[WISPA] Thinking out of the box ... Gigabit PTMP?

2009-02-08 Thread Gino Villarini
Today i have been pondering the idea to provide a wireless alternative to FTTH... At least a short range (up to 1 mile) 100 - 500 mbps wireless PTMP system to the home to provide triple play services. With todays current products, I ll say it cant be done... but is there an alterenative?

Re: [WISPA] Thinking out of the box ... Gigabit PTMP?

2009-02-08 Thread can...@believewireless.net
I've mentioned this before but I think the only spectrum you can use to do this would be 60GHz. Obvously, very short range but high speed. I'm pretty sure 24GHz can only be used for PTP links. But, could be used as your backhaul to your 60GHz repeater site. I don't know if this would work with

Re: [WISPA] Thinking out of the box ... Gigabit PTMP?

2009-02-08 Thread Gino Villarini
I was wondering about 24 ptmp too But there still LMDS 28-31 ghz Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] StarOS/Valemount

2009-02-08 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Boy I tell ya what. StarOS was looking like a hell-uv-a great product back in the days of the Mikrotik/Tranzeo reconnect issues Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] StarOS/Valemount

2009-02-08 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
Is is one heck of a product, it just has a learning curve, and is never on the 'bleeding edege', and since everybody knows Lonnie's' service limitations, most users help new users a lot. And I might add, you are not locked into only Star OS for SU's. Short range we have used nanos and now

Re: [WISPA] Thinking out of the box ... Gigabit PTMP?

2009-02-08 Thread RickG
I remember Ken (last name?) always brought this up a few years back. Didnt he go work for a company to do just that? -RickG On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Today i have been pondering the idea to provide a wireless alternative to FTTH... At least a

Re: [WISPA] StarOS/Valemount

2009-02-08 Thread RickG
Ya, just about everythign works with my StarOS WRAPs (which I'll be replacing soon). With that said, I've been debating between Mikrotik and WAR boards. I've got one Mikrotik up. I like it OK. I guess I'll try a WAR and see? -RickG On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 1:23 PM, CHUCK PROFITO

Re: [WISPA] StarOS/Valemount

2009-02-08 Thread Jerry Richardson
Thanks for the resplies guys. I am considering using it for small scale (up to 10) WiFi mesh networks to cover downtown areas, shoppping malls, hospitailty, and other areas. Obviously there is a price/support ratio as with any product. If the product is as solid as you say, it seems that once

Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook

2009-02-08 Thread RickG
I'm actually 48 but started computer classes in high school, then joined IBM right away. Was fortunate enough to see work on the old generation big iron before it was replaced by newer technology. Of course, new technology has been replaced several times over since I left IBM in '91. Now the

Re: [WISPA] StarOS/Valemount

2009-02-08 Thread Mark Nash
I agree... Just put one up and try it. Don't be afraid of the learning curve. The performance and flexibility is outstanding. Also, there's alot to be said about NOT having a web interface. I can't tell you how many times I've done this: 1. Realized I screwed up the gateway address or IP

Re: [WISPA] StarOS/Valemount

2009-02-08 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, Mikrotik has this same ability, but using their Winbox GUI. I can right-click on any connected Mikrotik device in the list and connect directly (even if it doesn't have an IP address on it at all). And let's not forget the all powerful Torch utility that is built in to every Mikrotik

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Thinking out of the box ... Gigabit PTMP?

2009-02-08 Thread Brian Webster
Fibertower owns a lot of the LMDS spectrum that they acquired when they bought First Avenue Networks. First Avenue acquired the spectrum which was the old WinStar and Teligent stuff. From what I understand there are still a few people who have warehouses of that old equipment. Fibertower was

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Thinking out of the box ... Gigabit PTMP?

2009-02-08 Thread Gino Villarini
already dug up some info: http://www.jrc.co.jp/eng/product/26g_fwa/index.html 16qam 80 mbps in a 30 mhz Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 From: motorola-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Thinking out of the box ... Gigabit PTMP?

2009-02-08 Thread Brian Webster
Looks like there is 25 MHz of unlicensed spectrum at 24 GHz for PTP use. I wonder if these radios could get FCC certified using PTP rules like Navini and SkyPilot did? That would make for an interesting change in the landscape for urban markets. Granted you would only have one channel but at 24

Re: [WISPA] StarOS/Valemount

2009-02-08 Thread eje
With MikroTik you can mac telnet so if you have connection to the ap you can mac telnet to another unit from within winbox no matter if you have ip connection. Or you can telnet or ssh as well for that matter. On ezy.net and Ubiquiti units you can activate ssh service so you can ssh to them

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Thinking out of the box ... Gigabit PTMP?

2009-02-08 Thread Brian Webster
Sorry missed the zero, 250 MHz. So you would have a lot of channels. Get those JRC radios certified under the current PTP rules (these are TDMA radios, should be an easy argument) and we have a lot of spectrum and equipment ready ALMOST TODAY to deploy high capacity PTMP systems no waiting for

Re: [WISPA] StarOS/Valemount

2009-02-08 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Winbox is okay, but it doesn't do much that the StarOS ssh interface doesn't do, and that includes the Torch functionality. The StarOS Beacon functionality has the ability to track all TCP connections, simliar to Torch, so that functionality is there as well. I would probably lean toward

Re: [WISPA] Thinking out of the box ... Gigabit PTMP?

2009-02-08 Thread Kevin Suitor
How about 4x4 MIMO 265QAM radios with S-OFDMA and 40 MHz TDD channels in 5 GHz bands? High bandwidth reasonable reach (say 4 miles at full rate LOS) and NLOS/OLOS capability (in fact you need OLOS/NLOS to get the decoupling of signals for MIMO spatial muxing to provide the non-coherent channels).

Re: [WISPA] Thinking out of the box ... Gigabit PTMP?

2009-02-08 Thread Gino Villarini
Kevin, I would be interested in more information on this ... Specially how much bps/hz such a system might yield Altough 5.x ghz is very congested, it could work in micro pop scenario Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145

Re: [WISPA] StarOS/Valemount

2009-02-08 Thread George Miller
Some pretty cool companies have started out in a garage, but our products (including our FCC certified systems) are programmed, assembled, warehoused, and shipped from here in Hastings, Minnesota at our very nice facility in the industrial park. Software development happens in a few other

Re: [WISPA] StarOS/Valemount

2009-02-08 Thread George Miller
Jerry - I'll try and address your questions about us. We are growing quickly with no signs of that slowing down. As I mentioned in my other post, I think you'll like what you see from us in the coming months. We're very actively developing new products. Yes we do mesh networks, and we do them

Re: [WISPA] StarOS/Valemount

2009-02-08 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I researched them heavily but was completely unable to get a phone- call back from ANY of the vendors listed as resellers! You wanna know why the 'conomy sucks? Cause sales-droids are not returning phone calls! ryan On Feb 8, 2009, at 9:51 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Boy I tell ya what.

Re: [WISPA] StarOS/Valemount

2009-02-08 Thread George Miller
Ryan - Give us a call at 651-319-9106 if you would like any information, or drop me an email directly. Thanks, George President, Freespace Systems -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Sunday, February