that started on July 7th.
Investigation and remediation is on-going.
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> > > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119736 - "Could not find local user
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> > > There was an order of magnitude increase in
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going at a few hundred contacts per minute, but
now we think that even the first iteration will catch a majority of the
duplicates.
* LZia might be doing some analysis on CentralNotice banner numbers, in a
part-time volunteer project for WLM. She'll be the first analyst to u
> > Any comments / suggestions are very welcome.
>
> Thanks for working on this kind of data collection and visualization Adam.
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> This is really cool and another recent example of Alex grinding out
> the steps to close a long standing feature wish for the beta cluster.
> Thanks!
+1, thanks Krenair
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Apart from fixing a few seldom-seen bugs, this upgrade shouldn't result in
> > noticeable changes for Labs users. It will lay the groundwork for an
> > upcoming Horizon upgrade, but that will be announced in a future email.
> >
> > -Andrew
> >
> >
> >
t; duplicated or anything, but it is now safe to remove the hook.
>
> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142120> tracks updating extensions
> to do so by moving their tests into the standardized path and removing
> the hook.
>
> Note: this requires that the extension has al
oy
[3] Canary error rate checks built-in, see:
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On Aug 10, 2016 4:43 PM, "Chad Horohoe" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Nodepool isn't happy, so our CI is having trouble spinning up new
> instances for testing. We're
> well aware and working on it.
>
> Since a couple of people have
e already in
progress and others are still in the planning/formative stage as the way
forward.
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headers, see:
> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/SWAT_deploys#Doing_the_deploy
> [3] Canary error rate checks built-in, see:
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2016-August/086255.html
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ed by the task, since that let's me
> see the new activity on the task at a glance and open it to read/act if I
> need to.
>
> So I've made a user script that does exactly that:
> https://gist.github.com/joakin/c0e5dffc23aaf05175a580d24a2adefe
That's great, t
Normal schedule will resume the following week.
Teaser: The week of October 17th will be a "no train deploys" weeks as
the Wikimedia Release Engineering Team will be at their offsite that
week. I'll send a reminder about this as well closer to that date.
Best,
Greg
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Think:
migration and maintenance scripts.
This was discussed and proposed in T144661[1].
Best,
Greg
[0] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments
Relevant diff:
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=850923&oldid=850244
[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T14466
deploys/opsen.
Of course, if the long running task does imply no other deploys (not
terribly common) then that would be coordinated appropriately.
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duled further in
advance (~1 week) than something that is low-risk and will be completed
in 2-3 hours.
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What Alex said. This is for one off type things.
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he others that aren't
decided represented there would, based on past experience, still benefit
from a conversation with the DevSummit group (social factors, community
disagreement).
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> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Greg Grossmeier wrote:
>
> >
> > > The suggestion has been raised (
> > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Tbyqbjcuihhkhtk8) that one of the
> > > Topics for the upcoming Developer Summit be the Community Wishli
tor.wikimedia.org/T144952
** Getting some help from RobLa and Timo, but would appreciate any other
help from caching experts
* Migrated main donations queues to Redis, turning off last ActiveMQ
* usage real soon now
* Still more tweaks to CiviCRM contact de-duplication
* Testing backup credit card pr
l Operations ===
> > * '''Blocked'''
> > ** None
> > * '''Blocking'''
> > ** Noone
> > * Updates
> > ** SCB cluster capacity doubled today
> > ** work ongoing on varnish 4 on text
> > ** Jessie a
nnel.
> See also: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95757
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ill be done by Antoine Musso, Tyler Cipriani and Daniel Zahn.
> > You will be able to watch progress on IRC in the #wikimedia-operations
> > channel.
> > See also: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95757
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As always, the canonical location for deployment information is at:
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments
Best,
Greg
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hose SWATs are only for
important fixes; don't even think about using them as a way of getting
around the lack of a train.
Details:
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments#Week_of_November_21st
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