Re: [WISPA] wow! Motorola Whitespaces filing

2007-03-07 Thread Carl A jeptha
Marlon, it's about business, Moto saw money to be made, as they have done with their canopy systems. How much for a razor ph. and how much for a canopy cpe?? You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype

RE: [WISPA] wow! Motorola Whitespaces filing

2007-03-07 Thread Gino Villarini
Actually, a razor phone cost more or less the same as a Canopy CPE Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl A jeptha Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [WISPA] wow! Motorola Whitespaces filing

2007-03-07 Thread Dylan Oliver
link for all filings on NPRM 04-186: *http://tinyurl.com/yswcon* link for Motorola's summary response to the filings: * http://tinyurl.com/2fwhtp *Motorola is a large company with many divisions and many interests - some of which certainly conflict. Of course, these filings are never filed under

[WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Hi All, We have a meeting set up for the 22nd in Va. I have 4 people set to go to it at this time but I'd like a 5th. I'm after a network admin type. Anyone have the time and recourses available? Or if I missed your offer earlier, please let me know. I have to get info to the FBI ASAP

[WISPA] NetFreeUs

2007-03-07 Thread Peter R.
At The FCC: Wireless Broadband Petition File Grows Fatter NetfreeUs LLC, a wholly owned subsidiary of wireless broadband provider Speedus Corp., has joined the first-responder-service fray, asking the Federal Communications Commission for authority to manage a new nationwide Wireless Public

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread wispa
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 10:35:29 -0800, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote Hi All, We have a meeting set up for the 22nd in Va. I have 4 people set to go to it at this time but I'd like a 5th. I'm after a network admin type. Anyone have the time and recourses available? Or if I missed

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sigh. First, the mission statement for WISPA, just so's we're all on the same page about motivations: Wireless Internet Service Providers Association is dedicated to promoting and improving the WISP industry. Second, if you don't like it, join us in our efforts at the regulatory level.

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread Ron Wallace
I'm with you Marlon. I support your position. However, if I am all the support you have you better use a cane. Ron Wallace -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2007 04:36 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread Peter R.
Mark, If you have access to reach millions, why don't you activate that little network and get them to sway the government to your cause? The can't, won't, forcibly stuff on a public, archived email list is yet another example of why the government does not like to deal with small

RE: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread Marty Dougherty
Mark- (I cant help myself with this one) You say However, if this costs more than $100 to implement (that's all I have in the bank at this moment), I will simply file stating I cannot and will not comply, period. How about all of the other things you will have to do in order to operate your

RE: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread Patrick Leary
Sigh. This thread and sparring going at the isp-wireless list on a similar thread shows just how difficult it can be for small WISPs to agree on any one issue, much less all UL wireless broadband providers across all provider segments. Even the personally-funded best of intentions (e.g. Marlon's

RE: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread Patrick Leary
Great solution Marty. Really. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marty Dougherty Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 2:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi ...How about we pass on the cost to

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread wispa
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 13:36:20 -0800, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote Sigh. First, the mission statement for WISPA, just so's we're all on the same page about motivations: Wireless Internet Service Providers Association is dedicated to promoting and improving the WISP industry.

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread wispa
On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 21:44:56 +, Ron Wallace wrote I'm with you Marlon. I support your position. However, if I am all the support you have you better use a cane. Ron Wallace I dunno if you've met Marlon, but he's got pretty decent legs of his own... he'll be alright :)

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
H, interesting idea! I believe there is something not too far from that on my phone bills already. marlon How about all of the other things you will have to do in order to operate your business- especially taxes and insurance. Did you put them into your business plan? If so, then

[WISPA] Was CALEA, WAY off topic video and commentary.

2007-03-07 Thread wispa
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 14:05:35 -0800, Patrick Leary wrote Sigh. This thread and sparring going at the isp-wireless list on a similar thread shows just how difficult it can be for small WISPs to agree on any one issue, much less all UL wireless broadband providers across all provider segments.

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Fourth, certainly I know I'm not speaking for all WISPs. I'm speaking for WISPA. YOU get to choose whether or not you wish to agree. You can always file a statement saying you don't agree and why. The FCC loves to hear from us. Last I knew the IEEE never asked for my opinion on a standard

[WISPA] Place to purchase routers in quanity

2007-03-07 Thread Andrew Niemantsverdriet
I am needing to order some customer routers in quanity. I have been using the linksys wrt54gc and really like them. Do you guys have suggestions of vendors to use? Thanks, _ /-\ ndrew -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:

RE: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread Mac Dearman
Thank you Marlon! I can now delete my saved response that I had composed earlier and was contemplating sending. Anyone can respond better than I as I seem to have trouble portraying what I am thinking in a really politically correct fashion. It is one of my biggest faults. (other than 12 others

Re: [WISPA] Place to purchase routers in quanity

2007-03-07 Thread wispa
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 16:25:06 -0700, Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote Do you want wireless routers? http://3btech.net/chwl80wirofo.html I have been installing these galore, they're FCC certified, and for a cheap consumer router, have the quick setup, and nice set of access control features that

Re: [WISPA] Place to purchase routers in quanity

2007-03-07 Thread Andrew Niemantsverdriet
those will do nicely! I order a few of them to try out before I put in a big order thanks! On 3/7/07, wispa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 16:25:06 -0700, Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote Do you want wireless routers? http://3btech.net/chwl80wirofo.html I have been installing these

RE: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread Rick Harnish
Yeah but Mac, we shore do enjoy dat weeziana drawl. You have a special way with words that few can match, not even JohnnyO. :P Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] Place to purchase routers in quanity

2007-03-07 Thread wispa
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:19:23 -0700, Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote I have around a half dozen in place, and recently bought a dozen. Doesn't even come with an ethernet cable nor printed manual, but they seem to work just fine. those will do nicely! I order a few of them to try out before I

RE: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread wispa
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 21:18:11 -0500, Rick Harnish wrote Yeah but Mac, we shore do enjoy dat weeziana drawl. You have a special way with words that few can match, not even JohnnyO. :P what a kidder. Mac has never had a PC thought in his life, I'm sure :) Rick Harnish President

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread Dave Brenton
Folks, I do not want to rant or in anyway fan flames here, but I Do want to ask the question: What are the Big Kids doing about CALEA and the talk seeping out, about data monitoring / logging from DOJ? Earthlink, AOL (and it's clones), MSN, ATT? Are those guys on the

Re: [WISPA] Place to purchase routers in quanity

2007-03-07 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, I just ordered one to try... can you tell me if there is "remote management" options like with the Linksys routers and what port it runs on and if it can be changed? Travis Microserv wispa wrote: On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:19:23 -0700, Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote I have around a half

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread wispa
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 22:16:38 -0600, Dave Brenton wrote Folks, I do not want to rant or in anyway fan flames here, but I Do want to ask the question: What are the Big Kids doing about CALEA and the talk seeping out, about data monitoring / logging from DOJ? Earthlink, AOL

Re: [WISPA] Place to purchase routers in quanity

2007-03-07 Thread wispa
On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 21:48:53 -0700, Travis Johnson wrote Hi, I just ordered one to try... can you tell me if there is remote management options like with the Linksys routers and what port it runs on and if it can be changed? Travis Microserv I'm pretty sure they do. It's been a

Re: [WISPA] Place to purchase routers in quanity

2007-03-07 Thread George Rogato
I'm pretty sure they do. It's been a while since I looked at that, and my customers are all behind NAT, so I can't reach the routers. Yeah you can, you just have to set up all your routers right. I'd help you, but I'm not the one to do a

Re: [WISPA] Place to purchase routers in quanity

2007-03-07 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007, George Rogato wrote: It's been a while since I looked at that, and my customers are all behind NAT, so I can't reach the routers. Yeah you can, you just have to set up all your routers right. I'd help you, but I'm not the one