On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You can do this with RADIUS attributes.
Thanks, this helps point me in the right direction.
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LOL, yeah me too. I noticed that after I sent it. I figured oh well, too
late now.
sorry bout that.
marlon
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From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Real good actual
...two grizzled veterans making a rookie mistake...Cool picture though,
at least if you are a wonk like Marlon and I (and most of you here).
Interesting too since the concept of advanced diversity -- in time,
space and polarity is so alien to typical unlicensed.
Patrick
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Heya - try covera zone, its not cheap tho. www.celtrio.com
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Behalf Of Rogelio
Sent: Wednesday, 14 May 2008 5:59 p.m.
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] wifi heat maps
I would like to make wifi heat maps,
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080513-philadelphias-municipal-wifi-network-to-go-dark.html
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So there's 4 sets of electronics and two dual polarity antenna per sector?
What size of tower is that? It looks pretty good sized.
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From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA
Damn, there goes any hope for free water service too...
grin
Brad
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:17 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] Philadelphia's municipal WiFi network to go
Exactly, yes. Not sure how big the tower is Mike. Lots of weight to this
rig for sure though.
Patrick Leary
AVP, Market Development
Alvarion, Inc.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 09:43:28 -0500
From: Brad Belton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Philadelphia's municipal WiFi network to go dark
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Damn, there goes any hope for free water service too...
grin
Brad
Don't forget, Philly
The 2008 WISPA Board Election schedule has been set by the current Board
of Directors.
Any and all members who are interested in entering the election process for
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's OK - saved me from having to ask ;-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:53 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Real good actual photo of a 4th order diversity
cell
Uggh. Sorry
I'm curious to know WISPA's official position on this is.
Looking back in the archives, I see little discussion about this, but the
only way this information is going to be obtained, is if ISP's are required
to determine the location of each census unit and then plot on maps of the
census unit
I'm surprised that a for profit wisp didn't try to take over the network
and rework it's structure and pricing model.
How many times have we heard or thought, if we had the money. this is
just as good, the equipment is there it just needs to have a ensible
approach.
Brad Belton wrote:
Well,
There are ways to do this in GIS software and I thought I heard mention
that the FCC was going to provide a site to do this as well. The census
block is the smallest sized geographic polygon that they use as a unit of
study at the Census Bureau. You can download the raw data and create
It's starting to look like the dot-bomb era again, only in the
communications realm this time.
Travis
Microserv
Brad Belton wrote:
Well, true on the original failed Muni-WiFi business model, but my comment
was based on Mr. Huff's statement below. They can't even give it away!
EarthLink
Sigh.
I am in an industry filled with jellyfish.
It is unbelievably depressing.
insert witty tagline here
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From: Brian Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:37 PM
The story even gets better here:
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fiw-earthlink14-2008may14,0,2022464.story
Give the network away along with $1M in CASH and still no takers!
Haha...unbelievable...well not really.
This proves there are some business plans that are so bad you can't even PAY
I agree, I would also like to know the position of WISPA. It looks like
another great way for some company to make extra income off of my already
short bottom line. The current reporting is a pain but can be completed in
an hour or so. I am not privileged to have GIS software and data setting
Travis,
If they are using Cisco Routers you can use ManageEngine NetFlow Analyzer. It
provides source and destination info along with traffic info (utilization,
speed, packets, volume, etc.) There is nothing to change on the client or
server side, other than configure the router to send the info.
Im going to repost a response I made privately, leaving off the other
person... I want to be clear what's really bothering me lately.
==
Maybe I should be more clear. I fail to see why I should have to conduct
even 1 minute's free labor... The results of which are going to result
I guess a benefit I can see (out west here) is that we constantly hear of
the need for government to step in and provide broadband because of the lack
of such. If there was a comprehensive coverage map, projects like UTOPIA,
iProvo and Philladelphia/Earthlink might not ever launch. They might
I kinda think that the news about municipal operatoins would provide
reasonable evidence why public provision of such is is SUCH a bad idea...
insert witty tagline here
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From: Chuck McCown - 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General
Just curious to NAT or not to NAT,
We have been operating with NATed addresses out to our customers on a
10.x.x.x private network, the trouble is more and more customers are
wanting to use services that require a public IP, such as remote
security camera monitoring, etc... we currently have
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Could someone tell me what the blazes these costs are?
The metro-wi-fi setups I've seen (admittedly not many) have crazy
utilities costs. Using something like Tropos gear (the stuff I'm most
familiar with), you need one repeater every four square blocks or so.
Each
Patrick Nix Jr. wrote:
We have been operating with NATed addresses out to our customers on a
10.x.x.x private network, the trouble is more and more customers are
wanting to use services that require a public IP, such as remote
security camera monitoring, etc... we currently have been offering
We have always offered a single public IP address to every customer
(dial-up, DSL, wireless, fiber, etc.) and then we charge $5/mo for each
extra IP.
It makes life SO much easier to track down customers when law
enforcement comes with a subpeona, because the customer's IP never changes.
We
Agreed. There is no good reason not to give one public IP to each client.
There are many reasons why it is a bad idea to NAT clients behind private
IPs.
Best,
Brad
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, May
So then, static or DHCP'd
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I don't think there is anything wrong with DHCPing public IPs, but if we
used DHCP we would reserve an IP for each client to insure the client always
gets the same IP address.
We own and manage a CPE router for every client, so this is really a
non-issue for our network design. For those that
PPPoE
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From: Patrick Nix Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema
So
This is an interesting article if you have a gmail account...
http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/2-hidden-ways-to-get-more-from-your.ht
ml
Of course you all probably already knew about this trick as I am always the
last to know... :)
Cliff LeBoeuf
985-879-3219
www.cssla.com
www.triparish.net
Please send! That would be great :)
Thanks Patrick! Hope all is well!
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Patrick Nix Jr. wrote:
So then, static or DHCP'd
We use DHCP for everyone, then hard code it in the dhcp config file
for those who want to get the same one each time (i.e. static IP).
As long as you can track who has what and when, it doesn't really
matter. You'll need to know when the feds
Cool! Does that mean my Model 28 teletype has a future after all??
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2424647132102049544
Tom Sharples
WA6HAS
QCWA
RTTY or AMTOR
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Steve,
This data is not being reported by census tracts I believe it is
supposed
to be done to the census block or block group which is a much smaller area.
I'll dig around for the free on line sources to see if there is a way to do
this by anyone without having GIS software. If I dig
Well based on your comments I can certainly understand your point of view
and frustrations. I was just trying to help out and assist WISP's so they
can easily comply with the new requirements.
Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com
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I can find absolutely no reason to think that ANY of us are going to
benefit
from this. The only people who could possibly benefit, would be the
Qwest's and the Clearwires of the world, who have publicly financed
expansion research done for them.
If the collated data are made publicly
PPPoE
Y'know, I've never understood why many ISPs are so fond of PPPOE. The only
benefits anyone has ever articulated to me are an alleged improvement in
ease of tracking customer-IP associations, and your DHCP server and tower
logs should take care of that for you just as easily. In the
And to take it one step further, I've never understood using DHCP for
customers. It makes it 10x easier for a rogue client to get on your
network if you run DHCP instead of just static. You don't have to
maintain any logs, or worry about your DHCP server having problems,
etc. It seems one step
If you have ever renumbered your entire network due to changing upstream
providers or running out of IP, you will wish you had used DHCP everywhere.
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From: Travis Johnson
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; WISPA General List
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:37 PM
I think it's fair to say that any ISP of size has in fact done this once if
not twice. It's not the end of the world unless there was little planning
done beforehand. I've experienced both. grin
We do not use DHCP anywhere, but within the client LAN environment.
However, I don't see where
MAC/modem cloning is a real problem for cable Internet companies. Modern
DOCSIS 1.1 and above cable modems have MD5 hashing the firmware with the
MAC but somehow the clones get stolen MAC addresses and there are
successful thieves. Perhaps it's downgrading the firmware to DOCSIS 1.0
where it is
Travis Johnson wrote:
And to take it one step further, I've never understood using DHCP for
customers. It makes it 10x easier for a rogue client to get on your
network if you run DHCP instead of just static. You don't have to
maintain any logs, or worry about your DHCP server having
We've renumbered our entire network once, when we got our own IP space.
It took us about 30 days from start to finish... that was 6 years ago.
Have never had an issue since then... but we have our own /18 block
now... ;)
Travis
Microserv
Chuck McCown - 2 wrote:
If you have ever renumbered
There's a couple of nicely elegant options here... One is that you NAT only
at your core point(s), and at that point you do a 1:1 IP translation. You
can then choose who has direct IP connection and who doesn't at your core
points, without any additional routing. For those who don't, you
I have two questions regarding some 4.9 GHz radios I'm provisinging, both
relating to how I provision channels for access and backhaul traffic.
I have 5 sites with 2 cameras a piece. Each camera has a 3 Mbps streaming
requirement. I'm told to use the 4.9 GHz safety band, as the city has (or
will
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