Re: [WISPA] NOGO's

2008-10-14 Thread Rick Harnish
Wow, no truck roll installs. That is a dream I would like to make into a reality :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] NOGO's

2008-10-14 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Note the operative words visits before in the question... The install truck roll is the only truck roll. - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 5:40 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] NOGO's Wow, no

[WISPA] Interference at the neighbors

2008-10-14 Thread Patrick Nix Jr.
Just curious, how are you dealing with interference that comes from the neighbor of an existing or potential customer, i.e. you survey a potential's house and see noise level -58 on 900su (rssi being -76) anyway the noise seems to be coming from a neighbor (non-customer) how do you approach the

Re: [WISPA] Interference at the neighbors

2008-10-14 Thread Martha Huizenga
We don't have a ton of interference that we can tell is coming from neighbors vs something else. However, if we don't get a good signal at a potential customer then we don't install there. I don't think there is much you can do about interference except to change your own network. However, I

[WISPA] old utility poles

2008-10-14 Thread Patrick Nix Jr.
Anyone using old utility poles for aerial real estate? Our local electric company has agreed to let us have the old extracted poles for $0.20/ft. any suggestions for installing poles and mounting equipment onto them? Lengths are 30-40ft Thanks __

Re: [WISPA] Interference at the neighbors

2008-10-14 Thread chris cooper
If the noise is from a consumer electronic device, you could offer to buy them a non-interfering replacement. This has always worked for us. Most people are decent and want to help out a neighbor. Chris Cooper Intelliwave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] old utility poles

2008-10-14 Thread Chuck McCown
We use them at times. That is a pretty good price if they are in good enough shape to climb. - Original Message - From: Patrick Nix Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:09 AM Subject: [WISPA] old utility poles Anyone using

Re: [WISPA] old utility poles

2008-10-14 Thread Patrick Nix Jr.
Don't know about climbing, we have a bucket truck though, they seem to be in decent shape __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] old utility poles

2008-10-14 Thread 3-dB Networks
They are much easier to work on with a bucket truck... I've worked on a few, they work pretty good as long as you don't need to mount any gear that will have a lot of wind load Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] 5.5Ghz highpass/lowpass filters?

2008-10-14 Thread Randy Cosby
I once found the company that made the Tranzeo filters for their full-duplex units. They had a pretty good selection. Does anyone have one laying around you can check the labels on? Randy Jon Langeler wrote: Anyone have any recommendations on highpass/lowpass RF filters in the 5500Mhz

Re: [WISPA] NOGO's / 900hmz

2008-10-14 Thread Randy Cosby
Speaking of NOGO's and 900mhz... This is new territory for us. What are you using, how is it working, and where are you using it? We played with 900mhz years ago with the first generation of Tranzeo equipment and were quite dissapointed. Not sure if the problems (random disconnects, signals

Re: [WISPA] NOGO's / 900hmz

2008-10-14 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, In our experience with Trango 900mhz, it does work well in SOME areas. The biggest thing is making sure you use horizontal polarity as vertical is pretty noisy (even here in Idaho, we have seen -50 noise across the entire 900 band in vertical polarity). The other thing to remember is 900

Re: [WISPA] 5.5Ghz highpass/lowpass filters?

2008-10-14 Thread Chuck McCown
How tight do you want it? I make a very sharp waveguide BPF for 5.8. I'll attach the response curve. - Original Message - From: Jon Langeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:48 AM Subject: [WISPA] 5.5Ghz highpass/lowpass

Re: [WISPA] 5.5Ghz highpass/lowpass filters?

2008-10-14 Thread Jerry Richardson
What do you charge for BPF's? __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re:

[WISPA] 5.5Ghz highpass/lowpass filters?

2008-10-14 Thread Jon Langeler
Anyone have any recommendations on highpass/lowpass RF filters in the 5500Mhz range (basically to allow for either 5.3GHz or 5.8GHz)? Or any other 5GHz filter recommendations for that matter besides the Teletronics and Hyperlinks ones I've already seen? Thanks Jon Langeler Michwave Tech.

Re: [WISPA] 5.5Ghz highpass/lowpass filters?

2008-10-14 Thread Randy Cosby
http://www.anatechelectronics.com/index.php This is the one I believe. Randy Randy Cosby wrote: I once found the company that made the Tranzeo filters for their full-duplex units. They had a pretty good selection. Does anyone have one laying around you can check the labels on? Randy

Re: [WISPA] Interference at the neighbors

2008-10-14 Thread Blake Bowers
Sometimes it should fall on the customer to fix the interference. My sons house, the wireless is lost whenever he turns on the microwave. Hi Tech solution? Don't use the microwave while on the net. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign

Re: [WISPA] NOGO's

2008-10-14 Thread Mike Hammett
Anyone have issues with Yagi's and ice buildup vs. a grid dish? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:40 AM To: WISPA General

[WISPA] Making coverage maps with free software

2008-10-14 Thread Randy Cosby
First, you need to learn how to make a coverage map in Radio Mobile. I won't try to show how to build coverage maps, these guys do a really good job: http://www.pizon.org/radio-mobile-tutorial/rf-coverage-plot.html http://pe1mew.nl/radiomobile/ After you've figured out how to do the map and

Re: [WISPA] NOGO's

2008-10-14 Thread D. Ryan Spott
The first gen Tranzeos were not so good At all. The 902 serieis.. Much better. 900 can be voodoo though. I consider it and a 18 db yagi the last chance for desperate customers. ryan -Original Message- From: Randy Cosby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:24 AM To:

Re: [WISPA] Interference at the neighbors

2008-10-14 Thread Jack Unger
and in the future (God willing) TV White Space... Chuck McCown wrote: 2.4, 5.2, 5.4 and 5.8GHz (sorry, feeling like a smarta** today) - Original Message - From: Patrick Nix Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:59 AM

[WISPA] VoIP Take Rate

2008-10-14 Thread Mark Nash
For those of you providing voip services over wireless, what would you say your take rate of the service is? That is, your ratio of wireless customers to voip customers? Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today!

Re: [WISPA] NOGO's

2008-10-14 Thread Tom DeReggi
We've had this topic before, from the perspective that, one's chance to accurately predict and/or have a successful install heavily relies on their market topology, not just processes. Example... a) AP on 2000-ft mountain looking down on a flat town versus b) urban environment with tower height

Re: [WISPA] Interference at the neighbors

2008-10-14 Thread Chuck McCown
2.4, 5.2, 5.4 and 5.8GHz (sorry, feeling like a smarta** today) - Original Message - From: Patrick Nix Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:59 AM Subject: [WISPA] Interference at the neighbors Just curious, how are you

Re: [WISPA] VoIP Take Rate

2008-10-14 Thread John McDowell
About 25% for us. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2008, at 3:14 PM, Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those of you providing voip services over wireless, what would you say your take rate of the service is? That is, your ratio of wireless customers to voip customers? Mark

Re: [WISPA] [Tranzeo] New Update-Tranzeo/Mtik disconnectissueOct7th, 2008

2008-10-14 Thread Tom DeReggi
Chuck, Yes, and we are jealous :-) We did a great job on getting real estate. We are one top of 50% of the top 25 tallest structures in our area. But in our market/topology, that is no where near good enough to serve everyone. But then again, its not really necessary to serve everybody. Tom

[WISPA] Tranzeo/Mtik disconnect issue

2008-10-14 Thread Steve Barnes
2nd Send How is the MT/Tranzeo Beta Firmware working? I have issues when the disconnect happens the AP shows horrible signals from the Tranzeo's (-105 to -113) but if you start a ping to that radio it drops back to -69. Is this resolved as well? If I reboot the AP all the signals are fine. I

Re: [WISPA] 5.5Ghz highpass/lowpass filters?

2008-10-14 Thread Tom DeReggi
Yes. Many of the default 5.x filters do not have enough db filtering. We got some 5.3Ghz cavity filters designed/made for us by DCI that worked really great, about 35-30 db rejection. They were about $300ish. I bet they could make you a model that extended the full 5.x band. Tom DeReggi

Re: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software

2008-10-14 Thread Tracy Tippett
The incredible variety of IP cameras available on the market makes it tough to compare apples to apples. There are low cost low res solutions, high cost low res, low frame rate, high frame rate, big dollars and little dollars indoor and outdoor, optimized for wireless, converted cctv, you

Re: [WISPA] Interference at the neighbors

2008-10-14 Thread Matt Jenkins
Build a BIG GIANT RF shield between the SM and neighbor. I have had this exact issue with a neighbor who was a total jerk. We used a big 4'x8' wooden frame covered a few times over with chicken wire. It helped enough. Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: Just curious, how are you dealing with interference

Re: [WISPA] 5.5Ghz highpass/lowpass filters?

2008-10-14 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Depending on options, they average $300. - Original Message - From: Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.5Ghz highpass/lowpass filters? What do you charge for BPF's?

Re: [WISPA] OT. Network Question

2008-10-14 Thread Matt Jenkins
If both are managed switches then an ip conflict could cause a bit of congestion, but it should mostly only hurt your ability to access the switches. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was just brought to my attention that I omitted an important piece of my question last night. Let's try it

Re: [WISPA] NOGO's

2008-10-14 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Same for us. marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; WISPA General List Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] NOGO's We only make 1 visit, and that's with the installer ready to install. When the customer calls, we

Re: [WISPA] old utility poles

2008-10-14 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Climb? I bought a bucket truck so that I'd never have to do that again. (ex linesman here) marlon - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] old utility poles We

Re: [WISPA] old utility poles

2008-10-14 Thread 3-dB Networks
Depending on what the equipment is hose clamps work well too (just get some monster ones to go around the pole) Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:09 PM To:

Re: [WISPA] old utility poles

2008-10-14 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I'd not do that with anything that you don't want to shift. The pole will shrink and swell. Eventually the clamps will move. marlon - Original Message - From: 3-dB Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:11 PM

Re: [WISPA] old utility poles

2008-10-14 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
We have a few pole mounted systems. Have a good electrical contractor install them and they'll know how to set the poles. As for mounting, I usually use sat dish mounts. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Patrick Nix Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List