Re: [WISPA] sputnik

2009-01-08 Thread Jerry Richardson
We used them for a while. If all you want is AAA, they are OK. We use Silver Lining http://www.silverliningnetworks.com. They have a AAA / Advertizing solution that is unlike anything else out there. Being network guys and not developers the partnership is perfect - we provide the network, they

Re: [WISPA] Typical Sector count

2009-01-08 Thread Jerry Richardson
Funny you should ask. 2 years ago I had to abandon 2.4 due to the noise floor creeping up. Since then the 5.7 noise floor has been climbing and the 2.4 spectrum went back down and is usable again. Go figure __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications

Re: [WISPA] FM radio station site strangeness

2009-01-08 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
There are pseudo square waves on ethernet. Those have an infinite number of harmonics. - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FM radio station site strangeness I installed a cat5

Re: [WISPA] City School Internet Bid...need help andadvicefromthosewho've done this.

2009-01-08 Thread Blake Bowers
I figured pole attachment fees would make the fiber more costly. I have purchased a couple of Cable TV systems that the pole attachment fees ran as much as $11 to 15 bucks a pole per year. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread os10rules
Do you block smtp on non-standard ports? Is SSL filtering necessary (gmail smtp is over ssl for example)? Greg On Jan 8, 2009, at 12:41 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Does anyone use the Barracuda's for outbound spam filtering and is it as good as the inbound version? I need to keep my mail

Re: [WISPA] FM radio station site strangeness

2009-01-08 Thread os10rules
I'm sure if you looked at it on a spectrum analyzer you'd see the signal occupies a wide band of frequencies, hence it's probably susceptible to interference on a wide range of frequencies. Greg On Jan 8, 2009, at 12:54 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: OK, can we put this in plain English?

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I block all outgoing port 25 except to my email server and a few other email servers that my customers use. That stopped it for about 1-2 years now someone is authorizing on my email server and then using it to relay because I've been getting 400-800 mail delivery failures from their dictionary

Re: [WISPA] City School Internet Bid...needhelpandadvicefromthosewho've done this.

2009-01-08 Thread Blake Bowers
Lol...You of all people know better. It is kind of interesting however, small rural cable systems can be had for next to nothing - physical plant, whatever customers are left, and the TOWER. I get them for the tower, scrap the rest. Make sure that the pole attachment agreement does NOT call for

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread os10rules
That should be easy. I've never used Barracuda but I have used the Sonicwall and also open hardware based UTMs such as Astaro, Endian, Untangle and ClarkConnect. Any decent solution should work. Do you already own the Barracuda? If not you might want to consider using an old PC with

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Don't have the outbound barracuda yet, I do have an inbound. How do you point your mail to go to the outbound? Do you have your firewall redirect all port 25 to the outbound or do you tell you email server to relay to the outbound? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820

Re: [WISPA] Typical Sector count

2009-01-08 Thread RickG
Rural. Little noise in the boondocks :) On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Who uses 2.4 GHz anymore? When I started almost 4 years ago, I chose 5 GHz because of the potential for 2.4 GHz noise and the lack of spectrum. - Mike Hammett

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread Mike Hammett
It depends on the particular blacklist if it's actually true or not. My server is blacklisted by my accountant's email service, yet doesn't say why and no other blacklist considers me a threat. Attempts to remove me have been unsuccessful. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread Portative Contact
Kurt, I use a Mikrotik router to check outbound mail - here are the rules I used. add action=log chain=forward comment=BLOCK SPAMMERS OR INFECTED USERS disabled=no dst-port=25 log-prefix=DROPSPAM \ protocol=tcp src-address-list=spammer add action=add-src-to-address-list address-list=spammer

Re: [WISPA] Typical Sector count

2009-01-08 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
We've been doing 3x120 in 2.4ghz and 5ghz. Using StarOS on the X4000 boards, it is right around $1000 for a three sector setup, and that includes the AP and antennas. Mounting hardware and labor varies according to the type of installation. If it is a rooftop or other structure that

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread os10rules
Kurt, Will getting the Barracuda outbound require more hardware or is it just a service you can turn on with the current hardware for a fee? I'm not familiar with the Barracuda but I would assume there's nothing you have to set up as long as nobody is doing ssl. These boxes

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread Matt
Does anyone use the Barracuda's for outbound spam filtering and is it as good as the inbound version? I need to keep my mail server from getting blacklisted and am looking for a way to do it. Apparently someone is using my server to relay spam, (I am using pop before smtp so they must be

[WISPA] CES 2009 Trend: Web-enabled Televisions

2009-01-08 Thread Drew Lentz
http://dvice.com/archives/2009/01/red-hot_trends.php After the full day of press conferences preceding the opening of the Consumer Electronics Show (CES), there's one big trend that keeps coming up from every electronics company hawking their wares to the press corps. They all are cranking out

Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)

2009-01-08 Thread Mark McElvy
I have the pipe type on one of my water towers, where do you get and what do you call the device to connect to it? Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:31 PM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-08 Thread Steve Barnes
That's what I like about this list, most every shoots straight to the point. Safety over the check book. So with that said what are some good sources, (Websites) for climbing gear. I know Tessco, trying to find some competing prices. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-08 Thread Jerry Richardson
http://www.discountsafetygear.com/ __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:44 AM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-08 Thread 3-dB Networks
While I have yet to buy from them... Midwest Unlimited is what the Comtrain guys recommended over anyone. My next order will probably be from them. http://www.midwestunlimited.com Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-08 Thread 3-dB Networks
Something about that name doesn't sound right :-) Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 11:49 AM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
No my email is hosted with jumpline and I don't see any where to set an MTA Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday,

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Its another hardware box. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 11:46 AM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread David E. Smith
os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Will getting the Barracuda outbound require more hardware or is it just a service you can turn on with the current hardware for a fee? It's the same hardware, but you can't use one Barracuda to do both jobs. You buy one, and you can switch the software from

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-08 Thread Jerry Richardson
Yeah, I though it a bit contradictory.looks like they have a pretty good range of stuff. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Are they using your webmail to send out the spam. Is there any way you can tell what user's email address is compromised because all the mail delivery errors I'm getting don't show one. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-08 Thread Blair Davis
I had the exact same thought! 3-dB Networks wrote: Something about that name doesn't sound right :-) Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent:

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-08 Thread John McDowell
Ever since Midwest Unlimited was recommended, we have been buying gear from them. On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 12:52 PM, 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net wrote: While I have yet to buy from them... Midwest Unlimited is what the Comtrain guys recommended over anyone. My next order will probably be from

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread David E. Smith
Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Are they using your webmail to send out the spam. Is there any way you can tell what user's email address is compromised because all the mail delivery errors I'm getting don't show one. Yeah, my latest few problem children have been using our Web site, and

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread os10rules
I agree, those dedicated boxes are expensive and then there's the annual fee as well correct? I think I'd go with Endian on a PC. Is your spam assassin running native or as a virtual machine? Greg On Jan 8, 2009, at 2:32 PM, David E. Smith wrote: os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Will

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread David E. Smith
os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I agree, those dedicated boxes are expensive and then there's the annual fee as well correct? Yeah, you'd have to keep up the Barracuda subscription on your outgoing filter as well, if you want to block current viruses and such from leaving your network. I think

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread os10rules
It sounds like what you really have to do is tighten up your webmail. It's better to fix that than to put a band-aid on it. Though a good smtp spam filter is never a bad idea. Greg On Jan 8, 2009, at 4:37 PM, David E. Smith wrote: os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I agree, those dedicated boxes

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread David E. Smith
os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: It sounds like what you really have to do is tighten up your webmail. It's better to fix that than to put a band-aid on it. Though a good smtp spam filter is never a bad idea. The problem is that the Web mail isn't broken, as such. The attackers are using

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-08 Thread lakeland
Definately Midwest Unlimited. Buy from a company in the tower business. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:43:37 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident That's

[WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations

2009-01-08 Thread Pat O'Connor
Andrews Antenna P3F-52-NXA 5.8GHz backhaul radio died today because of a power surge. Old Proxim gear, 2 x T1. I wanted some feedback from vendors/users of what they are using. I need to keep it under $5K if possible. Link distance: 8.3 miles Antennas: Andrews P3F-52-NXA

Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations

2009-01-08 Thread Blair Davis
A pair of Mikrotiks, radio cards and all, under $1K and you should be able to do 20Mbit. Pat O'Connor wrote: Andrews Antenna P3F-52-NXA 5.8GHz backhaul radio died today because of a power surge. Old Proxim gear, 2 x T1. I wanted some feedback from vendors/users of what they are

Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations

2009-01-08 Thread Josh Luthman
I have this installed and like it... Two RBs (currently 532 but today you'll want 433ah) Two xr5 or compex wlm54ag Dual polarity 5ghz dish Butch's blog and/or help in usinf OSPF to concatinate the two links. I would guess 400 for electronics, 400 for two dishes and 200 for materials. On 1/8/09,

Re: [WISPA] Trango 900

2009-01-08 Thread Travis Johnson
They do 3Mbps total bandwidth... so however many subs you can get on there at whatever speed they are OK with... ;) We have some with 60+ subs. Travis Microserv Al Stewart wrote: I know some of you are using Trango 900s. So could I trouble you for some observations based on your depth of

Re: [WISPA] Trango 900

2009-01-08 Thread John Scrivner
We find that about 45 CPE per AP is max without some speed / latency issues creeping up. We sell mostly 768k connections. Scriv On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: They do 3Mbps total bandwidth... so however many subs you can get on there at whatever speed they

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread John Thomas
Are you guys using the outbound feature on your inbound Barracudas? It doesn't do as full a job as a outbound box, but it may help your problem. John Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Does anyone use the Barracuda's for outbound spam filtering and is it as good as the inbound version? I need to keep my

Re: [WISPA] Trango 900

2009-01-08 Thread Gerard Dupont III
I inherited a Trango 900 network that has some AP's with over 100 subs on them. You just need to be careful how much bandwidth you sell your customers since there is only 3mbit to go around. I am very impressed with how well they run with that many subs though. Gerard Al Stewart wrote: I

Re: [WISPA] Trango 900

2009-01-08 Thread Tom DeReggi
We have about 50 residential users per AP. We sell 1mb-2mb (download) services, with 384k and 512k uploads. You can do more, if you are in an area that does not need fast circuits.(for example selling 256k to the home). Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

Re: [WISPA] metal building install

2009-01-08 Thread Scottie Arnett
It being stainless steel wall, makes me think of all kinds of nice freq. reflections? I know I have trouble with all freq. shooting across or tops of steel roofing. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net Reply-To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations

2009-01-08 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Easy. Airaya. Easy to set up, rock solid reliable. You can get them from ec/hutton. marlon - Original Message - From: Pat O'Connor p...@inlandnet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 5:39 PM Subject: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio

Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations

2009-01-08 Thread John McDowell
Redline AN80i On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Pat O'Connor p...@inlandnet.com wrote: Andrews Antenna P3F-52-NXA 5.8GHz backhaul radio died today because of a power surge. Old Proxim gear, 2 x T1. I wanted some feedback from vendors/users of what they are using. I need to keep it under

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread J. Vogel
My webmail software is Squirrelmail, which does put the authenticated user in the header, but that didn't come back in the bounces (that I saw anyway) but I was able to find the compromised account by searching the Sent folders for some of the bounced recipient addresses. Picking an address that

Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations

2009-01-08 Thread John McDowell
We're pretty exclusive to the AN80 on backhauls...just deployed a new one this week. And yes, Redline support is awesome On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: I love the an50s. Redline support is unbelieveable. The 80s have more capability and are

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread Mike Hammett
What about forcing those accounts to change paswords? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 3:31 PM To: WISPA General List