Re: [WISPA] Done loving this thread

2008-10-10 Thread reader
Business plans based upon credit or federal subsidy seem to be a risky proposition right now. We want nothing to do with USF funds, period. Our business model and expense/debt/overhead is prepared to weather just about anything except federal nastiness.

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL Rackmount

2008-10-10 Thread Cameron Kilton
There must be some sort of tolerance. Units work between 48 and 55v? Something to that affect. -Cameron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 4:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL Rackmount

2008-10-10 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Yes, the normal float voltage for flooded cell batts is 2.25 VPC. For a 48 Volt battery that is 24 cells x 2.25 = 54 volts. Some folks charge at 55 volts. Then during discharge, some consider 1.8 VPC to be the lower limit. 24 x 1. = 43.2 volts. I personally like 44 volts as the lower limit.

Re: [WISPA] OT: For the phone guys.

2008-10-10 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Check with your state PUC. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message

[WISPA] Alianza Press Release

2008-10-10 Thread Rick Harnish
http://www.wispa.org/?p=286 Rick Harnish General Manager - Midwest Region Great American Broadband 260-827-2482 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] ISPs in US

2008-10-10 Thread David E. Smith
Mario Pommier wrote: It's an interesting objective, actually. Here's the scenario. I'm looking for the number of ISPs in the US (small to medium ISPs, not Verizon and Time Warner and the like) who have 50 or more business customers. Maybe this kind of definition helps. Wisps, cable, dsl

Re: [WISPA] ISPs in US

2008-10-10 Thread Mario Pommier
It's an interesting objective, actually. Here's the scenario. I'm looking for the number of ISPs in the US (small to medium ISPs, not Verizon and Time Warner and the like) who have 50 or more business customers. Maybe this kind of definition helps. Wisps, cable, dsl are all good. Any ISP who

Re: [WISPA] Alianza Press Release

2008-10-10 Thread John McDowell
Uh oh, looks like Alianza is on the up and up too... What is DBC up to now? 20,000 subs or so? On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.wispa.org/?p=286 Rick Harnish General Manager - Midwest Region Great American Broadband 260-827-2482

Re: [WISPA] MT DOMs

2008-10-10 Thread Brad Belton
Hey Travis, Did you get one of these in and try it yet? Thanks, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 8:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT DOMs Yes. Thanks. I found

Re: [WISPA] gotta love USF!!!!

2008-10-10 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Yikes! No fun. - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gotta love USF I'll put it this way, at one telco I know, a disgruntled accountant called the State

Re: [WISPA] gotta love USF!!!!

2008-10-10 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Splitting hairs Chuck. If it's government mandated collections it's a tax. If it's government mandated expenditure it's a subsidy. grin I'm not saying it doesn't have it's place. Heck I'd love to get what Century Tel gets out here! If I could find a way to do so I'd do what I could to get

Re: [WISPA] gotta love USF!!!!

2008-10-10 Thread Chuck McCown
Nope, but I know plenty of consultants. - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gotta love USF Splitting hairs Chuck. If it's government mandated

Re: [WISPA] Done loving this thread

2008-10-10 Thread Tom DeReggi
Good point. (Except, as pointed out by others, USF isn't based on credit or federal subsidy, its a program funded by Americans, mandated by the feds). Yes, business models reliant on credit clearly are models in risk in the nearby future. However, I'd argue because of that, that businesses

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL Rackmount

2008-10-10 Thread Tom DeReggi
Chuck, Interesting info, regarding VPC. As you proved, there is a logic to minimum range should be designed for. But the question is also, what was designed as the Maximum? Many products have fuses that peak at a specific level, to protect from over voltage damage. For example, WRAP boards

Re: [WISPA] gotta love USF!!!!

2008-10-10 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Cool. Any of them able to work with a small WISP that has a HUGE coverage zone? Much of which is too expensive to get to at this time Feel free to have a couple call me if they think there is a way to make this fly. I might not like the programs but I'm no fool either :-) Marlon (509)

Re: [WISPA] Done loving this thread

2008-10-10 Thread George Rogato
It seems like easy math to me, pay a small usf fee for each of your subscribers, do a whole lot of accounting and paper work filing (probably mind boggling), and collect a big chunk of change, paid for by those New York City folks. Isn't that the way it works?

[WISPA] USF Changes

2008-10-10 Thread Matt
So it got broke up and competition was supposed to flourish etc etc. They are still experimenting. Part of the problem is that the S in USF is still defined as POTS on copper. Our company is personally sponsoring a bill in our legislature that expands that to broadband. Look for an FCC

Re: [WISPA] USF Changes

2008-10-10 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
A judge ordered the FCC to issue a decision on the intercarrier compensation reform. Not sure the docket number, but they have to issue something in November. There is a date certain. They can decide to not change anything. Or they can decide to radically reform the whole works. If they do